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Post Post #4 (isolation #0) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 11:56 am

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Abilities: Lucky guesses, Never claiming VT on the stand regardless of alignment, Role-playing, and urge to fuck around with people, enemy or ally.

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Luck: 4.5/5
Charisma: 4/5
Wisdom: 2/5
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Post Post #10 (isolation #1) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:24 pm

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In post 6, tictac wrote:
In post 4, Elsa Jay wrote:Urge to Survive: 5/5
uhh. k.

...
That's
what you found weird from my introduction?

Man, minus 2 points for you already,
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Post Post #11 (isolation #2) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 4:35 pm

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VOTE: aslightrain

A slight Rain? A sligh Train? As Light Rains?

WHAT EVEN IS YOUR NAME.
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Post Post #16 (isolation #3) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 6:09 pm

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Clearly in his country, fuck is offensive, but fuckly, I don't understand why the fuck is fuck such a fucking fucked up word. It makes zero fucking sense, ya fuck with me?
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Post Post #23 (isolation #4) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 6:21 am

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Clearly what you need is a Widowmaker main. I can also do Mei.
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Post Post #30 (isolation #5) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 9:42 am

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So quick question: do we all want to basically start the real game now or later? I can get us ice cream for either occasion.

We got 13 days and only one person who has refrained from the global page one banter. My vote happens to still be on them too.

Petit: a VC is usually the best time to get serious.

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Post Post #43 (isolation #6) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 1:13 pm

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Rules: (Adapted From Empking)
1. All normal rules apply.
2. Deadline is 14 days.
3. Prods are every 48 hours without a post, replacement 24 hour after that.
4. Reaching the deadline without a lynch (requires strict majority) will lead to No Lynch.
5. Don't quote private threads, and don't talk about this outside the thread unless permitted.
6. Declare V/LA in thread, and catch my attention with BOLD posts
7. I'm using This Color. Please don't use it.
None of the above confirms a scum daychat but you bring it up day 2? On page 2?

Any real reason for that Tac?
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Post Post #46 (isolation #7) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 1:20 pm

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If the Mod doesnt have Daychat in the description, it either means an obvious no, or it's ambiguous for the players to solve.

He'd put it in if had wanted too.
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Post Post #48 (isolation #8) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 1:24 pm

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You never said anything about pre-game, just "scumchat".

Just wanted an explanation is all.
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Post Post #52 (isolation #9) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 1:30 pm

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Somebody
here didn't read the rules and assumed it said scumchat was a day thing...

Really, mentioning pre-game scumchat is useless. In a 10p that needed 7 people to start, the scum probably didnt even talk.

-- Pedit --

We all know in Mafia you have to watch what you say. You even typed it, so you CLEARLY had something in mind when you said scumchat.

Minus 2 more points.
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Post Post #55 (isolation #10) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 1:55 pm

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Well I'll drop it for now, but I got my eyes on you...


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Post Post #57 (isolation #11) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 2:35 pm

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Notes for later: Tic Tac knew avout scum daychat despite it never being mentioned in the rules. Says it's a Pre-Game thing. Could be a scum cover up.

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Post Post #73 (isolation #12) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 1:45 am

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In post 70, BrightEyedFish wrote:It just feels off to me.
If you were town, a scum day chat shouldn't have any affect on how you scum hunt and your response feels like you are trying to remove yourself from being tied to a scum pt.
Wouldn't you have voted me then because I was the one who actually pointed it out and kept driving it home? Or is it specifically because she asked for Mod clarification?
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Post Post #75 (isolation #13) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:21 am

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Well if you called me with a FoS as well, it'd have been a different story. Even saying me and Dva were partners overreacting would have made it more likely.

My mind just works differently, I guess.

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Post Post #77 (isolation #14) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:31 am

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Well from your "observation", who's the 3 most likely scum ATM?
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Post Post #81 (isolation #15) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:54 am

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You're trying to make sense of NotMaf. That was your first mistake.
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Post Post #84 (isolation #16) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 4:24 am

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Ehh, my current strategy is to ignore him until day 2 in which he's either obviously town or still trolling.

My one time on a scum team with him was telling, though. He bussed his entire scum team and I was willing to hang him but then town fucked themselves.

His strength is coasting and bussing.
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Post Post #95 (isolation #17) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:21 am

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Oh I do that as both town and scum. Nothing unusual there Clem.
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Post Post #103 (isolation #18) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:17 pm

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I'm already getting pocketed by DVA and I'm not even a Mercy. Halp.
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Post Post #108 (isolation #19) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:24 pm

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Oh thanks for reminding me NotMaf.

Remember that NotMaf has a history of quickhammering as town AND scum so watch your votes, because he could kill you instantly and fuck over town.

-Pedit -

Null currently all around besides you and Tic, who are my townlean and scumlean respectively. Very early estimates tho without much thought in it.

I want to talk with everyone elsa first atleast once before day 1 ends. I get my best reads when I engage someone personally.
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Post Post #111 (isolation #20) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:40 pm

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Not in the slightest.

VOTE: NotMaf

You know I didnt want to PL you because even if you're scum I'll never find any associative links to use later. But I guess I gotta bring out the water spray bottle and newspaper and EV train the fuck out of you.

Guess I'll see how everyone thinks about a day 1 PL. Seems like a dcent topic of discussion and will let me get a view into your thoughts.

Pro-Policy or Anti-Policy?
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Post Post #117 (isolation #21) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:49 pm

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But I'm no Mere Mortal, Probs50...
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Post Post #125 (isolation #22) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:55 pm

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I have no regret in giving you an invite here, Almost.

Btw, so the Mod knows, I did ask him to do me a solid and join the game but mentioned literally nothing about it otherwise.

So yeah, your welcome for the 10 minute replacement.

Thank you Elsa!
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Post Post #129 (isolation #23) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:02 pm

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So your gonna make that post, right?
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Post Post #131 (isolation #24) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:19 pm

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In post 128, Not_Mafia wrote:The third post after this will be made by scum
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Post Post #133 (isolation #25) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:23 pm

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I literally claim to be evil and get townread for it.

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Post Post #143 (isolation #26) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:50 pm

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Leave Dva be, guys. No need to be an asset with the Alt thing. If they want to be anonymous, leave it at that.

Now let's get back on the Policy discussion while we still actually have enough days in day 1.
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Post Post #150 (isolation #27) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 4:29 pm

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Auro, what part of be careful with your votes don't you remember?

UNVOTE:
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Post Post #154 (isolation #28) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 4:35 pm

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In post 150, Elsa Jay wrote:Auro, what part of be careful with your votes don't you remember?

