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only if you're scum
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I'm guessing you know Bambi's main then?In post 13, Gamma Emerald wrote:
VOTE: bambiettaIn post 9, Bambietta Basterbine wrote:Boom. I died, got revived to play mafia, then died again, now I'm back again.
Pleasure to meet y'all.
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What was the purpose of this question?In post 105, Egix96 wrote:
That's cool and all, but... why is DS a doctor?In post 99, Bambietta Basterbine wrote:Clearly I'm informed about what everyone's role is.
If you MUST know:
Cop - davesaz
Doctors - Clemency and DS
Scum - Bambi, Egix96, and bristep123
If you wanted to stop PR talk, why indulge Bambi at all?
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I mean this was literally me when she cc’d BEF’s daycop claim lmaoIn post 138, Clemency wrote:i'm imagining bambi's scumteam pleading and panicking while bambi's like
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Thanks for this. Now my shitty pun is no longer
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Maybe a thing or two, the biggest one being that there is nothing outside your scumrangeIn post 186, Bambietta Basterbine wrote:... Theoretical question, of course, but did Elsa's scum game teach you ANYTHING about being and/or finding scum?
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I dub A50 TOWNIn post 189, Almost50 wrote:
Can you declare me to be town too? Even if you didn't really mean it?In post 185, ofrhz wrote:Not much to go off of but clemency and sleepless assassin can both be town for now- ofrhz
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Realistically speaking, a poe approach to the game is probably the only way for me to catch you as scumIn post 188, Bambietta Basterbine wrote:So you wouldn't even be able to read me even if you tried. Got it.
Was trying to see if Jay taught you anythijg interesting for future games is all.- ofrhz
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Why did you think her post was PR speculation as opposed to a jokeIn post 193, volxen wrote:
I'm not liking the PR speculation.In post 99, Bambietta Basterbine wrote:Clearly I'm informed about what everyone's role is.
If you MUST know:
Cop - davesaz
Doctors - Clemency and DS
Scum - Bambi, Egix96, and bristep123
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LALurkersIn post 230, Almost50 wrote:Refresh my mind with the reason Volxen is a liar- ofrhz
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Meh he might be replaced if he doesn't post soon. Same with bristepIn post 229, Bambietta Basterbine wrote:I want to see DS return and do shit, personally. Also why do you post when I was thinking of going to bed early? You darn Europeans.- ofrhz
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I think it's more useful to wagon someone who's obviously here but not posting as opposed to someone who may never check this thread again lolIn post 233, ofrhz wrote:
Meh he might be replaced if he doesn't post soon. Same with bristepIn post 229, Bambietta Basterbine wrote:I want to see DS return and do shit, personally. Also why do you post when I was thinking of going to bed early? You darn Europeans.- ofrhz
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I was primarily interested in wagoning you because you were obviously present on site yet not producing much readable contentIn post 253, volxen wrote:I find it a bit curious that you want to wagon me, but yet you don't seem to really have any questions for me or want to engage with me (beyond the single question that you asked me in post 200).
Besides, it’s hard to ask you questions when you’ve only made two posts, one of which was responding to me. I would’ve asked you for your reads next, but I see you’ve already supplied those.
Why?Regarding reads, I don't feel there's enough content yet to form strong reads, but so far Almost50 is coming across as somewhat towny
What’s wrong the bolded? Wagons tend to form early to generate pressure, no?Regarding Bambi, as I mentioned before I didn't like the PR speculation, and I'm hard pressed to find a pro-town motivation in talking about it, even in jest.I also found it a bit suspect how she hoped onto Almost50's wagon and brought him up to four votes so early on in the game.- ofrhz
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Gut scumreading thisIn post 256, bristep123 wrote:Ok, 9 pages to catch up on.
Think there's been a movement to paint Bambi as scum, about PR speculation and also jumping on almost50's bandwagon. DS and Volxion just casually parking their votes for completely different reasons, not actively attacking but softly sowing suspicion. Maybe I'm imagining it, but maybe not.
This is an interesting readIn post 278, bristep123 wrote:Ok, so initial reads.
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Bambi - All over the place, I don't know where to start. Quoted Johnny Johnny, so as a parent of 2 young children that's enough to sway me for now. Town.- ofrhz
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Re-quoting these posts for context
So you think DS and volxen may be shading Bambi here, that's fine. However, the phrase "paint Bambi as scum" implies that you think Bambi is scum's designated mislynch of the day or something.In post 256, bristep123 wrote:Ok, 9 pages to catch up on.
Think there's been a movement to paint Bambi as scum, about PR speculation and also jumping on almost50's bandwagon.DS and Volxion just casually parking their votes for completely different reasons, not actively attacking but softly sowing suspicion. Maybe I'm imagining it, but maybe not.
I think in order to organically form a read like this one, you need to be townreading Bambi with some confidence.
This isn't a very good reason to call someone Town. The reason why I have an issue with your Bambi read in particular (as opposed to say, your townread on Clemency) is because at least your tr on clemency was based on tone. Also the bolded bits are slightly contradictory.In post 278, bristep123 wrote: Bambi -All over the place, I don't know where to start.Quoted Johnny Johnny, so as a parent of 2 young children that's enough to sway me for now.Town.
