Witches' Halloween Ball [Game Over]

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #92 (isolation #0) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 8:02 am

In post 8, RadiantCowbells wrote:Most importantly I'd like there two be at least two unquestionably TvT pairings that don't include me and I'd like to dance with ideally low priority nightkill town as well

My thoughts on this setup after playing it the first time is that we should go for

3 pairings of the most townie people with townie people (one is gonna die to scum's nightkill, and if we rely too heavily on being right for sure on the other one we can be screwed. Odds are we find at least one T+T pairing in the remaining 2).

Then we pair the remaining groups wiht the following values in mind:

Most townie remaining Lady -> Least Townie remaining Gent

by definition it'll create some TvT pairings but I think more importantly, it allows for us to put high trust targets with low trust targets. I also considered doing like 3 bad with bads for them to agree to die, but basically we need to have pairings where we can read them while also relying that there is a solid town person able to leave the dance if necessary.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #93 (isolation #1) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 8:06 am

We absolutely can control people's pairings. If you pair out of order, you die via lynch. Prerogative of the town. It takes two to tango, which means if you pair out of order, then two people agreed to do awful thing and that icnreases the odds at least one of you is scum.

So yeah, death for anyone who pairs early or pairs outside plan.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #94 (isolation #2) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 8:07 am

In post 91, Karmeleon wrote:People, be less boring

This post, plus other earlier posts reads like someone who drew scum and is really fucking excited about it. Anyone know if this player hates to be scum or anything that would preclude this tone read?

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #95 (isolation #3) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 8:07 am

DVa is town

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #97 (isolation #4) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 8:10 am

SaHa tentatively town for derping so much.

Firebringer is ??? and remains there.

Shortaru... join date+posting is very much inline. Will likely be easy to read as things go.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #98 (isolation #5) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 8:10 am

In post 96, Karmeleon wrote:Can someone ever be excited about randing scum?

!!!

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #99 (isolation #6) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 8:11 am

oh wait fuck, another join date concern.

Wait, is Karmeleon a hydra or alt or somehting?

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #102 (isolation #7) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 8:12 am

In post 101, Firebringer wrote:
In post 99, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:oh wait fuck, another join date concern.

Wait, is Karmeleon a hydra or alt or somehting?
Alt

Then Karmeleon is probably scum.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #105 (isolation #8) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 8:13 am

In post 100, Firebringer wrote:
In post 93, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:We absolutely can control people's pairings. If you pair out of order, you die via lynch. Prerogative of the town. It takes two to tango, which means if you pair out of order, then two people agreed to do awful thing and that icnreases the odds at least one of you is scum.

So yeah, death for anyone who pairs early or pairs outside plan.
Good luck with that

It really will not be hard.

I promise if you pair out of order or early to spite us we will lynch you because it's anti-town. I don't care if you decide to do it as town as some kind of "message that yuo can't control people"

The fact is you don't need to flip mafia to be working for the scum.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #107 (isolation #9) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 8:13 am

In post 103, Firebringer wrote:
In post 97, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:SaHa tentatively town for derping so much.

Firebringer is ??? and remains there.

Shortaru... join date+posting is very much inline. Will likely be easy to read as things go.
You can put me as scum.
I am putting you as scum too!

Let’s be scum buddies LLD

Understood.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #109 (isolation #10) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 8:15 am

In post 104, Karmeleon wrote:
In post 99, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:oh wait fuck, another join date concern.

Wait, is Karmeleon a hydra or alt or somehting?
Pretty sure hydras are not allowed

That... completely dodges the point in a weird way that doesn't feel town but I am uncertain is alignment indicative?

In post 106, Karmeleon wrote:
In post 102, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 101, Firebringer wrote:
In post 99, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:oh wait fuck, another join date concern.

Wait, is Karmeleon a hydra or alt or somehting?
Alt
Then Karmeleon is probably scum.
Not all alts rand scum

This one on the other hand is scummy as a reaction, so we're starting to get preponderance of evidence.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #113 (isolation #11) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 8:16 am

In post 108, Firebringer wrote:
In post 105, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:It really will not be hard.

I promise if you pair out of order or early to spite us we will lynch you because it's anti-town. I don't care if you decide to do it as town as some kind of "message that yuo can't control people"

The fact is you don't need to flip mafia to be working for the scum.
Ur not controlling me

Ur not controlling anyone.

I ain’t ur sub

I don’t particularly care about being anti town and you know that so why we having this discussion, do you really think YOU can intimidate me?

Two things

1) I'm telling you what will happen when you decide to do this. Your actions are your own, just know they'll have consequences.

2) I might not be in control, but I've got a feeling enough people will agree with not just me, but the confirmed town who seems to be on the same wavelength as I do.

So....

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #121 (isolation #12) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 8:20 am

In post 114, Firebringer wrote:I already told you good luck with it LLD, everything else you try saying is just you trying to assert some makeshift power you hold.

Pretty sure ur scum too rn

Yeah you keep saying that.

It's interesting you keep saying it... to me.

If you really thought or cared I was scum I presume you'd be trying to convince others who might town read me.

Instead of wasting your breath on me.

I wonder if I just found two scum and this game is that easy.

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm probably not. You're a pretty big VI.

But it is a weird motivational thing....

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #127 (isolation #13) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 8:23 am

In post 120, Moment wrote:
In post 92, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Then we pair the remaining groups wiht the following values in mind:

Most townie remaining Lady -> Least Townie remaining Gent

by definition it'll create some TvT pairings but I think more importantly, it allows for us to put high trust targets with low trust targets. I also considered doing like 3 bad with bads for them to agree to die, but basically we need to have pairings where we can read them while also relying that there is a solid town person able to leave the dance if necessary.
I don't entirely understand this. What is the benefit of having it such that people can leave the dance? Wouldn't it be better to simply have the least townread people pair together and lynch them to kill two birds with one stone, so to speak? Killing a townread player along with a scummier player seems plainly suboptimal compared to the alternative.

