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Post Post #3278  (isolation #200)  » Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:24 pm

feels like everyone beside melee punchers, really.
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Post Post #3280  (isolation #201)  » Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:15 pm

"something for everyone" sure. but it's not balanced. not close even. and the lack of AD in the runes is extraordinarily punishing as an ad if you get behind
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Post Post #3286  (isolation #202)  » Wed Nov 08, 2017 8:23 pm

In post 3284, xRECKONERx wrote:idk, precision tree on people like trist, kog, xayah, etc seems pretty bonkers

vayne, too. good lord the vaynes ive seen today.

I think the only group that probably gets hit hard is junglers because they don't have a great jungle-specific rune


Adc feels more snowbally because of the lack of free damage you get. Once you're behind I feel like you stay behind unless you flame horizon the guy that gets ahead of you, which is very hard because CSing under tower feels so much harder when you're under.
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Post Post #3288  (isolation #203)  » Thu Nov 09, 2017 2:32 am

In post 3281, Maestro wrote:Ok, if you don't like the lack of AD, look to Inspiration - the whole new tree dedicated to Gold guarantees and quirky, wonky, fun things that should help your game even if you're behind. Like, unless you don't play the game to have fun, I don't see a problem.


I don't. I play solely to win. Winning is fun, losing sucks. Losing because a major system has been tweaked sucks. Playing normals and not getting rewarded sucks, which makes losing triple suck cause you gotta play more games. I don't want my competitive game to be "quirky or wonky". I want to be able to be able to effect them game in a way that is equal to other players, not be left behind because of system changes, so then when I cause my team to lose it really sucks but I can at least learn and become better instead of like "should of played an assassin."

And yeah, they are gonna tweak this system. Yeah, it'll get balanced and toyed with and perfected over the course of the year(and years to come) and it'll become a system that(along with giving more than ~80 ip a game) will make the game easier for new players to get into. But yo, I don't play the pbe because I don't want to beta test this shit, so like don't make me beta test this shit? I don't want a month of league of cleavers, ya know?
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Post Post #3291  (isolation #204)  » Thu Nov 09, 2017 8:40 am

Idk, it's just a ridiculous statement to me. "You can have fun even if you're behind". No. You can't. The game is designed so losing fucking sucks and being far behind is not fun. It's very hard to "have fun" if 5 kill - was gonna say zed but it's kind of a 5 kill anybody - comes and kills you before you can really react (or despite reacting because he is strong and you are weak). Which I think is a totally fine mechanic and the entire genre is pretty much predicated on snowballing a lead, basically. And I honestly think that's what actually drives people to become better at the game, that futility of being the losing side and a thrill of being able to comeback despite the game being designed to crush you when you're behind. It's just too much right now. Prior to the change, ADCs - every single one - took 7% armor pen and the AD per lvl masteries. That's gone, so even for an adc, not being able to buy an on time bf sword is gonna start making last hitting under tower a giant struggle and I can really imagine how AP guys are last hitting when behind unless it's "use the mana ring rune and spam your moves situation".
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Post Post #3294  (isolation #205)  » Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:39 am

Nah, I was bored at work, now I'm waiting for breakfast and then imma eat. Then I'm going to play more league because welll..

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Post Post #3302  (isolation #206)  » Fri Nov 10, 2017 3:40 am

50,000 blue essence for the rest of your life.

If I earn enough to get urfwick, I'm gonna ban Zoe until I get enough essence to buy her.

Also Its very funny how big the trick is. "Hey guys here's the very expensive be shop, spend all your money in this then buy Zoe for rp wooooooo"
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Post Post #3307  (isolation #207)  » Fri Nov 10, 2017 7:19 am

Oh man

Oh geez.
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Post Post #3324  (isolation #208)  » Sat Nov 11, 2017 3:13 am

Dude, I'm taking ravenous on Lucian right now and it's bonkers especially with himy being able to proc press the attack almost instantaneously.
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Post Post #3328  (isolation #209)  » Sat Nov 11, 2017 7:19 am

Klepto Ez is very fun, especially when you have like 3 elixirs on you. And sometimes you get a 110 gold just for landing q. It's nice. Bankplank is probably great fun too. I honestly expect klepto to get taken down several notches.
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Post Post #3330  (isolation #210)  » Sat Nov 11, 2017 7:36 am

Fair enough. I didn't look at the stats on plank, just the hype and the how often I've seen it.
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Post Post #3331  (isolation #211)  » Sat Nov 11, 2017 7:37 am

