Open 738: Purgatory | LA FIN

[Keyser Söze]

Gonna re-post my post:

LCP very town

Share why please. "Very" demands relative supporting reasons.

VOTE: the worst

>: fam
do i get to pawn the ring you gave me now?

I need to see that spark, ducky.
So far I feel like in your recent posts, it looks like you've

started

with a read in your mind, then labelled NAI posts as "very town" when they aren't (i.e you know who is town already)
Suspicious bro... am I caught in confirm-bias?

[the worst]

I need to see that spark, ducky.
So far I feel like in your recent posts, it looks like you've

started

with a read in your mind, then labelled NAI posts as "very town" when they aren't (i.e you know who is town already)
Suspicious bro... am I caught in confirm-bias?

show me example of post you find nai that i called very town?
i wholeheartedly disagree that i'm supporting reads i already had!

[the worst]

I'm

Korina probably town
LCP very town

which part/s do you disagree with?
if i can focus on that we can cover more ground

[Keyser Söze]

{LabRat, Creature, ?KeySo?}

Me same level as creature?

I don't like your tier's bro.

Are you making these up, usually I can see through your eyes. Sense your focus, feel your suspicion.

You'll have to substantiate them all soon.

@Irrelephant - what you think?


P.EDIT Ok, we can go through LCP's posts if you like.

[the worst]

KEYSER
SOZE
READ MY LATER POST

AND TELL ME WHY YOU DON'T LIKE THEM

[the worst]

tbh i thought lcp had posted more than he had lmao
i'm secretly slightly informed via meta but let's roll

[the worst]

Hi o/

D1 is hell, right?
VOTE: labrat

He probably only noticed it because he got it in his rolecard
Lcp aka mr hyde

do you think you'll be able to read him?

Played two consecutive completed games with him recently, so I hope that helps me.

btw, DrJ is a hydra of korina and LCpl Jones (or sth like that) so unless the "brother" you're talking about is fat enough to count as 2, you should prob be using plurals

DrJ is a good short name - noted.

do it

WIFOM says you're not scum partners:
If not,

as partners

, it would seem you've made too much of a conscious effort to try to distance eachother (through anti-distance...?)

Playful RVS vote eachother...
You going all about how you dug up their first scum game and read ten whole pages of it as part of meta research...
Creating an awkward dis-connection between you two, which I conclude is: 2xVT or 1 goon-1 VT interactions.

You'll notice it's primarily one sided - I would see it more as him trying to pocket us (I'm assuming that word means scum buddying town - or have I been using that word wrong? )

Lcp

Currently reading Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde's and LabRat01's posts to/in relation with eachother... I will give a supported estimation whether they are scum partners in the next half hour.

This sounds like you are trying to get out of RVS / shitpost stage. That would give me a slight town inclination on you.

oh so we're pretending derp clears have actual merit or

?

I don’t think anyone should read any of pg 1 as anything but tongue in cheek shitposting

I don't agree that much with this. Imo people should be held accountable for their words even in RVS. Esp. in later days it can show a lot in hindsight.


For reference I usually get on twice or three times a day then disappear between that so please don't think I'm lurking - that's my usual pattern

Korina should hopefully be here soon.

what part of this isn't sod1 town to you tho friend?

[Keyser Söze]

Let's do one by one.

Hi o/

D1 is hell, right?
VOTE: labrat

He probably only noticed it because he got it in his rolecard
Lcp aka mr hyde

HEY LCP<33

Are you null here or "very town" here?

[the worst]

So far I feel like in your recent posts, it looks like you've started with a read in your mind, then labelled NAI posts as "very town" when they aren't (i.e you know who is town already)

{LabRat, Creature, ?KeySo?}

Me same level as creature?

I don't like your tier's bro.

Are you making these up, usually I can see through your eyes. Sense your focus, feel your suspicion.

You'll have to substantiate them all soon.

@Irrelephant - what you think?