UNVOTE:
I got distracted and forgot I moved my vote on Tac. Sigh.

But still, ALWAYS consult the VC before you do something like that. And keep anyone off of L-1 at all times because we have a very known quickhammerer.

To DVa, honestly I like people who are cautious of me trying to take lead of the town, so Clem gets points for that. Want to see what other reads he'll get.

He's in the townlean even though he sadly scumread us.
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Post Post #159 (isolation #29) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 4:57 pm

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VOTE: NotMaf

Getting that back where it belongs.

And about Tac... I know I thought he was scum but I feel some people here are getting a little to easy sheep. That's scum handbook 101.
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Post Post #162 (isolation #30) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:21 pm

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It's not that a Policy Lynch on day 1 isn't a good option for town... It's also just a way to give a chance for scum to coast day 1 without getting valuable information.

I, for one, would hate it if we only Policy Lynched NotMaf and then I died with only taking out NotMaf, who is doing the same thing anyway no matter if he's scum or town.

Auro, your account is new so I'm assuming your also new, and correct me if I'm wrong there... But what personally seems better to you?

Getting rid of a player who could be a hindrance but is garunteed to be hung before MyLo anyway. Or Getting a player to flip to get information based on who attacked and defended them?

NotMaf knows he doesnt make it to LyLo or MyLo without stepping it up. We know we can hang him at any time. Why not atleast try and find scum for now and use him only as a compromise lynch later on?
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Post Post #164 (isolation #31) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:42 pm

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But Meta is
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Me and Almost have personal experience with NotMaf. When you have experience with a player, you look at everything when reading them, meta and past personal experience included.

Personal experience tells me not to bother day 1 and instead go for other sources.
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Post Post #166 (isolation #32) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:50 pm

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Consider it... A Noisy Lurker, if you will. Good eye, Auro. He posts but he's not really posting, you know?
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Post Post #226 (isolation #33) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:14 am

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This always happens when I'm sleeping or working. Sigh.

This is another reason I REALLY was trying to avoid NotMaf as a player until later, because it always derails any conversation. Honestly he's like me in that regard, I admit. But he's on a whole different level of that.

Almost: pretty please play nice with Dva. I'm trying to make a new friend here, and making her rep out because of a different play style is always sad.

Tac: consider my vote unofficially on you at L-1 while we try to stop debating about NotMaf for a second. I still persoannly think the scumchat thing could be a slip. I want you to try and prove me wrong. Or give me a Target that isnt currently Almost or NotMaf unless they really are your only 2 scum reads.
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Post Post #228 (isolation #34) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:32 am

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I dont mind if he only wants to lynch those 2. I mind that, on the off chance he's town, he's leaving us confused and basically with 2 policy lynches back to back. And scum wins if that happens..

If he's scum that point is null, but still...
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Post Post #246 (isolation #35) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:59 am

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Policy Lynch is an action that you take against a player who's style is a threat to town in a way you feel the town would be better without.

NotMaf being a choice for it is because of demeanor and huge style difference.

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Post Post #265 (isolation #36) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 6:42 am

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Unfortunate you still dont see the beauty of smaller games, but i accept you got your own taste.

But for the sake of consistency, let's just assume we have 2 scum ATM and look for pairs. Seems fine for now right?
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Post Post #269 (isolation #37) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:15 am

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In post 268, DrDolittle wrote:
Seeking Replacement for tictac.
... We actually chased him out the game. He REALLY didn't want to deal with our shit.
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Post Post #273 (isolation #38) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:26 am

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In post 270, Sashaddin wrote:
In post 265, Elsa Jay wrote:But for the sake of consistency, let's just assume we have 2 scum ATM and look for pairs. Seems fine for now right?
This is my first 10-player and you're saying 2, so I assume 3 scums is too much for such a little town?
Honestly the Daychat is the biggest tip off for only 2 scum. Theoretically you could balance a 3 v 7 with enough PRs or kill restrictions, but with daychat that goes out the window because it's too valuable of an ability in a 10p.
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Post Post #275 (isolation #39) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:45 am

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Great, we did that. Now we're 99% sure that it's 2 scum, let's stick to the pair strategy. Or anti-pairs as well.

And when I say anti-pair, I mean a pair that looks the most likely to be scum bussing each other.
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Post Post #277 (isolation #40) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:20 am

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Since I became a God-Tier scum player, my Town Game finally is atleast average.

Also, after my 5 month hibernation and rebranding, I just perfected my skills in deduction and manipulation.
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Post Post #278 (isolation #41) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:55 am

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One player raged replaced and Dva is calming down. I don't want to spam the thread and clearly if I leave it to Almost or NotMaf we'll start a war.

That leaves half the player base. Intuition points to scum having one member there. I think I can see both there, though.

{Brighteyedfish, Clemency, Ofrhz, sashaddin,
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I townread Auro, so 1 of these four is probably scum. Let's focus there while the replacement comes along.
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Post Post #279 (isolation #42) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:51 pm

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... I was expecting at least 1 one you to respond within 5 hours of my last post and preferably before I go to sleep, in which people'll magically come out the woodwork to fuck up my plans while I'm in dreamland.

I'm bored damnit. Entertain me.
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Post Post #283 (isolation #43) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:09 pm

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No comment on Ofrhz? He doesn't leave an impression, I know, but to leave him out is sad. Or is he just Null to you?

PS: Glad your back Dva. Will wait for the replacement to make anymore progress on the slot. Wasn't gonna move my vote there anyway.
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Post Post #285 (isolation #44) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:17 pm

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I just assume he's talking about DoLittle every time. It's easier on my brain.
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Like I said. Easier on my brain.
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Post Post #347 (isolation #46) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 7:27 am

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Listen, Sandiego, I REALLY hope you can do that.

Let's see your reads then.
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Because I want to have my vote somewhere, so I'm putting it there to say I disapprove of NotMaf's methods.
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I was gonna, but then it got to L-2 amazingly fast.
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Post Post #388 (isolation #49) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:03 pm

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In post 376, Carmen wrote:Auro
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Well, that's a start for a scumlist. Still have reservations on removing DVa but I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.

Let's start here.

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I'll let you list off more reasons to scumread me tho. I'm nice like that.
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Post Post #411 (isolation #51) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:33 am

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You didn't answer my question.
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Post Post #414 (isolation #52) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:39 am

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In post 412, Not_Mafia wrote:Why did no one want to wagon Fugu when I said to do it?

VOTE: BrightEyedFish
Because no here besides me recognized a Japanese dish at all, and I was mad at you.

