Open 740: Hope Plus One [Game over]

[ofrhz]

HI FRIENDS

VOTE: A50

[ofrhz]

HI FRIENDS

VOTE: A50

Should I get worried?

only if you're scum

r u scum

[ofrhz]

Boom. I died, got revived to play mafia, then died again, now I'm back again.

Pleasure to meet y'all.

VOTE: bambietta
oh god why

I'm guessing you know Bambi's main then?

[ofrhz]

OFRHZ
<3
this is the best day of my life
also ofrhz is

t o w n

nailed it

hi clem

[ofrhz]

Clearly I'm informed about what everyone's role is.

If you MUST know:

Cop - davesaz

Doctors - Clemency and DS

Scum - Bambi, Egix96, and bristep123

That's cool and all, but... why is DS a doctor?

What was the purpose of this question?

If you wanted to stop PR talk, why indulge Bambi at all?

VOTE: egix96

[ofrhz]

200 iq

I have been summoned

[ofrhz]

I’d laugh but I’m not sure that’s out of bambi’s scumrange tbh

[ofrhz]

Resident curmudgeon of MS davesaz is going to love this game

[ofrhz]

i'm imagining bambi's scumteam pleading and panicking while bambi's like

I mean this was literally me when she cc’d BEF’s daycop claim lmao

[ofrhz]

Elsa has too much chill

*ducks out of room*

[ofrhz]

*ducks out of room*

You sending tw out????

Thanks for this. Now my shitty pun is no longer

the worst

joke on this page

[ofrhz]

Pagetop!

[ofrhz]

Aww Dave has given us his blessing to shitpost to our hearts content

Spoiler:

[ofrhz]

Okay this game is pretty dead

volxen has posted elsewhere on the site but has yet to grace us with his presence

VOTE: volxen

HI. PLEASE JOIN US.

[ofrhz]

Not much to go off of but clemency and sleepless assassin can both be town for now

[ofrhz]

... Theoretical question, of course, but did Elsa's scum game teach you ANYTHING about being and/or finding scum?

Maybe a thing or two, the biggest one being that there is nothing outside your scumrange

Why do you ask

[ofrhz]

Not much to go off of but clemency and sleepless assassin can both be town for now

Can you declare me to be town too? Even if you didn't really mean it?

I dub A50 TOWN

[ofrhz]

So you wouldn't even be able to read me even if you tried. Got it.

Was trying to see if Jay taught you anythijg interesting for future games is all.

Realistically speaking, a poe approach to the game is probably the only way for me to catch you as scum

[ofrhz]

aw i coulda helped you pagetop bujaber

[ofrhz]

Clearly I'm informed about what everyone's role is.

If you MUST know:

Cop - davesaz

Doctors - Clemency and DS

Scum - Bambi, Egix96, and bristep123

I'm not liking the PR speculation.

VOTE: Bambietta Basterbine

Why did you think her post was PR speculation as opposed to a joke

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VOTE: ofrhz

Why?

[ofrhz]

That’s deep bro

Hmu with some more deep thoughts about the game

[ofrhz]

Hey Bambi, do you have any reads yet?

[ofrhz]

I'm bored

Who wants to help me LAL? We can start with volxen

[ofrhz]

Refresh my mind with the reason Volxen is a liar

LALurkers

[ofrhz]

I want to see DS return and do shit, personally. Also why do you post when I was thinking of going to bed early? You darn Europeans.

Meh he might be replaced if he doesn't post soon. Same with bristep

[ofrhz]

Also I'm American!

[ofrhz]

I want to see DS return and do shit, personally. Also why do you post when I was thinking of going to bed early? You darn Europeans.

Meh he might be replaced if he doesn't post soon. Same with bristep

I think it's more useful to wagon someone who's obviously here but not posting as opposed to someone who may never check this thread again lol

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Also happy scumday A50

[ofrhz]

I'm bored

Who wants to help me LAL? We can start with volxen

I find it a bit curious that you want to wagon me, but yet you don't seem to really have any questions for me or want to engage with me (beyond the single question that you asked me in post 200).

I was primarily interested in wagoning you because you were obviously present on site yet not producing much readable content

Besides, it’s hard to ask you questions when you’ve only made two posts, one of which was responding to me. I would’ve asked you for your reads next, but I see you’ve already supplied those.

Regarding reads, I don't feel there's enough content yet to form strong reads, but so far Almost50 is coming across as somewhat towny

Why?

