Witches' Halloween Ball [Game Over]

[SirCakez]

I'm busy today so y'all better not spam to 50 billion pages

[SirCakez]

I'm busy today so y'all better not spam to 50 billion pages

How could we possibly spam this?

Same way we'd spam up any game
That said this is an acceptable start pace

[SirCakez]

Fuck I told you guys not to spam
Well I can't catch up til tonight sorry

[SirCakez]

All right I'm doing a phone catch up wheeee

[SirCakez]

NOTES ON A SCANDAL
-Mala seems kinda scummy early on, looking for RC approval and the typical scumline of "why am I town". Others noticed this.
-Fuck you guys for having a pointless dick measuring contest @Fire and LLD
-Moment 110 scummy as hell

Still have 7 pages to go but lots of NAI stuff in what I read which blows. Brb.

[SirCakez]

Ok I'm back, was doing something with the bro

[SirCakez]

-confessing now I'm skimming walls this game @moment/LLD
-fire could be considered VI but he's not scum. At least from what I'm reading. LLD is also prob town (although that interaction was dumb AF).
-No idea what to make of Karma. Or sho. Or Kokichi. Or Sakura. Fuck I can never read the latter two.
-I still dislike Moment. I feel like there's a lotta empty questions coming from him and fake town telling.
-I can already tell I'm gonna need to do a ton of ISOing this game bleh. Also I'm not really accounting for the game mechanics ATM.
-I would go with Maria for dancing ATM because tonally she sounds legit, I haven't really looked at the lady list tho.

Quotes I nabbed while reading:

I have Brian and Mala (until she obvtown up) as scum right now.

These are the two easiest scumreads in the game right now which irks me.

SirCakez expected us to scumside?

What

SirCakez is gonna be pretty mad

You bet!

Slow the f down

RC knows what's up

I'm gonna try to be moar organized now.

[SirCakez]

Looking at the lady list I'd be ok with LLD (b/c she looks town) and DVA/Sakura (b/c I'm indifferent on them and can seppuku bomb them later if needed). Don't want fire even tho he seems town since unfortunately he's probably gonna bite it earlier then later and I think this is gonna be a fun game
Celestia/Chibi = who?

[SirCakez]

And then maria obv

[SirCakez]

Why do games always die when I show up q.q

[SirCakez]

Hi yes people

[SirCakez]

Maria I think it's juuuuuust too early to accept ya know?
Sakura your ISO claiming to be hard to read is literally my thoughts on you every game we play.

[SirCakez]

I mostly agree with your lady picks besides Sakura but I disagree with your logic. I don't think you should match yourself with someone you think is scummy because that means we lose you. (At least that's what I assumed when you said dance with dva/sakura)

I don't think they are scummy, I think they could go either way. But for both I think they are tougher lynches so I'd be ready to off them if necessary.

LLD's sort of taking command looked town to me. I don't think she takes that tone as scum from my (admitedly vague) meta recollections.

Sorry Fire BBY but your rage against the machine pairing plan is definitely VI.
P-edit: indeed true lol @sakura
P-p-edit: I'm used to CONSTANT posting like this pace right now @DVA

ALSO LET ME POST
P-p-p-edit: FUCK

[SirCakez]

lol you guys took my comment about the game dying to heart a little too much

[SirCakez]

Why do games always die when I show up q.q

Hi

I can bomb you with more weird posts if you want

Hey
Define weird and I could potentially be interested

Also sorry Fire but youre wrong on this one

[SirCakez]

Why are people shitting on me this game?
I expect LLD but the rest of you, really?

Transphobia?

What

[SirCakez]

ok do it but less spammy
like no more triple posting
P-edit: QUADRUPLE
@karma

[SirCakez]

Cakez is hilarious!

I'm being enabled by CERTAIN people

[SirCakez]

What could I even be crumbing lmao

[SirCakez]

Also sorry Fire but youre wrong on this one

How so

On the pairing thing - it's definitely better for it to be controlled then a shitshow.

[SirCakez]

Kokichi how do I read u

[SirCakez]

Yo I have been following along today but obviously I took the L on actually commenting. Will try to write up some thoughts and reread.

[SirCakez]

Random shit that's mostly irrelevant:

U leave it to maria, cakez
Unless u think Maria is scum

Then ur kind of tucked

This might be what I end up doing no joke.