Plus, now Dva, someone I actually trust, said it.
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Post Post #416 (isolation #53) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:57 am

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Picking the last 2 people to join your wagon as scum
despite the fact they are not related in the slightest
is frankly a move without thought.

You could get away with reading me as Scum.

You could get away with reading Clementine as Scum.

But saying both of us are scum together? Horrible play.
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Post Post #422 (isolation #54) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:37 am

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The fact you also say I'm standard literally proves my point further. I'm nowhere near the standard of the site. Heck, when I'm scumread for good reasons, I respect the player even when they're wrong.

I've given enough scummy reasons that you should atleast TRY to make a case other then "he voted me with Clem lul".

Put your money where your mouth is and find my placed scumtells. If you can't find those, you can't say I'm scum.
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Post Post #429 (isolation #55) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:47 am

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Still waiting for your reasons for your scumread on me. I'll also accept if you can find anything on Clementine that is significant.
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Post Post #430 (isolation #56) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:47 am

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In post 428, BrightEyedFish wrote:That's assuming Scum gets town with a nk
... Are you somehiw implying Multiball in a 10p?
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Post Post #432 (isolation #57) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:51 am

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Claim like I'm a moron then.
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Post Post #434 (isolation #58) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:59 am

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In post 431, BrightEyedFish wrote:I've pretty much claimed.
Still not a claim in sight, huh?

Calculating which fake PR claim to make? I mean, that's what I think your doing. Unless you REALLY are gonna claim VT.
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Post Post #436 (isolation #59) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 3:03 am

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Hey Orfice, maybe if you claim intent he'll actually do shit.
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Post Post #439 (isolation #60) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 3:09 am

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Clem, I may not be looking too hard, but has he even soft-claimed anything? It doesnt seem like it.

And yeah we confirmed daychat is a thing.
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Day is a modifier that is normal, yes.

If he was legit though, I see no world where he tries to throw Clem under the bus as well. So he's trying for a mislynch on me because he was caught.

I'm not gonna claim if people start to run me up over a scum claiming daycop on me. A Day 1 cop at that.
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Post Post #460 (isolation #62) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 3:34 am

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Well unless your telling me your other modifier is "insane", I got no reason to beleive you when your saying I'm scum.

Plus, bringing up Dva just proves how bullshit you are.

Your FoS on Dva earlier would have been your softclaim that you checked them. But you say you checked me?
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Post Post #466 (isolation #63) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 3:40 am

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In post 461, Clemency wrote:the reason you're not hammered yet is the fact that half the players haven't seen your batshit spastic flailing yet
This as well. Perhaps your doing this to win over Almost or Carmen to your side? Carmen already scumreads me, so it makes sense...

But you still haven't done shit for Clem. Just the fact they voted 3rd on your wagon for information. We had no interaction before you called us out together.

WHERE ARE THE CONNECTING DOTS.
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In post 428, BrightEyedFish wrote:That's assuming Scum gets town with a nk
Yet you completely ignore the fact you tried to say this was Multiball, or even claiming Doc/Roleblocker would suffice this sentence.

You threw all that away with a Daycop claim.
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Pulled it out of your own typed words, yes.

Explain what that shit means relevant to your Daycop claim. That sentence doesn't come from a Daycop.
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THEN WHY DO YOU ASSUME THERE IS A DOCTOR AS A FUCKING DAYCOP.

Think of Balance, bro. A Daycop WITHOUT macho and you think there's a Doc in a 10p?
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In post 477, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 476, Elsa Jay wrote:THEN WHY DO YOU ASSUME THERE IS A DOCTOR AS A FUCKING DAYCOP.

Think of Balance, bro. A Daycop WITHOUT macho and you think there's a Doc in a 10p?

All I know is that you are anti-town.
We both know that's bullshit and also doesnt answer my question.
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Post Post #486 (isolation #68) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 4:01 am

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Sigh.

I'll wait for Carmen, Auro, Dva, or Almost to show up and call you out on your bullshit since me and Clem drilling it into you is useless at this point.

You call us (me in particular) scum. We call you out as bullshit. This won't be solved until everyone elsa regroups.

Tell me though... If you REALLY say I'm scum, how come I've helped the town more then you have?
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In post 487, BrightEyedFish wrote:What have you helped town with?
The fact you haven't read up on me this game yet decide to "daycop" me and have not supporting evidence is even more telling.
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Well fine. It's a complement because I gotta do this shit.

Mafia appear to be informed and know about Daycop because I'm the Daycop.


Checked Almost's slot and knew he was town, so when the replacement option came I made sure to get Almost because I trust his reads really well.
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Yes. Because I might as well truly and utterly destroy his case and let town know mafia is informed.

We'll deal with 1 mafia and have Almost as confirmed town.
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In post 497, BrightEyedFish wrote:Ha.
Ha.
Ha.
This is the part where you retract your claim and say your a VT screwing around to call bullshit on my Daycop and informed mafia claim.

Or this is the part whete you get lynched as scum who outted the real Daycop.

Make your choice.
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In post 4, Elsa Jay wrote:
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In post 30, Elsa Jay wrote:So quick question: do we all want to basically start the real game now or later?
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Was originally gonna claim Vanilla Cop, but then this fucker came along with this.
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Because he dinged me first and basically outted me as a PR, that's why.

Plus I dont like dying n1 so he made me sad.
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So are you backing out of your Daycop claim yet?
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Post Post #519 (isolation #76) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 4:45 am

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And your scum or stupid VT.

Claim one.
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Post Post #535 (isolation #77) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:07 am

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The fact your going this far up your ass is frankly almost impressive at this point, Fish.
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Post Post #540 (isolation #78) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:25 am

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This would turn out so much better if you just take out your Daycop claim out the picture.
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Post Post #547 (isolation #79) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:37 am

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Correction: if he flips Daycop, explanation is needed. If he's a VT you don't have to do shit.
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Post Post #551 (isolation #80) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:55 am

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At this point He's not co-operative so I'll explain it.

If He's scum: he knows if mafia is informed or not, and if there's no real Daycop his partner wont waste a shot on me because at that point he KNOWS I'm lying.

If He's a Vanilla Townie who fucked up a gambit: He should have called me out by now and rescinded his claim so we dont fucking lynch him. Actually, we'll lynch him anyway, but we atleast let him try to give his actual case on me instead of a fake Daycop.

Whether I'm really Daycop or not in either of these situations doesnt matter. I still know he isn't Daycop because the results are wrong,
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Post Post #553 (isolation #81) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:45 am

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Usually not in Mini Normals, but not impossible. If you play Larger games it's more likely to happen.