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In post 94, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 91, Karmeleon wrote:People, be less boring
This post, plus other earlier posts reads like someone who drew scum and is really fucking excited about it. Anyone know if this player hates to be scum or anything that would preclude this tone read?
Why drew scum and is excited over simply being excited in general?

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In post 95, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:DVa is town
Why? I don't find anything particularly towny about the throwing out of all of those early reads.

Because what happens when you pair a bunch of low fruit with other low fruit is that people get it in their head that you're wrong about those low fruit, the low fruit won't agree to pair and what ends up happening is they take down a bunch of non-low fruit with them.

It's better to high low pair because the odds that all the low hanging fruit are scum is low. Additionally, since we're making a buffer zone for a couple of the most obivous T+T pairings, it's important as the game goes on and votes get lower, the ability to suicide leave the game. It's very important.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #129 (isolation #14) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 8:25 am

As for the other two things

One is a tone read, I don't have a reason for thinking that beyond it just being an explanation of his(Karmelon) posts that fits well. Additionally, it doubled as an ability to draw aggro and reactions from him that would influence my read more. As you can see, he's become much more obviously scum post my pressure on him.

DVa town is a gut read based on posts. I don't explain town reads, it's anti town.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #130 (isolation #15) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 8:25 am

In post 128, Karmeleon wrote:
In post 124, shortaru wrote:Karma was looking kinda dodgy, there.
For not wanting to answer whether I'm an alt or not?

That's not what you did and your active attempt at obliviousness is.... yeah no you're scum. Why am I arguing with you

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #133 (isolation #16) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 8:27 am

In post 132, shortaru wrote:
In post 105, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 100, Firebringer wrote:
In post 93, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:We absolutely can control people's pairings. If you pair out of order, you die via lynch. Prerogative of the town. It takes two to tango, which means if you pair out of order, then two people agreed to do awful thing and that icnreases the odds at least one of you is scum.

So yeah, death for anyone who pairs early or pairs outside plan.
Good luck with that
It really will not be hard.

I promise if you pair out of order or early to spite us we will lynch you because it's anti-town. I don't care if you decide to do it as town as some kind of "message that yuo can't control people"

The fact is you don't need to flip mafia to be working for the scum.
But how do we know that you're not Mafia trying to control pairings?

There's a lot to gain for scum to decide who lovers are.

I'm going to be listening to confirmed town Radiant.

...

I wonder....

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #143 (isolation #17) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 8:34 am

In post 139, shortaru wrote:
In post 129, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I don't explain town reads, it's anti town.
Wait is this true or theory?

It's both!

The concept is that by explaining what made you town read someone, it opens attack vectors allowing others to get into your blind spots.

So it's just not worth it.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #147 (isolation #18) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 8:39 am

In post 144, Sakura Hana wrote:Why are you so worried that I asked Kokichi to dance? I had decided that i'd do that since he in'd for this because he's a cool person i like playing with. Besides it's not like he has accepted or rejected yet.

By doing it early it shirks any way for us to plan pairings that optimize town's benefits. Additionally, doing it before KOKICHI HAS EVEN POSTED shirks our ability to try and isolate a scum and deny them a pairing.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #157 (isolation #19) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 8:54 am

In post 151, Moment wrote:LLD, would you mind explaining to me what's "obviously scum" about Karmeleon's response in 106?

It misrepresents my point.

My point was his early posts and reactions were bad and tonally sounded like I've explained before. Then, I had a moment of pause, considering his join date (similar to Shotoko or whatveer you spell it).

So I asked if he was a hydra or alt, to determine whether he was new or experienced.

His line here suggests I am asking it based on some kind of inane reason that isn't relevant, so it's dodging the actual accusation, clearly that I was aiming for his experience level, in favour of trying to subvert the issue.

On its own, no one post is scum, but the reaction+tone+further posting once I began to lock him as scum in my mind has continued to line up.

I even mentioned that one of the posts looks bad but is likely alignment non indicative, but the other one looks scum. I think the words I used were "we are getting a preponderance of the evidence that this person is scum". Basically I'm saying "his posts add up to this, no one post is the single reason, but he has a ton of bad posts here is why they are bad".

Does this translate?

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #158 (isolation #20) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 8:56 am

In post 156, Moment wrote:
In post 154, shortaru wrote:Breeding apathy, no spice... why do you townread that post?
"Breeding apathy"? I think your thoughts of how scum play are far too grand. I think very infrequently do scum actually have some kind of master plan like that, and even if they did I sincerely doubt that it would take the form of a single two line post among a sea of other spam. I think if you consider the mindset behind that post, it shows an element of frustration; Brian thinks that one or more of us are being stupid and doesn't exactly want to jump into the thread. Dealing with people who you think are being stupid is often a chore as town, but as scum can give you the opportunity to be LAMIST, to over-explain things, and to basically write a lot of words without really having to come up with anything truly difficult to come up with.

Of course, I wouldn't place a huge amount of strength into a read based on that single post, but in a vacuum I'd say it's more likely to come from town that scum. At the very least, I don't think your reasons for scumreading it are particularly reliable.

Ok, first off my dude?

Dude joined the site like 2 weeks ago and I don't know his experience level but "I think your thoughts of how scum play are far too grand" is like, not helpful.

Second off, he's right and you're wrong. Scum plan, scum plot, scum have intentions and attack vectors.

Intentionality and motivation are a huge part of finding scum and rooting them out and the fact that you think that scum creating apathy isn't a weapon in their arsenal, let alone one of their best ones in a game mode like this, then boy have I got a bridge in brooklyn I'd love to sell you.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #159 (isolation #21) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 8:57 am

Here's a better litmus test for Moment.

YO MOMENT.

WHAT ARE YOUR READS, CURRENTLY.