Regarding Bambi, as I mentioned before I didn't like the PR speculation, and I'm hard pressed to find a pro-town motivation in talking about it, even in jest.

I also found it a bit suspect how she hoped onto Almost50's wagon and brought him up to four votes so early on in the game.

What’s wrong the bolded? Wagons tend to form early to generate pressure, no?

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Ok, 9 pages to catch up on.

Think there's been a movement to paint Bambi as scum, about PR speculation and also jumping on almost50's bandwagon. DS and Volxion just casually parking their votes for completely different reasons, not actively attacking but softly sowing suspicion. Maybe I'm imagining it, but maybe not.

Gut scumreading this

Ok, so initial reads.

<snip>

Bambi - All over the place, I don't know where to start. Quoted Johnny Johnny, so as a parent of 2 young children that's enough to sway me for now. Town.

This is an interesting read

[ofrhz]

Re-quoting these posts for context

Ok, 9 pages to catch up on.

Think there's been a movement to paint Bambi as scum

, about PR speculation and also jumping on almost50's bandwagon.

DS and Volxion just casually parking their votes for completely different reasons

, not actively attacking but softly sowing suspicion. Maybe I'm imagining it, but maybe not.

So you think DS and volxen may be shading Bambi here, that's fine. However, the phrase "paint Bambi as scum" implies that you think Bambi is scum's designated mislynch of the day or something.

I think in order to organically form a read like this one, you need to be townreading Bambi with some confidence.

Bambi -

All over the place, I don't know where to start.

Quoted Johnny Johnny, so as a parent of 2 young children that's enough to sway me for now.

Town.

This isn't a very good reason to call someone Town. The reason why I have an issue with your Bambi read in particular (as opposed to say, your townread on Clemency) is because at least your tr on clemency was based on tone. Also the bolded bits are slightly contradictory.

Compare your Bambi read with a couple others:

Gamma Emerald - neutral right now, nothing there screams scum but is questioning others but not really offering much substance right now

davesaz - No read yet, not much of substance at this point.

Gamma and dave both have fewer posts, but in terms of actual content, I believe they've already contributed more content to the game than Bambi has so far. So I guess it's interesting they're null while Bambi is town.

Maybe a little too early to say, but I think it's unlikely bristep and volxen are scum together.

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0 posts in 6 hours? Never done before
Btw I've just finshed reading the first Day of that Watchmen game. I think it really helps to read the actual thread and not just volxen's ISO because it's important to see why he was being scumread.
Disappointingly, it hasn't done much to change my read on him tho

Was he less active there? When was the game? When did you play with him as town?

_____________

V/LA until Saturday night

I may be able to check in around this time tomorrow if it's not too much to read. Otherwise I'm an empty slot for two days. Sorry.

I think it's probably better to hold off on explaining metareads on volxen in greater detail until the guy posts more in the game.

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You were voting for Egix before you voted for me. What are your thoughts on Egix currently?

Leaning town - Egix reading your last scumgame is a little more likely to come from town than scum imo

Read on bristep?

[ofrhz]

I read games for meta as both alignments

Same but I don't think most people do

also pagetop!

[ofrhz]

Bri, are you going to comment on 293, esp wrt your Bambi read?

[ofrhz]

A50 get in here and play the game with me

[ofrhz]

mfw I want to force replace half of the player list

[ofrhz]

@mod, Adelbert Steiner needs to be replaced

[ofrhz]

I can only lynch one player a day, and I have decided Adelbert should be it.
"Someone" should check Bambietta tonight, just to be sure.

What’s your read on volxen

[ofrhz]

What’s your read on volxen

Since you’re here gamma, mind answering this?

[ofrhz]

VOTE: bambi

[ofrhz]

Nani?!

If you’re asking why I voted for you, it’s because you seem to want discussion and reads from people but offer very little content of your own. Like there was no follow up to 162. And what gamma said I guess

Also because volxen seems to be a slow poster as both alignments, so I wasn’t feeling my vote there anymore.

[ofrhz]

Instead of quoting something I wrote as the game was just starting in earnest, you could actually talk about the points made against you.

Like really

[ofrhz]

Do you think anyone could possibly Poe with the level of content we have?

I haven’t played with you as town before. So that comment was made based on knowledge of your scumrange and without firsthand experience in trying to read you.

Are you suggesting I try to not read you at all because I didn’t have the confidence to earlier in the dayphase?