P.EDIT Ok, we can go through LCP's posts if you like.

quoting for postgame

[the worst]

Are you null here or "very town" here?

town
that's a solvey mindset for mid-rvs, esp when most of the thread is shitposting/claiming scum
i always try to come out of rvs with some kind of read and wasn't getting strong vibes on anyone else

[Keyser Söze]

My comments in

mafia red

added:

Hi o/

D1 is hell, right?
VOTE: labrat

He probably only noticed it because he got it in his rolecard
Lcp aka mr hyde

I personally wouldn't jump to calling that town so fast.

do you think you'll be able to read him?

Played two consecutive completed games with him recently, so I hope that helps me.

btw, DrJ is a hydra of korina and LCpl Jones (or sth like that) so unless the "brother" you're talking about is fat enough to count as 2, you should prob be using plurals

DrJ is a good short name - noted.

do it

WIFOM says you're not scum partners:
If not,

as partners

, it would seem you've made too much of a conscious effort to try to distance eachother (through anti-distance...?)

Playful RVS vote eachother...
You going all about how you dug up their first scum game and read ten whole pages of it as part of meta research...
Creating an awkward dis-connection between you two, which I conclude is: 2xVT or 1 goon-1 VT interactions.

You'll notice it's primarily one sided - I would see it more as him trying to pocket us (I'm assuming that word means scum buddying town - or have I been using that word wrong? )

Lcp

Yeah, I admittedly like this post... it's very 'I'M TOWN AND TALKING FROM A TOWN PERSPECTIVE'. But still I wouldn't call it "very town" as it can be faked by a skilled manipulator.

Currently reading Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde's and LabRat01's posts to/in relation with eachother... I will give a supported estimation whether they are scum partners in the next half hour.

This sounds like you are trying to get out of RVS / shitpost stage. That would give me a slight town inclination on you.

...and later on he thinks I'm keeping everyone in RVS... I don't know, a cheap way to give town points to me.

oh so we're pretending derp clears have actual merit or

?

I don’t think anyone should read any of pg 1 as anything but tongue in cheek shitposting

I don't agree that much with this. Imo people should be held accountable for their words even in RVS. Esp. in later days it can show a lot in hindsight.


For reference I usually get on twice or three times a day then disappear between that so please don't think I'm lurking - that's my usual pattern

Korina should hopefully be here soon.

This is more game theory tal than game-solving talk. In no world would I bestow Dr J "very town" points for this opinion about RVS.

what part of this isn't sod1 town to you tho friend?

So in conclusion

... yeah, I don't understand how you get to "VERY TOWN".

I thought you would demonstrate a bit more paranoia and a balanced judgement here (what I would expect from town Ducky)

Or am I the only one struggling to get a strong town read on Dr J?


@Dr J - do you think it is rational for the worst to call you "very town? What am I missing here?

[Keyser Söze]

After these unsatisfactory results, please substantiate your other reads too.

[the worst]

honestly i called him "very town" because he pinged town to me consistently while he is posting, i'm cognisant of the fact that him sounding like that early is town indicative...and also i was biased by korina's posting later

i think that slot's reasonably obviously town, i'll be reevaluating it but i don't feel like i should be paranoid...? or doubting that people who sound like town in rvs might be tEh ScUmZ?

[the worst]

tbh you're the read i'm the most angery about because i really like townreading you

i hate sharing tells and i think i have a pretty good towntell on you
gonna wait for someone to weigh in on if i need to explain why i think you're woofin' so early/if they don't see it

[the worst]

better qualified as

{tw}
{relly, Jek/Hy}
{lefty}
{Carmen, Volxen} ~ null
{KeySo}
{LabRat, Creature}


KeySo is liable to be shifted up p quickly but i don't have the warm fuzzy feelings i'm waiting for yet!!
also i have the right number of nullscum/scumleans so i'm ok here fro the moment

throw me a read you want explained, any read.