Doesnt matter though. He's not Daycop.
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Post Post #573 (isolation #82) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:21 am

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He's old man rambling plus it lets us see his thought process. Let him do it. It helps us in the long run.
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In post 574, Clemency wrote:i mean does it? it just feels like he's taking everything really out of context
how does this help our case
He's experiencing it all at real time like we did. If he read it all at once his thoughts would be different. Trust me, this is good for Town.
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Post Post #606 (isolation #84) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:49 am

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Well since Dva invited, he's only at 4 now.

Love how he went silent now as well.
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I accept no responsibility on the off chance he flips VT, but since I gave him a better example of what to do in such a situation, I hope he takes it to heart and learns for next game.
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Post Post #615 (isolation #86) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:03 am

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Its a thing you can apply for on-site that is basically the nice version of the Speakeasy. Its An acronym for Get too Kbow a Scummer.

The Speakeasy is where you find NotMaf in his natural habitat, as well as memes and politics and basically everything in between.

You can apply for the Speakeasy in your settings somewhere. Like how you apply to mod a game. Its a similar group that's open for everyone to apply to.

GTKAS is a separate thing you can apply to if you just dont want to deal with the Speakeasy and read about a page made as a spotlight to a certain player.
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Post Post #618 (isolation #87) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:06 am

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In post 616, DVa wrote:Why does it link to Plotinus's profile page?
Nani?
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Post Post #619 (isolation #88) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:07 am

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... I linked the wrong damn thing. Brb.
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Well now it actually does what it's supposed to do. And if you go Under User groups in your settings, you can apply for it. You can read it without having access to it.
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Post Post #622 (isolation #90) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:13 am

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In post 620, Elsa Jay wrote:Well now it actually does what it's supposed to do. And if you go Under User groups in your settings, you can apply for it. You
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Post Post #628 (isolation #91) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:59 am

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Well we know that regardless of if he flips scum or VT he scumread me for ... Gut? I really wish he didnt do what he did and actually gave a good case.

@Almost: Boyo, that is not a good thing. But i guess you should hide behind me then. No way scum woulf shoot me to take BOTH of us out.
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Post Post #632 (isolation #92) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:05 am

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Almost, why must you try to murder me as well.

For all you know I'm a PGO who'll shoot your ass and you fuck us both over.
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Post Post #634 (isolation #93) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:07 am

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In post 623, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 621, DVa wrote:
You are not authorised to read this forum.
That's what you get being a smelly alt
Btw NotMaf, anything you want to legitimately contribute towards the conversation before the flip?
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Post Post #637 (isolation #94) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:15 am

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Can I claim Innocent Child yet?

The Mod already revealed me, but his post is invisible until my untimely demise and flip.
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Post Post #662 (isolation #95) » Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:09 am

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In post 642, Sashaddin wrote:So Elsa Jay's counter claim was just a big lie.
VOTE: Elsa Jay
If you couldn't tell after my last posts that my role claim was fake I really don't knlw what to tell ya. Will answer fully when not at work
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Post Post #674 (isolation #96) » Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:15 pm

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I think weirdly, so let me explain while I head out to eat.

I claimed "informed mafia" because I was in a game recently that had that brought up as a possibility, so I was seeing if Fish was informed and i was trying to get shot by the mafia to prove if they're informed.

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Didn't expect him to turn out to be the real damn TPR fake claiming or ANOTHER TPR to get shot.
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Post Post #676 (isolation #97) » Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:19 pm

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... Which is a Town Power Role? I dont see the difference.
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Post Post #681 (isolation #98) » Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:24 pm

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No, I wanted them to shoot me if they were informed about there being a Daycop. But then again, if they
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So I guess they could be informed since they didn't shoot me? I didnt think this through.

Pedit: the VC was too get shot or WIFOM the fuck out of the game obviously, but since Fish day 1 did it, I'm not trying my hand at that shit anymore.
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Post Post #683 (isolation #99) » Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:28 pm

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To get shot or CCd by the other vigilante or something? Some mods can be a dick like that.
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Post Post #684 (isolation #100) » Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:29 pm

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As for Auro not shooting... Guess he wasn't confident in a n1 shot or was confident he himself wasnt getting shot?

Poor luck on us it regardless.irregardless
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Post Post #694 (isolation #101) » Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:41 pm

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In post 643, Clemency wrote:sigh, why does this happen every game

i've got the pepsi, i'm in for the long haul

VOTE: Elsa Jay
Also, Clementine, we were think and thin yesterday but you suddenly turn against me? I thought you could tell I was fucking around.

I know we were put together by unconventional circumstances, but wth. Your first post after we were together day 1 on day 2 is to throw me away.
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Post Post #699 (isolation #102) » Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:47 pm

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Hey, fish called me out on a Gambit. He actually scumread Clem.

Can we actually look at what Fish and Auro thought before they died btw?
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Post Post #708 (isolation #103) » Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:43 pm

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In post 696, DVa wrote:
In post 694, Elsa Jay wrote:Your first post after we were together day 1 on day 2 is to throw me away.
guess he's 'letting you go'?

I'll see myself out
1: I'll remember this.

2: after basically scaring off Tic Tac, I'd rather have more decent evidence before I go for someome elsa ATM.

Currently looking at everyone besides Dva and Almost again. I trust those 2 and they have wildly differing perspectives.

{Carmen, Sashaddin, Ofrhz, NotMafia, Clemency}

If I divide it further...

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Those 2 groups probably have one scum each.
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Post Post #711 (isolation #104) » Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:55 pm

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NotMaf if you actually give me a 100 word or more paragraph about why Carmen is scum I'll follow your guidance.
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Post Post #714 (isolation #105) » Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:04 pm

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... Probably should have specified it to be a serious paragraph. But you did what I asked, so you get the vote.

VOTE: Carmen

UNVOTE: Carmen

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Post Post #716 (isolation #106) » Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:11 pm

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This is just a random thought on my mind but...

10p means if we hang a townie and have a townie shot at night each night, that means... We only get 3 strikes and then we're out.

We're playing a terrific form of fucking baseball here. We get 3 chances to not fuck up. And we used one yesterday.
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Post Post #718 (isolation #107) » Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:00 pm

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Hopefully a good case will be here when I wake up tomorrow. It better be good.
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Post Post #725 (isolation #108) » Sat Nov 03, 2018 1:25 am

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In post 724, Clemency wrote:i'll explain my logic on why my vote is on elsa once im back
I thought the logic was that I made a scummy gambit on top of another scummy gambit?

You have something elsa one me I don't know about?
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Post Post #727 (isolation #109) » Sat Nov 03, 2018 4:20 am

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The mafia doc doesnt make much sense in a 10p imo though. Wouldn't that mean (if we assume one doc one goon) that even if the vigilante shot, they'd hit the goon and not even have their shot go through?