Since you seem to be going around the game and telling everyone their reads are wrong, I should assume you have a bunch of strong town reads ya?

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #162 (isolation #22) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 8:59 am

In post 161, MariaR wrote:U-um hi

MARIA

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #163 (isolation #23) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 9:00 am

FUCKIN SAVE ME I NEED SO MUCH SANITY CHECK THIS GAME

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #188 (isolation #24) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 9:12 am

In post 187, Moment wrote:
In post 176, MariaR wrote:Found the first person I wanna dance with.
Would that be me, or would that be LLD?

You. She already expressed that she and I are both ladies and can't do it.

That said so are you so~. Why can't we be lesbians at this ball

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #192 (isolation #25) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 9:14 am

In post 189, Firebringer wrote:Where did ur insanity go LLD?

It's still here, I'm just being sated with food.

Ramen is yum.

Also Maria is sanity.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #204 (isolation #26) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 9:21 am

In post 202, shortaru wrote:
In post 196, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 145, Moment wrote:And so explain to me how that thought (whether it's true or not) leads to the conclusion "I should pair with someone whose alignment I have literally random information regarding"? Assuming you're town, of course.
If he pairs up with me and i scumread him ill just leave the dance. It's not like im forced to live with him all game.
But what if you're wrong?

I don't like suicide bombing, better to leave lynches to groupthink.

Oh my god this one is scum too I seriously have been trying to calm myself.

Like

Surely all the scum can't be present early on, we're missing so many people.

But this is.....

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #223 (isolation #27) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 9:31 am

In post 212, Moment wrote:
In post 202, shortaru wrote: I don't like suicide bombing, better to leave lynches to groupthink.
I like the double entendre.

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In post 204, Lady Lambdadelta wrote: Oh my god this one is scum too I seriously have been trying to calm myself.

Like

Surely all the scum can't be present early on, we're missing so many people.

But this is.....
Why do you scumread that? It seems a perfectly reasonable thought, to me.

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In post 208, MariaR wrote:
In post 203, Moment wrote:What's your read on Gamma Emerald?
Before I answer why did you ask me about gamma out of everyone.
Because I scumread him and because, of the three gentlemen who have actually posted content, you didn't include him in who you want Malakittens to ask to the dance so you can kill.

"It seems like a perfectly reasonable thought to me" is exactly why I scum read it.

It's perfectly safe, it's zero risk, it's....

it's scum motivated. it's designed to look townie.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #225 (isolation #28) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 9:32 am

In post 222, Moment wrote:I'm liking Karmeleon a bit better for town now.

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In post 214, Firebringer wrote:
In post 212, Moment wrote:like the double entendre.
That’s not a double entendre
I thought he was trying to say "leave the lynches to the will of the group" when he said groupthink rather than specifically to the psychological concept of groupthink, which would've made it a double entendre. Perhaps not.

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In post 221, shortaru wrote:I don't advocate for the use of suicide bombers in every game, either (unless I'm scum as a desperation tactic, perhaps)
I believe she was referring to the risk of being wrong in every mafia game rather than the risk of suicide bombing in every game.

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LLD, what's your read on me currently? You seemed poised for something dramatic with your line of questioning towards me - I'm interested in what you're thinking.

I just wanted to see where your reads were at as a sanity check. I think you are town, especially since there are a bunch of people I'm scum reading rn in the town.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #228 (isolation #29) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 9:33 am

I wanna dance with Dunnstral.

Steal him from Maria~.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #230 (isolation #30) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 9:35 am

In post 227, shortaru wrote:
In post 223, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:"It seems like a perfectly reasonable thought to me" is exactly why I scum read it.

It's perfectly safe, it's zero risk, it's....
It's so safe and risk-free that you called me scum?

Kinda undermining your point, aren't you?

...

did anyone else notice he cut off a relevant part of my post?

Let me spell it out PERFECTLY CLEAR for EVERYONE.

TRYING TO CONVINCE PEOPLE YOU ARE TOWN=ALIGNMENT UNINDICATIVE

TRYING TO MAKE SAFE NON CONTROVERSIAL STATEMENTS TO AVOID PEOPLE LOOKING AT YOU = SCUM MOTIVATION

is that clear enough

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #245 (isolation #31) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 9:41 am

In post 236, Moment wrote:
In post 223, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:"It seems like a perfectly reasonable thought to me" is exactly why I scum read it.

It's perfectly safe, it's zero risk, it's....

it's scum motivated. it's designed to look townie.
While I don't disagree with you in principle that things like this are often scum-indicative, I feel like you're ignoring something you were just consiering earlier in that shotaru is a relatively newer player. I think taking that into account, it's less scum-indicative than it might be for someone else, if it's even scum-indicative at all.

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In post 230, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:did anyone else notice he cut off a relevant part of my post?
I have seen people point to this as a reason why players who use selective quoting are scum. I have never seen it be used as a reason why someone who was actually scum was scum.

I'm really really trying to consider it, but it's...

Is that kind of thing really something a newbie wouldn't do?

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #248 (isolation #32) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 9:42 am

In post 246, MariaR wrote:
In post 240, Firebringer wrote:
In post 237, MariaR wrote:
In post 234, Firebringer wrote:
In post 231, MariaR wrote:
In post 228, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I wanna dance with Dunnstral.

Steal him from Maria~.
I refuse to dance with dunn this game so he's all yours.
Did he call you fat?
Yes I'm very upset.
*hugs* it’s alright, you don’t need him girl. You are better than him
*sniff* thanks I just came all dolled up and it took a lot of confidence to come here and-*cries* guys suck!

That bastard!

It's ok girl, we're gonna go out to the clubs tonight and get drunk. Forget him~.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #288 (isolation #33) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 12:08 pm

I think Maria<->Cakez is a good pairing.

I also think Dunnstral<->LLD is a good pairing.

Because frankly 1) I think all four of those names are town now seeing their posting

and 2) I think all four of those names are entirely unafraid of killing themselves to kill the other if they get the slightest hint of them being scum.