[Keyser Söze]

Are you null here or "very town" here?

town
that's a solvey mindset for mid-rvs, esp when most of the thread is shitposting/claiming scum
i always try to come out of rvs with some kind of read and wasn't getting strong vibes on anyone else

Do you think mine and rat's "solvey mindset for mid-rvs" is fake/forced/manufactured then?

Why don't my RVS posts warrant the

'always try to come out of rvs with some kind of read'

townie mentality?

[Keyser Söze]

throw me a read you want explained, any read.

I'll wait til you've fully caught up bro.

[the worst]

Are you null here or "very town" here?

town
that's a solvey mindset for mid-rvs, esp when most of the thread is shitposting/claiming scum
i always try to come out of rvs with some kind of read and wasn't getting strong vibes on anyone else

Do you think mine and rat's "solvey mindset for mid-rvs" is fake/forced/manufactured then?

Why don't my RVS posts warrant the

'always try to come out of rvs with some kind of read'

townie mentality?

yes, and yes
show me where you think i should be seeing town from you here?

[the worst]

throw me a read you want explained, any read.

I'll wait til you've fully caught up bro.

i'm caught up af fam, fighting off a hangover but i am READY TO ROLL

[Keyser Söze]

Are you null here or "very town" here?

town
that's a solvey mindset for mid-rvs, esp when most of the thread is shitposting/claiming scum
i always try to come out of rvs with some kind of read and wasn't getting strong vibes on anyone else

Do you think mine and rat's "solvey mindset for mid-rvs" is fake/forced/manufactured then?

Why don't my RVS posts warrant the

'always try to come out of rvs with some kind of read'

townie mentality?

yes, and yes
show me where you think i should be seeing town from you here?

Here is my question again (to make my point more clear):

You have attributed solid town feels to Dr J's effort to gamesolve during RVS.

What is unique about his vote/reasons versus my RVS game solving content?

Why doesn't my desire to come out of RVS with a read, equate to "very town"?

Why can't rat's pursuit for reads during RVS be classified as a "solvey mindset for mid-rvs"?

You've jumped head first on both town-Dr J, and scum-Rat - I need to see/feel/understand why.

[the worst]

*thumbs up*
brb

[Keyser Söze]

What's more important right now is...

We both wouldn't vig kill Dr J right now....

so convince me why Rat/Creature is scum

.

[the worst]

Spoiler: how to read rvs like a ducky with too much time on his hands!!

no confirmation?

and first

VOTE: Dr J-sth

Mafia Role PM

[snipped spoiler tags]

You are a

Goon

(aligned with the town).

Your teammates are: […]
You can talk to them at any time on the mafia chat. [Link]

Each phase you may vote a player in order to send them to Heaven or Hell.

You win when majority of the Mafia is sent to Heaven.
You lose when majority of the Mafia is sent to Hell.

[link] to the game thread.

btw

@manatee

, just noticed that you put "aligned with the

town

" in the example mafia role-card

goons reveal yourselves!
lol

that's what you get from copy-pasting stuff

I'm actually kinda curious if the goons got that in their RCs as well or is it just a one-time thing

true random rvs apparently is nai
mechanical solving and flooding with fluffposts reeks tryhard in a way that town doesn't need to do in rvs

fwiw i think wolves are like 5% more likely to pick up on the typo than town but that's kinda not all that AI either

whaddup

VOTE: Keyser

GOATs only

cute pun, obviously saw your avatar before
this is rarely partner indicative fyi

I'm actually kinda curious if the goons got that in their RCs as well or is it just a one-time thing

Did you double check?

vibes solvier than not, but not strong; he's approached this with some kind of wolf and/or curiosity ping from Labby's observations which is kewl

I'm actually kinda curious if the goons got that in their RCs as well or is it just a one-time thing

Did you double check?

fortunately I can't

wanna check it for me?

The old switcheroo

nice

fluffy/bantery NAI

wanna check it for me?

Nah, it's not there.

VOTE: Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde

scum probably make this comment as "too scummy to be scum" like SLIGHTLY more than town make this comment but also fluffposting

wanna check it for me?

