Open 72 - Mountainous Multiball (Game over) before 595

[StrangerCoug]

Vote: scumbag

I think that's self-explanatory.

[StrangerCoug]

OMG A OMGUS!

Oh calm down. We're in random voting mode.

[StrangerCoug]

Vote: No Lynch

No Lynch is lurker scum!

are you actually advocating a no lynch?

No, I put my random vote on No Lynch because he *never* contributes. :p

Everybody needs a sense of humor

[StrangerCoug]

Isn't the first round exciting?

We're getting there xD

[StrangerCoug]

unvote; vote: DizzyIzzy

for having a dumb reason to vote for Mike :p

unvote, vote SmintyLost23

, 'cause, y'know, she sucks. :p

And why does she suck? To me, this has OMGUS written all over it.

[StrangerCoug]

Unvote, Vote: roflcopter

First off, may I ask you and TheSweatpantsNinja how saying a vote appears to be OMGUS is a scumtell? Second, how do I know you're not mindlessly bandwagoning?

[StrangerCoug]

Answer for you, roflcopter:

Mindlessly bandwagoning is worse, in my opinion. "Mindlessly random voting" is redundant, because when you random vote, you pick somebody for no apparent reason. Random voting on a day start seems to be a good way to spark conversation until something of note happens, but mindlessly bandwagoning is a good way to tell the others that you're letting other people form your opinion for you.

[StrangerCoug]

And, like, it really depends on the band, yo.

I was typing the answer to roflcopter's question, and your post wasn't there yet when I started.

So I, the new guy, overreacted on what is and isn't a bandwagon. Shoot me.

[StrangerCoug]

So I, the new guy, overreacted on what is and isn't a bandwagon. Shoot me.

i can't, no vigging in a mountainous game

You suck ><

[StrangerCoug]

Vote: StrangerCoug

for bandwagon accusation thing

Go on, go on… Blame the new guy and see if he really cares in the long run. It's just a game.

[StrangerCoug]

Hey mod, I'm currently voting for roflcopter, not scumbag!

[StrangerCoug]

So you say every last one of us is scummy. Even yourself, I bet.

…Nothing wrong with that in and of itself, I just find it funny that you did that xD

[StrangerCoug]

Roflcopter, who isn't on the bandwagon currently?

don't try to make light of the fact that i called you out for sidling onto that bandwagon there, scum.

guys i'm serious about this voodo vote, we're beyond the random votes now. some of you are starting to look like you could be scum trying to avoid having to actually contribute. dizzyizzy, i'm looking at you here.

Look what I've started xD But yeah. It's time to get real. I may have stopped really caring about the votes for me (even though, yes, I must defend them), but Voodo, if you're going to vote for me, then you really need to have a reason. You gave none. At least roflcopter was agreeing with TheSweatpantsNinja when he voted for me.

Unvote, Vote: Voodo

[StrangerCoug]

Yeah!

Also, I just noticed DizzyIzzy813...my nickname is Izzy, and my birthday is August 13th

Mine is December 13th!

Here's another 13 for you, DizzyIzzy813: Were you born 13 days later, you'd be exactly two years younger than me.

Also: I believe voodo's at lynch -2 if I'm not mistaken?

[StrangerCoug]

EBWOP:

That should read DizzyIzzyB13. Darn you Freckles, messing me up ><

[StrangerCoug]

vote: alvinz95

happpy? :p

Didn't roflcopter and I say not to vote without a reason, and isn't that exactly why my vote's on voodo right now?

FoS: mike (and scumbag, while I'm at it)

[StrangerCoug]

Vote voodo.

I believe that's L-2, contradicting what someone else said earlier.

Yeah. I skipped over Mellowed Man's unvote for him, so

NOW

he's L-2.

[StrangerCoug]

Why don't I get to vote? Or does it say I'm not voting because I haven't yet?

You're not voting because you have not yet done so.

[StrangerCoug]

Vote for Scumbag

, cus well, he's a scumbag///

I thought we were past the random voting stage.