I do want to run it by other people's reads, specifically interested in our confirmed town's perspective on things, but yeah I think those are a few good pairings.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #289 (isolation #34) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 12:09 pm

In post 287, DVa wrote:
In post 230, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:...

did anyone else notice he cut off a relevant part of my post?

Let me spell it out PERFECTLY CLEAR for EVERYONE.

TRYING TO CONVINCE PEOPLE YOU ARE TOWN=ALIGNMENT UNINDICATIVE

TRYING TO MAKE SAFE NON CONTROVERSIAL STATEMENTS TO AVOID PEOPLE LOOKING AT YOU = SCUM MOTIVATION

is that clear enough
does LLD always caps this much by page 10?

always is a weird way to put it...

sometimes I don't get to the game before it reaches 10 pages Kappa

(yes I use caps a LOT for emphasis... and yelling.... and frustration... and.... it goes on)

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #291 (isolation #35) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 12:10 pm

In post 290, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 288, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I think Maria<->Cakez is a good pairing.

I also think Dunnstral<->LLD is a good pairing.

Because frankly 1) I think all four of those names are town now seeing their posting

and 2) I think all four of those names are entirely unafraid of killing themselves to kill the other if they get the slightest hint of them being scum.

I do want to run it by other people's reads, specifically interested in our confirmed town's perspective on things, but yeah I think those are a few good pairings.
I dont have TRs on any of those 4

Then you'll be happy to see them pair, yes? or what exactly are you trying to say here?

Further, it sounds a lot like you just threw that line out. Explain your reads on all four, please.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #423 (isolation #36) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 3:48 pm

RC can I get reads from you? I want you paired with your single towniest read, but I also want to start planning out how pairings should look generally, so...

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #424 (isolation #37) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 3:49 pm

In post 422, RadiantCowbells wrote:No one has accepted a dance correct

Correct. Two ladies, no three ladies have offered.

Maria offered Cakes
Mara offered someone
Sakura offered someone

one of them offered Kokichi too, I don't remember

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #425 (isolation #38) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 3:51 pm

Like I think the way this should go is RC should say who he wants to pair with, that lady should offer and that should get locked up.

Then we can start by making a couple of T+T by our guesses pairings. And then pair best with worst on each side.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #428 (isolation #39) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 3:55 pm

In post 426, Moment wrote:
In post 425, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Then we can start by making a couple of T+T by our guesses pairings.
And then pair best with worst on each side.
I still don't understand why you think this, and you haven't responded to what I said about it earlier.

Avoids the scum+scum pairing which I think is the worst attack vector.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #438 (isolation #40) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 4:04 pm

In post 429, RadiantCowbells wrote:I think the process of my giving reads out will unduly affect the way that the scum team plays the game in ways that will prove beneficial to them. Obviously this needs to be counterbalanced with keeping game momentum up so I think I'll wait like until Monday evening and then start giving reads then we can collectively start making pairings when we're ready after then?

Works for me. I'll keep applying pressure until then.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #440 (isolation #41) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 4:05 pm

In post 433, Moment wrote:
In post 428, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 426, Moment wrote:
In post 425, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Then we can start by making a couple of T+T by our guesses pairings.
And then pair best with worst on each side.
I still don't understand why you think this, and you haven't responded to what I said about it earlier.
Avoids the scum+scum pairing which I think is the worst attack vector.
I can't imagine why. Shouldn't a scum+scum pairing be easier to lynch than a scum+town pairing?

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In post 430, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 427, shortaru wrote:I was under the impression that this game is town-sided considering vi haven't seen a scum win yet.
Last time i played this game scum won coz i suicided out of paranoia and screwed a town auto win.
This doesn't affect your mindset of "if Kokichi is scum I can just suicide"?

scum+town doesn't have a recourse for the auto leave effect, with scorched earth.

Scum+scum is the danger.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #531 (isolation #42) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:55 am

In post 516, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 288, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I think Maria<->Cakez is a good pairing.

I also think Dunnstral<->LLD is a good pairing.

Because frankly 1) I think all four of those names are town now seeing their posting

and 2) I think all four of those names are entirely unafraid of killing themselves to kill the other if they get the slightest hint of them being scum.

I do want to run it by other people's reads, specifically interested in our confirmed town's perspective on things, but yeah I think those are a few good pairings.
I'm on board with pairing with you, by the way

I'll probably offer you a dance once I talk with RC a bit more about his reads on monday.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #532 (isolation #43) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:59 am

In post 515, RadiantCowbells wrote:I think Dunn is a good towny boi

This is right. Cakez is also town male.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #694 (isolation #44) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:23 pm

In post 690, RadiantCowbells wrote:btw this is super fuckin important

yall need to trust in the process 'cause the people solving this game are gonna be dead in late game

idc what happens don't start changing the lynch order when we've set the top 4 town pairings
lynch everyone outside of it then lynch in the order that we preselect

if you have a problem with the preselected order in the late game idc

sakura just conftowned
i dont think anyone disagrees with dva town

let's move from there

Karmelon not town though.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #698 (isolation #45) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:31 pm

RC
Cakez/Dunn
Kokichi/Brian
Gamma
Short
Karmeleon

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #701 (isolation #46) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:32 pm

In post 204, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 202, shortaru wrote:
In post 196, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 145, Moment wrote:And so explain to me how that thought (whether it's true or not) leads to the conclusion "I should pair with someone whose alignment I have literally random information regarding"? Assuming you're town, of course.
If he pairs up with me and i scumread him ill just leave the dance. It's not like im forced to live with him all game.
But what if you're wrong?

I don't like suicide bombing, better to leave lynches to groupthink.
Oh my god this one is scum too I seriously have been trying to calm myself.

Like

Surely all the scum can't be present early on, we're missing so many people.

But this is.....

