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Post Post #0  (isolation #0)  » Fri May 20, 2016 5:36 pm

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Post Post #142  (isolation #1)  » Wed May 25, 2016 11:13 am

garen goes full damage now?
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Post Post #162  (isolation #2)  » Wed May 25, 2016 11:04 pm

I don't know. Maybe because you only placed 5 wards the whole game?
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Post Post #319  (isolation #3)  » Tue Jun 07, 2016 5:09 pm

In post 314, hiplop wrote:Image

GOLD!!!!!


would you care to play 4 or 5 games in a row with me as TF, hiplop?
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Post Post #325  (isolation #4)  » Tue Jun 07, 2016 8:14 pm

In post 323, Papa Zito wrote:Wow zoraster really?

GL in your promos Maestro.


hiplop and sleepy invited me to a game like they've done probably a dozen times before. We're just hanging out in voice chat talking and whatever. It's not until 20 minutes in that I realize they've queued me up for a ranked game and my "lemme try TF for one of the first times" didn't really work so well.
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Post Post #332  (isolation #5)  » Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:07 am

Time for me to clear my queue of nominated players to the club. Please let me know if you are these people or if you know who these people are:

Shaziro
Phantom Karthus
ConebreadIH
Clumsyninja23
Beckyyy
tatetothetot
HolySpiritTurtle

I'll reject these soon if I don't hear from someone.

I believe I only have 4 slots left in the club as well, so if you're inviting your seldom-used alt, I probably won't take it.
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Post Post #335  (isolation #6)  » Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:18 am

shaziro and beckyyy have been invited. ConebreadIH hasn't played in 18 days, so I'm happy to invite him if he becomes active again. Still waiting on tatetothetot, clumsyninja23 and HolySpiritTurtle.
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Post Post #341  (isolation #7)  » Wed Jun 08, 2016 10:29 am

okie dokie. both clumsy and GiF are LoL club enabled.
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Post Post #366  (isolation #8)  » Fri Jun 10, 2016 9:39 am

what's that in response to, myko?
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Post Post #369  (isolation #9)  » Fri Jun 10, 2016 12:31 pm

you think there are fewer than 200 players who play 8+ hours a day?
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Post Post #375  (isolation #10)  » Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:51 pm

I don't think everyone who's a pro or in challenger is smart in a broad way, but almost all have better decisionmaking than the vast majority of players. I don't tune into league players to figure out their thoughts on Proust, but the ability to quickly analyze a situation, decide what to do, and (in the case of pro play) communicate it to your teammates is definitely a kind of intelligence that I don't take lightly.

Much of that comes from time in, but when we're talking about the very, very tail end of the skill curve, we're not talking about just hard work.
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Post Post #377  (isolation #11)  » Fri Jun 10, 2016 6:29 pm

what if i'm bronze v, llamarble. What then?
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Post Post #399  (isolation #12)  » Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:50 am

I once played a TT game with 5 bots (not like.... riot bots but leveling up bots). It was awful.
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Post Post #425  (isolation #13)  » Wed Jun 15, 2016 8:45 am

In post 414, dramonic wrote:Hippo is turning toxic :p


In fact, I've made him a new avatar.

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Post Post #446  (isolation #14)  » Thu Jun 16, 2016 1:29 pm

In post 443, lil g wrote:Hiphop doesn't have gold disease, he's got kicked dog disease.
Someone said something to him last night during a rageblade vayne fiasco and we got an actual laundry list of excuses, I think doing laundry might actually have been one of the excuses. Poor guy needs to focus when he plays cause when he stops paying attention, he drops 3 tiers.

Oh wait, I know someone else who has that exact same problem but it's usually phone related...


Hiplop's great. But I suspect I was as forgiving as Jess would have been were she in my shoes.
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Post Post #451  (isolation #15)  » Thu Jun 16, 2016 9:31 pm

In post 449, hiplop wrote:
In post 446, zoraster wrote:
In post 443, lil g wrote:Hiphop doesn't have gold disease, he's got kicked dog disease.
Someone said something to him last night during a rageblade vayne fiasco and we got an actual laundry list of excuses, I think doing laundry might actually have been one of the excuses. Poor guy needs to focus when he plays cause when he stops paying attention, he drops 3 tiers.

Oh wait, I know someone else who has that exact same problem but it's usually phone related...


Hiplop's great. But I suspect I was as forgiving as Jess would have been were she in my shoes.

I did have a horrible allergy attack like an hour before the game! I didn't wanna play but I had nothing else to do.

Realized it was a mistake pre quick in


Do you use nasacort or flonase? It's not a quick-fix thing as it takes a couple of weeks of daily usage to start working really well, but it helped a TON with my fairly bad allergies when I was in Texas and Rome. And both are now over the counter at least in the US. Also you can take Zyrtec with it for really bad days.
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Post Post #476  (isolation #16)  » Sun Jun 19, 2016 9:49 pm

At some point they have to rework Yorick.
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Post Post #525  (isolation #17)  » Fri Jun 24, 2016 4:58 pm

I removed Penguin and lolnifty as neither seem to have played a game in 2016. I'm at the max for the club, so this allowed me to add theelk.
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Post Post #537  (isolation #18)  » Sat Jun 25, 2016 9:45 am

In post 535, FakeGod wrote:Please remove Aetis and Aetel from the club, Zoraster.


DO YOU HATE US?
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Post Post #538  (isolation #19)  » Sat Jun 25, 2016 9:45 am

In post 536, randomidget wrote:Can I join the club then if there is room?


of course.
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Post Post #600  (isolation #20)  » Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:29 am

Number of dragons aren't that important now. Particularly if they're of the cloud variety or ocean if you aren't playing with/against a poke comp. They did have to fight an elder, but that only lasts 2 minutes and I've played in a lot of mismanaged elder dragon games. Often people want to recall after taking elder and that's a good 20 seconds of effective elder dragon time.
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Post Post #651  (isolation #21)  » Thu Jul 07, 2016 7:09 pm

QSS and GA are bought for survivability, but that's because of their abilities, not their resistances.
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Post Post #657  (isolation #22)  » Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:53 am

uh were you supposed to be support?
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Post Post #665  (isolation #23)  » Fri Jul 08, 2016 11:00 am

I still can't imagine that ever being worth it unless you're building AP Ez. Ezreal is super mobile and long range, so is one of the adcs that can use zhonya's active least (most of the time it's just likely to let the enemy close the gap on him).
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Post Post #791  (isolation #24)  » Fri Jul 15, 2016 7:35 pm

I think they created a vicious circle. By not "capping" the chance of getting your secondary role, they created a system where the least picked role (support) was more likely than your primary role to pop. And because of that, even if you wanted to play no more than HALF your games as support, you're forced to not pick support.

Personally, I'd pick Mid, Support if I knew support didn't have more than a 50/50 shot of being my position. But I know I'm probably getting no more than 20% of games as mid that way.

But because of that, they made it even HARDER to find a support. And unless you're truly churning games, having a slightly longer wait time is basically a non-factor. Who cares if I have to wait 10 minutes? vs. 2 when the games last 30-70 minutes (including draft and load)?

