Open 740: Hope Plus One [Game over]

[Gamma Emerald]

Boom. I died, got revived to play mafia, then died again, now I'm back again.

Pleasure to meet y'all.

VOTE: bambietta
oh god why

[Gamma Emerald]

Boom. I died, got revived to play mafia, then died again, now I'm back again.

Pleasure to meet y'all.

VOTE: bambietta
oh god why

I'm guessing you know Bambi's main then?

Yes (no grudge just dread)

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh that fills me with it’s own breed of dread...

[Gamma Emerald]

Y’all know each other?

[Gamma Emerald]

Pagetop

[Gamma Emerald]

Anyone else notice the person in the middle of those being replaced playerlist wise got replaced first? Thoughts?

[Gamma Emerald]

Anyone else notice the person in the middle of those being replaced playerlist wise got replaced first? Thoughts?

Same person signed up thrice and got banned for it??

Wait is this for real

[Gamma Emerald]

Ok prolly not real

[Gamma Emerald]

Why the vote if not for that

[Gamma Emerald]

Why the vote if not for that

Pagetopping might mean you’re scum.

lol k
I mean when I see a slow ball coming down the middle of the plate I SWING!

[Gamma Emerald]

Mpfff
It seems our mod has little tolerance for errant speculation

[Gamma Emerald]

Yes we have a memer on deck

[Gamma Emerald]

Yes we have a memer on deck

Ooh ooh I'm a memer too. Show me what ya got!

VOTE: Almost50
If he was almost 50 when he joined, does that mean he's almost-almost 53 now?
Also, please don't self vote, it's not a good look for you

Parents of infants: I can’t wait til my child can walk and talk!
Parents of teenagers: would you sit down and shut up!
Teenagers:

[Gamma Emerald]

Greetings, Almost50 why do you still vote for yourself?

VOTE: Almost50

SCUM POST.

VOTE: Adelbert

-_-‘

[Gamma Emerald]

Hmmm.. I guess I haven't done much to actually draw the NK, seeing as not everybody knows me.

OK.. I hard claim MACHO DOCTOR.

P.S. Obviously if someone is, they can't CC because there are 2 of those in play. That should be safe enough to claim here. Now ehere is BEF to witness THIS.

Why are you mentioning BEF >~<

[Gamma Emerald]

i'm working on it ok
phd's are hard to get

You’re not a real doctor -z-

[Gamma Emerald]

What if we all theoretically keep up the Cop claim though tomorrow?

If we all claim results day 2, then scum STILL have to make a hard choice on whoever is the Cop.

Like a hypo-Cop? I’m down.

[Gamma Emerald]

I think Clemency is town

[Gamma Emerald]

I think Clemency is town

Breaking news! Local witch supports the Mafia!

I’m a mage!

[Gamma Emerald]

okay caught up, yall dont post much on this site so that was easy

not necessarily sold on a bambietta scum lean but i have no issue parking my vote there for now

Nah this game is just slow for site standards
I’m good having DS as a townread

[Gamma Emerald]

I think Clemency is town

I’m good having DS as a townread

Any reasons for these?

Clemency’s posting seems to carefree to be scum
I feel like I get where DS is coming from

Why do you feel the need to question my reads? You got a problem?

[Gamma Emerald]

Because sometimes you gotta shut up and let other people get the flow going. If I keep talking, it'll give some people some excuse to not start up conversations.

I gotta observe what the quieter people are saying now, so I'm limiting myself to one-liners and this explanation-type post for now. Id like to hear your thoughts though.

Ok
Wanna see you talk at some point tho

[Gamma Emerald]

Differently to what?

[Gamma Emerald]

I read games for meta as both alignments

[Gamma Emerald]

Who’s your main Reaper

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay, I thought about that post-saying that

[Gamma Emerald]

5 things we need to change and stat, btw, since you all wanna wait until the Europeans grace us with their presence.