Some of Ezreals punch is coming from the other keystones that make him strong as well though, press and harvest
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Post Post #3335  (isolation #212)  » Sat Nov 11, 2017 8:07 am

Surprised brand isn't up seeing as I'd assume the reasons all the others are up is the same reason sona is: every carry lost 13 MR and Summon:Aery is strong.
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Post Post #3338  (isolation #213)  » Sat Nov 11, 2017 8:59 am

Oh, apparently Quinn is in the ADC ranks for the first time in like two years. I thought press seemed stronger than tempo when reading but not this much. Tempo is basically ashe only
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Post Post #3340  (isolation #214)  » Sat Nov 11, 2017 9:02 am

Yeah, sure. Twitch, kog, and like the boring trio of cait/ashe/jinx.
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Post Post #3357  (isolation #215)  » Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:17 am

You don't have to buy pages tho. Just make the pre-game if you're worried about it, or just play a champ you have a rune page for until you can log out and check it out of queue.
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Post Post #3361  (isolation #216)  » Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:33 am

In post 3359, Psyche wrote:by the way, stopwatch costs like 600 gold
if someone's gonna build zhonyas, isn't it insane not to take it?
(i suppose you can argue a rune that gets you more kills on average or just control over the game/lane might pay off more)

EDIT: it seems that if you get stopwatch through the rune, it actually costs an extra 300g to upgrade it to zhonyas; that changes the math quite a bit, though the item cooldown reduction shouldn't be ignored either


this same logic is why i've been contemplating taking magic feet on all my carries. I don't typically buy boots 1 that early unless i'm against brand or lux, but giving up the red damage is real tough right now. Like the requirements are like "can't use cheap shots, sudden impact, or ravenous hunter and is safe enough to not have to use feast". So Ezreal.
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Post Post #3363  (isolation #217)  » Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:40 am

Also has anyone else's games been finishing at a ridiculous fast pace? My average game time in my last 20 on this patch is sub 30 minutes.
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Post Post #3364  (isolation #218)  » Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:41 am

In post 3362, Psyche wrote:it seems they designed those subrunes to give you ~300 gold no matter what


I think magic feet is closer to 4 tbh. Cause it's 350 straight up + the value of 10 movement speed.

edit: 1 ms is worth about 12g. So Magic Feet essentially gives you 470 gold worth of value.

Biscuits gives you 224g of stats(the mana) and idfk how to calculate the worth of the biscuit itself cause it straight doesn't translate to Health Pots.
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Post Post #3366  (isolation #219)  » Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:57 am

Yeah that was basically the only thing I thought of. On a guy like Ivern or something. Go Blue Green or something. Take exhaust when Objectives aren't up and take smite when you need it.
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Post Post #3379  (isolation #220)  » Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:43 pm

idk man, if everyone wants the same thing out of an inhouse, it would be fine.
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Post Post #3389  (isolation #221)  » Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:01 pm

I'm in.
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Post Post #3401  (isolation #222)  » Thu Nov 16, 2017 2:47 am

In post 3398, Maestro wrote:My call to action was more general than immediate


So more of a "someone else set this up" not a "let me actually do this thing I suggested"?
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Post Post #3410  (isolation #223)  » Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:47 pm

I'm Def only getting like 81 ip a game
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Post Post #3416  (isolation #224)  » Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:38 pm

all her stuff has decent magic ratios.
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Post Post #3444  (isolation #225)  » Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:33 am

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Post Post #3446  (isolation #226)  » Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:33 am

I just think you're crazy for trying to play a supporting style and out macro opponents at silver 3 instead of just hammering nails. If your smart enough to know how to win and cunning enough to convince your stupid team to do the right thing than you're probably smart enough to just pick xin/shyvana kill the idiots and your team will follow up simply because you're a 8 kill bruiser that's king of the game.
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Post Post #3448  (isolation #227)  » Sun Dec 10, 2017 6:32 am

I feel like Shyvana is just a more proactive Ivern. She clears the jungle very fast, can take enemy camps, is tough to take down while having a haste and a jump, she doesn't have defensive abilities but she can beat up the enemy and not take too much of a beating because of all the free stats and that opens up teammates to get their shit in. If you can gank with ivern, you can gank with Shyvana. Just use the same ward/ward removal strats cause she has a lot of free time just as ivern does. She can also solo take objectives so when you see a gank top you can roll into dragon without calling for help.
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Post Post #3449  (isolation #228)  » Sun Dec 10, 2017 6:42 am

Also being on someone like her or Hecarim can give you the guts to make plays because of their survivability. It's weird to me that Wukong and Kled are people you think are in your wheel house because they are some of the most aggressive dive champs in the game(Kled is incredibly durable tho if you can figure out how he works - I can't).
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Post Post #3452  (isolation #229)  » Sun Dec 10, 2017 10:36 am

I can't help you with aesthetics or with what champions speak to you and which don't; I can only tell you how I think is the best way to win and that is to be as versatile and self-sufficient as possible without having to rely on incredibly high execution. Ivern, to me, is not self-sufficient. I can not speak to his versatility because I have never played him and am not nearly as familiar with him as you are.
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Post Post #3460  (isolation #230)  » Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:06 am

They don't want high elo guys ruining their esports simulation mode and taking all the prizes, especially because you're gonna have to put in money/blue dust in order to participate.