I don't think it's because supports have no effect, even at lower levels. A good support is going to be able to climb. But if you're talking about influence % of each role, Supports are less important. You can look at the challenger ladder to see that. You have to go 31 places down to find your first support.
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Post Post #793  (isolation #25)  » Fri Jul 15, 2016 7:38 pm

I don't know how you eliminate the support role. No matter what you do, there's only 3 lanes of gold. Maybe you could make the jungle more fruitful for double jungling?
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Post Post #839  (isolation #26)  » Mon Jul 18, 2016 9:00 pm

At lower elos damage over time tends to confuse people as well.
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Post Post #855  (isolation #27)  » Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:48 am

In post 853, inte wrote:friendly reminder that league of legends is zero sum meaning if you win, someone else loses and vice versa

winning isn't everything


More importantly the system will eventually place you where you'll win roughly only half your games. Unless you play bots.
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Post Post #860  (isolation #28)  » Tue Jul 19, 2016 1:04 pm

So I just won a ranked game where my ADC tristana had 3.1k damage to champions, which was 2.6x lower than either of the supports in the game. Curious, I looked at this guys past games. Despite playing nidalee jungle and graves jungle/top for the previous 5 games, he managed to out damage his support only twice and even in those he did the lowest amount of damage to champions.

But the thing is... he won every single one. And so far as I can tell he wasn't duoing or anything.
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Post Post #862  (isolation #29)  » Tue Jul 19, 2016 2:26 pm

Clearly there is. But 3.1k damage in a game as ADC? It's not like we lane swapped or anything either.
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Post Post #864  (isolation #30)  » Tue Jul 19, 2016 2:59 pm

That'd be my guess.
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Post Post #871  (isolation #31)  » Wed Jul 20, 2016 10:32 am

Yeah. She was kind of ridiculous. When she even has the highest win rate in Diamond, there's probably something wrong.
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Post Post #874  (isolation #32)  » Wed Jul 20, 2016 4:46 pm

oh hey! It's the major rework they like to do in the summer for some reason. http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en ... ame-update

Admittedly, this is at least responsive to problems in the game rather than just sticking a new mordekaiser in for ???? reasons.
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Post Post #875  (isolation #33)  » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:13 pm

So... new champion teased. Heavy dose of toothless:

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Post Post #877  (isolation #34)  » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:23 pm

It's not! They showed it on the EU LCS feed today.
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Post Post #878  (isolation #35)  » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:27 pm

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Post Post #885  (isolation #36)  » Thu Jul 21, 2016 3:22 pm

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Post Post #902  (isolation #37)  » Mon Jul 25, 2016 10:12 pm

In post 900, Panzerjager wrote:Looks awful. Can't wait to ban him every game for the next 4 months to make everyone cry. I like how his gameplay videos highlighted how good other champions are.


You're kind of a wet blanket.
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Post Post #927  (isolation #38)  » Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:37 pm

For champions that I've played more than 5 times, my highest ranked win rate is currently on Teemo. So now two of my champions that myko hates are my highest win rate champions.
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Post Post #930  (isolation #39)  » Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:52 pm

Counterpoint:

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Post Post #932  (isolation #40)  » Thu Jul 28, 2016 1:04 pm

I think there may be one or two games in there of Morg support, but not many.
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Post Post #935  (isolation #41)  » Thu Jul 28, 2016 1:22 pm

Yeah. Exactly. Morg isn't great because she does a lot of amazing burst damage, obviously (though Q>W>Ult Proc 1>Ult Proc 2 is kind of a lot of damage).
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Post Post #938  (isolation #42)  » Thu Jul 28, 2016 1:31 pm

To be fair, I don't actually use that teemo build in ranked games. I think of the 7 games, 6 have been some form of AP and 1 was a bruiserish mix with a frozen heart (but not hurricane). Teemo is kind of wonderful because whatever way you build him you can kinda justify.
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Post Post #939  (isolation #43)  » Thu Jul 28, 2016 1:33 pm

In post 936, mykonian wrote:(as I experience it).


That's because you don't spend a jail sentence of 20 to life in her Q.
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Post Post #956  (isolation #44)  » Tue Aug 02, 2016 3:04 pm

what is your build with tristana? Wits End? Is that a thing?
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Post Post #970  (isolation #45)  » Wed Aug 03, 2016 8:45 am

In post 957, Nosferatu wrote:
In post 956, zoraster wrote:what is your build with tristana? Wits End? Is that a thing?

it's not a thing, I needed attack speed and I needed MR. By the end of it I didn't immediately die to lux or veigar so that was pretty lit.


You're way better off with banshees veil in that situation and something like a rapid fire cannon instead of the next drinker. I think the difference is only 5 MR but with the banshees passive.
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Post Post #993  (isolation #46)  » Fri Aug 05, 2016 10:53 am

I don't think it's usually what you'd choose to do it if you could plan your team comp, but it's probably a reasonable response if you're a late pick.

The difficulty is that assassins like Talon aren't that much about assassinating their lane opponent. They're about roaming and killing other lanes. As a tank, you may have somewhat limited ways to respond effectively to that.
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Post Post #996  (isolation #47)  » Fri Aug 05, 2016 11:16 am

Three options:

1. Follow the roam
2. Roam opposite side
3. Push into turret, frantically ping missing, deny CS, do damage to the turret, hope your other laners don't die.

Zac probably actually can help counterroam given his long distance CC. I don't think his wave clear will be enough to push super effectively.
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Post Post #1025  (isolation #48)  » Sun Aug 07, 2016 4:13 pm

First win of the day
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Post Post #1037  (isolation #49)  » Mon Aug 08, 2016 3:47 pm

chance that these guys aren't boosting accounts?

18-1 bot lane AP kennen: http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=swagvince
19-1 Jungle: http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Dr+MaGiCa
18-1 Sona Support: http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=killermich
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Post Post #1038  (isolation #50)  » Mon Aug 08, 2016 4:29 pm

And here's how close I was to a penta. That damage registering is from the end tick of my ult. The stun is as well. 76 health.... not really upset that graves took the kill or anything, just so close!

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Post Post #1041  (isolation #51)  » Mon Aug 08, 2016 7:00 pm

after playing with them, i'm pretty sure that's thec ase.
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Post Post #1049  (isolation #52)  » Wed Aug 10, 2016 8:31 pm

I was so excited to play Galio top against: Rumble top, Fiddle Jungle, Zilean Mid, Blitz support. All we needed was the Jinx not to get fed. So you can imagine what happened.... Apparently this guy's smurf: http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=jeem
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Post Post #1051  (isolation #53)  » Wed Aug 10, 2016 10:07 pm

I know you're making fun of me, but one of the flashes he did actually made me wonder about that.
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Post Post #1052  (isolation #54)  » Wed Aug 10, 2016 10:17 pm

I just looked at the replay and while it wasn't by any means "scripting" fast it was damn quick even at .25 speed.
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Post Post #1054  (isolation #55)  » Wed Aug 10, 2016 11:09 pm

Oh I'm sure he did. I was Galio, it doesn't exactly take a genius to know what I want to do. But at high silver/low gold the reaction timing was basically instantaneous.
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Post Post #1055  (isolation #56)  » Wed Aug 10, 2016 11:25 pm

No, I've watched it repeatedly and his move is still awesome, whether (and he should have been) expecting me or not. At .25 speed it seems like something I might be able to do. At full speed there is literally no chance.