[ofrhz]

You’re still ignoring the points made against you

[ofrhz]

oh no actual questions
how am i supposed to fake activity now

um
ok so
i don't necessarily agree with 343
i pretty often find myself trying to push the game without really knowing how to
i wanna hear more of how ofrhz continues this

I guess this would depend on whether or not you think Bambi knows how to push the game out of rvs

I think she’s experienced enough to at least probe players or something

[ofrhz]

I'll just say it now, so we know where I stand: while I scumread Gamma, I think him or me is getting checked tonight, so I want someone who's currently going back into the scum meta of theirs I experienced firsthand.

VOTE: Ofhrz

Describe what you think my scum meta is

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I'm not seeing the stuff from Gamma Emerald that makes it hard for me to read him.
I often, perhaps even usually, notice weird pushes that tend to be awkward as hell and/or based on really hard to follow logic.
See my ISO in HMS Erebus for some posts that try to explain it.

I have previously pointed it out in this thread that his posting seems different to me.

Kinda makes me want to look up some scum games. Scumlean for the moment.

Could you expand on how his posting is different?

[ofrhz]

Regarding Egix - I gave reasons for my read, and their speculation on Bambi was more reasonable than Volxen and DS's. Again, I have no read on Bambi and I've covered this before; I didn't vote for DS or Volxen on that first post because there was no context to weigh up what I had seen. Also -

I said on Reaper's read that I thought his vote removal was weird

, so hence I gave Egix credit for picking it up.

Do you scumread unvotes at the end of rvs as a general rule?

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HI SORRY

[ofrhz]

Welp. If you're around Egix, now is the time to give us your final thoughts.

Scumpings from this post

I'd expect town to make some sort of comment about DS because of the hammer

This is just lamisty

[ofrhz]

But I don't have any comment to make about DS because of the hammer unless there was a flip. Which there wasn't.

I mean

Were you not annoyed because DS hammered without waiting for a claim?

[ofrhz]

But I don't have any comment to make about DS because of the hammer unless there was a flip. Which there wasn't.

Also this just isn't true

People make hammertest gambits to reaction test

[ofrhz]

Hmm I don't enjoy being lamisty so lemme make myself omgusy instead:

VOTE: ofrhz

That's better!

So then where's your comment about DS?

Are you kidding? I wasn't here

[ofrhz]

Which post are you referring to?

[ofrhz]

Basically there didn't seem to be any emotion or sense of urgency from your post in 616

[ofrhz]

Regarding Egix - I gave reasons for my read, and their speculation on Bambi was more reasonable than Volxen and DS's. Again, I have no read on Bambi and I've covered this before; I didn't vote for DS or Volxen on that first post because there was no context to weigh up what I had seen. Also -

I said on Reaper's read that I thought his vote removal was weird

, so hence I gave Egix credit for picking it up.

Do you scumread unvotes at the end of rvs as a general rule?

First game in legitimately 5 years, I don't have a general rule for anything. Were we at the end of RVS at that point?

But why is the fact that Reaper removed his RVS vote "weird" and possibly scummy?

Sorry to dig this up, but this was never answered.

[ofrhz]

@mod: volxen is voting twice in the last vc

[ofrhz]

Okay so what exactly are you trying to say?

I'm a little lost on how this train of thought is going. Is he wolf/wolfing us?

Wait who exactly are you talking to in this post?

To you but in regard to ofrhz's like intention with why he's asking you about your reaction to my almost hammer prompted by Bambi like, kinda just seems like shade throwing to me

Can you rephrase this? I don't follow

Or link which post you're talking about

[ofrhz]

I still like my vote on Bambi. I'd also vote Egix as well

Not interested in Clemency. He's probably town; his play is similar enough to another recent town game of his where he was similarly low content until we pressured him to produce content... and even then his content was underwhelming. I think he's spamming a lot more in this game, but that could be because a lot of us just finished playing with him, and he is more comfortable playing with familiar people.

Gamma and SA probably town by mindmeld

volxen's list of three scumreads in 637 is decent

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To you but in regard to ofrhz's like intention with why he's asking you about your reaction to my almost hammer prompted by Bambi like, kinda just seems like shade throwing to me

Can you rephrase this? I don't follow

Or link which post you're talking about

I don't really see how I can explain it any differently?

I don't get how it's shade throwing, especially since I said the post was scummy

[ofrhz]

Pagetop!