[StrangerCoug]

Second, it's not that random.

Fine. It's arbitrary then. Which is really the same thing as far as I care.

[StrangerCoug]

Also: DizzyIzzyB13, roflcopter,scumbag, StrangerCoug, TheSweatpantsNinja Are your mafia

You do realize that we're not allowed to answer that question, right?

[StrangerCoug]

You do realize that wasn't a question, right?

:p

Note to self: Pay attention ><

[StrangerCoug]

unvote, vote Voodo

Case looks good to me, as he is probably scum.

Then reiterate the case. Preferably with evidence. At least you attempted to give a reason and I don't have the right to yell at you for not having one.

[StrangerCoug]

I'm a scumbag in real life.. if you vote for me again.. you will never see daylight again IN REAL LIFE

WHAT!?

You plan to actually kill another player… in Meat World!?

HoS: scumbag

[StrangerCoug]

mellowed man is even worse than scumbag.

please join me in voting him.

Why?

[StrangerCoug]

Vote: voodo

unvote, vote Alvinz95

you are lurking!!

Golly Gee.

You guys are so immature, and young!

Greasy I don't really mind if you hammer.

unvote, vote Voodo

Case looks good to me, as he is probably scum.

these are all of the posts mellowed man has made in this game.
in them, he has managed to produce absolutely nothing of value and also hypocritically accuse somebody else of lurking.
as i said, please join me in voting for mellowed man.

mellowed man is more of an active lurking flavor than a straight up lurker. this is much scummier.

he's also a goddamn hypocrite.

I don't think I need to repeat you, roflcopter.

Unvote: Voodo, Vote: Mellowed Man

[StrangerCoug]

He's voting me, what a noob!

Bandwagon hopper!!!

Yeah, right, I'm either. You make a case of lurking and you lurk yourself, and now you're guilty of an OMGUS vote. Keep it up and see what other prizes you win.

[StrangerCoug]

unvote, vote Alvinz

He requested replacement, let's save the mod replacement looking, and lynch this fool! =)

What in your right mind makes you think this is of any help to town?

[StrangerCoug]

Immature and young we may be, but at least we have some basic idea how to play the game, amirite?

Yes, sir, you are.

[StrangerCoug]

unvote, vote: mellowed man

So you're going to just stop by and throw mellowed man at L-1 without saying why?

FoS: alvins95

[StrangerCoug]

And I believe that's the hammer.

[StrangerCoug]

FoS: Greasy Spot

just to make sure this guy hammered within reason.

(I'm going to try to get in the habit of that, and it should help with discussion.)

[StrangerCoug]

What I think:

Vodoo and MM are not on the same team.

Sminty and Scumbag are.

The only way this makes sense is if Vodoo is a townie, as we know MM was mafia.

Sminty and Scumbag are the werewolves. While I didn't see much reason for them to eat TSPNinja last night, the only thing I can think of is they did it to throw us off of their trail and make us lynch vodoo.

Explain your thinking.

i'm torn between voodo and strangercoug.

so i'll split the difference and follow a hunch for now.

vote: dizzyizzy

In the post after this, you give an inkling about why you think Vodoo is scum, but what about DizzyIzzyB13 and me?

[StrangerCoug]

fos: greasyspot

seemed pretty eager for a lynch. opportunative scum?

Or just pathetic Town.

You've got to give a better explanation for your hammer vote than that.

Vote: Greasy Spot

[StrangerCoug]

repeat after me: hammer votes are not scummy.

especially when he warned us he was going to hammer.

especially when the guy he hammered was scum.

unvote, vote: strangercoug

Hammer votes are not scummy, especially when he was going to hammer, especially when the guy he hammered was scum. But…

fos: greasyspot

seemed pretty eager for a lynch. opportunative scum?

Or just pathetic Town.

You've got to give a better explanation for your hammer vote than that.

Vote: Greasy Spot

Cause he was scum.