For the record, the clip isn't anything special. I'm dead even if I get my ult off (Blitz has his knockup on) and it's not like I played it well.

The clip has .25 speed first and then full speed next. Take note of the chompers as well.

And as I said, I don't think he was scripting. But at the time, assuming he was just some Silver Jinx, it did make me wonder.


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Post Post #1064  (isolation #57)  » Thu Aug 11, 2016 9:21 am

Oh! okay! I didn't realize you were spectating. Yeah, I didn't have much interaction with Jinx until that moment and then she was 6-0 so most of it was just "Fed jinx pushing out super rockets for triple/quadra kills."
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Post Post #1067  (isolation #58)  » Thu Aug 11, 2016 9:40 am

Here you go, Dwlee: http://www.replay.gg/ajax/replay_batch/2263646970/na (warning: downloads replay file)
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Post Post #1072  (isolation #59)  » Thu Aug 11, 2016 11:53 am

We know, Dwlee. PZ is saying that he thought he was scripting until he realized he was a Challenger smurf.

When I talked to him after the game, he said he didn't really get it... he got put into Bronze when he went 9-1 in placements, and as far as I can tell that's probably not a lie.

My personal guess is that he acquired the smurf from someone else (the account was in bronze in S5 and S4) that had a really really low MMR.

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=5nonymous

He's literally 51-7 this season, and 39-3 as Jinx/Vayne.

The thing I find out of place is that Jeem has 0 games on Jinx. While they do share Vayne, I'd expect to see at least a smattering of Jinx games. But then again, it's not exactly surprising someone would play different champions at the Silver level than they do at the Challenger.
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Post Post #1082  (isolation #60)  » Thu Aug 11, 2016 7:02 pm

Zorasterful joined the room.
Hiplop joined the room.
I WORK ALONE joined the room.
mykonian joined the room.
Yuyuwindy joined the room.
Glork joined the room.
I WORK ALONE earned an S- on LeBlanc!
You have earned a key fragment. These are used to forge keys which open chests.
mykonian MS: god that nasus
Zorasterful MS: take a deep breath, nasus
Glork MS: so angry :(
Glork MS: its a game <3
I WORK ALONE: i wanted to play zed but you banned it T_T
FeralFennec [TAX]: **** off
Zorasterful MS: if it's not fun anymore, time to take a break
FeralFennec [TAX]: It has literally never been fun.
Lord Mavericks left the room.
Xaeduz left the room.
CritDoge [TAX]: time for that lb rework
Glork MS: listen to yourself lol
I WORK ALONE: yea i agree
I WORK ALONE: if you are having a bad day
Glork MS: why waste your life getting angry
Glork MS: at a game?
FeralFennec [TAX]: But if I want to spend time with my boyfriend, I have to play this stupid ******* game
I WORK ALONE: stop playing today and start fresh tomorrow
I WORK ALONE: it happens to everyone
FeralFennec [TAX]: **** off
mykonian left the room.
Glork MS: then maybe
Zorasterful MS: find a better boyfriend
Glork MS: if you hae to play to spend time with your bf
Glork MS: you need to rethink yoru relationship
Glork MS: :/
FeralFennec [TAX]: I am aware.
I WORK ALONE: dont let him force you what u wanna do
FeralFennec [TAX]: He refuses to play anything that is not a team-based PvP game
FeralFennec [TAX]: Which I ******* despise
FeralFennec [TAX]: So
I WORK ALONE: idk i tell my g/f to cook for me lmao
FeralFennec [TAX]: It's Overwatch or League or Evolve or whatever.
FeralFennec [TAX]: All of which I hate.
Zorasterful MS: but i mean... you shouldn't have to play games to spend time with him. he should make time for you too
FeralFennec [TAX]: *shrug*
I WORK ALONE: u know if u hate it dont play it
FeralFennec [TAX]: That's what he likes.,
I WORK ALONE: find another b/f
Zorasterful MS: what do you like though?
I WORK ALONE: smh
FeralFennec [TAX]: Single-player/co-op games?
FeralFennec [TAX]: XD
I WORK ALONE: then go play it
Glork MS: i like co-op games
I WORK ALONE: good thing my g/f is a diamond and im a gold
FeralFennec [TAX]: Yeah, well.
Hiplop MS: Yea, shouldnt he compromise and play games you enjoy?
I WORK ALONE: its the other way round
I WORK ALONE: gg
FeralFennec [TAX]: We do what we must.
Glork MS: Because we can.
I WORK ALONE left the room.
Glork MS: For the good of all of us.
Glork MS: Except the ones who are dead.
FeralFennec [TAX]: XD
Glork MS: anyway
Glork MS: sorry you had a rough game
Glork MS: sincerely
Glork MS: gl
FeralFennec [TAX]: It happens.
Glork left the room.
FeralFennec [TAX]: Apologies for raging.
Zorasterful MS: make him play your stuff too. or realize you don't have to share all the same hobbies
FeralFennec [TAX]: But I despise this game.
Zorasterful MS: anyway good game
Hiplop MS: i reported and honoured you
Hiplop MS: awkward
FeralFennec [TAX]: XD
CritDoge [TAX]: wow
CritDoge [TAX]: that's awkward.
CritDoge [TAX]: also thanks for that discussion in postgame lobby
Hiplop MS: lol np
CritDoge [TAX]: really lifts my spirits
CritDoge [TAX]: you know
FeralFennec [TAX]: Oh shush
Zorasterful MS: well. take some time for your partner's interests
Hiplop MS: you should play a coop game with her!
FeralFennec [TAX]: I'm not leaving you over games.
Zorasterful MS: it'll make things happier.
CritDoge [TAX]: We have literally only been playing for two days.
Zorasterful MS: she's level 30?
CritDoge [TAX]: no I meant
FeralFennec [TAX]: yes, but before that we were playing Evolve
CritDoge [TAX]: like
FeralFennec [TAX]: And before that Overwatch
CritDoge [TAX]: we were doing other stuff before then
FeralFennec [TAX]: and before that league again
FeralFennec [TAX]: We played borderlands 2 for literally 2 hours like a month ago
FeralFennec [TAX]: And other than that have not played anything not-pvp in like 2 months
Hiplop MS: huh
Hiplop MS: why dont you like playing those games with FeralFennec, critdoge?
FeralFennec [TAX]: This has just become marriage counseling. XD
CritDoge [TAX]: are my relationship therapist now
Zorasterful MS: It helps to have a third party sometimes.
Hiplop MS: maybe a game that makes someone that angry isnt a good one to play as a couple :) :) :)
Zorasterful MS: have a good day, y'all

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Post Post #1086  (isolation #61)  » Thu Aug 11, 2016 9:29 pm

In post 1084, Psyche wrote:am i supposed to read that


I expect a book report.
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Post Post #1102  (isolation #62)  » Fri Aug 12, 2016 2:44 pm

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Post Post #1105  (isolation #63)  » Fri Aug 12, 2016 5:06 pm

Absolutely.
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Post Post #1132  (isolation #64)  » Sat Aug 13, 2016 7:38 pm

I try to treat morde as "that guy I will always choose to either kite or run away from unless he's CCed to hell."
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Post Post #1135  (isolation #65)  » Sat Aug 13, 2016 7:58 pm

I don't really understand your point, ank? A silver 1 playing with a few gold 2s/1s isn't that unusual, surely?
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Post Post #1156  (isolation #66)  » Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:34 pm

I think it's a Tyler1 thing?
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Post Post #1158  (isolation #67)  » Wed Aug 17, 2016 11:54 pm

Holy cow. How?
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Post Post #1184  (isolation #68)  » Tue Aug 23, 2016 10:42 pm

I'm okay with power creep.
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Post Post #1198  (isolation #69)  » Fri Aug 26, 2016 9:18 am

Psyche enjoyed something.