I can see through you firepup.

I mean you and cakez are the only ones besides RC I would want to share a PT with and actually post in lol

yay fire loves me

Kokichi how do I read u

Always townread me. That way even if you're wrong you can say that you were tricked by the Ultimate liar and you won't feel as bad after

I'll take a pass on this "tactic"

-confessing now I'm skimming walls this game @moment/LLD

I don't post "walls".

Mini-walls then

The only read related thought I got re-reading that was Chibi's readslist on this page was terrible. Didn't go as far to call anybody scummy, always fencesitting and neutral leans. Very very safe.
Lots of spam posting and stuff I can't read otherwise.

Also btw fun fact I'm already deathly paranoid RC is scumreading me ,due to the post where he alluded to a townread player being a scumread, and gonna deathtunnel me. Which would be ass I fucking hate being tunneled by RC.

Honestly I'm prob gonna be sheeping a good amount this game, there are several players I have no clue how to read (especially Sakura/Kokichi) and I'm way less confident in my mafia skills then I used to be due to all my breaks from playing.
/Useless wall of "content"

[SirCakez]

Fuck you guys for posting 8 pages overnight

[SirCakez]

Also btw fun fact I'm already deathly paranoid RC is scumreading me ,due to the post where he alluded to a townread player being a scumread, and gonna deathtunnel me.

Why do you think it's you?

B/c RC has a tendency to scumread and push me day 1

I've had enough of this.

@Kokichi: If you accept im going to suicide as soon as first dance starts, so dont accept.

Just leave me to die if you guys are going to hung over my head all my past scum wins.

Who was even scumreading you so hard Sakura? This seemed a bit extreme altho it's been resolved now I suppose.
Literally that thing has been my stigma for as long as I have memory on MS.[/quote]

Can cakez go with Sakura

This has already been tied up but ftr I prob wouldn't have gone for this unless sakura had dropped the suicidal tendencies.

What's everyones Short reads?

Because that's my first impulse in terms of a DVa partner

I could kill it. Their posting earlier was ok but haven't seen anything town-esque later on.

I don't like short's 770. Felt too hop-on-y, if that makes sense. Lol I keep finding scummy posts on the current page when I catch up.
@RC who is your "big scumread on a universally townread townie"? Now that you've laid cards on the table I don't think I saw who that actually was.

[SirCakez]

YOU GUYS DID IT AGAIN WHILE I WAS AT WORK WHY

[SirCakez]

I don't like short's 770. Felt too hop-on-y, if that makes sense.

Considering I said it first in 747, it doesn't make sense at all.

What you said in that post and the "hop-on" post were different-ish. One is "I'm newb I don't trust myself" and one is "ya I'mma sheep too!"

Fuck you guys for posting 8 pages overnight

I did nothing

But now you're guilty for spamming today with quad posts.

What really bothers me is the fact my name has been tossed a bunch with me being thrown in as being scummy with half the players not giving a reason, nor has anyone really tired to include or engage me which really pisses me off.

This is so vague. Who are the "players" pissing you off?

Dance with me Cakez, we will play games all night long!

I'd rather not ur doomed to die early

I like the Gamma/Fire pairing. Gamma could go either way and Fire could easily be faking his town game here now that I think about it.
I still dislike Moment. Nothing he says feels like real town. Shortaru not great either. Mala vaguely leans scum but that could easily be flipped the other way. I think it's pretty shaky how Mala has devolved into a near-universal scumread without much comment at all. Pre-flip associatives suck tho. Also losing confidence on Karma. I just did a quick ISO and it's full of useless fluff and stuff that looks like he's trying to pretend to be "contributing". Those four are my hate pool for now.

Maria and DVA have solidified as townreads. Not really seeing Chibi strong townreads. Maybe a weak town lean.
A lot of this is going off my gut and tone fyi

[SirCakez]

I'd rather not ur doomed to die early

why do you think this?

b/c your playstyle
and like you said you always leave which I didn't even know until now so my point is further proved

What you said in that post and the "hop-on" post were different-ish. One is "I'm newb I don't trust myself" and one is "ya I'mma sheep too!"