The More likely option is a gunsmith then. Town maybe, but scum probably have a PR of their own, and finding the vigilantes seems good enough.

So Mafia Goon and Mafia Gunsmith with daychat against 8 townies? Do we even have another TPR? Setup spec is always weird.
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Post Post #742 (isolation #110) » Sat Nov 03, 2018 9:24 am

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Is that as a PR claim from NotMaf?
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Post Post #747 (isolation #111) » Sat Nov 03, 2018 9:42 am

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I'm still at work until 5. CST in America so wait until then.
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Post Post #748 (isolation #112) » Sat Nov 03, 2018 10:09 am

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In post 740, DVa wrote:A50 you're going to have to explain your read because my desire to prevent Not_Mafia from being alive in lylo is rising again.

I can't say he's lockscum but I don't really care what he is if he's totally unsortable.

If your towntell is him shitposting, I'm not even sorta convinced. If your towntell is him voting more than one person, I'm also not convinced. So if you have some secret towntell outside of those two behaviors, you can say so.

What are the odds that mafia settle it for us and kill him instead?
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If we hang a townie today we go into MyLo with NotMaf. Not syper reassuring, I admit. Gotta reread but I think sash asked me a question while I was at work,
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Post Post #753 (isolation #114) » Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:25 am

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In post 735, Sashaddin wrote:
In post 708, Elsa Jay wrote:If I divide it further...

{Ofrhz, Sashaddin}
{Carmen, Clemency, NotMafia}

Those 2 groups probably have one scum each.
Why would it be either orfhz or me? Because she is voting me at the moment? Maybe voting 2nd on a need-5 wagon could distance us efficiently as scums? :)
I notice your second set contains all the voters (except DVa whom you trust), is there another reason I'm not seeing besides what I said?

I don't want to come out bullish or anything, it's just that I've had these questions in mind since I read your post and now I feel like asking.

You and Ofrhz fall under what I call "follower scummers". You aren't the ones who come up with the plans, just follow them. One of you 2 seem likely to be the lackey scum for Carmen, NotMaf, or Clementine. All three of those have their own agenda, so I know 1 of them is the Scum leader.
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In post 511, Elsa Jay wrote:
In post 4, Elsa Jay wrote:
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In post 30, Elsa Jay wrote:So quick question: do we all want to basically start the real game now or later?
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In post 492, Elsa Jay wrote:Well fine. It's a complement because I gotta do this shit.

Mafia appear to be informed and know about Daycop because I'm the Daycop.


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What makes you think I didnt put my real claim in my fake claim, Almost?
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I dont see the need to have more then 1 possibly-fake claim at this point, so I'll just stick with the VC check on you, thank you very much.

A simple question to counter your distrust...would I put a gambit in a gambit on top of another person's gambit?
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Post Post #765 (isolation #117) » Sat Nov 03, 2018 2:08 pm

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In post 757, Sashaddin wrote:
In post 753, Elsa Jay wrote:You and Ofrhz fall under what I call "follower scummers". You aren't the ones who come up with the plans, just follow them.
If I were scum, I'd probably be a follower, indeed. Thanks for your detailed answer!
I'm also not ignoring the fact you said this, Sash. What the HECK is this? I atleast expected you to go after Ofr for that, or even me... But nobody? Sigh.

Among Clem and Carmen, who is more likely to be scum in your opinion? Or if you REALLY think it's NotMaf, explain why in better detail.

I'll also accept a case on me to show you're trying.
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Post Post #777 (isolation #118) » Sun Nov 04, 2018 4:12 am

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What happened to that case you were gonna build on me? Why Carmen now?

Clementine, why must you be like this.
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Post Post #784 (isolation #119) » Sun Nov 04, 2018 5:22 am

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In post 781, Clemency wrote:oh and, yeah, i'm not vt since i saw that come up
... Your claiming BG or Doc? Also, why claim now instead of push Carmen or someone elsa?
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Post Post #792 (isolation #120) » Sun Nov 04, 2018 6:07 am

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Notion seconded.
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Post Post #794 (isolation #121) » Sun Nov 04, 2018 6:14 am

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In post 782, Clemency wrote:has someone claimed town protective because if so they're lying
With a statement like that, yeah.

Who were you on on the off chance you blocked Auro's shot.
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Post Post #801 (isolation #122) » Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:05 am

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Well your claim basically invalidates the hypo-claiming entirely. Sigh.

But im gonna Currently even out the roster so 2 people are at L-2. I need actual information from Carmen first.

VOTE: Sashaddin

Since NotMaf isnt on this wagon, consider him basically at L-1.
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Post Post #805 (isolation #123) » Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:19 am

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I don't see any other PRs being in a 10p though if he is legit. He could always not be legit, of course, but that's the point. A hard-claim destroys the hypo-claims ATM.

Pedit: from you, Sash? Just wait for Carmen.
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Post Post #809 (isolation #124) » Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:58 am

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Why do you think I keep saying Clementine?

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Post Post #810 (isolation #125) » Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:50 am

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La la lala la.

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Post Post #817 (isolation #126) » Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:41 am

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If they have no idea if it's a good strategy or not and they're asking, then that is NAI there.

Plus, he could have been told to do it in scumchat or something.
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Post Post #818 (isolation #127) » Mon Nov 05, 2018 2:41 pm

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VOTE: Carmen

Decided to do a quick activity check, and research points to scum apathy as a possibility here. Considering that even if Sash is scum they are less of a threat and my original suspicion on Tic Tac...

The only thing holding me back is Clem's behaviour but somehow I gotta pray his role resolves itself.

@Almost: what if we make Clem stay on you or someone elsa here? I know Strongman or Roleblocker is a possibility, but it's better then nothing, right?
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Post Post #822 (isolation #128) » Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:01 pm

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Siteflake still doesn't make her not scum tho. And with Clem's claim, do you see any other viable lynch?
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Post Post #823 (isolation #129) » Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:03 pm

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In post 819, Almost50 wrote:
In post 818, Elsa Jay wrote:@Almost: what if we make Clem stay on you or someone elsa here? I know Strongman or Roleblocker is a possibility, but it's better then nothing, right?
It's a two edged sword. On the one hand we keep someone we trust most alive. On the other hand, we give scum a road map on where NOT to shoot. I say let's him pick his protection target himself, unless you do NOT trust his claim. Personally I have no reason to think he's faking.
But guiding the scum shot with 8 people left and 2 of them being Scum seems viable. Maybe 1 scum left though with Carmen's flip.
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Post Post #825 (isolation #130) » Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:19 pm

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In post 824, DVa wrote:How is Sashaddin not a threat as scum? I'd rather lynch low activity scum than siteflaking town...

and idk, still not really blown away by Clem's claim personally
Ive had him as Null/Possible scum follower. Him or ofh. NotMaf had at least gotten better now, you and Almost are the 2 I trust, and Clem's claim is only a band aid for today. And, of course, I trust myself.