So did I.
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Post Post #1202  (isolation #70)  » Fri Aug 26, 2016 5:45 pm

Level 6 Mastery Teemo. Fear me.
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Post Post #1205  (isolation #71)  » Fri Aug 26, 2016 6:01 pm

depends on the situation and what you've built. Split pushing is good. Objective control with shrooms is also good. If you've gone the Magic Attack Speed build, you're probably going to be mostly an auxiliary ADC. If you've gone the Mallet build, you probably want to try split pushing and isolating enemies.
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Post Post #1207  (isolation #72)  » Fri Aug 26, 2016 6:03 pm

what do you do with teemo post laning?
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Post Post #1256  (isolation #73)  » Mon Aug 29, 2016 9:01 am

are you arguing you shouldn't have that chat restriction? because you should have
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Post Post #1261  (isolation #74)  » Mon Aug 29, 2016 10:45 am

In post 1258, inte wrote:nope, not arguing anything. just thinking about the message riot is trying to send when they chat restrict people. i think its a humorous consequence for being an asshat to make games demonstrably worse for 10 more games.

specifically what did you think i said required a chat restriction? is being annoying in a game where the mute function is so readily available and easy to use a chat restrict/bannable offense? is not using chat or pings at all a chat restrict/bannable offense too?



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Post Post #1266  (isolation #75)  » Mon Aug 29, 2016 11:34 am

In post 1263, inte wrote:
In post 1261, zoraster wrote:
In post 1258, inte wrote:nope, not arguing anything. just thinking about the message riot is trying to send when they chat restrict people. i think its a humorous consequence for being an asshat to make games demonstrably worse for 10 more games.

specifically what did you think i said required a chat restriction? is being annoying in a game where the mute function is so readily available and easy to use a chat restrict/bannable offense? is not using chat or pings at all a chat restrict/bannable offense too?



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sure. that was a bad thing to say

but riots charging $5 for a fucking palette swap golden zac skin

In post 1262, Accountant wrote:
i don't start things with ppl lol. if u get irrationally angry when someone all chats "hehe xd" then it sounds like a u problem

Its the attitude of "im gonna do this even tho I know it pisses people off, BECAUSE I know it pisses people off"


but its an online video game where you play with someone for ~40 minutes and then never see them again? how does it ACTUALLY affect you other than being mildly annoyed by some text you're reading


1. That definitely doesn't justify it. At all. Not only is it offensive and wrong to say, it's stupid as hell because no one is forcing you to spend RP on a skin. It's literally cosmetic.

2. It affects my enjoyment of the game. I play to have fun. I have far less fun when people like you are in my game. You deserve to be shut up in the game until you can either (a) figure out why being a jerk should cause you to be punished or (b) accept that even if you don't agree you should still not spew your jerkiness.
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Post Post #1279  (isolation #76)  » Mon Aug 29, 2016 5:29 pm

All right. Fourth time into the promotion breach. I'm on a 6 game promo losing streak in the first three (obviously I've won a lot between the promos to get back into the promos, but the actual promotion games have been less than great).
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Post Post #1284  (isolation #77)  » Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:36 pm

All I needed was a Galio game to get end my 7 game promos losing streak.
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Post Post #1286  (isolation #78)  » Mon Aug 29, 2016 11:01 pm

elaborate.
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Post Post #1311  (isolation #79)  » Wed Aug 31, 2016 8:57 am

I think Teemo is just fine against melee champions. What he struggles with are champions that deal damage and have gap closers and stuns. Renekton, Pantheon (god pantheon sucks), Riven, Irelia, Yasuo (no stun but still) are all pretty tough for Teemo to deal with.

But melee champions like Tryndamere, Akali, Xin Zhao, Garen, Darius, Shen (who has a gap closer and CC but pretty easy to deal with), Nasus are all pretty easy.
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Post Post #1312  (isolation #80)  » Wed Aug 31, 2016 8:58 am

Apparently Yasuo is having his tank build nerfed by only applying armor penetration from his ult on critical hits.
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Post Post #1314  (isolation #81)  » Wed Aug 31, 2016 9:30 am

Yeah she does. But you can bully her a lot until then as she has basically nothing. And somewhat mitigating is you can require her to dash twice in order to proc her Q (since it requires an AA), at which point you might be able to get out of danger.
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Post Post #1316  (isolation #82)  » Wed Aug 31, 2016 12:22 pm

I mean, there's a reason why Teemo has a pretty high win rate against Shen. You may be right, but landing that trade is hard against range. Harassing shen with Teemo is easy.
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Post Post #1325  (isolation #83)  » Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:07 pm

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Post Post #1340  (isolation #84)  » Wed Aug 31, 2016 10:15 pm

In post 1338, Nosferatu wrote:bronzefag


Please don't use this language.
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Post Post #1352  (isolation #85)  » Thu Sep 01, 2016 9:04 am

Is it? I don't find it to be. And I love Akali.
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Post Post #1362  (isolation #86)  » Thu Sep 01, 2016 9:02 pm

S+ Mundo Mid game in ranked. I must be amazzzing
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Post Post #1364  (isolation #87)  » Thu Sep 01, 2016 9:13 pm

Does thornmail's damage work even on magic damage from basic attacks? For example, TF's enhanced Autos, Teemo's, etc. It sounds like it should from the tooltip, but that seems wrong.
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Post Post #1433  (isolation #88)  » Mon Sep 05, 2016 9:15 am

In post 1430, Psyche wrote:i picked a poke midlaner (ziggs) into a tanky hard engage comp (braum, amumu, ekko, katarina, cait) silly me
but frankly i'm unsure what i should have picked instead
should i have taken an midlane adc like corki with repositioning skills so that i'd be more able to kill tanks and selfpeel from engages?
should i have taken lissandra or sol and used my aoe cc/invulnerability to diminish their engage but giving up the range/dps necessary to actually kill anyone?
would karthus's raw damage and soft-cc from his w/rylais been the best choice?
woe is me woe is me
azir probably would have done a decent job with his own dps, repositioning and peel-ult but i don't want to bother learning him especially in the state he's in now


Morgana Mid is a potential solution to this. She has surprising survivability as the game goes on because she naturally wants to go Rod of Ages, Zhonyas, and Abyssal in some order (the last is optional normally but required against that team comp). She offers just a heck of a lot of utility. Sure, you aren't likely to solo carry the game against that comp depending on how Amumu and Ekko are itemizing, but you can do really well and enable the rest of your team to do a lot. Just remember in lane that you can't use your Q aggressively: it needs to be saved for after she jumps.