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #702 (isolation #47) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:33 pm

not a fan of Short's general approach, he's got some newbie points but I just..... call it a bad feeling about his posting that I don't think being a newbie absolves him of.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #704 (isolation #48) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:36 pm

RC, where are you on

Maria-> Cakes
LLD -> Dunn

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #710 (isolation #49) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:43 pm

In post 705, RadiantCowbells wrote:dunn is in my shortlist of DVa partners rn and you don't like my other contenders

maria/cakes is fine as a pairing to me but moreso because i'm not especially sure either are town

think sircakez got a lot of really easy townreads

notably i do think maria is town but i think it will be impossible to convince town to put her in a top 4 pairing

I'll make them see the light. I'm not wavering on Maria town, she's 100% lock for game I've seen this done this it's in the fucking bag.

Trust me here, if you want a good partner for Dva, I think Kokichi looks fucking baller.

Something like...

LLD/Dunn
Maria/Cakez
Dva/Kokichi

and then go...

Karmeleon/Moment
Short/Chibi
Gamma/Fire
Brian/Celestia

Leave out Mala.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #714 (isolation #50) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:46 pm

In post 712, RadiantCowbells wrote:kokichi hasn't done anything to deserve that townread either
aorn i think there's almost no chance I go for a pairing for DVA outside of {gamma/short/kameleon/dunn}

Kokichi's early posting looks really good in hindsight and it would have been so fucking free for him to do the troll thing and accept the invite and play backlog.

I just think Kokichi is town based on circumstance.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #717 (isolation #51) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:47 pm

I really don't wanna pair outside of Cakez and Dunn, RC. Those are my top male Town reads, and Maria's my top female town read.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #719 (isolation #52) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:47 pm

In post 716, RadiantCowbells wrote:i don't bring people to top 4 on 'town from circumstance'

mmmm

ok but you're looking at 3 people who are inherently scummier than kokichi as potential DVA partners and that's really concerning to me.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #721 (isolation #53) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:48 pm

what's your read on cakez?

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #724 (isolation #54) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:50 pm

In post 722, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 714, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Kokichi's early posting looks really good in hindsight and it would have been so fucking free for him to do the troll thing and accept the invite and play backlog.
Really? On one hand if he accepted and played backlog the first thing i'd have done would be suiciding, on the other hand it's not like he's in danger of being left out if he didnt accept.

You'd have sui'd first thing if he had?

A person who is known for making suboptimal trolly plays as town and scum?

That's an interesting take I didn't expect.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #726 (isolation #55) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:51 pm

In post 723, RadiantCowbells wrote:they're not inherently scummier than kokichi.

For real you town read Gamma Short and Karmeleon more than Kokichi!?

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #734 (isolation #56) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:54 pm

In post 731, RadiantCowbells wrote:Oh yeah gamma too is actually more of a "there are a shit load of people in this game who can read him and maybe he'll get locktowned by all of them and be cleared"

but short/dunn good stuffs.

So to be clear, and I can't believe I'm considering this because I really _Really_ think Short is scum, but

You'd be happier with

LLD/Dunn
DVA/Short
Maria/Cakez

and then doing a bunch of pair downs from there?

Still advocate a Mala leave out.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #737 (isolation #57) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:55 pm

In post 735, Sakura Hana wrote:Now that you guys are talking about Fire, i have a concern, what if he doesnt come back on time to accept a dance? or will he at least be reading enough to accept?

he's a lady this game, so it's not accepting he needs to offer. If he doesn't offer in time, 2 ladies and 1 Gent will die pre-dance.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #738 (isolation #58) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:56 pm

... no wait that's a lie, the other two could pair.

So just he would die?

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #742 (isolation #59) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:58 pm

ok, then I'm just gonna do

Dunn, would you care to dance with the Witch of Certainty?

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #745 (isolation #60) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:59 pm

DVA, you should offer a dance to short

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #748 (isolation #61) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:00 pm

In post 746, RadiantCowbells wrote:hey dva what are your thoughts on short

do you understand why i'm hard town on him

I was gonna ask if this matters but I guess there's that whole like "what if they get real paranoid and kill each other" problem we should address

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #751 (isolation #62) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:01 pm

In post 749, RadiantCowbells wrote:i rly like brian skies

He's up on my town list for a reason my dude. Equal with Kokichi.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #753 (isolation #63) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:03 pm

In post 750, MariaR wrote:I want Sakura Kokichi and Dunn to tell me how they feel about moment because I feel moments play here is night and day from BBtag

Moment vry town btw.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #756 (isolation #64) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:04 pm

's fine

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #764 (isolation #65) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:10 pm

In post 762, MariaR wrote:I'm getting that nagging little itch I got with LLD before. It could be my headache though and I should head to bed but I'll recheck in the morning. Gotta keep my 100% lld track record after all
Pedit: Correct

The itch is probably that I haven't told RC to go fuck himself yet.

I've been holding that pocket of scorn deep inside my soul this game because it's not useful.

Oh how I wihs I could be confirmed town one of these games, instead of people whose reads I don't fully trust but am kind of obliged to

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #767 (isolation #66) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:11 pm

In post 765, MariaR wrote:I need to debate if I wanna risk going with someone towny
or if I should just go with someone scummy because I think people might paranoia lynch me down the road
Right now I'm leaning the latter.

ffs you're not getting lynched this game while I'm alive.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #951 (isolation #67) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:29 am

In post 772, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 717, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I really don't wanna pair outside of Cakez and Dunn, RC. Those are my top male Town reads, and Maria's my top female town read.
Oh right, this

Ya, I'm pretty set that if we do You+Me Maria+Cakez, given RC is likely shot at intermission, we win this game.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #1046 (isolation #68) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 9:20 am

I still want to advocate we get as many pairs as possible, it's just lazy to do otherwise when we can literally kill anyone we want and get more time for our IC to make reads before intermission.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #1206 (isolation #69) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:13 pm

I hate this game now tbh.