VOTE: The Continent of Europe

1: Dave is someone I'd rather be aggresive because we need someone to not tolerate our shit and get us back on track.
2: My little buddy Giorno I want to have a firm readslist within the next 2 days so i can grill it with you and know your thought process.
3: Bristep's big readslist seem like something I'd do as town, flavorful and all, so ATM he'll be my second town pocket along with Clem.
4: Ofrhz isn't scum with a big talker this game because he's trying to interact with people this time. So I know at the very least who he's not a partner with.
5: Gamma stop being scummy because my current urge to hang goes You, then the Adelbert slot, then [REDACTED].

I’m not European, I just sleep through the morning because I’m a moron

[Gamma Emerald]

Are we gonna have to go at it
What about my play rn is “scummy”?

[Gamma Emerald]

1: nothing about it is towny either.

2: it's also women's intuition.

Ur mum isn’t towny
So my play is scummy by virtue of not being Townie? Did I become good enough to be BoPed, because I’d think not!
This read feels fake

[Gamma Emerald]

Looks like a steady lurker

[Gamma Emerald]

You could also not contradict yourself in the same game day and go for me despite not doing PoE for almost anybody.

Like really

VOTE: bambietta
I was hesitant to vote you but you pulling a gotcha play like that settles things. As I see it he figured that was the only way to catch you then, but now he sees it differently. That makes perfect sense and you hopping on that like a kid wanting a piggyback ride is very bad.
How does the BoP feel btw

[Gamma Emerald]

Do you think anyone could possibly Poe with the level of content we have?

I haven’t played with you as town before. So that comment was made based on knowledge of your scumrange and without firsthand experience in trying to read you.

Are you suggesting I try to not read you at all because I didn’t have the confidence to earlier in the dayphase?

I'm already doing PoE, why do you think I got Gamma ATM? His vote is the longest lasting vote now since page 1 and it's always been on me. Unlike the awkwardness from Reaper who is new to the site, he could have unvoted at any time without any notice. But he's still left it there while others build up on it. It's a Nullscum tactic to me. But you going against yourself already? Scumlean.

You’re still ignoring the points made against you

A good defense is ignore all that shit and stay on the offensive. Acknowleging it's scummy is be definition a form of guilt.

Ok guess my vote was already where it needed to be.
And lol ignoring a case isn’t towny. Scum could do it because they feel stuck in how to handle it. Plus I’ve admitted that there have been reasons to scumread me in past games as town, so that’s a crock of shit.

[Gamma Emerald]

Why would I need to reread? What do you think I missed?

[Gamma Emerald]

G U T. Can't you even read??

Why is G djee
Gee is a word

[Gamma Emerald]

~snip~

I kinda like this post but I dislike how rarely you post. Is there a specific reason you post this way?

[Gamma Emerald]

also english is pretty stupid, but so are 99% of languages
please engage me in a linguistics discussion i will go on for hours

Oh man French amirite
“Imagine having a language where everything sounds bland but makes sense”
This post brought to you by the French language gang

I’d make this as an image but lack the tools.

[Gamma Emerald]

I’ve never seen dj used in that way.
Can’t think of an ai motivation for using it or questioning it.
I’m a lot more fluent in IPA pronounced India Pale Ale.

Ha! You’ve never heard of Ramon Djawadi then

[Gamma Emerald]

If you think I’m above these acorny jokes you’re barking up the wrong tree pal

[Gamma Emerald]

ChibiBear replaces Adelbert Steiner.

ChibiBear is a newb
I can vouch for Town them being competent, haven’t seen scum!them yet

[Gamma Emerald]

If Donald Trump was in the mafia he wouldn’t fire people, he’d simply have them “taken care of”.

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay maybe not good at the reads part
But you’re good at making effective points, which imo counts for more

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay maybe not good at the reads part
But you’re good at making effective points, which imo counts for more

As a professional scum, making amazing points is more valuable as scum, while making amazing reads is more impactful as town.