Smurfing in solo Q fine, Smurfing in Clash not fine, basically.
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Post Post #3466  (isolation #231)  » Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:39 am

In post 3463, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 3457, SleepyKrew wrote:so excited for clash but I need to expand my champ pool to more than 2

all champs are unlocked in clash


That's not how he meant. He has the option to play more than2, he just doesn't know how.
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Post Post #3467  (isolation #232)  » Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:39 am

also jungkle alistar has always been immensely fun
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Post Post #3484  (isolation #233)  » Tue Dec 19, 2017 3:02 am

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Post Post #3486  (isolation #234)  » Tue Dec 19, 2017 6:08 am

DIed most to tristana. Killed Thresh the most.
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Post Post #3487  (isolation #235)  » Tue Dec 19, 2017 6:13 am

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Post Post #3492  (isolation #236)  » Tue Dec 19, 2017 10:59 am

In post 3490, Maestro wrote:
In post 3483, Andrius wrote:She's [Vayne] my most slaughtered AND slaughtered me the most.

Same! Might this be a bug or...?


Not a bug, you guys are probably just playing against vayne a ton, and feeding.

Me and Sleepy both went down to Tristana, the king of bot lane.
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Post Post #3499  (isolation #237)  » Wed Dec 20, 2017 4:58 am

I had 75% losses to taric.
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Post Post #3500  (isolation #238)  » Wed Dec 20, 2017 5:15 am

ZITI!! THIS YOU?!
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Post Post #3505  (isolation #239)  » Wed Dec 20, 2017 9:13 am

lmao, rublies!!!!

Nah i meant this g502 mouse that seemingly fell off a truck and onto my porch
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Post Post #3507  (isolation #240)  » Wed Dec 20, 2017 9:17 am

thank you zito.

also my birthday is tomorrow, am I getting another gift?
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Post Post #3509  (isolation #241)  » Wed Dec 20, 2017 9:24 am

one of my great games had you in it
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Post Post #3516  (isolation #242)  » Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:24 am

Sort of? It's still 3 stacks but once guinsoo's is fully stacked it procs on-hit abilities twice on every other shot. Silver bolts are an on hit effect. So you get 3 rings in 2 shots after you have 6 stacks.
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Post Post #3521  (isolation #243)  » Fri Dec 22, 2017 11:23 am

i think i place less wards than anyone in the world
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Post Post #3523  (isolation #244)  » Fri Dec 22, 2017 11:43 am

mine is well below average for bronze(and i'm somehow gold)
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Post Post #3531  (isolation #245)  » Sat Dec 23, 2017 8:19 am

In post 3529, JasonWazza wrote:
In post 3522, randomidget wrote:mine was below average for bronze rip


Yeah but bronze wards aren't worth anything anyway because of map awareness.



But like....I don't even get the wards on the map. I also don't level vision abilities
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Post Post #3537  (isolation #246)  » Tue Dec 26, 2017 2:07 am

5.2?
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Post Post #3539  (isolation #247)  » Tue Dec 26, 2017 2:24 am

Year in review bro....
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Post Post #3541  (isolation #248)  » Wed Dec 27, 2017 5:16 am

Ziggs middle seems good. seems fine.
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Post Post #3544  (isolation #249)  » Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:07 am

play rate is too low for the stats to mean anything. only guys playing it are ziggs adc experts
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Post Post #3550  (isolation #250)  » Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:56 pm

See I always find S3 to be really bad and S1 to be the absolute worst.
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Post Post #3555  (isolation #251)  » Sat Dec 30, 2017 1:07 pm

In post 3552, randomidget wrote:
In post 3550, Panzerjager wrote:See I always find S3 to be really bad and S1 to be the absolute worst.

s1 is bad yeah. s3 isn't great but you get some players who want to improve but are chill.
generally players at s3 aren't great but i've made some good friends there
s1 is def the worst