Nah, it's not there.

VOTE: Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde

aww, that's a shame VOTE: carmen
I'm p sure some form of it should be there though, cuz the bracket thingy is written in my RC
wanna check it again? or are you lying in order for someone to notice this "contradiction" and derp you as town?

this post made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up

ugh, I was talking about the town RC if it wasn't obvious

I was re-reading the thread and noticed that my post could be understood as a disgusting joke
that vote was half-serious, it was not pure RvS, so read it as so

and c'mon, someone write sth
it's boring being here alone

pings wolfy again that she was conscious enough of what she posted to feel like someone would read her post and assume she's talking about a scum rolecard

sigh, gn

oh so we're pretending derp clears have actual merit or

?

I don’t think anyone should read any of pg 1 as anything but tongue in cheek shitposting

originally shitting on derpclears as an institution kinda rubbed me the wrong way but in this case i actually pretty strongly agree that the derpclear conversation/interaction between Labby and Carmen felt gross

Hi o/

D1 is hell, right?
VOTE: labrat

He probably only noticed it because he got it in his rolecard
Lcp aka mr hyde

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shiptoasting aside like, town!LCP is the kinda guy who wears his heart on his sleeve. this is also v much the kind of observation that i'd expect from him, and the kind of thing i'd expect him to raise itt. this is actually my first thought upon seeing labby's original pickup about the sample scum role pm so also 0.01 point for hiveminding with me for a sec (can't award anymore because it's a pretty easy pickup still, it's towny. and assuming it's coming from a mAsTeR sCuM mAnIpUlAtOrZ before it's just coming from town strikes me as heavily counter intuitive given this setup and how early we are

The mistake has been fixed. I would appreciate it if talk of Rolecards stopped

anti angle shooting good faith mods best mods <3

oof, I was just about to explain my bullshit theory in detail :/
that's a shame
vote stays though

early gamesolving was a typo in the mod post, speculation which >rand comes from scum before town, and an angleshooty theory which she can no longer post
she then does not explain why she's voteparking this

Godammit! Still haven't rolled scum with

the worst

(there were even improved odds too: 3 from 9!)

Did you know I can lick my own ears?

Okapis that is. Not me.

oh so we're pretending derp clears have actual merit or

?

I don’t think anyone should read any of pg 1 as anything but tongue in cheek shitposting

SCUM! For trying to discredit a semi-valid reason to t/read someone this early.

VOTE: Lefty

i'll talk about why i didn't like this post if someone i townread wants me to scumcase you but there's...no town indicative solving here fmpov
if i should be seeing something towny from your slot and i'm being Dumb And Bad [tm] please point me in the right direction tho bc i like townreading you a lot

Hi o/

D1 is hell, right?
VOTE: labrat

He probably only noticed it because he got it in his rolecard
Lcp aka mr hyde

hi btw, I've read the first 10-ish pages of your first newb game on MS. You played well, I prob wouldn't have been able to catch you

either buddyish or pointless, net NAI

uhh, dunno if the grammar is correct, but w/e

I'm prob gonna be making a lot of grammar mistakes btw. I'm not really good at it

Godammit! Still haven't rolled scum with

the worst

(there were even improved odds too: 3 from 9!)

btw, were you planning to say this since before the game started?

I recall someone saying that they want their alignments to be the same as in the watchers game, were you scum there?

and why do you want to roll scum with them

NAI
either useless or 1% buddyish wrt lcp and 1% "easy interaction" aka. partner indicative with you
all things considered i probably swing NAI before anything else but welcome to the deep dark depths of my paranoia

Currently reading Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde's and LabRat01's posts to/in relation with eachother... I will give a supported estimation whether they are scum partners in the next half hour.

@Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde - is there a way of abbreviating your name brother? It's quite a mouthful.

not towny
will not talk about unless a townread wants you scumcased

Godammit! Still haven't rolled scum with

the worst

(there were even improved odds too: 3 from 9!)

btw, were you planning to say this since before the game started?