How did you know this before you hammered? Yes, I had my reasons to hammer him (why would anyone in their right mind advocate lynching somebody about to be replaced?), but you never gave us anything decent. Do I know that you didn't bus your scumbuddy? No I do not. Am I aware of more than one scum faction? Yes I am. Am I pretty sure you're in one of them as opposed to the other? Yes I am.

Now what have you got to say to that, President Coolidge?

[StrangerCoug]

The fact that Greasy did eventually hammer him could be interpreted as Greasy killing off his scum buddy in order that to create distance. the fact that he hammered scum is in no way a certain town tell. Especially since he could also be a wolf hammering an enemy.

Yes he could be a werewolf, but if he is, then how did he know that Mellowed Man was Mafia? He did not, nor has he said anything else as to why he hammered.

I'm always one to suspect the hammer, but then again, I do it as a double-check measure against the hammerer. Right now, he's failing the double-check. If looking at the hammer vote is scumtell when you voted for that person too, so be it, but that's the strategy I'm adopting, whether I helped kill the lynchee or not.

[StrangerCoug]

Well....with 2 mafia, 2 werewolves, and 8 townies I would be at a serious disadvantage to hammer my own partner.

I see where you're going there. It'd be different if it were 3:3:6, but it's 2:2:8 and lynching your scumbuddy means you have to deal with everybody else in the game on your own.

I believe it's safe to say that the other Mafioso, whoever he or she may be, is

NOT

happy.

…You're free to go.

Unvote: Greasy Spot

[StrangerCoug]

can i get some help wagoning strangercoug here? my vote is lonely.

how kind. i will indeed vote for someone with no real case against them simply because you asked me to.

on the other hand: greasy my dear, how

did

you know MM was scum?

Well let's look at his posts:
Post 6: Vote: voodo
Post 59: unvote, vote Alvinz95 you are lurking!!
Post 129: Golly Gee. You guys are so immature, and young!
Post 139: Greasy I don't really mind if you hammer. unvote, vote Voodo Case looks good to me, as he is probably scum.
Post 174: unvote, vote Strangercoug. He's voting me, what a noob! Bandwagon hopper!!!
Post 176: unvote, vote Alvinz. He requested replacement, let's save the mod replacement looking, and lynch this fool! =)
Post 190: I have nothing to say for myself.

Let's see. In 7 posts he managed to vote 5 times with no helpful analysis other than calling people lurkers, immature, young, noob, and Bandwagon Hopper. Then he wants to lynch a guy who asked for replacement.

You tell me "Does that sound like a townie to you?".

I would not have noticed that without paying attention. Good catch. #176 was the tip-off to me.

[StrangerCoug]

strangercoug

seriously lets lynch him

The first mass bandwagon you organized was fine, and we nailed on what we agreed was pretty obvious scum. Now you're asking that I be lynched in a similar manner. Since when do you run this show?

Vote: roflcopter

[StrangerCoug]

Well, scumbag, you've posted a grand total of nine times in this game, and your only post elsewhere was in the queue to get in here. You've posted little if anything of substance in your case against Freckles and said nothing about your vote for Voodo.

Unvote: roflcopter
Vote: Scumbag

Say something decent and of actual help if you want to be playing past today.

[StrangerCoug]

please note that the bandwagon i organized yesterday ended in a scum lynch. the one i'm organizing today will too.

Maybe it will, maybe it won't. But bandwagoning someone every single game day hoping that who you lynch is scum is pretty scummy. Let others think. If others think that I am scum, then they'll go ahead and join you. If they think I'm not scum, then that's them.

[StrangerCoug]

Freckles, remember, you were leading the wagon against Scumbag.

Yes, I do remember, hence all my remarks about screwing up

Vote: Freckles

for the bandwagon Voodo brought up that she now happens to regret.

[StrangerCoug]

I'm still waiting for a case to be made that I'm scum beyond "OMG! Izzy wasn't around to be able to vote for MellowedMan! Total scum!!!".