I'm usually all about winning but like, even if town wins at this point there's really no enjoyment in it for me.

I'm so frustrated that the person who got IC is someone who is completely fucking unreasonable and hates me, so he's just straight up never going to give me a chance to play this fucking game. I'm gonna be some kind of PoE mislynch down the fucking line and maybe we win anyway but there's no fucking fun in it.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #1208 (isolation #70) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:15 pm

At this point I kind of hope I'm right about Short and Karmeleon, so that if RC loses this fucking game because of his hubris I can just laugh endlessly and point to this game forever.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #1210 (isolation #71) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:16 pm

I'm so fucking out of patience with this game. I've tried extra fucking hard to be nice and calm and like try to work with the townie person and it's just like my reads go in one ear and out the other with this dude so whatever.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #1213 (isolation #72) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:18 pm

In post 1209, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 1206, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I hate this game now tbh.

I'm usually all about winning but like, even if town wins at this point there's really no enjoyment in it for me.

I'm so frustrated that the person who got IC is someone who is completely fucking unreasonable and hates me, so he's just straight up never going to give me a chance to play this fucking game. I'm gonna be some kind of PoE mislynch down the fucking line and maybe we win anyway but there's no fucking fun in it.
I am neither completely fucking unreasonable nor do I hate you. I've attempted to gather input and the general consensus has been 'omg why are you not dictating instead of discussing'
i'm concerned that you're scum based on a few of your posts so I'm not going to autolock your pairings and I've felt like you've been attempting to set up your own counter townblock with some of your pairings with which you were going to attempt to convince town to lynch the original locktown pairings so I kinda just want you dead now, yeah

both of your hard townreads on maria and brian skies are people i want to put somewhere in the townpool (well brian skies maybe not because he refuses to pair)

MY DUDE YOU'RE GONNA BE FUCKIHNG DEAD AT INTERMISSION.

MY JOB IS TO TAKE THIS GAME HOME WHEN SURPRISE IT TURNS OUT YOU WERE WRONG ABOUT PEOPLE.

OF COURSE I'M TRYING TO FUCKING SORT TOWNREADS FOR WHEN YOU DIE AbkaDahsA
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SO BLIND

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #1215 (isolation #73) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:19 pm

I AM NOT GOING TO LYNCH IN SOME KIND OF ORDER YOU DECIDE. YOU ARE BEING GIVEN SOME CONTROL BECAUSE YOU ARE TOWN AND I TRUST YOUR READ ON SOME PEOPLE. I AM NOT CEDING MY FUCKING VOTE TO YOU AS WELL.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #1218 (isolation #74) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:20 pm

In post 1214, RadiantCowbells wrote:ok

don't pair LLD

FUCK.

YOU.

THIS IS AN OPEN OFFER TO EVERY GENTLEMAN IN THE GAME TO PAIR WITH ME. WHO WANTS TO STICK IT IN HIS FUCKING FACE WITH ME FOR A WHLE?

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #1219 (isolation #75) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:20 pm

I DON'T EVEN CARE IF I GET LYNCHED OR PAIRED WITH SOMENOE SCUMMY AT THIS POINT IT'S ABOUT BEING FUCKING UNWILLING TO DEAL WITH HIM

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #1221 (isolation #76) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:21 pm

In post 1220, RadiantCowbells wrote:LLD is now 100% scum. she is probably going to get a buddy to pair with her.

This is why you're bad at this game, ftr.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #1223 (isolation #77) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:23 pm

HEY BRIAN WANNA ACCEPT MY OFFER AND LEAVE RIGHT AFTER INTERMISSION?

JSUT SO I CAN STICK IT IN THIS ASSHOLE'S CRAW?

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #1224 (isolation #78) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:23 pm

CAUSE I DON'T CARE ABOUT LIVING.

AT THIS POINT WHATEVER ANNOYS RC MORE IS BETTER

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #1229 (isolation #79) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:24 pm

I'M SUPPOSED TO CARE ABOUT HOW RC WILL LOSE US THIS GAME OR SOMETHING BUT

OH WELL GUESS I'M GAME THROWING

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #1236 (isolation #80) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:26 pm

In post 1232, DVa wrote:Lld doesnt rc agree with ur read of short?

And I thought karm was in the middle for you and hes in the high middle for rc

Where is this huge divide in reads?

I think Short is scum.

What?

I've made several reads lsits.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #1239 (isolation #81) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:28 pm

In post 1235, Gamma Emerald wrote:RC I think you need to take a step back from the game for a while

RC is too arrogant to do this. Now that I've told him how I actually feel he'll just say he can perfectly read me (he can't) and I'm 100% scum (I'm not) until I die and when I flip town he'll just go "oh well doesn't matter she needed to die anyway".

So if this happens I hope we fucking lose tbh.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #1242 (isolation #82) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:28 pm

In post 1238, DVa wrote:I thought you said to pair short with me?

It was an acquiescence to IC town RC who has them as their top town read and since I can't convince him, I was just like "Sure fuck it just do it I'll fix your mistakes when you're dead and I don't need to deal with your incompetence".

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #1244 (isolation #83) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:29 pm

In post 1240, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 1235, Gamma Emerald wrote:RC I think you need to take a step back from the game for a while
I don't?

I just need LLD to die.

OH LOOK

I'M A PROPHET.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #1247 (isolation #84) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:30 pm

In post 1246, RadiantCowbells wrote:If Gamma pairs LLD he's scumclaiming

Oh please do it Gamma. Let's ride into the sunset middle fingers in the fucking air.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #1255 (isolation #85) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:34 pm

Just one of these games I really want to be IC.

So I can fucking play without having to deal with Biggus Dickus over here thinking he can read me.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #1258 (isolation #86) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:35 pm

In post 1254, MariaR wrote:I didn't even know you could ask everyone....god it's prom all over again.

YO MARIA.