Galio mid is also a potential answer against that comp because only Cait would do damage to you.
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Post Post #1435  (isolation #89)  » Mon Sep 05, 2016 9:18 am

Yeah. Abyssal on Ziggs is unfortunate.
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Post Post #1436  (isolation #90)  » Mon Sep 05, 2016 10:06 am

also, you being sarcastic about morg and galio? It's not like they're particularly weird choices. Well, galio is, but against almost all AP it's a choice that makes sense.
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Post Post #1438  (isolation #91)  » Mon Sep 05, 2016 10:29 am

that's a good point.
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Post Post #1455  (isolation #92)  » Wed Sep 07, 2016 12:24 pm

graves is barely an ADC
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Post Post #1457  (isolation #93)  » Wed Sep 07, 2016 12:27 pm

I mean he's primarily played Jungle with a minority Top.
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Post Post #1458  (isolation #94)  » Wed Sep 07, 2016 12:28 pm

In post 1456, Maestro wrote:
In post 1455, zoraster wrote:graves is barely an ADC


EDIT2: I guess he's an AD caster now? He still mostly goes botlane, with a support, in an AD role. That's what I would categorize as an ADC, but maybe I'm wrong.


No he doesn't. He's barely played bot lane now.
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Post Post #1462  (isolation #95)  » Wed Sep 07, 2016 2:52 pm

So Riot couldn't just wait one more patch to release a reworked champion? I'm excited for New Yorick and everything, but why introduce a newish champion that you have zero chances to adjust before the most important tournament? At least this time it's not 2 or 3 potential must ban champions coming down the line.
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Post Post #1467  (isolation #96)  » Wed Sep 07, 2016 4:10 pm

This is the tournament patch. There will likely be more to come, but this is the one that'll be used. But someone said that Yorick will be disabled for Worlds.
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Post Post #1469  (isolation #97)  » Wed Sep 07, 2016 4:26 pm

my guess is tough luck? Although the chance of old yorick making an appearance is close to zero.
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Post Post #1482  (isolation #98)  » Thu Sep 08, 2016 1:28 pm

You're forgetting 20% Crit chance as well. The mana regen is a very minor consideration.
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Post Post #1485  (isolation #99)  » Thu Sep 08, 2016 1:38 pm

I'd go something other than Jhin then.
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Post Post #1501  (isolation #100)  » Fri Sep 09, 2016 9:53 am

i don't think anyone is saying to skip it, but it's often pushed a lot longer now than it used to be. Although Greaves got buffed since that patch where 80% of people went Swifties.
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Post Post #1511  (isolation #101)  » Fri Sep 09, 2016 11:35 am

Soraka has kind of a low win rate in bronze, surprisingly. 48.81% compared to Gold at 52.47% and Diamond's 50.94% (http://www.bestbans.com/tier/bronze)
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Post Post #1513  (isolation #102)  » Fri Sep 09, 2016 11:38 am

I think the biggest thing is you need to be better to get out of Bronze. The champion might make a difference on the margins, but find a champion, any champion within reason, play it a ton, get good at it, and you'll be out of bronze faster than if you yo-yo between champions you think are bringing you to the promise land.
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Post Post #1518  (isolation #103)  » Fri Sep 09, 2016 6:18 pm

oh. i guess i didn't really read all of that. I understand selling boots 2 if you have 6 slots filled, though i don't think it necessarily makes sense to do so anymore, but i don't think it's worth it to do before that point. 1100 gold for 35 attack speed is pretty damn good even without the move speed. That's less than a zeal for over twice the AS. The finished items don't necessarily give more AS anyway: Rapid Firecannon only gives 30.
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Post Post #1519  (isolation #104)  » Fri Sep 09, 2016 6:22 pm

Why is it that of the zeal items the one that adds the least AS is called Rapid Fire?
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Post Post #1540  (isolation #105)  » Tue Sep 13, 2016 11:21 am

Neither support was particularly interested in wards, I guess. The Leona didn't even bother buy some pinks.

In fact, in a game that lasted 57 minutes the only person to buy a single pink ward is Soraka.
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Post Post #1552  (isolation #106)  » Wed Sep 14, 2016 11:54 am

I miss these wards all the time. Thought others might find it a useful video:

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Post Post #1566  (isolation #107)  » Thu Sep 15, 2016 11:03 pm

Won my gold promos. Last year did Gold with Support and a little ADC. This year like 80% mid.

Spoiler: Gratuitous Promo Screen Cap
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Post Post #1581  (isolation #108)  » Mon Sep 19, 2016 9:49 pm

currently 3/3 with Sona mid in ranked on my other account. Well, 3/3, 2 dodges and a purposeful sona ban. Got promoted.
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Post Post #1605  (isolation #109)  » Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:08 am

Board games, particularly new board games, are probably as popular now as they've ever been if not more so. $75 is a high price point, but for the game provided doesn't seem unreasonable.

Games designed on some source material are dicey, but there are great examples out there. For example, Battlestar Gallactica is arguably the best game of its genre I've played.
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Post Post #1607  (isolation #110)  » Tue Sep 20, 2016 12:30 pm

I feel like board game groups are one of the most popular things on meetup. now whether you like board games enough to play with strangers is another question, but it's usually available (maybe not for ray given he's in japan)
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Post Post #1611  (isolation #111)  » Tue Sep 20, 2016 7:51 pm

I love the jinx voiceover.
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Post Post #1644  (isolation #112)  » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:28 pm

World Championship Pick Em

You have only about a day to make your picks! do them today!
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Post Post #1655  (isolation #113)  » Thu Sep 29, 2016 10:29 am

also, kalista's passive on W can only proc once per 10 seconds so additional attack speed is worthless for that purpose and there's no benefit from having two things that apply max health % damage unless it's the most effective way to attack.

The bad thing is that Kalista does want to build attack speed for her rend and jumpy jumpy and there aren't great alternatives even though BOTRK isn't great against non-tanks. What do you think Kalista's build order should be here, Zito? I think Kalista is stuck in a pretty bad place build-wise right now.
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Post Post #1659  (isolation #114)  » Thu Sep 29, 2016 11:21 am

does PD damage reduction proc on hurricane bolts?
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Post Post #1666  (isolation #115)  » Wed Oct 05, 2016 9:06 am

Ivern is available. I just love his interactions:



"Lord Grompulous Kevin Ribbitton of Croaksworth. I am at your service, my liege."
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Post Post #1671  (isolation #116)  » Wed Oct 05, 2016 10:15 am

In post 1668, Nosferatu wrote:Ivern seems ridiculously OP.

Super jg clear, mad invades, root, daisy does more damage than tibbers + knockups, has a shield

Is it not as good in practice as it seems?