I can state from experience good reads with no charisma will get you nowhere as town
You can fix reads when you realize you’re wrong
You can’t make up for a deficit in charisma beyond being obv/conftown, and even then you might get stonewalled

[Gamma Emerald]

While that’s annoying it works if you have towncred
Honestly I’m just bitching because I lack that talent
Why can’t I be the Ultimate Charismatic Leader?

[Gamma Emerald]

Nah lol, part of the Kokichi identity is lying and I’m a bad liar in mafia

[Gamma Emerald]

Why can’t I be the Ultimate Charismatic Leader?

Wait until we're not playing in the same game and I can give you at least one pointer.

That’s gonna take some willpower from one or both of us.

[Gamma Emerald]

Also effort = town is a lazy stance
I can be lazy or tryharding as either alignment, and so can most people.

[Gamma Emerald]

So like I think Clemency is town
The he was joking about didn’t look like he was scum around the time I formed the read

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah
Also that lack of conviction when told it was a joke, yikes
VOTE: Egix

[Gamma Emerald]

Why does how it’s typed matter
What matters is you pulled a complete 180. Do you not have any doubts he could just be saying it as a cover?

[Gamma Emerald]

Unvote, vote egix

New wagon. Hop on.

This one gets a pass because...?

[Gamma Emerald]

This will make a good test of the gamma tell I've been working on.

Is this a tell on me or about me -.-‘

[Gamma Emerald]

UNVOTE:

Credhammer?

[Gamma Emerald]

UNVOTE:

Credhammer?

Huh?

The second it was apparent you didn’t hammer you unvoted. So it’s very likely you just wanted that last minute bussing cred.

[Gamma Emerald]

Does anybody want more proof that Egix & Bambietta are scum twins?

Nah, I’m staying on EgiX and lynching DS in that scumflip

[Gamma Emerald]

UNVOTE:

Credhammer?

Huh?

The second it was apparent you didn’t hammer you unvoted. So it’s very likely you just wanted that last minute bussing cred.

I mean i dont think my unvote really had anything to do with that, it was very clear i was hammering just to hammer.

I mean you obviously wanted another hammer opportunity as you clearly showed, but I still think my ascribed motive is still valid

[Gamma Emerald]

Does anybody want more proof that Egix & Bambietta are scum twins?

Nah, I’m staying on EgiX and lynching DS in that scumflip

I'm not lynching Rihanna, my man.

I’ll juat nightkill you then

[Gamma Emerald]

When did you do that
I was pushing you sorta as part of RC’s bloc

[Gamma Emerald]

actually

i early hammered myself that game didnt i


i may be getting things confused

That makes more sense -~-‘

[Gamma Emerald]

Meh
I’ll let you be but you’re on thin ice

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm not lynching Rihanna, my man.

I’ll juat nightkill you then

Well, you do what you can. (Hint: I'm BP PGO)

Strongman with a mafia doc in my corner. Checkmate.

[Gamma Emerald]

Meh
I’ll let you be but you’re on thin ice

Your meme broke

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh it expired
Try uploading it to imgur and taking the link from there

[Gamma Emerald]

But I don't have any comment to make about DS because of the hammer unless there was a flip. Which there wasn't.

Also this just isn't true

People make hammertest gambits to reaction test

I don't understand gambits. They are beyond my intellectual capabilities.

[Gamma Emerald]

I’m pretty sure there is at least one scum among {Bambi, Egix, Bristep}. I’ve already talked about the things I find suspect about Bambi (the PR speculation, etc.), but Bristep and Egix have been throwing shade at me all game. Egix in particular has popped in just to throw shade at me (603), and his reasoning for scumreading me seems to be due to his read through of my one completed scum game on this site (Watcher Wanted). I haven’t seen him really do any analysis on my slot, other than saying he doesn’t like some of my posts and his read through of Watcher Wanted has apparently convinced him that I’m scum in this game. I’ve played with town!Egix before, and him scumreading me and throwing shade at me because of his read through of another game doesn’t seem towny to me. He doesn’t seem interested in sorting my slot based on my content

in this game

.