The issue with s3 that I find so amazingly toxic is that because that's where most new players get dumped at mid year after promos the variance is just so amazingly high and that leads to huge crazy blow outs which -in my experience- is when people are most toxic, so while individual instances of bad behavior may be more severe in other places (typically on the huge of tiers, so x1), the amount of blow outs that seem to happen in that section of the ladder means you're just getting it every single game, win or lose l, when in other places it seems to be more spectacular instances
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Post Post #3573  (isolation #252)  » Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:10 am

I placed in gold so I don't have to read patch notes for the rest of the year. It's exciting.
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Post Post #3576  (isolation #253)  » Thu Jan 25, 2018 2:16 am

120 ap is a lot.
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Post Post #3578  (isolation #254)  » Fri Jan 26, 2018 9:49 am

How? Were you bronze 3?
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Post Post #3580  (isolation #255)  » Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:05 am

10-0 s4? That's weird bro
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Post Post #3581  (isolation #256)  » Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:08 am

Must of had some real bad mmr
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Post Post #3587  (isolation #257)  » Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:44 am

stop watch and biscuit. or celerity and gathering storm.
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Post Post #3600  (isolation #258)  » Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:44 am

If i only played on one account..I'm sure I'd have 200k on Ashe
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Post Post #3605  (isolation #259)  » Wed Mar 07, 2018 3:57 am

they just nerfed the holy shit out of her, so like..that's my only point of surprise.
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Post Post #3609  (isolation #260)  » Wed Mar 07, 2018 5:01 am

i'm pretty sure 8.4 was a nerf, yeah https://twitter.com/TheeMarkZ/status/970071979104518144
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Post Post #3640  (isolation #261)  » Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:46 am

Hey...clash is almost here. I'm looking for NA players around my skill level to play clash with.
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Post Post #3655  (isolation #262)  » Mon Apr 09, 2018 5:14 pm

only in clash
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Post Post #3668  (isolation #263)  » Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:21 pm

clash suck.
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Post Post #3670  (isolation #264)  » Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:12 am

My thoughts on clash:

This beta weekend was pretty clunky and I'm hoping that between trial and error in team building and the matchmaking system's self correction that is (supposedly) in place will make the matchmaking better. I also hope that riot will do more proactive prevention of smurfs being in clash. If those two things fall into place, I think it could be a solid option and would actually fix the issues with ranked 5s. At the very least, even if you bomb out 0-2 every time you play. You at least get a free xp boost which gives you the potential to break even on tickets.

I think "scouting" is an abject failure and if you care you're much better served going to op.gg. The only time scouting is effective is on one tricks, playing on their primary account and their primary role, like sleepy crew.

I wish Riot was more inclined to give details on how matchmaking works, so people can more actively defend themselves from people gaming the system, but I understand theirs a fear people would use that to more efficiently game the system.
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Post Post #3682  (isolation #265)  » Thu May 03, 2018 5:09 pm

There are plenty of safe picks. Like Sion.
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Post Post #3684  (isolation #266)  » Thu May 03, 2018 5:23 pm

Also some of it is just walk backwards. But between picking safer champions when you're first pick and playing them cautiously, you shouldn't be in situations where you're just totally worthless. But idk, I could see KScope's point in that "well, i can't pick the guy I wanted to pick because I don't get to go 2nd so this is stupid. I just want to be Jax, this is not fun), but like..if you're a Jax one trick and just want to play Jax I guess I only got 2 words for you: git gud.
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Post Post #3687  (isolation #267)  » Fri May 04, 2018 8:15 am

Sion, Cho, probably renekton. All those guys are super safe. I reliable probably is safe by virtue of no bad matchupa cause she's op.
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Post Post #3689  (isolation #268)  » Fri May 04, 2018 8:19 am

In post 3688, Draynth wrote:
In post 3687, Panzerjager wrote:Sion, Cho, probably renekton. All those guys are super safe. I reliable probably is safe by virtue of no bad matchupa cause she's op.

Presuming you mean irelia here :P

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Post Post #3696  (isolation #269)  » Mon May 07, 2018 1:38 am

In post 3694, tn5421 wrote:
In post 3693, randomidget wrote:even with advanced warning though she zones you really fucking hard, and at low elo you dont have good enough positioning as a team to peel and let the adc burst her.


Just having that 5 seconds of extra warning stops it from being a near-guaranteed kill in a lot of cases, though. You're absolutely right that you still get zoned out in a general sense, though.

Edit: DISCLAIMER, I'm a bronzie.