I don't know how powerful he'll be but consider:

1. Daisy doesn't stun immediately like Tibbers, which is a big reason Tibbers is awesome.
2. Daisy doesn't necessarily do more damage: in fact practically speaking it's probably not close, Tibbers does more. Tibbers does initial damage of 150/275/400 + 65% AP. Daisy does none. Tibbers himself does less damage than Daisy, but that's not where a lot of Tibbers power comes from. The knockup of Daisy seems good though.
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Post Post #1681  (isolation #117)  » Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:40 pm

Yeah... that's not cool
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Post Post #1683  (isolation #118)  » Thu Oct 06, 2016 3:31 pm

I have PBE access. I still don't want what doom bots do to be spoiled.
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Post Post #1689  (isolation #119)  » Thu Oct 06, 2016 7:57 pm

it's not really the video. it was the description.
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Post Post #1699  (isolation #120)  » Fri Oct 07, 2016 3:53 pm

i'm not sure new champs are the same because they're no mystery to them. Doom bots seems to be built with twists in mind.
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Post Post #1708  (isolation #121)  » Sun Oct 09, 2016 5:00 pm

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Post Post #1714  (isolation #122)  » Mon Oct 10, 2016 11:05 am

With something as weird as his abilities are, I'm glad they started him out really underpowered. They'll start buffing him soon enough, but the real danger is that because he's so different his win rate will be even lower than it'll end up normalizing at than ordinarily happens.
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Post Post #1718  (isolation #123)  » Mon Oct 10, 2016 12:35 pm

In post 1717, KaleiÐoscøpe wrote:He kinda deels like the planned Yorick rework they scrapped and made a new champion out of


I disagree. Thematically he's one of the strongest champions released, I think.
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Post Post #1720  (isolation #124)  » Mon Oct 10, 2016 1:18 pm

I think a weird champ like Ivern that fundamentally changes the jungle state is worth starting very careful on in terms of power.
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Post Post #1722  (isolation #125)  » Mon Oct 10, 2016 1:34 pm

Daisy needs to have some damage up front. I'm not entirely sure what daisy's purpose in the kit is supposed to be, honestly. Tank turrets? The CC is nice but too unreliable to really be ult worthy.
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Post Post #1726  (isolation #126)  » Mon Oct 10, 2016 6:58 pm

I played a ranked game with him on my team. At first it was kind of awesome as I got so many buffs. I even got a red buff as morgana mid. But he seemed to be totally ineffective later in the game despite being super fed.
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Post Post #1741  (isolation #127)  » Thu Oct 13, 2016 11:31 am

This is your new avatar, Panzer:

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Post Post #1750  (isolation #128)  » Sat Oct 15, 2016 1:30 pm

Man. I was just flamed a lot for going Morgana Top in a game we won handily and I didn't feed the enemy Riven. I even switched from Teemo to appease them (even though that's a winning lane for Teemo).

At least we won and I got promoted, but it's like people are totally oblivious to the strengths of solo-lane morgana even though she's quite a bit better than support morgana.
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Post Post #1752  (isolation #129)  » Sat Oct 15, 2016 1:43 pm

At the very least "perfectly fine to play, quit complaining"
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Post Post #1754  (isolation #130)  » Sat Oct 15, 2016 1:51 pm

Not really. Just a second of thinking about it should make it reach the level of "pay attention to your own stuff": it's a champion played fine in the mid, it has a ton of team fight helpful CC, has a supportive black shield, and can push waves over and over again. I don't necessarily expect my teammates to know that Morgana is deceptively tanky, but it's not like that should mean flaming.

Except for super assassiny champions, I think most mid laners can go top without causing too much fuss in soloqueue.
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Post Post #1774  (isolation #131)  » Sun Oct 16, 2016 9:25 am

In post 1764, Accountant wrote:I won't comment on that, because I think intentionally dodging games because you didn't like your team is unethical.


Dodging is both ethical and expected. If you're not using it in ranked, you're a fool.

Riot allows for it too. Why else have your first dodge of the day only worth 3 LP? At that level there's little reason not to dodge if you think there's a less than even chance you'll win (depending on what your LP gains/losses are for wins and losses, the exact percent where it's the right call will change).
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Post Post #1776  (isolation #132)  » Sun Oct 16, 2016 9:28 am

Right now my wins give me significantly more LP than my losses so the calculation means I dodge a bit less than I did when I was in "elo hell" early Season 5. But dodging, particularly in Bronze, was practically necessary when I was gaining 10 LP for wins and losing 24 LP for losses.

Also I find less need to dodge with new champ select. People are a lot less likely to fight and lock in a troll champ (support teemo, for example).
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Post Post #1778  (isolation #133)  » Sun Oct 16, 2016 9:46 am

Ani, why did you take Strength of Ages on Morgana support in your last game? Just a mistake?
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Post Post #1781  (isolation #134)  » Sun Oct 16, 2016 12:13 pm

In post 1779, Panzerjager wrote:
In post 1774, zoraster wrote:
In post 1764, Accountant wrote:I won't comment on that, because I think intentionally dodging games because you didn't like your team is unethical.


Dodging is both ethical and expected. If you're not using it in ranked, you're a fool.

Riot allows for it too. Why else have your first dodge of the day only worth 3 LP? At that level there's little reason not to dodge if you think there's a less than even chance you'll win (depending on what your LP gains/losses are for wins and losses, the exact percent where it's the right call will change).


This is the opinion of a man with no bushido and mucho miedo


Screw bushido. I'm a BAMF Ninja.
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Post Post #1785  (isolation #135)  » Sun Oct 16, 2016 4:26 pm

You always hate it when I link the scrub article. Do you need me to link the scrub article again?
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Post Post #1789  (isolation #136)  » Sun Oct 16, 2016 4:57 pm

That's the one!
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Post Post #1825  (isolation #137)  » Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:28 am

In post 1824, inte wrote:ok, is the objective of when ur playing league of legends to accumulate lp, or to play a video game?

u will absolutely end up wherever ur skill lies, regardless of what methods you use. grinding games and playing odds is not fun guys, just go play poker if u want a math rush

dodging is really dumb



well, if you systematically use dodging well you'll end up at a higher LP and MMR. So "yes" in the sense that you'll end up where you "belong." But no, that doesn't mean you'll end up the same place as if you didn't dodge.
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Post Post #1829  (isolation #138)  » Mon Oct 17, 2016 1:13 pm

In post 1827, inte wrote:
In post 1825, zoraster wrote:
In post 1824, inte wrote:ok, is the objective of when ur playing league of legends to accumulate lp, or to play a video game?

u will absolutely end up wherever ur skill lies, regardless of what methods you use. grinding games and playing odds is not fun guys, just go play poker if u want a math rush

dodging is really dumb



well, if you systematically use dodging well you'll end up at a higher LP and MMR. So "yes" in the sense that you'll end up where you "belong." But no, that doesn't mean you'll end up the same place as if you didn't dodge.


lets say gaming the system and dodging when u think ur gonna lose with ur team nets you a 5% higher mmr on average

the point i'm trying to make is that for everyone else who don't champ select dodge will be approximately 5% better than you (if they don't also champ dodge) and you will lose 5% more games against people that didn't dodge a game

i mean, if you want to get into gold for rewards or w/e, then power to u cuz thats actually a tangible benefit, but i really think you should focus on your csing, game sense, communication, lane control because that would actually make you 5% better


Some people win more games through being better than their opponents with mechanical skill. Some through map awareness. Some through communication. Why can't champion select and dodging be part of that equation too? If I can avoid the worst matchups that's PART of the skill of ranking up. The ONLY thing that matters for ranked in the end is your ability to win games. If I win more games by dodging games I believe I have a 33% or less chance of winning from champ select, I've increased my ability to win regardless of other factors like mechanical skill.