No. We were both saying we were new, unsure of ourselves, and promising to follow whatever plan was agreed upon.

ehhh I could see that

[SirCakez]

Well, apparently SirCakez loves quadrupleposting, so this is it.

Good night

die potato

Also have Dunn mentioning my name serveral times. I'm only up to page 25 for quotes. Anyways going to bed, might be why i'm so pissed off because i havent been sleeping well again,

ty for this post, makes me feel better about you.

TL;DR

lol
I kinda skimmed the wall and it was pretty bad. A lot of fluff and "this happened then this happened" but not actually much real content. At least they dropped some reads.

[SirCakez]

eyy i have page top
great spot to drop that readslist requested!

From most town to least town

Town

RC (duh)
LLD
Maria
DVA

Town lean

Brian Skies
Chibi
Fire
Mala (very barely)

Unsure

Sakura/Kokichi (can't read either)
Dunn (same as Gamma pretty much)
Gamma (can't remember jack that they've posted tbh)

Scumlean

Celestia (barely due to that bad wall dropped on the previous page)
Shortaru
Karma

Scum

Moment

[SirCakez]

Another 15 pages I'm dead
Can I not be paired with my top scumread ty

[SirCakez]

Hey Cakez, can you expand on the nature of your reads for these 4 players: LLD, Fire, Shortaru, and Karma?

Are your reads for those players based on tone or based on content? Can you point to the posts that are townie for LLD and Fire, and the posts that you see as most scummy for Shortaru and Karma?

LLD and Fire are a mix of meta and tone, though I think Fire could possibly be faking his "idon'tgiveashit" playstyle here so that's not very strong.
Shortaru's constant awkwardness and "IDK what to do" feels like fish-out-of-water scum, but I could also be wrong here, kinda losing confidence on this scumread.
Karma's ISO is just terrible which I mentioned earlier. I can grab some posts after I finish catchup.

people are really fucking awful about how they approach people that they can't read, scumreading them no matter what they do if they're town and have to legitimately scumhunt, and it ruins mafia.

This is why I just throw up my hands and let other people do the work for me on certain players i;e sakura

[SirCakez]

Cakez say yes to me so we can lurk out and not have to read the rest of this ty.

Can I do this instead of Moment @RC

i just wanted to see who would react scummy to it and sircakez reacted scummy to it i think

eyyy this is happening

So I thought on this a little bit, and ran some game digging on one of the games I about to reference.

Say hello to the newest product developed my Gamma’s Mafia Theorycraft Enterprises, the Scumblock Buster!

So recall how I said “RC’s Deplorables”? That was based on a funny moment from The Thing Mafia. It became a code name for a group going against the main town leader/s. Here’s the thing: both times I’ve chronicled a major case of it, scum was inside that group opposing the town leader.
The thing Mafia: Andrius, ErrantParabola, and MoI were scum in the group
Large 203: Nosferatu and mulch* were part of the group
So I’m concluding that among LLD’s rogues gallery is at least one mafia.

Holy shit I can't believe anyone still remembers this game

I have to reevaluate LLD after that rage posting. That's typical of her as scum isn't it?
5 more pages to go

[SirCakez]

Spoiler:

I don't think scum Sakura opens the game saying she doesn't expect to be in a T-T pair and then picks Kokichi to the dance (and Kokichi getting stood up in a previous dance, or claiming to, does play a factor into my read here). I think Sakura mostly didn't want to get left out, and her outburst yelling at Kokichi not to accept her invitation so she can die without even trying for a different dance partner further makes me think this. I haven't really thought much deeper than this other than just not seeing scum motivation in her actions thus far (and I've indicated this on at least one occasion this game).

661 is my direct response to the question Sakura posed in 660, to which RC actually explained in 662.

I didn't include Sakura in my readslist beacuse I don't think she's scum and even if she is, I consider it RC's problem now. Like, her goal this game has been what, to not get excluded and not even try for an endgame pairing? Why would I think this is scum?

Right now, the goal should be making other T-T pairs. I've been withholding a lot of my thoughts because I have no intention of even accepting a dance partner (unless RC just really really wants a specific flip to comment on before scum potentially nightkill him). Also, in my opinion, RC should figure out what his most towniest second T-T pairing is (which is the one he's working on right now) and then work with said pair to set the game up in a way that best suits whichever of the two pairs doesn't get nightkilled.