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Post Post #3698  (isolation #270)  » Mon May 07, 2018 2:42 am

Where are you in lane in the hypothetical? When did you start backing up(when she was behind dragon or when she was in river? Idk man...League is a bad game.
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Post Post #3702  (isolation #271)  » Tue May 15, 2018 12:50 pm

Yup.
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Post Post #3709  (isolation #272)  » Thu May 24, 2018 10:24 am

Is there a high silver or gold top laner/jungler without a clash team in here
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Post Post #3717  (isolation #273)  » Sat May 26, 2018 9:27 am

In post 3713, hiplop wrote:
In post 3709, Panzerjager wrote:Is there a high silver or gold top laner/jungler without a clash team in here

Sup cutie


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Post Post #3725  (isolation #274)  » Sun May 27, 2018 4:35 pm

The people who enjoy urf are the same people that enjoy aram. Lower skilled members of the community that don't care about getting better or trivial things like having a balanced experience. Essentially people who are bad and do not care that they are bad and only want to "have fun" by shooting a bunch of lux moves because if you shoot enough free skillshots eventually you'll hit one and you don't have to worry about pesky things like low accuracy. mana or cooldown to ruin your "late game fantasy". The irony is like...every game of lux ends in URF so like...just play lux and every game will be urf and you can play ranked and learn to play league which is a joyful yet arduous experience.
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Post Post #3730  (isolation #275)  » Sun May 27, 2018 5:50 pm

Not really worked up. Just making a point. I don't have these people on my friend's list, and I just don't open the featured game tab ever. If you're an ARAM/ARURF player, good for you. I'm happy that you found something you like.

It's simply not for me and I hold the opinion that ARAM actively makes you worse at league of legends.
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Post Post #3733  (isolation #276)  » Sun May 27, 2018 6:42 pm

One diamond guy liking ARAM < all bronze players liking Aram.
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Post Post #3735  (isolation #277)  » Sun May 27, 2018 8:20 pm

Sure, whatever.
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Post Post #3738  (isolation #278)  » Sun May 27, 2018 11:57 pm

Same audience.
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Post Post #3740  (isolation #279)  » Mon May 28, 2018 12:16 am

I don't care enough to look for percentage stats, so you're gonna have to accept anecdotal evidence or do the legwork yourself.
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Post Post #3747  (isolation #280)  » Tue May 29, 2018 3:55 am

I think random definitely made it better. No fun getting the same cheese every single game. Every game in non-random was like. Lux, morg, nidalee, ezreal, jayce.
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Post Post #3750  (isolation #281)  » Tue May 29, 2018 4:45 am

In post 3748, RayFrost wrote:Hecarim, fiora, lux, ezreal, zed


Lux/morg criss cross bot lane was Def a thing. I forgot hecarim.
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Post Post #3757  (isolation #282)  » Thu May 31, 2018 9:06 am

In post 3755, Psyche wrote:is karthus jg viable again?
Ive been wanted to do that since I liked him.

Also I’ve always dreamed of running Liss jg as her ganks are pretty phenomenal when she gets the chance to do them.

Just plz tell me how you are making these mage junglers work it would be a dream come true for me if they were viable.


"Decent" is a very flexible word.

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Post Post #3788  (isolation #283)  » Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:49 am

Could replace it with the league logo....whole game is fucked
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Post Post #3793  (isolation #284)  » Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:42 pm

In post 3792, SleepyKrew wrote:don't listen to him
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Post Post #3797  (isolation #285)  » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:04 am

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Post Post #3799  (isolation #286)  » Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:57 pm

STASLKERES
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Post Post #3802  (isolation #287)  » Thu Jun 21, 2018 11:35 pm

We only got classic announcer right now, yasuo was very recently one of the worst Champs before riot buffed him because half the player base complained
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Post Post #3824  (isolation #288)  » Sat Jul 28, 2018 3:20 pm

Oh..I should probably do my promos before summer ends.
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Post Post #3832  (isolation #289)  » Mon Jul 30, 2018 5:03 am

Hate to break it to you, but "shot caller" has never been a role or a thing in solo q unless you were/are the super fed guy. No one listens to the 0/3 "macro genius"
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Post Post #3835  (isolation #290)  » Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:51 am

I've ranked since early season 2 from lowest bronze to lowest Plat. I have something like 6000 games or more. Never once have I seen ANYONE EVER be a designated shot caller. I've seen "follow the fed guy" but never once have I seen a "macro player" do anything but feed ask why no one listens to them. Spoiler: cause they bad.
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Post Post #3846  (isolation #291)  » Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:46 am

I thought decay went away
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Post Post #3852  (isolation #292)  » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:27 am

good advice in the lol thread for once
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Post Post #3862  (isolation #293)  » Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:05 am