VOTE: Egix

Egix is at L-1.

Actually let's relook into the dude who put him into L-1 DESPITE ME LITERALLY JUST SAYING DS WILL QUICKHAMMER AND ME GIVING ACTUAL PROOF.

Egix, if you want to blame someone here, blame this bloke who literally came out of V/LA to murder your ass.

Bolden+EgiX team lezgo

[Gamma Emerald]

I was pronouncing it eggy-ecks

[Gamma Emerald]

You guys really are letting the game sizzle down. The last time a game sizzled down to its final moments I nearly got mislynched because "a wrong Lynch is better then a No Lynch" or some shit. It only didnt happen because Gamma was like "Oh NVM instead of Elsa dying I'll make it No Lynch instead of majority Lynch".

I feel like I know the outcome if i stall out because my style lends to me being killed when nothing better is happening.

That wasn’t what even happened, also thanks for attacking me out of nowhere
There was a poorly written rule that was obsolete anyway

[Gamma Emerald]

If you're a Doctor, protect the player right below you on the players list. If you SR that player (or in the case of DS who's right above me and Egix who's right above Sleepless) you can skip the one directly below you and target the one below them.

So there.

This plan looks like shite
Let’s say the alignments mesh with the playerlist in this way:
Town, Town, Town, Scum, Town, Scum, Town, Scum, Town, Town, Town, Town, Town
Mafia have a very clear block of people in which to kill freely.

[Gamma Emerald]

If you're a Doctor, protect the player right below you on the players list. If you SR that player (or in the case of DS who's right above me and Egix who's right above Sleepless) you can skip the one directly below you and target the one below them.

So there.

This plan looks like shite
Let’s say the alignments mesh with the playerlist in this way:
Town, Town, Town, Scum, Town, Scum, Town, Scum, Town, Town, Town, Town, Town
Mafia have a very clear block of people in which to kill freely.

So? Mafia mostly want to kill 1 slot: The Cop. They want to kill both Doctors as secondary targets and as a way to improve their chances to hit the Cop. Mafia shooting VTs is GOOD for the Town. Why do you think I always try to bait the NK as a VT??

Stopping kills helps still.

[Gamma Emerald]

i'm just saying, volxen has less posts than reaper, who's been v/la half the game(not blaming reaper or anything)
i'd expect a higher level of activity from the key town power role

I agree with this, plus overall from a meta dive I think he posts more substantially in general as town, with double the posts from his scum games from what I’ve seen.
VOTE: volxen

[Gamma Emerald]

UNVOTE:

Why?

[Gamma Emerald]

dont let him quickhammer himself i need the doc claims to coordinate

This is fair

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah that was L-1
3 on the VC, you and Dave voted, I voted after that, bring it to 6/7

[Gamma Emerald]

Ok so I don't think this is like the proper strategy but I'd rather not lynch anyone who has claimed PR (up until this point) until after D2 when we have more info from flips and stuff, just in case.

And the 3rd Scum is here.

Explain

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: DS
If you were a real cop where are your results

[Gamma Emerald]

Now if Clem did it right, we got 4 confirmed townies and 2 scum left in an 11p. GG no re.

That’s not autowin yet
It’s still super good for town though

[Gamma Emerald]

Wow, great start, feels good man.

@Gamma @Almost
How were you two so sure that volxen wasn't the cop?

Quite sure
I did meta work and the results were fairly damning

[Gamma Emerald]

Maybe try reading independently lol

[Gamma Emerald]

vote:RoS

A50 sent me

Why not chibibear

[Gamma Emerald]

vote:RoS

A50 sent me

Why not chibibear

U know something I don't?

Nope
Chibi is A50’s Lessing scumread so you sheeping the secondary read is shady

[Gamma Emerald]

LEADING NOT LESSING
WHAT THE FUCK IS APPLE’S AUTOCORRECT ALGORITHM

[Gamma Emerald]

Can we talk about who out of the people that voted AFTER the cop claim are most likely scum?