As for csing and what not, I don't see why this is mutually exclusive to that.
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Post Post #1834  (isolation #139)  » Mon Oct 17, 2016 2:39 pm

Obviously there's a difference between someone having another person to play or use a cheating program. Dodging is built into the system. There's a reason you get -3 LP after your first dodge and -10 LP after your second. It's expected that sometimes you're going to need to dodge.
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Post Post #1835  (isolation #140)  » Mon Oct 17, 2016 2:42 pm

Look, there's clearly a limit to how much dodging can get you. You're not going to get from Gold to Diamond by dodging. But you CAN avoid a fair number of frustrating, predictable losses that can help both in climbing a bit further and in climbing a bit faster. The way to improve entire tiers is to improve in-game play. No one disputes that. But there's little reason not to avail yourself of dodging when it can give clear benefits.
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Post Post #1838  (isolation #141)  » Mon Oct 17, 2016 2:56 pm

I'd love to get rid of duos+ but I don't think dodging is against the spirit of the game. Regardless, if it were removed as an incentivized thing, obviously I wouldn't do it anymore.
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Post Post #1865  (isolation #142)  » Tue Oct 18, 2016 8:40 am

I am glad to see you banned for that.

[14:26] JasonWazza (Thresh): hey swain
[14:33] JasonWazza (Thresh): uninstall league for me
[14:58] JasonWazza (Thresh): lol
[15:05] JasonWazza (Thresh): you have same brain issues to work on

[33:44] JasonWazza (Thresh): YOU FUCKED US
[33:52] JasonWazza (Thresh): DON'T PRETEND WE CAN CARRY YOUR FAT ASS

[9:46] JasonWazza (Poppy): wow the feeding useless fizz is amazing


[38:55] JasonWazza (Skarner): you guys are fucking worthless

Your excuses ("everyone does it") are unconvincing.
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Post Post #1868  (isolation #143)  » Tue Oct 18, 2016 8:48 am

No. But it's not unconvincing because "everyone does it" is false (although I think that's highly suspect; people say that about NA as well when they're banned). It's unconvincing because it shouldn't be done and it should result in an action regardless of your theory that it's the standard. The standard should be cleaned up.
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Post Post #1870  (isolation #144)  » Tue Oct 18, 2016 8:54 am

Mostly use rockets.
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Post Post #1903  (isolation #145)  » Thu Oct 20, 2016 3:51 pm

Anyone who hasn't played doom bots yet want to play with me?
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Post Post #1923  (isolation #146)  » Tue Oct 25, 2016 10:00 am

How about Plat!
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Post Post #1925  (isolation #147)  » Tue Oct 25, 2016 10:07 am

10 games of placements means you'll probably get at least 3 with boosters this time of year.
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Post Post #1927  (isolation #148)  » Tue Oct 25, 2016 11:58 am

fixed for you, hope you don't mind.
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Post Post #1928  (isolation #149)  » Tue Oct 25, 2016 11:59 am

those predictions were pretty awesome.
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Post Post #1931  (isolation #150)  » Tue Oct 25, 2016 1:01 pm

i think the clip is a good length. People's clips are often way too long. Short and sweet, particularly because it really highlights his good prediction skills and that doesn't take much setup. The music could be pulled back a bit though.
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Post Post #1933  (isolation #151)  » Tue Oct 25, 2016 1:10 pm

Most of them I could tell, but the ori clip at 49 was really confusing.
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Post Post #1940  (isolation #152)  » Wed Oct 26, 2016 2:38 pm

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Post Post #1957  (isolation #153)  » Thu Oct 27, 2016 5:00 pm

only one level 7? what is this, amateur hour?
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Post Post #1959  (isolation #154)  » Thu Oct 27, 2016 5:07 pm

doesn't load for me.
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Post Post #1964  (isolation #155)  » Thu Oct 27, 2016 5:57 pm

I had a 17/4 Jinx and got an A. Not even an A+
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Post Post #1979  (isolation #156)  » Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:01 am

In post 1977, pickemgenius wrote:whoa.

i fucking clean 4-6'd last years placements in the last few weeks for gold.

10/10 would have plat/diamond players in placements


was that on a clean account (i.e. one that hadn't been placed in a season before)? Because your previous rank plays a pretty big part in placements.
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Post Post #1984  (isolation #157)  » Tue Nov 01, 2016 9:11 am

more likely, technically.
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Post Post #2002  (isolation #158)  » Thu Nov 03, 2016 12:22 pm

MF support shouldn't ever be picked before a zyra comes out.
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Post Post #2004  (isolation #159)  » Thu Nov 03, 2016 1:47 pm

Well, that too. But let's just say there's a universe where it can be played.
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Post Post #2016  (isolation #160)  » Wed Nov 09, 2016 12:39 pm

Update your end rank now.

I will be moving and locking last season's rank on the spreadsheet.
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Post Post #2018  (isolation #161)  » Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:29 pm

uh. well. 3 in your inventory?
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Post Post #2031  (isolation #162)  » Thu Nov 10, 2016 12:44 pm

S6 Ranks are locked. Let me know if you need yours edited in.
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Post Post #2032  (isolation #163)  » Thu Nov 10, 2016 12:46 pm

It appears our "Most Improved Player" goes to Dwlee who went from Silver IV last year to Platinum I this year.

Honorable mention goes to Ankamius, who was Silver III last year and is now Platinum IV
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Post Post #2054  (isolation #164)  » Fri Nov 11, 2016 12:23 am

is youmus still good on MF given the lack of Attack speed?
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Post Post #2117  (isolation #165)  » Thu Nov 17, 2016 1:14 am

In post 2115, JasonWazza wrote:He doesn't play jungle, he plays support, and starts by putting the enemy jungler behind, then goes bot lane and supports the carry.


From what I understand he doesn't ever actually support the lane. He just marks himself as support, counter jungles and does singed things while leaving his ADC out to dry. The problem isn't that he's singed support. It's that he's not supporting.
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Post Post #2136  (isolation #166)  » Thu Nov 17, 2016 4:05 pm

Very Kingsman.
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Post Post #2183  (isolation #167)  » Tue Nov 29, 2016 9:47 pm

what exactly do you hope to play against as an ADC if you think assassins, tanks and fighters are ganging up on you?
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Post Post #2196  (isolation #168)  » Thu Dec 01, 2016 10:03 pm

ADCs tend to do well at the very top of the ladder. Last I checked they comprise a heavy portion of challengers, which indicates that it's a place where the skill differential matters.

That said, that's them and we're us.
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Post Post #2198  (isolation #169)  » Thu Dec 01, 2016 10:09 pm

he doesn't have a single thing that scales with AP.
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Post Post #2201  (isolation #170)  » Fri Dec 02, 2016 12:59 am

Sure? I don't see that as contradicting my point, which is that ADC is a high skill position so long as you view skill as your ability to make the most positive impact on your team's chances for success AS COMPARED to the replacement level player you're compared to.

You can say that "oh, people at high levels help their ADC more" and I agree. But if challenger games feature this, they do so on BOTH sides of the game. Which still leaves you in a position where the best players will rise.
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Post Post #2205  (isolation #171)  » Fri Dec 02, 2016 12:31 pm

I frame skill as the ability to consistently win. Essentially skill at time X is equivalent to what your MMR would be if you played like you are at Time X for a large number of games.

Obviously there are some wrinkles such as duo queuing and such (is the ability to win more with someone you have a synergy with equivalent to being more skillful?) but this is the basic premise.