Regarding Kokichi, the reason I don't think he's scum is that I felt he was a little enthused to see Sakura ask him to the dance, and I feel like my explanation to him regarding her proposal may have taken some of the wind out of his sails. Of course, I have since realized that it's possible he's scum here who wanted to shoot down the Sakura invitation so he could get a better endgame pairing, but I just don't really think that's the case.

this is i think an 100% locktown post

This was also the post that made me put Brian into town lean FYI

Shortaru's constant awkwardness and "IDK what to do" feels like fish-out-of-water scum, but I could also be wrong here, kinda losing confidence on this scumread.

I mean, considering the differences between this game and Mafia, I pretty much ALL a fish out of water. I'm trying to familiarize myself with forum based Mafia, then I stumble into something that turns into what could be considered a cousin to the game at best? Yeah, I'm kinda lost.

But why would that make me scum?

B/c I feel like awk new scum are more likely to post a lot of weird things to "appear active", if that makes sense. But I don't really know you as a player so that could be wrong. RC's strong townread on you has me worried.

[SirCakez]

@DVA:
Karma: pretty much his entire ISO, I just went in to try to grab some posts but there were too many. just tons of useless posts and spam.
Fire:

Spoiler:

Come on people this is like pregame no serious business

This is for shit posts and trolling only

It really will not be hard.

I promise if you pair out of order or early to spite us we will lynch you because it's anti-town. I don't care if you decide to do it as town as some kind of "message that yuo can't control people"

The fact is you don't need to flip mafia to be working for the scum.

Ur not controlling me

Ur not controlling anyone.

I ain’t ur sub

I don’t particularly care about being anti town and you know that so why we having this discussion, do you really think YOU can intimidate me?

You're a pretty big VI.

I am a village intelligent, thank you

Why are people shitting on me this game?
I expect LLD but the rest of you, really?

Actually I expect Maria to do it too.

I am hurt by cakes and I am unsure what to think of Sakura here, I am not sure why she is one dimensionally reading me

LLD:

Spoiler:

Most importantly I'd like there two be at least two unquestionably TvT pairings that don't include me and I'd like to dance with ideally low priority nightkill town as well

My thoughts on this setup after playing it the first time is that we should go for


3 pairings of the most townie people with townie people (one is gonna die to scum's nightkill, and if we rely too heavily on being right for sure on the other one we can be screwed. Odds are we find at least one T+T pairing in the remaining 2).

Then we pair the remaining groups wiht the following values in mind:

Most townie remaining Lady -> Least Townie remaining Gent

by definition it'll create some TvT pairings but I think more importantly, it allows for us to put high trust targets with low trust targets. I also considered doing like 3 bad with bads for them to agree to die, but basically we need to have pairings where we can read them while also relying that there is a solid town person able to leave the dance if necessary.

We absolutely can control people's pairings. If you pair out of order, you die via lynch. Prerogative of the town. It takes two to tango, which means if you pair out of order, then two people agreed to do awful thing and that icnreases the odds at least one of you is scum.

So yeah, death for anyone who pairs early or pairs outside plan.

We absolutely can control people's pairings. If you pair out of order, you die via lynch. Prerogative of the town. It takes two to tango, which means if you pair out of order, then two people agreed to do awful thing and that icnreases the odds at least one of you is scum.

So yeah, death for anyone who pairs early or pairs outside plan.

Good luck with that

It really will not be hard.

I promise if you pair out of order or early to spite us we will lynch you because it's anti-town. I don't care if you decide to do it as town as some kind of "message that yuo can't control people"

The fact is you don't need to flip mafia to be working for the scum.

LLD, would you mind explaining to me what's "obviously scum" about Karmeleon's response in 106?

It misrepresents my point.

My point was his early posts and reactions were bad and tonally sounded like I've explained before. Then, I had a moment of pause, considering his join date (similar to Shotoko or whatveer you spell it).

So I asked if he was a hydra or alt, to determine whether he was new or experienced.

His line here suggests I am asking it based on some kind of inane reason that isn't relevant, so it's dodging the actual accusation, clearly that I was aiming for his experience level, in favour of trying to subvert the issue.

On its own, no one post is scum, but the reaction+tone+further posting once I began to lock him as scum in my mind has continued to line up.