I

don't have a case, but I don't know about anybody else. It is perfectly possible that the one Mafioso bussed the other, actually.

[StrangerCoug]

I'm not going to vote Freckles. She is a very good player, she just made a mistake with the bandwagon.

As voodo pointed out, StrangerCoug was very quick to vote for Freckles. It was too sudden, and the fact that he voted for her right after voodo brought up the bandwagon reason makes it look bad...

Vote: StrangerCoug

If her only defense is "I made a mistake", then OK, but it should be used

VERY

sparingly, and only if you honestly made a mistake.

[StrangerCoug]

Freckles is fairly new, so how does this make freckles a very good player?

Nice attack there.

[StrangerCoug]

EBWOP: technically just greasy seeing as I already voted for stranger. but they might be a pairing...

Well, he and I currently have our votes on the same person, so it makes some sense…

[StrangerCoug]

Mod: There are currently five people dead, not three like it says in the first post.

Corrected - Thank you.

[StrangerCoug]

I'll either vote for Freckles or SmintyLost (seems like she's had a lot of "Hmmmm" posts recently, and that looks like she's been trying to go under the radar)

Which one? They're both female, I believe.

[StrangerCoug]

I meant SmintyLost.

In fact,

Vote: SmintyLost

. As I said, she seems to be trying to stay inconspicuous by simply paraphrasing what others have said and then going "Hmmmmm."

Looking at her posts in isolation, there are only two or three things she has said in this game that are actually decent. We know who she thinks are paired together, and she also says that she is familiar with the play styles of some of the other players in another forum, but I do not believe that she has done any actual scumhunting.

The forum I'm from, Mafia is played very differently, and I had to get used to the differences. As I do not know the forum that SmintyLost speaks of, I do not know anything about Mafia played on said forum.

TL,DR version: She has a hunch, and she should, but she is not actively pursuing it. Instead, she defends others based on a site that we do not know.

Vote: SmintyLost23

until you actually start posting stuff of substance.

[StrangerCoug]

Stuff of substance? Who says I haven't been posting stuff of substance? I have stated who I think may be a scumpair, and said my opinions on the Freckles-Scumbag bandwagon incident...

What specifically do you want to hear from me?

Why GreasySpot?

Why me?

[StrangerCoug]

Overall, I do not get any scummy vibes from his posts. He is playing very softly, and not pressing any issues seriously. This may be an actively lurking situation, as none of his votes have held much substance. But for now, I think there are more suspicious characters in the game.

Well, at least I'm posting. I probably should be scumhunting more actively, but yeah, I think I get your picture.

[StrangerCoug]

Lynch -1. Oy.

But yes, SmintyLost23, you need to make a decision as to who is scum and provide evidence from this thread as to why. Grimmy's right about my post #333.

[StrangerCoug]

Whew! Tough game

Good try, town.

[StrangerCoug]

I

JUST REALIZED

that we were in the endgame during the last night. The only hope the town had was if we and Dizzy (now that we know she was Mafia) were to send out hits for each other, and I was afraid of one of us dying given there a 40% chance of happening as opposed to the 25% we had of killing the last Mafia.

Numbers worked out, and here Voodo and I are xD

[StrangerCoug]

i'm torn between voodo and strangercoug.

so i'll split the difference and follow a hunch for now.

vote: dizzyizzy

yeah there's my first post of day two after starting the bandwagon on the scum day one i'm so awesome.

If my calculations are correct, your chances were 10% that you would organize a bandwagon on scum, and it turns out the 10% was in your favor. You would have been

DANGEROUS

to us if you were still alive, and Voodo didn't me to NK you because you knew we were working together.

Numbers and strategy. That's what Mafia seems to be.

[StrangerCoug]

Why did the WWs get two kills on the last night?

We didn't. We killed DizzyIzzyB13, and DizzyIzzyB13 killed Grimmy. Counting the endgamed players, though, we killed three people that night.

[StrangerCoug]

Hip hip hooray, the mod beat me by 20 seconds.