Process of elimination in my eyes points to Sash/ofh and Carmen. Rather get rid of the garunteed then the 50/50.
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Post Post #827 (isolation #131) » Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:29 pm

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So you want to lynch Sash then? Any reason for them over ofh?

Obviously I got weirded out by them going "yeah okay you're right" after me saying what their scum meta would be, but saying your main case again would be nice.

I think he's at 3 votes now still?
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Post Post #831 (isolation #132) » Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:54 pm

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A town divided is known to do jackshit and lose games.

People not getting lynched today (IMO):
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People I'd prefer not Lynched:
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People in consideration:
Carmen
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Basic addition of 3 + 1 shows that Carmen is at 4 votes. Half the town agrees this is the best play.

Considering that the one's not on the wagon are herself, the ofr/Sash duo I don't trust, and you Dva, I'd prefer if you were the hammer this time unless you think extending the game is the better play.
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Post Post #833 (isolation #133) » Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:12 pm

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... Um. I think your looking at this as a Solo mission, DVa. Unfortunately, this is a team mission. And the Team says Carmen.

I mean, I'd be willing to vote with you, but clearly we got 3 people who won't budge. There's 2 scum, so not all of them is Scum. Convince someone more about Sash or debunk more stuff on Carmen?

We'll get nowhere like this.
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Post Post #837 (isolation #134) » Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:34 pm

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Aye Yai Yai.

VOTE: Sashaddin

Only because you guilt tripped me. Push come to shove, I'm garunteeing we don't accidentally No Lynch, however unlikely it is.
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Post Post #839 (isolation #135) » Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:39 pm

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Where did you even come up with that Nickname anyway? Is it because for some reason I keep getting shipped with my own sister?
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Post Post #844 (isolation #136) » Mon Nov 05, 2018 5:18 pm

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Wikipedia wrote:Gay is a term that primarily refers to a homosexual person or the trait of being homosexual. The term was originally used to mean "carefree", "cheerful", or "bright and showy".
The original version or the new one?
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Post Post #847 (isolation #137) » Mon Nov 05, 2018 5:29 pm

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Sash, do you actually think Clem is a BG?
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Post Post #852 (isolation #138) » Mon Nov 05, 2018 5:44 pm

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Mod's probably still asleep RN. We'll deal with that later.

Sash, put the 7 people here that aren't you in a lynch order for me? From 1 through 7. I want to see where you are currently.

Pedit: I dont dislike or like anything about them. That's the problem.
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Post Post #853 (isolation #139) » Mon Nov 05, 2018 5:46 pm

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In post 849, Sashaddin wrote:
In post 847, Elsa Jay wrote:Sash, do you actually think Clem is a BG?
Well if there are vigilantes I guess there could be BG to spice things up, but the claim was made with a weird timing. So I'd say it's plausible, but improbable to me.
I'll also point out I don't really believe the claim either, but that's not a battle worth fighting yet.
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Post Post #863 (isolation #140) » Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:28 am

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See, this is why I'm suspicious of him, and really have no reason to beleive his claim. If I scumread someone, my read doesn't go away because they claim TPR. And I legitimately think he could be just using it as cover because he also never soft'd a claim. This was a play made when it seemed like he was a possible lynch.

I won't be happy unless he confirms he's on someone like you, Almost. Maybe Dva. But I want to know this shit. I dont want him saying it was a gambit and go "oh, I tried to bait the nk and guarded x instead of y". He's a 2-shot, so he says, so I want him to make it count.
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Post Post #869 (isolation #141) » Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:09 am

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Well I'm gonna pray Dolittle actually gets a replacement soon then. Because otherwise I'll have to be the hammer vote tonight.

For now, let's look at the possibilities:

1: Carmen flips scum, we got 1 scum left who'll kill someone tonight and it'll be 1 v 5. We'll also have the associations of a scumflip to be done. That'll probably be the end of the game.

2: Carmen flips town. We have 2 scum who'll kill someone tonight and put it at 2 v 4, aka MyLo. We have to look at certain... Pairs and anti-pairs again. Let's hope this doesnt happen.

Almost, what Pairs looks likely to be together of all of us as scum? And if Carmen flips scum, who is their partner?

Dva, I know you read Almost as scummy, so do you think NotMaf is his possible partner, or a pocketed townie vote?
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Post Post #871 (isolation #142) » Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:18 am

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Alright then. I hope it's swift and the person we get is very good at gamesolving.

(For some reason I feel I'm about to get voted by them)
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Post Post #876 (isolation #143) » Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:30 am

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In post 875, DrDolittle wrote:This is me
... You pagetop'd for this?

Takes a while to do the VC.
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Post Post #880 (isolation #144) » Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:30 am

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Give me a legitimate incentive then.
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Post Post #889 (isolation #145) » Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:32 am

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I'll give the mod until 5 PM my time. So an hour and a half. I'll hammer if there's no replacement. Sorry Dva.
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Post Post #899 (isolation #146) » Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:09 am

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Oh, so your like how I was/am but worse.
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Post Post #902 (isolation #147) » Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:15 am

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Dva you know I want to side with you but literally everyone now besides you and maybe ofh want Carmen gone. 45 minutes till the hour I hammer.
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Post Post #905 (isolation #148) » Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:17 am

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... You're claiming 3rd vigilante. Nani?!?!
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Post Post #907 (isolation #149) » Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:22 am

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Because honestly even I wouldn't shoot me as Scum. Probably Almost/Clem getting shot if not you.
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Do you wanna chew on that thought or do you just want me to move it to day 3? You might want to make a case on the off chance Clem is a fake or mafia have strongman/roleblocker.
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Post Post #914 (isolation #151) » Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:45 am

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What's the scum motivation though trying to save a sinking ship? Why would she do this even if Carmen is her partner?
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Post Post #917 (isolation #152) » Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:50 am

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In post 915, Almost50 wrote:
In post 914, Elsa Jay wrote:What's the scum motivation though trying to save a sinking ship? Why would she do this even if Carmen is her partner?
We are 6v2. A mislynch+a NK = 4v2 (LyLo) already.
I've been saying that for awhile, yes. But that doesn't explain Scum!Dva putting everything in defending Carmen here.
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Post Post #918 (isolation #153) » Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:57 am

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Sigh. 5 more minutes. Anyone here want to make any last words before we basically ignore this game for 2 days straight?
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Post Post #923 (isolation #154) » Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:02 pm

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I'm calling your bluff and will pull a NotMaf.