I even mentioned that one of the posts looks bad but is likely alignment non indicative, but the other one looks scum. I think the words I used were "we are getting a preponderance of the evidence that this person is scum". Basically I'm saying "his posts add up to this, no one post is the single reason, but he has a ton of bad posts here is why they are bad".

Does this translate?

Breeding apathy, no spice... why do you townread that post?

"Breeding apathy"? I think your thoughts of how scum play are far too grand. I think very infrequently do scum actually have some kind of master plan like that, and even if they did I sincerely doubt that it would take the form of a single two line post among a sea of other spam. I think if you consider the mindset behind that post, it shows an element of frustration; Brian thinks that one or more of us are being stupid and doesn't exactly want to jump into the thread. Dealing with people who you think are being stupid is often a chore as town, but as scum can give you the opportunity to be LAMIST, to over-explain things, and to basically write a lot of words without really having to come up with anything truly difficult to come up with.

Of course, I wouldn't place a huge amount of strength into a read based on that single post, but in a vacuum I'd say it's more likely to come from town that scum. At the very least, I don't think your reasons for scumreading it are particularly reliable.

Ok, first off my dude?

Dude joined the site like 2 weeks ago and I don't know his experience level but "I think your thoughts of how scum play are far too grand" is like, not helpful.

Second off, he's right and you're wrong. Scum plan, scum plot, scum have intentions and attack vectors.

Intentionality and motivation are a huge part of finding scum and rooting them out and the fact that you think that scum creating apathy isn't a weapon in their arsenal, let alone one of their best ones in a game mode like this, then boy have I got a bridge in brooklyn I'd love to sell you.

Short:

Spoiler:

Honestly, I'm just like... >< this close to simply replacing it because the way DVa talks about me is pretty shitty.

You're competing with Karmeleon, Brian Skies, and Dunn dude

don't take it personally

Honestly, that doesn't excuse talking about me like that but idc.

I'm just here to point and click vote.

RadiantCowbells - duh
Gamma Emerald - I think town?
Dunnstral - scummy
Karmeleon - meh
SirCakez - scummy (or is it just grouchy?)

MariaR - towny, would dance
DVa - Radiant says town, so town
Moment - towny, would dance
Sakura Hana - towny would dance (but alas, she has her sights elsewhere)
Firebringer - I can't get a read on this... everything in me screams scum, but wtf would scum be so blatant for?
Lady Lambdadelta - scummy

what here has changed short?

TBH, I'm not even working on my reads much this game because I'm just doing what I'm told IRT lynches and whatnot.

Radiant says you're town, so I'm just gonna tag along with your votes after he is dead.

I mean, I hate suicides but at the same time LLD is just sowing chaos.

Radiant, it's not that I don't your read on Chibi... I just think that it would be better for the game if she actually townread her partner.

I'll pair with whomever you want, just voicing my concerns.

ye I'm definitely less sure on short scum after that ISO

[SirCakez]

I'll be here tomorrow morning

[SirCakez]

We're swamped to fuck at work but I'll attempt a quick catchup

[SirCakez]

Ok not much to actually read thankfully

Kokichi Oma
SirCakez
Karmeleon

Moment
Malakittens
Princess Celestia
Lady Lambdadelta are our remainders

If I have to choose someone here, I'd go with Mala

Id support this

Karma: pretty much his entire ISO, I just went in to try to grab some posts but there were too many. just tons of useless posts and spam.

Having this kind of thought is a bad signal. Not just for this game. It could reflect on your life choices.

Disgusting

sircakez that's kind of the point

i believe that you're not scum together based on your interactions and that's good enough to lock the game as a win by pairing you

But then I can't push him...
I mean I can but I'm not ready to die..

If I'm going to get lynched I'd rather pair up with Gamma so that I can at least feel a little better about it. Maria seemed to want to pair up with Cakez, anyways.

Thoughts on that, RC?

I also support moment/gamma.

