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In post 1568, LabRat01 wrote:You even answered the read and I scum-read you for it later, so don’t tell me you just forgot about that now
Why didn’t you even mention anything about it being scummy back then if you’re so confident in it being “bulshit” rn? ()I've been highlighting your suspicious behaviour for a while now, but the recent stunts from you lot need to be called out for the bullshit they are.
And how is me wanting to lynch for PoE to heaven more scummy than you wanting to PoE a shitter to hell?
()Are you seriously comparing my D1 reads to your D2 reads? Are you seriously overlooking the seriousness of sending scum to heaven TODAY? Today is differnet to yesterday. And tomorrow will be even more serious.
Don’t push me for something you didn’t even bother to analyze. You’re treating me as if I were confirmed scum and as if you “don’t even need to think if the stuff doing is scummy” which is just wrong
()Please show me one sign of town motivation and I will listen.
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YES, I do think that lynching “uncertain town” to heaven is a good idea
()That is tactically naïve and backwards. I would never send my weak town/nullish reads to heaven. This is my first time playing this setup but I feel we need to play one day at a time. Send town to heaven and scum to hell - I don't think we have extra days to play around with.
If you just get rid of all of your strongest TRs, you’ll end up being completely screwed and surrounded by nulls late-game. That’s how it works in normal games, but it makes no god damn sense to aim for that in here, that'll just kill the discussion and harm you in the future
()Who are these nulls you are talking about? We have enough discussion and players to form reads and make supported decisions.
If there’s scum in the strong-ish TRs, they will most likely screw up your reads and whatever interaction analysis you want to make during the game
()So why not take one day at a time like I suggest? Send our town read to heaven - if he flips town good. If he flips scum, we'll need to reset and talk.
and if they’re town, they’ll just make you paranoid if they’re left alive till late-game
()Scum can't night kill so this is not a point to argue. More bullshit reasoning I do not understand.
so while it’s risky, it should be often more beneficial than harmful
The whole point of lynching during the heaven phase is to get rid of town in a way that would help you sort people later. Being afraid of sending scum to haven is good, but it will only harm your reads in the long run.
IF you screw up and place scum among your heaven-lynch-TRs, you’ll have to play it safe and lynch solely based on the confident TRs later, but tbh IF you have scum among the super confident reads and the less confident ones at the same time, it would mean that the town is p much screwed anyways, regardless of how you play.
()I simply disagree. We are in no situation where we can send are weak reads to heaven. Look at the current game - I feel you are either blinded or just persisting with this bullshit propaganda.
I do want to lynch volxen to heaven now. He’s someone I think is more likely to flip town than scum, but I’m not confident enough in the read to want him the be here in late-game.
Besides, there were a lot of people who TR him and some who TRd him very strongly since day-start, which was honestly kind of weirding me out. With support like that, if he’s scum, it’s really unlikely that he’ll ever get lynched to hell imo, which might heavily screw with the interaction reads, especially of those players who are TRing him so strongly.
And I really doubt that if he’s scum, the only ones who are TRing him so strongly are the mafia
()I do not understand your reasoning. Plus, I feel it is driven more by scum agenda then town-motivation.
That’s not as perfect as I would like, but it’s still a lot more helpful than just getting rid of someone I’m absolutely confident that will flip town imo.
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