VOTE: Carmen

I mean, unless your scum wanting to kill me anyway.

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Post Post #927 (isolation #155) » Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:05 pm

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Yeah, feelsbad scum is gonna kill me for petty revenge.
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Post Post #929 (isolation #156) » Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:07 pm

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Stay on target and pray for a miracle.
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Post Post #932 (isolation #157) » Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:09 pm

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In post 930, DVa wrote:You should guard me

After my kill tonight I'm confirmed town, or the game will be over if Elsa flips green anyway
Aye Yai Yai. What is this game...
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Post Post #934 (isolation #158) » Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:12 pm

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Imagine though if the Mod actually did just find someone but we murdered them anyway.
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Post Post #937 (isolation #159) » Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:16 pm

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And now I'm Appearantly getting shot. No matter what though, Clementine... STAY ON ALMOST.
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Post Post #939 (isolation #160) » Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:19 pm

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See you in hell, partner.
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Post Post #946 (isolation #161) » Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:38 pm

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Well fuck.
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Post Post #950 (isolation #162) » Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:56 pm

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In post 930, DVa wrote:You should guard me

After my kill tonight I'm confirmed town, or the game will be over if Elsa flips green anyway
Still want to know what the hell this is. And hey, Almost, your just in time to defend NotMaf for a third time.
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Post Post #953 (isolation #163) » Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:08 pm

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Not a town power role, if you must know. I just REALLY fucking trust your judgement.
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Post Post #958 (isolation #164) » Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:28 pm

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I TOLD you between Ofrhz and Sash was scum, didn't I? You know who I also said had scum between them?

NotMaf, Carmen, and Clem. The only hesitation is what Dva is trying to do.
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Post Post #963 (isolation #165) » Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:41 pm

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Better nickname then Smellsa Gay, that's for sure.
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Post Post #964 (isolation #166) » Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:43 pm

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Oh yeah, why aren't we voting for Ofrhz when you said you got a guilty on them?
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Post Post #967 (isolation #167) » Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:45 pm

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VOTE: Ofrhz

So unnoticeable to me that I even forgot you had a guilty on them for a second.
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Post Post #969 (isolation #168) » Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:52 pm

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I still actually want information from Dva and NotMaf before he dies though.
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Post Post #973 (isolation #169) » Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:55 pm

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... FUCK.
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Post Post #975 (isolation #170) » Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:57 pm

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In post 974, Sashaddin wrote:
In post 972, Sashaddin wrote:Should I pull my vote before NM quickhammers?
Sigh
Irony is sad and timing is humor. This is sadly humorous.

Now we know jackshit because I didnt think to unvote in case of a quickhammer from themselves. Fuck.
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Post Post #977 (isolation #171) » Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:59 pm

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What about that NotMaf "towntell" of yours though?
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Post Post #980 (isolation #172) » Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:03 pm

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... How in the world did you notice that shit? Jeebuz your observation skills are scary.

Also, we hung a dude in only 1.5 hours real time. We are REALLY fast lynchers.
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Post Post #982 (isolation #173) » Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:05 pm

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You scummy mothafucka cow. Hammering your teammate should be illegal.
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Post Post #984 (isolation #174) » Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:09 pm

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For future reference: My vote is on Not_Mafia tomorrow. Yes I just used his real name.

So as a preemptive day 4... VOTE: Not_Mafia
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Post Post #986 (isolation #175) » Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:11 pm

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Hey Almost, perhaps if all 3 of us vote him we can lynch him as well today and end the game!
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Post Post #989 (isolation #176) » Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:17 pm

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In post 987, Not_Mafia wrote:Clemency and Carmen were scum, they’re role PMs may say “town” but they were scum, DVa is still the dullest player of all time and tomorrow’s lynch should be Smellsa Gay or Sashaladdin
You don't even bring up Fugu? And you say go for Sash despite the gunsmith clearing them?

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Post Post #1018 (isolation #177) » Fri Nov 09, 2018 1:47 am

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I have been summoned. He just HAD to start it while I was asleep.
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Post Post #1019 (isolation #178) » Fri Nov 09, 2018 2:04 am

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In post 1009, DVa wrote:
In post 30, Elsa Jay wrote:I can get us ice cream for either occasion.
I guess since I didn't really have any time to process everything during whatever the fuck happened earlier, I do kinda want to ask why you would crumb neapolitan as a vt

also, can you explain A50's townread on you? do you know why he thought you were town elsa?
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Knowing EJ, this looks like how town him would in fact go about it. He's a nasty manipulator as both alignments, but his propositions here do not come from Scum!him, I don't think. Plus it could have baited a VIG shot on him as well (and we know now that -at least- Auro could've shot EJ).
He did eventually scumread me in that day but we played a crapton of games in the past together and he knows me enough to lower it to NotMaf and you.

Speaking of you, btw... Ignoring NotMaf's vote on me and my prayer he wouldn't throw as town, can you tell me again why you're town here? I know you got super frustrated at the Carmen lynch, but (maybe through no fault of your own) you weren't uere during day 3. And Ofhrz quickhammered himself.

Did he do it so we couldn't discuss to find his partner? To cover YOU up since you didn't post and we had NotMaf as the prime suspect? It's leaving some lingering doubt in my mind. Please help me clear it up.
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Post Post #1020 (isolation #179) » Fri Nov 09, 2018 2:17 am

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In post 1015, Not_Mafia wrote:Because I'm town
Speaking of you, NotMaf, I'll admit it. I'll never be able to townread you for your actions because I can't read your actions. I really trust Almost and his reads, and even HE doubted himself, the confident man that he is. So I'm giving up on reading you and will decide the game when I'm 100 pecrent sure what Dva is.

Sashaddin is our IC here, so hopefully he can help me figure out Dva and solve this game together. Or, if he also suspects me, to let me clear his thoughts on the matter with any questions he has.
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Post Post #1022 (isolation #180) » Fri Nov 09, 2018 3:15 am

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In post 956, Almost50 wrote: I am an Informed Gunsmith.
My information is all scum have guns (that means no scum Doctor,
so that's why I went through loops to suggest they have a RB).

My results are ofrhz has a gun (obvious from my D1 hypo claim) and Sasha does NOT have a gun (N2 check).

Since all scum have guns; Sasha is 100% clear. Now who was pushing Sasha the most? DVa was. Who else has a gun? ofrhz does. Is it hypothetically possible N_M is scum? Hypothetically yes, but I am the investigative, and Clemency was the protective, and we had 2 Vigs flipped, (that's 3 Millers for my role), so I don't really think the whole Town carries guns.
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Post Post #1024 (isolation #181) » Fri Nov 09, 2018 3:39 am

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Sigh.

