Open 72 - Mountainous Multiball (Game over) before 595

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

I temporarily thought we had both a player named "scumbag" and "no lynch" in the game. Which would be terrible.

Vote smintylost23

, until he can satisfactorily explain to me why the statue only has four toes.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

Oh My God, U Suck, technically.

Unvote, vote strangercoug.

I'm not really liking his reactions. Feels like someone who's really trying to look protown.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

Well, then its an OMGYS vote, isn't it?

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

Wow. I have

sway.

Unvote.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

How serious are you, really? I find it hard to believe you can be very certain.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

Roflcopter, you're pretty quick to jump on me (no innuendo) for trying to go with majority (at the time) to try not to stand out. The reason I didn't want to stand out was not because I'm scum, but because I didn't want to get KILLED by scum.

My immediate response was "voodo just softclaimed a power role." Then I went, "wait a minute, we don't have any power roles." The only people who need to be concerned about being killed are scumzors.

Vote voodo.

I believe that's L-2, contradicting what someone else said earlier.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

...someone's at L-2 already? This is not good.

Um, why is that bad?

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

Well, voodo needlessly bandwagoned strangercoug, and then, as his explanation, said he "didn't want to be nightkilled." Now, unless he's lucky enough to received a power role in a mountainous game, he's no more valuable than the rest of us, so there's no reason for him to avoid being nightkilled, unless, of course, he's scum.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

Why should civilians try to survive?

Clearly, the scum are going to kill

someone

. What makes you any more valuable than the rest of us?

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

Gah, you clearly just don't get it.

Consider, as town: The way we win is by lynching scum.

Scum win by not getting lynched (or by not getting crosskilled, I suppose, in this case).

There are more town than scum.

Therefore, individual scum are much more valuable than individual townies.

So, acting in a manner specifically designed to not draw attention to yourself is scummy.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

That is a fairly blatant mischaracterization of what I said.

I'm still comfortable with my vote.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

Except that doesn't track with what you said:

The reason I didn't want to stand out was not because I'm scum, but because I didn't want to get KILLED by scum.

You didn't say, "I want to survive," you were specifically referring to the nightkill.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

Yeah, we shouldn't hammer yet. I feel reasonably confident for page 5 about voodo's scumminess, but we should still talk a little more.

Freckles: We can unvote. You know that, right? Also, don't give us vague, nonsense, reasons for your vote and then tell us its serious.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

There is a distinct possibility that greasy spot is anti-town regardless of his alignment.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

Well, even that's better. Just saying that you're familiar with him makes it sound like you are voting for him just because you know him. Saying, "well, I've played with him before as scum, and he's played like this," while hardly damning, is at least a reason. And it can actually mean something to us, since most of us, I assume, have not played with him.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

It means the final vote to lynch.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

Well, gee, freckles, that's not open for exploitation or anything.

@ SweatpantsNinja: There are two factions of scum, both trying to kill each other and the townies. If I stand out, I'm obviously going to get nightkilled. This is because the two people per faction know each other, and would assume that I belonged to the other faction.

Because. . . being aggressively pro-town is a scumtell, while quietly bandwagoning is a towntell, obviously. If scum were interested in killing scum, wouldn't they kill

scummy

players?

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

Thank you, mellowed man, for your contribution.

Smintylost: The case on voodo makes more than a little sense, in terms of early day 1 tells, its pretty damn good.

The only people who have any interest in not being nightkilled are scum.

Voodo flat-out admitted that he was trying to stay under the radar.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

How's that working out for you as a strategy, greasy spot?

Considering we don't have to work through any kind of claiming, hammering isn't that big a deal. Just treat L-2 as you would normally treat L-1, etc.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

I'll let you know when I figure it out.

Let me give you a forecast: Its going to get you lynched on Day 2. A lot.

Freckles, be useful.

Alvin, the case is that voodo cares too much about being nightkilled, and I am, at least, unimpressed by his defense. There are times when claiming ignorance will work on me, but he doesn't sound genuine, and he's misrepresented what I actually said. And he doesn't sound stupid, so, y'know, I don't think its that.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

No offense meant. . . but if you want us to lynch scumbag, you're going to have to do a little bit better than telling us to vote for him.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

Fine. Examples of scumbag lurking as scum?

Your meta is meaningless to the rest of us without some evidence.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

No, no, you misunderstand me. You say scumbag is scum because you've played with him before, and he's played like this. So since the rest of us don't know that, give us examples, links,

something

beyond just your sayso.

And mounting campaigns against people is sort of the point.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

I assume he'll contradict you if you're lying.

And lurking, unfortunately, is something people do independent of them being scum, generally speaking. So if scumbag is different, prove it.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

You may find the pace here slightly slower than you're used to.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

I'm generally not opposed to some lurker pressure, but voodo dropping off the radar distresses me.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

What?

No, its not. People lurk. Lurkers are not necessarily scum.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

Well. I take it back.

Unvote, vote mellowed man.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

What in your right mind makes you think this is of any help to town?

Immature and young we may be, but at least we have some basic idea how to play the game, amirite?