I recall someone saying that they want their alignments to be the same as in the watchers game, were you scum there?

For some reason I thought it was a 7:2 setup... learnt from the OP that there are in fact three mafia! "majority of scum" makes sense now though: we only need to send two mafia to hell to win (?).
the worst is a great character to play with as town or scum -

I think we would have just as much fun together as town or scum

.
In the Watchmen game we were both town.

Currently reading Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde's and LabRat01's posts to/in relation with eachother... I will give a supported estimation whether they are scum partners in the next half hour.

@Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde - is there a way of abbreviating your name brother? It's quite a mouthful.

do it

btw, DrJ is a hydra of korina and LCpl Jones (or sth like that) so unless the "brother" you're talking about is fat enough to count as 2, you should prob be using plurals

w h o
c a r e s

Godammit! Still haven't rolled scum with

the worst

(there were even improved odds too: 3 from 9!)

btw, were you planning to say this since before the game started?

I recall someone saying that they want their alignments to be the same as in the watchers game, were you scum there?

For some reason I thought it was a 7:2 setup... learnt from the OP that there are in fact three mafia! "majority of scum" makes sense now though: we only need to send two mafia to hell to win (?).
the worst is a great character to play with as town or scum -

I think we would have just as much fun together as town or scum

.
In the Watchmen game we were both town.

yep

do you think you'll be able to read him?

fits within either town or scum ISO
imo this is not a solving post, just one that could be construed either way/i feel like i should be more emotive about if that makes sense?

Jesus this site formatting makes phone posting hard

@Soze I’m not sure how serious I should be reading you rn

i like this reaction to a first time seeing you Keyser ;>
not strongly AI just.. ~fluid~

still more likely to come from a MaStEr ScUm MaNiPuLaToRz than LCP's posting!

But based on 28 & 29 in succession I’m assuming somewhat serious?

i do actually like the fact he clearly went back and thought about how seriously to take you

Jesus this site formatting makes phone posting hard

@Soze I’m not sure how serious I should be reading you rn

you should always be serious

(no, but seriusly, the game won't progress on its own so just do sth)

btw, does that mean IF you were serious, you'd have a read on him? mind elaborating?

oof, just noticed I understood the post wong

1) lamist > solvey, 1% wolf scented
2) o k
and?

do you think you'll be able to read him?

Played two consecutive completed games with him recently, so I hope that helps me.

btw, DrJ is a hydra of korina and LCpl Jones (or sth like that) so unless the "brother" you're talking about is fat enough to count as 2, you should prob be using plurals

DrJ is a good short name - noted.

do it

WIFOM says you're not scum partners:
If not,

as partners

, it would seem you've made too much of a conscious effort to try to distance eachother (through anti-distance...?)

Playful RVS vote eachother...
You going all about how you dug up their first scum game and read ten whole pages of it as part of meta research...
Creating an awkward dis-connection between you two, which I conclude is: 2xVT or 1 goon-1 VT interactions.

But based on 28 & 29 in succession I’m assuming somewhat serious?

I believe I've been serious in each post so far (all reads/conclusions) based on the limited data so far.

I admittedly amped up my suspicion/scum feels for you to 11 for effect though.

I admittedly amped up my suspicion/scum feels for you to 11 for effect though.

*up to 11
[snipped spoiler tags]

still not talking about unless a townread wants you scumcased
in case you hadn't noticed, my read on you is a bit more 4D than my reads on {Labby, Creature}
it's also more liable to be wrong than those two are imo but you're not making me feel like it is

I understood what you meant lol. I figured as much at the time, but then you followed up with Dr. J/Rat spec so I wasn’t sure. I’m not really interested in arguing the merits of it anyway

How are you reading Dr. J and LabRat independently?

this is more towny than Labby's "read the post wrong" moment imo, what do you think?

Reads 2 pages in??


Well, Dr J hasn’t impressed anything on me yet.