All other types of skills that go into winning more: mechanical ability, knowledge of matchups, map awareness, teamplay, vision control, etc. are part of that "skillfulness"
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Post Post #2208  (isolation #172)  » Fri Dec 02, 2016 5:03 pm

In other news, Twitch is the best ban in every single MMR according to best bans.
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Post Post #2214  (isolation #173)  » Sat Dec 03, 2016 10:50 am

My goal with ranked is to win, so I'm not banning a 40% win rate champion.

And frankly I don't see why Nidalee is considered unfun to play against.
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Post Post #2222  (isolation #174)  » Sat Dec 03, 2016 6:05 pm

If you surrendered every single game at 20 minutes, you've spent 42 and a half days playing league of legends. At least.
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Post Post #2241  (isolation #175)  » Sun Dec 04, 2016 6:34 pm

I queued mid/top. Saw top was first pick and support second. So I assumed I was mid.

And that's how I ended up Jungle Ziggs.
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Post Post #2264  (isolation #176)  » Wed Dec 07, 2016 11:51 am

my main gripe is that the sound for it being your pick or time running down is lessened.
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Post Post #2301  (isolation #177)  » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:36 am

There's still a fair bit of toxicity out there, but I think it's actually noticeably different than it was 2-3 years ago in a good way.

Also a lot of the toxic people right now are doing their placements/early climb in ranked.
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Post Post #2303  (isolation #178)  » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:50 am

Interesting. Could also be something about playing at a Gold level now vs. my previous low silver level vs. your platinum level. Or we could just have different opinions.
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Post Post #2306  (isolation #179)  » Tue Dec 13, 2016 12:10 pm

In post 2304, Papa Zito wrote:We just have more advanced toxicity now. Riot's done a great job implementing new technologies that let you be an asshole without even having to type. Now you can spam ping question marks on your ally's corpse! Neat! Flash your mastery icon at your opponents when they screw up! Amazing! But if these aren't enough you can always fall back on the tried-and-true "gg ez".

I hate League's community. I don't care what rewards they offer for ranked play, it's not worth it to deal with a bunch of obnoxious children.


I mean, all those things replacing the toxicity of yesteryear seems like an overall victory.
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Post Post #2330  (isolation #180)  » Wed Dec 14, 2016 5:31 pm

you might want to expand on that
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Post Post #2340  (isolation #181)  » Thu Dec 15, 2016 2:01 pm

I have an urf ward skin that's helpful to me in game and never been tempted to use another.
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Post Post #2344  (isolation #182)  » Thu Dec 15, 2016 3:03 pm

yeah some riot guy gave that to my smurf, which i use on that account. It's cool, but doesn't offer the same (admittedly small) in-game advantages.
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Post Post #2346  (isolation #183)  » Thu Dec 15, 2016 4:13 pm

It makes a very distinct, very easy to hear sound when it goes away. It's not confused with other game noises.
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Post Post #2354  (isolation #184)  » Mon Dec 19, 2016 11:09 pm

In post 2353, Psyche wrote:you can call it a 6v5 but does zilean really count as a full 1 without his revive


what? zilean is the bomb.
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Post Post #2359  (isolation #185)  » Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:58 am

In post 2357, Papa Zito wrote:
In post 2354, zoraster wrote:
In post 2353, Psyche wrote:you can call it a 6v5 but does zilean really count as a full 1 without his revive


what? zilean is the bomb.

oh ho ho


I'm surprised I didn't get a Psyche sigh in response to that.
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Post Post #2387  (isolation #186)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:27 pm

Just a reminder to put in your rank(s) into the spreadsheet when you're placed.
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Post Post #2396  (isolation #187)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:55 am

How about a "these guys so tanky. Why can he just stand under my tower and take shots like that? Help! Help!" meta?
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Post Post #2417  (isolation #188)  » Tue Jan 17, 2017 1:03 pm

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Post Post #2459  (isolation #189)  » Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:22 am

You don't give up a ton to go AP Sona, assuming you're still taking Windspeaker's. And there's no point of going Sona if you don't take Windspeaker's.
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Post Post #2485  (isolation #190)  » Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:00 am

In post 2483, Maestro wrote:
In post 2481, Nosferatu wrote:I'd rather wait a 10min queue time than get autofilled into a 40min game in a role I didn't want in the first place.

If Autofill is activated, it means more people disagree with rather than agree with this sentiment, or it means that the system isn't necessarily able to fill the requests of all people who think this way. IMHO, you should click Fill or Support for a game or two, after which point you'll be protected against this (like I am the vast majorioty of the time) and THEN you can think this way and get upset if it doesn't happen. "Do the time" like everybody else. :yawn: ( I love that new emoji )

PEDIT: Note that when I say "do the time" I don't even mean play ADC or Support or whichever-role-is-in-meta-as-least-desirable-for-most-players, I mean play whichever role you're given when you click Fill or Support, and then you'll be in the clear to play how you will.


I don't follow your reasoning.

If auto-fill is on it's because people want certain roles, not that they want to wait less time. If they wanted to wait less time, they'd queue for low-demand positions and wait less time than even auto-fill.
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Post Post #2511  (isolation #191)  » Thu Feb 02, 2017 10:20 am

do they just abuse it because it's another lethality item that's now usable by an ADC?
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Post Post #2523  (isolation #192)  » Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:32 pm

I was going to make that joke, but then I literally thought to myself, "Zito will make fun of me for the lameness of that. Better not."
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Post Post #2536  (isolation #193)  » Sun Feb 05, 2017 11:37 pm

It's like MTD sets out to be anti-meta to be anti-meta.
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Post Post #2557  (isolation #194)  » Thu Feb 09, 2017 2:30 pm

In post 2555, Papa Zito wrote:what the hell was Cait doing all game


I don't know, but her largest critical strike was for 903 damage, which is roughly 14% of all the damage she did all game in one shot.
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Post Post #2590  (isolation #195)  » Mon Feb 13, 2017 12:23 pm

winning is a pretty minor thing for aram.
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Post Post #2664  (isolation #196)  » Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:46 pm

I actually kind of like autofill. Even getting ranked games where I have to play off roles seems a bit more satisfying. And really it doesn't seem to happen all that often.
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Post Post #2684  (isolation #197)  » Wed Feb 22, 2017 4:10 pm

Cleaver getting cheaper too!

but with less damage. And a worse build path for ADCs.
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Post Post #2687  (isolation #198)  » Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:38 pm

it's certainly fair.
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Post Post #2704  (isolation #199)  » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:29 pm

so MF is getting nerfed pretty badly, right?

Q - Double Up
BOUNCE BASE DAMAGE 40/70/100/130/160 ⇒ 20/35/50/65/80 (matching the first hit)
BOUNCE TOTAL AD RATIO 100% ⇒ 85% (matching the first hit)
BOUNCE AP RATIO 50% ⇒ 35% (matching the first hit)
REMOVEDMINI CRIT Bounces no longer deals 50% increased damage when the first hit kills a target
NEWREAL CRIT Bounces can now critically strike, and always critically strike when the first hit kills a target. Damage is affected by crit multipliers (ex. Infinity Edge).

Like... it's obviously an attempt to try to make her go critical strike. But if you're going to build crit, there are other better champions for it.
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