HIT ME UP WITH SOME OF THAT 100% READ ON LLD ACTION.

KAPPA.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #1261 (isolation #87) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:35 pm

In post 1257, Kokichi Oma wrote:50 pages before the game really starts, jeez

Yo Kokichi

Wanna dance with me~?

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #1270 (isolation #88) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:37 pm

In post 1262, MariaR wrote:
In post 1258, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 1254, MariaR wrote:I didn't even know you could ask everyone....god it's prom all over again.
YO MARIA.

HIT ME UP WITH SOME OF THAT 100% READ ON LLD ACTION.

KAPPA.
IS THIS REALLY THE TIME SISTER.

WHY YES I THINK IT IS SISTER

CAUSE HONESTLY I THINK MY HEAD MIGHT EXPLODE

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #1271 (isolation #89) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:38 pm

In post 1269, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 1267, Dunnstral wrote:Also why does every game have to be so angry
lld has to make it angry to win

First true words out of your mouth.

Turns out no one will listen to me unless I speak the fuck up and stand up for myself. Playing nice as town apparently will never work so WHO FUCKING CARES

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #1275 (isolation #90) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:41 pm

In post 1272, MariaR wrote:
In post 1267, Dunnstral wrote:Also why does every game have to be so angry
Fuck you whiny bitch go sit in the corner B)
Pedit: I GET IT LLD DW

Can we play a real game after this one Maria

This game makes me want to disembowel myself.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #1279 (isolation #91) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:42 pm

In post 1274, DVa wrote:
In post 1273, ChibiBear wrote:
In post 1248, DVa wrote:
In post 1241, shortaru wrote:Chibi took your #2 slot, DVa.
See this is why I dont want to pair with short
Wait, can you elaborate on this? I think I'm missing something here.

He is bringing up something I clearly already knew and being a downer about it

Like this post.

This is a great example of other things I have an issue with in this game.

Like, great, awesome. He did a thing you have a view on his actions now tell me what the motivation and insight behind those actions are.

Give me a read, town or scum, on why he'd do that.

TAKE THE LEAP. IT'S OK. YOU CAN MAKE INFERRENCES./

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #1282 (isolation #92) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:43 pm

In post 1276, shortaru wrote:
In post 1248, DVa wrote:
In post 1241, shortaru wrote:Chibi took your #2 slot, DVa.
See this is why I dont want to pair with short
RC made that call, I didn't.

Read back. I was just recapping.

That anyone thinks this slot is town is still beyond the fucking pale for me. Like really.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #1289 (isolation #93) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:47 pm

In post 1287, Sakura Hana wrote:This thread just exploded.
Well i was sus of LLD so this is fine for me.

So, in inches, to the nearest 10th, exactly how far up RC's ass is your head btw?

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #1291 (isolation #94) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:47 pm

In post 1288, MariaR wrote:
In post 1285, RadiantCowbells wrote:if you pair dunn i probably can't put you in townblock maria
Don't really care.

YO HIGH FIVE

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #1296 (isolation #95) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:48 pm

In post 1292, MariaR wrote:
In post 1291, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 1288, MariaR wrote:
In post 1285, RadiantCowbells wrote:if you pair dunn i probably can't put you in townblock maria
Don't really care.
YO HIGH FIVE
Watch me get called scum now too AYYY

THAT WOULD BE PRICELESS.

TBH HIS ENTIRE TOWNBLOCK IS PEOPLE WHO HE CAN CONTROL.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #1297 (isolation #96) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:49 pm

In post 1293, RadiantCowbells wrote:maria is scum now too!

EYYYYy

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #1299 (isolation #97) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:49 pm

Yo, Maria.

Bad Bitches on patrol rn

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #1305 (isolation #98) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:50 pm

In post 1298, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1284, MariaR wrote:Dunn if I asked you to dance rn would you say yes.
I mean, probably, I don't think it's towns best shot at winning though

Agreed. I think you and I and MAria+Cakez remains the smartest move.

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #1306 (isolation #99) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:50 pm

In post 1304, RadiantCowbells wrote:i just wanted to see who would react scummy to it and sircakez reacted scummy to it i think

YO IT'S THE THIRD.

WAIT FOR IT MARIA HE'S GONNA SCUMREAD DUNNSTRAL NTOO

Lady Lambdadelta · Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:56 pm

In post 1314, shortaru wrote:I mean, I hate suicides but at the same time LLD is just sowing chaos.

WHO THE FUCK TOWNREADS THIS NONSENSE I SWEAR

Lady Lambdadelta · Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:57 pm

In post 1320, shortaru wrote:
In post 1313, DVa wrote:I'm still enjoying this game even though I'm no longer RC's golden girl

tbh I'm just really digging this playerlist.
Silver is still a hell of a metal.

I prefer it, personally. But that might just be the Nevada in me talking.

OH MY GOD

Lady Lambdadelta · Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:59 pm

In post 1324, Kokichi Oma wrote:Who do I have to choose from to dance with?

Because you're a boy and women have no agency we just fall into the arms of anyoen who will catch us

because you have to

Lady Lambdadelta · Tue Oct 30, 2018 7:01 pm

In post 1332, RadiantCowbells wrote:i vote we exclude LLD so that if she flips town we have a day phase to see if we want to seriously reevaluate any of our other reads based on her flipping town.

Oh look.

Here's more evidence he doesn't actually scum read me he just doesn't want any challenges to his authority.

I hate this game.

Lady Lambdadelta · Tue Oct 30, 2018 7:02 pm

I'm gonna go drink myself into a coma, if any boys with half a brain... or half a heart of courage, want to pair with me hit me up yo

Lady Lambdadelta · Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:33 am

Oh fun people don't read the game and call me "outed scum".

I'm fucking town, think for yourselves.

Lady Lambdadelta · Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:06 am

Yeah come dance with me cakez

:/

Lady Lambdadelta · Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:45 am

Given I'm town and Cakez is town that seems stupid. At least force the scum fucks to show their votes instead of hiding behind RC's arrogance.