Labrat has come into the game seemingly relaxed (comfortable, open chatty aura)... the role pm error spot gave him his entrance... since then raising questions... yeah nothing much to allocate as significantly alignment indicative. It’s his tone which maybe goes in his favour.

s/s ping
still not talking about further unless a townread wants you scumcased

do it

WIFOM says you're not scum partners:
If not,

as partners

, it would seem you've made too much of a conscious effort to try to distance eachother (through anti-distance...?)

Playful RVS vote eachother...
You going all about how you dug up their first scum game and read ten whole pages of it as part of meta research...
Creating an awkward dis-connection between you two, which I conclude is: 2xVT or 1 goon-1 VT interactions.

uh, that was connected to the game, but it was pre game
I prob wouldn't have had enough time to read 10 pages of another game after getting the RC even if I tried it

this is a post

whaddup

VOTE: Keyser

GOATs only

CHAINSAWING KEYSER, THE TRUE GOAT
VOTE: lefty

the hero has arrived~~~~!

I mean, you already decided they’re not M/M in two pages so why not

I like this ridicule :3 and think it reads slightly against you/Lefty being aligned fwiw

oh so we're pretending derp clears have actual merit or

?

I don’t think anyone should read any of pg 1 as anything but tongue in cheek shitposting

I mean some sites open day 1 by aggressively shitposting which is v v boring

I often carry some reads out of rvs and reality check them later ;>

whaddup

VOTE: Keyser

GOATs only

CHAINSAWING KEYSER, THE TRUE GOAT
VOTE: lefty

But the sheep pic tho

I thought it was funny

Hi o/

D1 is hell, right?
VOTE: labrat

He probably only noticed it because he got it in his rolecard
Lcp aka mr hyde

HEY LCP<33

oh so we're pretending derp clears have actual merit or

?

I don’t think anyone should read any of pg 1 as anything but tongue in cheek shitposting

I mean some sites open day 1 by aggressively shitposting which is v v boring

I often carry some reads out of rvs and reality check them later ;>

I shoulda said *this* pg 1. At least in regards to the responses in the RC talk

Soul reads are real, man. I get it

Godammit! Still haven't rolled scum with the worst (there were even improved odds too: 3 from 9!)

ilu keyser

Jesus this site formatting makes phone posting hard

@Soze I’m not sure how serious I should be reading you rn

try phoneposting on mu lmao

MU doesn’t even work on my phone unless WiFi

Rip

obv my thoughts here became more obvious because this is where i entered the thread!!
i also kinda enjoyed my real time interactions with lefty and in case it isn't already obvious voteparked him for teh reacshins

[the worst]

talk to me if you disagree with how i came out of rvs with reads but i think {labby, jek/hy, lefty} slots were the most readable. you'd be in fourth place for making my brain ache but i'm still sitting on that one a little longer. <3
creature is a weak read obviously but like. he appeared itt when called out, posted enough completely unsolvey shite to look like he's not stereotypical lurker scum creature, then disappeared

couple of specific tells as well but if you think i'm gonna tell him what i'm looking for from town!him this early you don't know me

[the worst]

You'll notice it's primarily one sided - I would see it more as him trying to pocket us (I'm assuming that word means scum buddying town - or have I been using that word wrong? )

i also like this post
it flows on from his initial uncomfortable read on labby pretty smoothly and i actually agree with where he's coming from

net of all things in a COURT OF LAW i don't think labby's actions were all that strongly alignment indicative but in a vacuum the buddyish vibe towards lcp's slot was the first thing i picked up on and i also think it's >rand town for lcp to state this itt

This sounds like you are trying to get out of RVS / shitpost stage. That would give me a slight town inclination on you.

faintly town scented but not overly AI

I don't agree that much with this. Imo people should be held accountable for their words even in RVS. Esp. in later days it can show a lot in hindsight.

faintly town scented but not overly AI



what are you reading differently here? i'm not even gonna go into Korina's posts because the kid gives me a migraine but i just think this slot is super obvtown?