Im going to take a wild guess and assume its not SA.

Queue music

It's the....

FINAL VOTECOUNT (of day 1)

Vote Count 1.14:

volxen (7) (LYNCH):

bristep123, Bambietta Basterbine, Egix96, davesaz,

Gamma Emerald, Almost50, Sleepless Assassin

Bambietta Basterbine (3):

ofrhz, DS, volxen

ChibiBear (1):

ReaperOfSouls

Not Voting (2):

ChibiBear, Clemency

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2018-11-27 20:00:00)
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Why do you seem to be implying scum HAS to be in that demographic?

[Gamma Emerald]

Vote:Gamma

I think this reds as they hard pushed Egix and got in late on Volx

And me hard-pushing EgiX is scummy WHYYYY????

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Alonzo
My suspicion is that was a TMI post spewing EgiX town

[Gamma Emerald]

It’s possible but I feel like the way it is written comes from someone who plain knows you are Town. I think the thing that gets to me is the past tense with little qualification.

[Gamma Emerald]

That’s a little more understandable
I recall the EgiX wagon got pretty big, what do you think of it as a whole?

[Gamma Emerald]

It’s possible but I feel like the way it is written comes from someone who plain knows you are Town. I think the thing that gets to me is the past tense with little qualification.

From your perspective though, it should still make sense if I'm Alonzo's scumbuddy. So even if he has TMI, it doesn't necessarily mean I'm spewed town.
Besides, you can't really get meaningful spew from anyone unless they're dead scum.

Huh...? I thought he was trying to call me scum for pushing town. If it’s TMI, that makes you Town by him leaking info of your alignment.
And it’s not meaningful spew but I still think it’s a good way to look at people.

[Gamma Emerald]

What even was the EgiX case again

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

^ It's not too late to CFD this, is it?

Do you have a reason or are you just being random for the sake of it

[Gamma Emerald]

What even was the EgiX case again

tldr i made an ill-thought push on the cop

And the voted the doc lol

A50's not a doc. #StayWoke

Egix, I swear if you turn to be the other Doctor I'm going to request the game be replayed with the same roles and get you lynched on D1!!!

@Other Doctor: Plan is still intact. >I< will protect Clemency tonight. If he dies then I'll -obviously- be the next day lynch.

I already claimed VT, calm down dude. I just don't believe your claim. You could be gambiting just like Assassin was.

He was Town gambitting. So...?
This looks shady tbh

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Egix
That doesn’t resemble a town self vote

[Gamma Emerald]

Still counts as a vote though.

BTW if Egix flips scum and I don't get instalynched tomorrow then Gamma is gonna be high on my suspect list. Egix voting Gamma all of a sudden when it looks like his lynch is imminent and now Gamma double hammering, all looks a bit concerning to me.

I don’t know if it’s really hammer and I want to seal the deal
And why only if you don’t get instalynched? Do you not want me looked into in any scenario?

[Gamma Emerald]

As stated above, either you or Gamma via PoE.

Btw if Bri flips scum I'm quitting mafia forever.

Well I can't speak for Gamma as it was between the two of you for me by process of elimination. But if you flip town. Mine would be another mislynch.

I haven’t voted yet. Tbh I don’t see why people are clearing bristep

[Gamma Emerald]

No case, just skepticism

[Gamma Emerald]

No case, just skepticism

He presents as town more than the current suspects.

How?

[Gamma Emerald]

I have no opinion on him, stop acting like I have to explain myself because I’m being contrary. There’s been 0 in depth explanation of the townreads on bristep and they’ve felt non-present throughout the game so I don’t get where they come from

[Gamma Emerald]

To simplify:
I don’t have a reason to scumread bristep, I have a reason to not townread bristep.