Not really much to say honestly
TFW I was waiting for Rx to approve my dance with Maria and then get ditched. Just like irl q.q

[SirCakez]

No new content from me until mid afternoon tomorrow
Feel like I just got run over by a bus

[SirCakez]

In post 1539, RadiantCowbells wrote:
sircakez that's kind of the point

i believe that you're not scum together based on your interactions and that's good enough to lock the game as a win by pairing you

But then I can't push him...
I mean I can but I'm not ready to die..

i mean you do lynch her, you just lynch her as the third last group

Sircakez if you're town this is autowin if you pair moment

:/
if you're so sure I guess I can
PT will suck lol

Yeah come dance with me cakez
would that I could...
:/

fk you fire
toxic trashbag

THIS

Same cake same

*off topic* yeah fuck 12 hours days, at least I'll get overtime, sorry for you *end off topic*

None of my reads are changing, I'll see if anything changes my mind and accept something before day end.

[SirCakez]

I could go mala
Karma/moment would be an excellent lynch target

[SirCakez]

Moment/karma pls

[SirCakez]

accept mala dance request

[SirCakez]

TFW my top two scumreads were town and one of my townleans was scum
Obviously I have to reevaluate but im off to work now

[SirCakez]

hey I'm alive

[SirCakez]

HURT: kokichi/celestia[/vote]
is my first instinct, I don't TR either and both have been non-presences all game. Seems like likely scum place to be.
Gamma/Fire can go too.

I was reading Moment scum b/c all of their posts seemed really fake and trying to look like a proto-typical townie. I guess it's just how they post in general. @whoever asked

Yeah it's more Cakez I was thinking has decent equity. As I said I think highest scum equity is in Gamma/Firebringer, so if we're outside of that we're kinda looking for a needle in a haystack. If scumteam is Cakez/{Gamma/FB}/LLD then Cakez might have kinda stopped caring about this game so while he might be busy he maybe is also not really trying because of that.

17 hours of work between today and yesterday hurt
But I'm here now!

I didn't like 349, 774, 1763, & 1836.

I'm still down for supporting Radiant's & DVa's pushes when they differ from mine, just giving my take.

Where was this dislike pre-dance? Seems very sudden which really irks me.

why would you not be

I haven't posted in ~36 hours

[SirCakez]

fucked that hurt tag oh well
VOTE: kokichi/princess
have a vote instead

[SirCakez]

Where was this dislike pre-dance? Seems very sudden which really irks me.

I pretty much had this game tuned out pre-dance because I was wrapping up my newbie game (perfect town win, fun times) and you experienced players were talking a bunch of stuff I couldn't begin to relate to anyway.

what makes us more relatable now? lol

I was reading Moment scum b/c all of their posts seemed really fake and trying to look like a proto-typical townie. I guess it's just how they post in general.

I said this, I'm sure of it

what

[SirCakez]

what makes us more relatable now? lol

I was in a game where my content actually mattered, whereas in this one everybody was just enjoying a popularity contest which, since I'm pretty much brand new, simply couldn't enjoy participating in.

Between the chumming around, meta talk, strategy discussion that I'm completely unfamiliar with, and bring angled into a pairing with somebody that has been nothing but abrasive to me, I just said fuck it and decided to agree with whatever.

I'm still not invested in this game... but I'm trying to care more now that it's not as much of a huge circle jerk with the pairings decided.

This makes sense I suppose.
Can u be more specific about what you disliked?

[SirCakez]

what makes us more relatable now? lol

I was in a game where my content actually mattered, whereas in this one everybody was just enjoying a popularity contest which, since I'm pretty much brand new, simply couldn't enjoy participating in.

Between the chumming around, meta talk, strategy discussion that I'm completely unfamiliar with, and bring angled into a pairing with somebody that has been nothing but abrasive to me, I just said fuck it and decided to agree with whatever.

I'm still not invested in this game... but I'm trying to care more now that it's not as much of a huge circle jerk with the pairings decided.

This makes sense I suppose.
Can u be more specific about what you disliked?

I didn't like 349, 774, 1763, & 1836.

I'm still down for supporting Radiant's & DVa's pushes when they differ from mine, just giving my take.

349 - saying LLD taking command looked town; I got the opposite vibe.
774 - twisting my 770 when I was basically the first to say what I was responding to in 747.
1763 - not a fan of your response to LLD
1836 - hard to explain, but the post didn't seem genuine

In 1763 I actually didn't mean to quote that which is why there is no response to the LLD quote lol
The others I can see don't look great so is what it is

HURT: kokichi/celestia[/vote]
is my first instinct, I don't TR either and both have been non-presences all game.