Lady Lambdadelta · Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:31 am

In post 1629, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1627, Firebringer wrote:
In post 1621, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1617, Firebringer wrote:i want cakez but he turned me down.
Fire you haven’t engaged me on my response to your apprehensions to pairing with me
also to answer ur post:
i don't want to pair with you, thats about it.
Well you think I’m Town right? So wouldn’t you want to pair with me?

Pair with me instead, I think you're town.

I think scum is probably within

Karmelon/Short/Mala/Celestia

Lady Lambdadelta · Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:38 am

In post 1633, Gamma Emerald wrote:And I’d rather not pair with you LLD, though I do see some ways it can help if I do, I’s still prefer not to

Look you're gonna end up dying anyway. Pairing with me gives you the opportunity to read me in private thread, take my reads and parse them with your own, and maybe actually lynch some scum instead of letting RC piss a town win away.

Right now you can't just sit back and hope to pair with someone who might let you live a while. You're not slated to live. As a result, pair with me.

Lady Lambdadelta · Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:39 am

As it stands you're invited to pair with me at any time, so.

It's on you, but the clock is ticking.

Lady Lambdadelta · Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:41 am

the tl;dr of this is

Grow some backbone and let's get some actual work done.

If you want a hard promise from me, here's one.

Regardless of how things go, I promise to voluntarily leave the dance immediately after intermission

Lady Lambdadelta · Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:42 am

and if I don't, well, you can leave on me for being scum.

Lady Lambdadelta · Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:44 am

So effectively the outcomes are as follows

1) we're lynched after we get more reads out, and we get to see votes and how they fall (helps town after our death)
2) we lynch scum and then I leave after intermission, saying some final words and proving I'm town.
3) I'm scum and I'm lying about my promise, at which point I die anyway because you get to force leave.
4) we're BOTH scum (not possible from either of our perspectives) and we get lynched by the town for not leaving after intermission.

Seems preeeeeeeeeeeeeeeety locked down

Lady Lambdadelta · Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:45 am

In post 1639, Gamma Emerald wrote:You’re my last resort pick
There’s still Moment on the table who while I suspect them too, they’re less contentious, and I think I’d like to talk to them a bit about why they’re reading me they way they do
PEdit: if I pair up I don’t want either of the people in my pair to leave. I’d rsther be ejected via lynch, as that helps solve the game more.

I agree with the lynch part it's why I'm desperate to pair.

That said, post intermission the game will be less lynch dependent. The paranoia caused by us being alive at that point (since it means we won't have been lynched) will be too much fo a distraction for scum to hide behind.

Do you understand?

Lady Lambdadelta · Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:46 am

Lady Lambdadelta · Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:49 am

I'm also fine with Myself and Cakez and Fire and Gamma, but I think Cakez is way too town to waste on my inevitable death sooooooooooooooooooooo

Lady Lambdadelta · Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:50 am

In post 1647, Karmeleon wrote:Are you confident enough Fire is town?

He's done nothing but troll and dance around and not try and get paired remotely.

I think he's probably town by exclusion.

Lady Lambdadelta · Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:23 am

In post 1663, Karmeleon wrote:
In post 1659, RadiantCowbells wrote:That's not what I said Karmeleon

LLD survived after I die Firebringer comes in and says he refused to vote LLD because he wants to spite me, game gets muddled, LLD despite bad scum play convinces a bunch of bad townies she's town and town loses an unlosable game.
What about Gamma though? Unless you think he's scum, likely he will leave the dance with LLD.

He's just looking to use whatever bad logic he can to satisfy his hate boner and control issues.

At this point, ignoring him is the best play.

Lady Lambdadelta · Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:33 pm

Cakez, come dance with me so I can actually help town win this game please god

Lady Lambdadelta · Fri Nov 02, 2018 6:01 pm

In post 1725, Malakittens wrote:I mean LLD I reached out to you and all I got was being ignored so idk how that’s helpingntown

WE

ARE

BOTH

LADIES

???

Lady Lambdadelta · Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:40 pm

The game was to abuse RC's arrogance and attempt to get Short into the last pairing. I feel like maybe if Short plays it right and doesn't replace out it maybe works. I just knew neither Fire nor I were living to endgame in a game where RC is Innocent Child, regardless of either of our alignments tbh.

So I just played to ruin every connective tell in the fucking game. And I did a pretty ok job at it.

Lady Lambdadelta · Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:42 pm

LLD in scumthread wrote:Short I have a new wincon.

It's called put you into the finals via RC's arrogance and have us win off his "strongest town read".

I'm just gonna make as much noise as possible

Lady Lambdadelta · Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:43 pm

I'm really shocked people think I'm somehow above sacrificing myself when the situation calls for it. I'm a very very flexible scumplayer. >.>

Lady Lambdadelta · Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:47 pm

In post 2545, Firebringer wrote:I believe in you!

I am leaving the dance. Gamma ruined my story

If I lost the game, I blame RC.

Also this is stupid why would you do this

As scum you should really never leave the dance unless it strictly advances the wincon of another scum player and this definitely didn't do that.

You should have fought a bit harder to place doubt.

Lady Lambdadelta · Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:49 pm

Anyway, gg town. I'd love to play scum in a game where I don't have to deal with a dictator who will literally never allow me anywhere near his town block even if I was town.

It's why I was so hoping Short would stick the game out and win so I could shove it in RC's face that I conned him into letting a fucking newbie like Short get past his VAUNTED SCUMHUNTING SKILLS.

Lady Lambdadelta · Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:35 pm

In post 2631, Gamma Emerald wrote:Um, LLD, short wasn’t a newb.

Oh well rip.

he wrote like a newbie and played the newbie card this agme so

Lady Lambdadelta · Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:21 am

<3 Maria

always fun to play with you