I had you pegged as a hyper bad, hyper toxic low elo support, so riot is reaffirming my opinions of you, therefore the stats panel must be great
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Post Post #3863  (isolation #294)  » Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:47 am

also, how did you find out your toxicity data?
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Post Post #3867  (isolation #295)  » Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:45 pm

In post 3864, Lycanfire wrote:
In post 3862, Panzerjager wrote:I had you pegged as a hyper bad, hyper toxic low elo support, so riot is reaffirming my opinions of you, therefore the stats panel must be great


Look dude I peaked P1 with support, jungle, and top simultaneously while role switching to mid so I wouldn't be such a mechanical potato in 2014. I did the same in 2015 but with ADC before I experienced burn out.

Please tell me more about how you went from a "gold-lifer" to plat in 6000 games.

Somehow you're managing to take offense to protect whatever fragile ego you have because you think I mean I reached this level with "bad" or "bronze" or "silver" or "gold" or (whatever elo you are) mechanics. My mechanics were bad because they weren't getting better. That's all there is to it.


For some reason, you think I care about what rank you made it to.

You also seem to think I care about being a gold lifer. I love being a gold lifer.
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Post Post #3870  (isolation #296)  » Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:26 am

In post 3868, TehBrawlGuy wrote:
In post 3867, Panzerjager wrote:
For some reason, you think I care about what rank you made it to.


gosh, panzer why might he have this impression?

In post 3862, Panzerjager wrote:I had you pegged as ... low elo


Platinum is low elo, but toxic is the much more important part of that sentence you cut out.
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Post Post #3872  (isolation #297)  » Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:00 am

Everything under diamond 3 is low elo scrub territory.
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Post Post #3873  (isolation #298)  » Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:00 am

That's what the cool kids tell me.
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Post Post #3876  (isolation #299)  » Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:34 am

Mid elo doesn't exist. You're either good, or you're not good.

We as a collective aside from I think 2-3 of us, are low elo scrubs.

And at least one of us is a toxic scrub.

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Post Post #3887  (isolation #300)  » Sat Aug 18, 2018 2:15 pm

I don't think we shifted into a tank meta, but I'm definitely sick of every best pick being an assassin.
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Post Post #3892  (isolation #301)  » Tue Aug 21, 2018 1:26 am

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Post Post #3894  (isolation #302)  » Sat Aug 25, 2018 10:53 pm

I've been playing a lot of amumu.
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Post Post #3900  (isolation #303)  » Mon Aug 27, 2018 9:56 am

I feel like you're using the word viable wrong. If you're talking dictionary definition, he's viable at all levels of play (50% win rate in Korean plat+ and made an appearance in LCK play this year). He has clear and well-defined weaknesses, which kinda makes him tough in a meta where most of the top tier and 2ND tier junglers are guys specifically strong at amumu'so weakness(graves, Xin, camille, lee, nidalee), but it's also a meta where the strongest guys in every role is a squishy damage guy, so being able to wrap the enemy squishes while your squishies use all their moves is really strong. And his scaling with liandriy's is pretty dope and real does put a hurting on people, but it definitely comes at the cost of like...hoping graves and the mid laner don't ruin your whole game. But yeah. There's a reason he has the highest win rate of all junglers gold and below and it'd because he can take advantage of being the only guy with cc lol.

Top 5 play rate gold and below in top lane:
Garen
Darius
Jax
Riven
Gangplank (teemo and nasus are close)

Mid lane
Zed
Ahri
Yasuo
Akali
Fizz (LeBlanc over akali in gold and plat)

Bot lane
Jhin
Miss fortune
Ezreal
Jinx
Kaia

Support
Thresh (=()
Morgana
Pyke
Nami
Lux

Jungle
Lee
Graves
Yi
Kayn
Jax

So uh...in short, ban graves, play amamu, hope your support is Morgana and win every game until you decide hitting plat is a stupid waste of time.
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Post Post #3905  (isolation #304)  » Mon Aug 27, 2018 11:17 am

I was gonna try to post something relevant to the topic, but like....psyche is a damn savage.

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Post Post #3911  (isolation #305)  » Tue Aug 28, 2018 3:19 pm

the difference between a silver 5 and a bronze 2 is kinda nothing...

Just as I don't think someone stuck in gold 5 is really any different then a silver 1 player.