Yeah because your reads have been SO good this game so far.

This is pretty crappy shade throwing

[SirCakez]

It's not shade throwing when I'm directing it right to you and it's TRUE. Especially when you already said the same thing yourself. So who do you actually scumread. You only said you voted us cause we have low presence. What's your read based on LLD flipping scum and how have they changed?

I haven't done my reeval yet b/c I'm pretty busy but you two have both been in my blind spot and not really related to my other reads (I mentioned celestia a little bit) so I don't think LLD's scum flip changes that
call it less of a scumread then PoE

In 1763 I actually didn't mean to quote that which is why there is no response to the LLD quote lol

Dude, why lie?

Yeah come dance with me cakez

would that I could...

:/

See that bolded bit? That's your reply.

Yeah come dance with me cakez

:/

<.<
>.>
well obviously I remembered wrong so you got me there

[SirCakez]

Ok, the "why lie" post was a bit confbiasy... but the interaction quoted still wasn't a good look.

Yeah I understand that doesn't look good in retrospect of LLD's scum flip so I'm not gonna fight you on it.

I haven't done my reeval yet b/c I'm pretty busy but you two have both been in my blind spot and not really related to my other reads (I mentioned celestia a little bit) so I don't think LLD's scum flip changes that
call it less of a scumread then PoE

'Reveal' yet you're okay with just throwing down your vote on someone for little to no reason?

re-eval
reevaluate lol

[SirCakez]

Ah, okay lol. But, it's weird you don't think LLD's scum flip hasn't changed any of your thinking

I mean my reads on you and celestia were irrelevant to LLD
other reads jury is still out

[SirCakez]

I slightly dislike the Maria/Dunn pair b/c of Dunn, not Maria fyi

[SirCakez]

I slightly dislike the Maria/Dunn pair b/c of Dunn, not Maria fyi

Hey Sircakez, can you answer why you didn't accept your pairing with MariaR?

I know you were set top be paired with Moment, but you disregarded that and did your own thing anyway, so it kind of looksl ike you were avoiding being paired with Maria for som ereason

B/c RC would not approve it but he was okay with Mala and I

Also, I'm going to need you to elaborate on that, can you prove you're not just sheeping other people wen you say that?

I don't have any super strong reasons which is why I said slightly. Mostly PoE, I'm townreading most other people. And usually you give me a lot stronger town vibes which I'm not getting here.

So I kinda had paranoia on cakez bc he didn’t pair up with LLD when he had the chance to and he kept saying LLD was a top town read

Good point actually
Why would you not pair with your top townread Cakez, especially nearing deadline?

B/c I got unsure when she started AtEing, I posted about this in the middle of pre-dance
Also RC wasn't gonna approve it and I ultimately bow to him

[SirCakez]

Celestia it's not inactivity I'm "voting" you for

[SirCakez]

Short being House gives HUGE red flags about that slot now. DVA/short now on my lynch list.

[SirCakez]

Playing the newbie card so hard to cover up bad play @Gamma
Now that we know he wasn't newb his play was just really scummy

[SirCakez]

It makes a lot more sense to me to do DVA/short slot earlier in the order b/c I think short slot/Nancy is almost lock scum at this point considering the real identity and LLD interactions.
@RC

[SirCakez]

Ya my reads are not good here but I'm not the only one who thinks short looks bad now.

[SirCakez]

Mala lately has always been playing like this regardless of alignment, very lackluster. She's just really busy irl I think.

[SirCakez]

*inb4 I'm accused of being scum trying to avoid a mala lynch*

[SirCakez]

It makes a lot more sense to me to do DVA/short slot earlier in the order b/c I think short slot/Nancy is almost lock scum at this point considering the real identity and LLD interactions.
@RC

Nope.

Great argument

[SirCakez]

not what i was expecting to wake up to lmao
gg fun game FG! Always love your crazy setups.
hey short slot was scum so my reads weren't 100% trash I'll take it

[SirCakez]

LLD you did a good job leaving false associatives, nearly won the game for scum with all the town pairs that got lynched

[SirCakez]

I suppose but it easily could have gotten out of control with you dead if short hadn't been so obviously scum after their ban