[Gamma Emerald]

Lolwut
Also have seen 0 towncasing of bristep

[Gamma Emerald]

Lolwut
Also have seen 0 towncasing of bristep

Gam, why are you twitchy about me? Do you think I'm likely to be scum ahead of any of the others? It kinda bugs me but I'll tell you what's up, I led the charge on Volxen and got on board with Egix on D2. You look at my ISO initially it'll show you I'm not experienced enough to be playing that isolationist a game if I was scum.

You've had reads of your own and I haven't seen any cases from you either so lets go catch scum, Chibi or Reaper which way do you fall?

Chibi - Nobody is complaining that you're a bad player. They are ANALYSING YOUR BEHAVIOUR. You are the only one who has called yourself a bad player, or discounted your own reads. sorry if you had a bad experience in another game but as Dave says you are on day 3 still going on process of elimination with no analysis. People who are voting for you are doing so because they think you're scum. Nobody is putting you under the spotlight because they think you are a bad townie, that's totally on you I'm sorry.

I have a read on you but I’d prefer to hold onto it until someone posts an actual towncase
As for who I’d pick out of those two initial leaning is Chibi but I haven’t looked at RoS as much

[Gamma Emerald]

Game how do you compare chibibear here to chibibear in the last boony game?

Not sure
I just remember feeling they were suspect
Plus they’re the last of the D1 predictions A50 gave iirc (could be someone else’s predictions)

[Gamma Emerald]

I STILL want towncases on bristep.

[Gamma Emerald]

Well I skimmed posts when the hammer happened so that probably why

[Gamma Emerald]

Now, I know kinda what the answer is, but Dave doing that big read on Gamma is dangerous if he is scum and Gamma flips town. Likewise it's dangerous for you to do the big ISO on Dave out of nowhere if you are scum and he flips town. Now there's someone who hasn't done a big ISO on anyone, and that's Gamma (also Reaper but he's tomorrow)

Huh? How is doing a big ISO a risk as scum?

[Gamma Emerald]

What about Gamma demanding townreads of others but providing none themself?

I actually townread bristep's reaction to the townreads on them, but I didn't want to just give up on forcing tangible reads out of people
which I still would fucking like even if I'm not trying to see it myself, and was why I mentioned it in the first place toay

[Gamma Emerald]

I find it questionable dave voted me when he did, look into that

[Gamma Emerald]

where is this case

[Gamma Emerald]

The sad irony is that you could finally hammer, but it's not on someone you want to hammer.

I thought you were hammer...

[Gamma Emerald]

I find it questionable dave voted me when he did, look into that

Where are you leaning to vote today?

Probably Dave pending the case he says he has
I don’t recall him posting it and think it’s just an excuse, plus he naked voted me after like 2 votes on him

[Gamma Emerald]

I always think when Gamma sounds belligerant he's town, and more Jovial gamma is scum... change my mind.

Did you just copy how I read Firebringer in Witches Ball

[Gamma Emerald]

is Gamma at L-1?

Not anymore!




VOTE: Gamma

Wow do you have no fucking shame

[Gamma Emerald]

What the fuck do you think dumbass?

[Gamma Emerald]

Double fail hammer was entirely orchestrated btw, I saw that I wasn't hammering both times before posting

Yeah

Scum yanking the hammer from someone is not a fucking reason to clear the person hammer was stolen from, jfc

[Gamma Emerald]

Isn't elsa mysterious enough for you?

@BB

Yeah, Bambietta Basterbine will soon probably join JaydragonKing in retirement. Such a shame too. I'll miss get bitchy attitude and gruel demeanor.

You can't kill me, you bloody Thot.

Who is that avatar?

[Gamma Emerald]

I'll tell you if you keep that avatar of yours for atleast a year.

Ha good luck
and I'm on a desktop now so I can GIS it

[Gamma Emerald]

Not what I would have expected!

[Gamma Emerald]

scum pt when btw

[Gamma Emerald]

DS getting pissed off at me for self hammering

this conflicts with the failhammers being planned wtf

[Gamma Emerald]

got it
I definitely want to see how those failhammers were planned