In regular non-Newbie games, IC means "Innocent Child", otherwise known as Confirmed town. It could be a Mod-Confirmed town or (what you are) an investigated confirmed town.

Your the only one here truly confirmed here.
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Post Post #1026 (isolation #182) » Fri Nov 09, 2018 3:49 am

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If your town, yes I do.
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Post Post #1028 (isolation #183) » Fri Nov 09, 2018 3:55 am

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Well at this point even if your town, you realize your making yourself the lynch and thereby throwing?
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Post Post #1030 (isolation #184) » Fri Nov 09, 2018 4:06 am

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VOTE: Not_Mafia

I wanted to be 100 percent sure it wasnt Dva but if your gonna be a dick about it, fine.
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Post Post #1035 (isolation #185) » Fri Nov 09, 2018 4:09 am

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THEN GIVE ME A DAMN GOOD REASON.
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Post Post #1037 (isolation #186) » Fri Nov 09, 2018 4:14 am

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My God... You really give zero fuck about this game, do you?
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Post Post #1040 (isolation #187) » Fri Nov 09, 2018 4:23 am

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Finally you use fucking reason when your about to die. But if you had done this day 2 or even day 3 you would have actually have given me something to townread you for that wasn't from Almost.

Day 4 is too late to try this shit.
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Post Post #1044 (isolation #188) » Fri Nov 09, 2018 4:25 am

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...

...

...

Dva. What the hell are you doing.
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Post Post #1047 (isolation #189) » Fri Nov 09, 2018 4:32 am

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In post 1033, Not_Mafia wrote:Smellsa, let's vote DVa
In post 1034, Not_Mafia wrote:He just posts for the sake of posting
In post 1036, Not_Mafia wrote:Bad reads, bad gambits, bad username
In post 1038, Not_Mafia wrote:I'm not going to go through and do a post by post breakdown because I'll go in to a coma

But what DVa actually done all game, what scum has he pushed, how has he advanced the game state? His posts may have "words" but they're all empty calories
In post 1042, Not_Mafia wrote:VOTE: Smellsa Gay

I told you all it was Smellsa
This... This is just. Just horrible.

Of course between your mind its me and NotMaf. Like for him it's me or you. Or for me it's you or NotMaf. But if you want to look at you not instantly hammering as making you town, then fine. It's between me and NotMaf fypov still anyway.

Pedit: alright then. Okay. Sure.
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Post Post #1050 (isolation #190) » Fri Nov 09, 2018 4:47 am

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I literally said that day my preferred lynch that day was Sashaddin or Ofrhz. I didnt want to lynch the Carmen slot but half the town was already voting there and didn't seem in any position to want to change.

Day 1 eventually could have ended in lynching NotMaf but BEF claimed Daycop for no damn reason and got himself lynched. Day 3 we had an automatic guilty from our investigate so we lynched Ofrhz. Day 2 was fucked by Carmen bailing and a stubborn town.

And which crumb do you mean now? Ive laid a lot of them so I dont know the specifics.
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Post Post #1056 (isolation #191) » Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:01 am

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The ice cream one I explained in 1019, but I'll post it again here.

Like I said, the ice cream thing was a weird AF double gambit. Claimed the Daycop thing to get shot, that failed, then i soft reclaimed Vanilla Cop. That Also failed when Clem hard-claimed.

For the fast replacement thing? Plain and simple, Almost is my friend. I went out of my way to do that because he was my friend.

You also saw how impatient Almost got with the replacement thing happening, so for better or worse I was being a pal and following him and the rest of the town. I'm sure you ALSO reread it and saw Sashaddin was gonna hammer if I didn't. I just sped up the process.
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Post Post #1058 (isolation #192) » Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:10 am

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Vanilla Cop has a gun?
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Post Post #1063 (isolation #193) » Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:53 am

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I just reread the gunsmith page and now I remember cops have guns. Sigh.

I do weird things, I admit it. I just wanted to hace that softclaim interpreted for mafia to shoot me or something. I picked ice cream because I'm the Ice Queen and it's snowing here, so it felt appropriate.
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Post Post #1067 (isolation #194) » Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:48 am

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In post 1065, Sashaddin wrote:
In post 1063, Elsa Jay wrote:I do weird things, I admit it. I just wanted to hace that softclaim interpreted for mafia to shoot me or something. I picked ice cream because I'm the Ice Queen and it's snowing here, so it felt appropriate.
Why would you want mafia to shoot you?
Because sometimes I know when to die, plus I was known beforehand to only want to Survive instead of win the game. I'm trying to correct that nowadays. I WANT to win, so the fact another townie claimed Daycop to get me killed earlier and ruining any future gambits from me made me sad.

Its a lesson you learn with time that you should die for the good of town once in a while.
I made a GTKAS. Go shitpost in it if you want. It's very lonely.

"Even when I leave mafia and play an entirely different game I can't escape you you menace." - North/Wenya
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Post Post #1080 (isolation #195) » Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:35 am

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In post 1075, DVa wrote:
In post 476, Elsa Jay wrote:Think of Balance, bro. A Daycop WITHOUT macho and you think there's a Doc in a 10p?
Elsa comments on setup spec balance but doesn't know gunsmith interactions?
I comment on what I know. I might have dealt with a gunsmith in the past? Actually, I rechecked and I never did. But like I said, ice cream + snow Queen = funny claim, so I just went with it at random. No actual background with the role.
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Post Post #1084 (isolation #196) » Fri Nov 09, 2018 1:52 pm

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I have REALLY not even tried to hide my old account. It's not that big of a secret.

If you want, here's a list to the wiki I made with my relevant games, though slightly outdated and missing 2 or 3 games.

My old account literally has the same Elsa image except this is a fullbody picture.
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Post Post #1086 (isolation #197) » Fri Nov 09, 2018 1:58 pm

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No correlation. But I do have an alt named Bambietta Basterbine. I want to reuse that one eventually.
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Post Post #1089 (isolation #198) » Fri Nov 09, 2018 2:07 pm

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I mainly played in the open and semi-open Queue which never had a Gunsmith, so it was never a priority to me to read about it until I encountered it. And even then, I just thought it was another type of Cop that would also find vigilantes. Now I know better.

I could be scum here, so I'll never 100 percent deny that. But I know I'm not. That and my play this game is all I can offer.
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Post Post #1092 (isolation #199) » Fri Nov 09, 2018 2:12 pm

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Well I didn't, because I thought gunsmith was just a fancier version of Cop. Which, it still is, really.
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