Compare your Bambi read with a couple others:
Gamma and dave both have fewer posts, but in terms of actual content, I believe they've already contributed more content to the game than Bambi has so far. So I guess it's interesting they're null while Bambi is town.In post 278, bristep123 wrote: Gamma Emerald - neutral right now, nothing there screams scum but is questioning others but not really offering much substance right now
davesaz - No read yet, not much of substance at this point.
Maybe a little too early to say, but I think it's unlikely bristep and volxen are scum together.- ofrhz
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I think it's probably better to hold off on explaining metareads on volxen in greater detail until the guy posts more in the game.In post 286, Sleepless Assassin wrote:
Was he less active there? When was the game? When did you play with him as town?In post 284, Egix96 wrote:0 posts in 6 hours? Never done before
Btw I've just finshed reading the first Day of that Watchmen game. I think it really helps to read the actual thread and not just volxen's ISO because it's important to see why he was being scumread.
Disappointingly, it hasn't done much to change my read on him tho
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Leaning town - Egix reading your last scumgame is a little more likely to come from town than scum imoIn post 296, volxen wrote: You were voting for Egix before you voted for me. What are your thoughts on Egix currently?
Read on bristep?- ofrhz
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Same but I don't think most people doIn post 299, Gamma Emerald wrote:I read games for meta as both alignments
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What’s your read on volxenIn post 320, Almost50 wrote:I can only lynch one player a day, and I have decided Adelbert should be it.
"Someone" should check Bambietta tonight, just to be sure.- ofrhz
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Since you’re here gamma, mind answering this?In post 338, ofrhz wrote: What’s your read on volxen- ofrhz
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If you’re asking why I voted for you, it’s because you seem to want discussion and reads from people but offer very little content of your own. Like there was no follow up to 162. And what gamma said I guessIn post 342, Bambietta Basterbine wrote:Nani?!
Also because volxen seems to be a slow poster as both alignments, so I wasn’t feeling my vote there anymore.- ofrhz
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Do you think anyone could possibly Poe with the level of content we have?
I haven’t played with you as town before. So that comment was made based on knowledge of your scumrange and without firsthand experience in trying to read you.
Are you suggesting I try to not read you at all because I didn’t have the confidence to earlier in the dayphase?- ofrhz
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I guess this would depend on whether or not you think Bambi knows how to push the game out of rvsIn post 351, Clemency wrote:oh no actual questions
how am i supposed to fake activity now
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i pretty often find myself trying to push the game without really knowing how to
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I think she’s experienced enough to at least probe players or something- ofrhz
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Describe what you think my scum meta isIn post 425, Bambietta Basterbine wrote: I'll just say it now, so we know where I stand: while I scumread Gamma, I think him or me is getting checked tonight, so I want someone who's currently going back into the scum meta of theirs I experienced firsthand.
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Could you expand on how his posting is different?In post 370, davesaz wrote:I'm not seeing the stuff from Gamma Emerald that makes it hard for me to read him.
I often, perhaps even usually, notice weird pushes that tend to be awkward as hell and/or based on really hard to follow logic.
See my ISO in HMS Erebus for some posts that try to explain it.
I have previously pointed it out in this thread that his posting seems different to me.
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Do you scumread unvotes at the end of rvs as a general rule?In post 397, bristep123 wrote: Regarding Egix - I gave reasons for my read, and their speculation on Bambi was more reasonable than Volxen and DS's. Again, I have no read on Bambi and I've covered this before; I didn't vote for DS or Volxen on that first post because there was no context to weigh up what I had seen. Also -I said on Reaper's read that I thought his vote removal was weird, so hence I gave Egix credit for picking it up.- ofrhz
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Scumpings from this postIn post 616, ChibiBear wrote:Welp. If you're around Egix, now is the time to give us your final thoughts.
I'd expect town to make some sort of comment about DS because of the hammer
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I meanIn post 675, ChibiBear wrote:But I don't have any comment to make about DS because of the hammer unless there was a flip. Which there wasn't.
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Also this just isn't trueIn post 675, ChibiBear wrote:But I don't have any comment to make about DS because of the hammer unless there was a flip. Which there wasn't.
People make hammertest gambits to reaction test- ofrhz
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Are you kidding? I wasn't hereIn post 677, ChibiBear wrote:Hmm I don't enjoy being lamisty so lemme make myself omgusy instead:
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Sorry to dig this up, but this was never answered.In post 479, volxen wrote:
But why is the fact that Reaper removed his RVS vote "weird" and possibly scummy?In post 477, bristep123 wrote:
First game in legitimately 5 years, I don't have a general rule for anything. Were we at the end of RVS at that point?In post 471, ofrhz wrote:
Do you scumread unvotes at the end of rvs as a general rule?In post 397, bristep123 wrote: Regarding Egix - I gave reasons for my read, and their speculation on Bambi was more reasonable than Volxen and DS's. Again, I have no read on Bambi and I've covered this before; I didn't vote for DS or Volxen on that first post because there was no context to weigh up what I had seen. Also -I said on Reaper's read that I thought his vote removal was weird, so hence I gave Egix credit for picking it up. - ofrhz
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