(silver 2-silver 4 has incredible variance and i think skill really varies from player to player until you have a sizable amount of games and even then i don't think a silver 2 player with a sizable amount of games is that close to a gold 5 player)
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Post Post #3913  (isolation #306)  » Tue Aug 28, 2018 11:52 pm

Well..they are technically better cause they hit silver and you haven't...i know that sounds like talking out of both sides of my mouth but it's true. IDK, when you're that low on the bell curve, the climbing is really easy. I still find the hardest part on the ladder to be Silver 2-3 because you have guys placing directly into that rank because it's 50th percentile and they just aren't that good and variance is bad.
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Post Post #3915  (isolation #307)  » Wed Aug 29, 2018 3:51 am

yeah..i've about had my fill of losing on zac...2-5 i think maybe 2-6. I think amumu might be the best tank jungler despite having the least options
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Post Post #3919  (isolation #308)  » Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:41 am

I have some really bad news for you....
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Post Post #3920  (isolation #309)  » Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:43 am

That never ends
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Post Post #3940  (isolation #310)  » Sat Sep 01, 2018 5:37 pm

i just got crushed by a mobi's, ap, superspeed nunu
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Post Post #3942  (isolation #311)  » Sat Sep 01, 2018 6:30 pm

it was not hilarious.
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Post Post #3943  (isolation #312)  » Sat Sep 01, 2018 6:39 pm

he seems to be Purple/Red (Comet/Nullyfying Orb/celerity/waterwalking with Cheap Shots/Relentless Hunter). Also it just seems to be the normal AP build with Mobis instead of tank shoes. Ap jungle item, Morello, Zhonya. 4th item has seems to have a catalyst in it, not sure what he's going for. Probably abyssal. But yeah, seems to be normal build path with the movement speed hunter/celerity/waterwalking and mobis.

I don't think it's a particularly great build, I just think we had a bad team. Bad support, bad mid laner, bad jungler. Fed nunu and the assassin. They had a cheese support, so that helped.

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Post Post #3950  (isolation #313)  » Sun Sep 02, 2018 4:36 pm

Kindred was *already* good again.

I think she even took a tiny nerf cause too good. That or Graves just stole her niche
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Post Post #3957  (isolation #314)  » Tue Sep 11, 2018 3:40 am

I never understand why she isn't meta because she's insanely annoying to deal with.
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Post Post #3972  (isolation #315)  » Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:53 pm

I think just do it all. Jungler doesn't get rift? Kill your guy and get rift yourself. No one wants to push after a fight? Hope you brought a tiamat.
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Post Post #3974  (isolation #316)  » Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:57 pm

But honestly, I definitely feel the game has gotten harder to win. Every game is a drag race now that's over in 22 minutes. I have the experience of being an 0/1/1 guy or a 1/1/1 guy in a game that's like 2 to 10 at 12 minutes a lot and I'm not really sure how to remedy the situation
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Post Post #3975  (isolation #317)  » Fri Sep 28, 2018 11:01 pm

In post 3973, Dunnstral wrote:Here are some tips for splitpushing:

Understand when your team is putting up pressure, and when they're not. If your team isn't doing anything, the other team is likely coming for you
Watch the map, if a lot of people are unaccounted for then don't split push unless your team has pressure elsewhere (it's ok if the enemy team kills you, as long as your team gets something for it)
Don't push up if you don't have pressure in other lanes - watch your own team on the map as well - at the very least this will keep you from feeding


This feels wrong for his skill level. If he waits for his team to be proactive he's gonna be spending large swaths of time either freezing lane or running around doing nothing/stealing his own teams jungle. I think throwing down a couple wards, pushing and running is gonna be way more helpful than just "don't push unless your team has them occupied"
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Post Post #3992  (isolation #318)  » Fri Oct 12, 2018 1:47 am

Don't listen to katsuki. He's a Dota shitter
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Post Post #4000  (isolation #319)  » Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:27 pm

Are you ok?
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Post Post #4004  (isolation #320)  » Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:20 pm

yeah fuck it, who cares?
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Post Post #4033  (isolation #321)  » Sun Nov 11, 2018 11:54 am

men
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Post Post #4047  (isolation #322)  » Wed Nov 21, 2018 4:31 am

I feel like she's being marketed as a mid laner but she probably will be a popular support pick
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Post Post #4053  (isolation #323)  » Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:53 pm

I think yes. But they are basically impossible to kill before 14.
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Post Post #4055  (isolation #324)  » Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:35 pm

Maybe I'm just playing the wrong champs. Been mostly playing an via mid lane and not busting anything.
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Post Post #4057  (isolation #325)  » Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:42 am

It took me like 4 games to get the trophy and I just haven't been seeing it or doing it. But my games are a small sample, I'm glad other people are getting through them
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Post Post #4059  (isolation #326)  » Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:02 am

I'm a jungler it's not my fault.=(

(My wave management has gotten much better though)
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Post Post #4071  (isolation #327)  » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:55 am

Sion out there at the end like "where team?"
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Post Post #4074  (isolation #328)  » Tue Feb 19, 2019 6:16 am

I'm alive
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Post Post #4079  (isolation #329)  » Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:33 am

I'm around later. Maybe sleepo too?
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Post Post #4080  (isolation #330)  » Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:34 am

I see psyche a bit too
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Post Post #4090  (isolation #331)  » Sun Mar 31, 2019 1:25 pm

I can understand that but as a carry player, janna players are my favorite supports.
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Post Post #4098  (isolation #332)  » Tue May 07, 2019 1:41 pm

Does any one want to play with me?
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Post Post #4101  (isolation #333)  » Tue May 07, 2019 2:59 pm

Bard used to be the "support for vayne players"
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Post Post #4102  (isolation #334)  » Tue May 07, 2019 3:00 pm

Also I forgot your ign but I know I have it in my list. I think something about rife
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Post Post #4105  (isolation #335)  » Tue May 07, 2019 5:32 pm

Alisae, add me.

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Post Post #4110  (isolation #336)  » Wed May 08, 2019 6:36 am

I got some losing in me now if people are around
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Post Post #4112  (isolation #337)  » Thu May 09, 2019 3:33 am

Is this a tier list of stuff you like playing?
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Post Post #4115  (isolation #338)  » Thu May 09, 2019 7:35 am

But not like...champion strength, right? Cause aside from kindred, your S-tier 3 is below average guys, and kindred is a jungler and Riot just nerfed the jungle for the 4th time in a row so like...jungling is dead in general.
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Post Post #4117  (isolation #339)  » Thu May 09, 2019 8:02 am

Is that how it works?
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Post Post #4120  (isolation #340)  » Thu May 09, 2019 8:33 am

Cool. So why aren't volibear and Nasus higher? They seem like they'd appeal to you.
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Post Post #4124  (isolation #341)  » Sun May 12, 2019 2:02 pm

You play on Oceania from america? Yikes
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Post Post #4132  (isolation #342)  » Sun May 12, 2019 6:00 pm

In post 4125, mastina wrote:
In post 4124, Panzerjager wrote:You play on Oceania from america? Yikes
Don't see the problem with that. I don't get any lag as far as I can tell. (If I did, I could plausibly claim it as an excuse for my failures, but no, I just suck that badly. :P)

Vice versa, girlfriend who has no problem on Oceana, wouldn't be the case; they'd lag like hell if playing on the American server.

So it's a simple matter of convenience. I have no trouble with their server, they'd have trouble on my server, I'm playing mostly for them, so I do the obvious.


I feel that there's 0 chance in hell that your ping isn't like 250-300 on the Oceania server.
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Post Post #4134  (isolation #343)  » Sun May 12, 2019 6:03 pm

Vayne runs the on hit shit. And MF still can use the lethality build.
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Post Post #4135  (isolation #344)  » Sun May 12, 2019 6:07 pm

In post 4126, Lycanfire wrote:Lucian is a much better win lane champion for low elos. If you can't pull off the "I got a 20csd at 15 and first tower so I won lane" shtick with Cait and Ashe you lost lane by default. Why put yourself through that? Lucian gets outranged, but if you suck with Ashe and Cait, then you're not going to get punished by people you play against. He has mobility, unlike Ashe. He has an auto that doesn't take 5 years to animate, unlike Cait. Lucian builds whatever the fuck he wants. Crit path. Bork cleaver. Ghostblade rush to force an early surrender. Ashe gets to choose between building IE before or after GA. Cait's best build is only possible because adc itemization numbers are busted.


I like Ashe a lot for all elos. She can teach you the basics of the game, she is safe in lane, she'll ease you in to map awateness, and you don't have to wait for other people to initiate for you. She is the most do-it-yourself ADC out of all them because she has such a unique kit and isn't nearly as out damage as she used to be now that she has the bees.
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Post Post #4141  (isolation #345)  » Sun May 12, 2019 7:06 pm

In post 4139, RadiantCowbells wrote:If ur averaging a 50%ish winrate your issue is not ur champion of choice

If you're not climbing as fast as you want when you're better than everyone you should start jungling


They keep nerfing the jungle. I don't feel like it's worth it anymore.
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Post Post #4143  (isolation #346)  » Sun May 12, 2019 7:44 pm

I feel like 1 mistake and you're just forever behind, but you're also a much better player than me so there's probably ways to alleviate it.
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Post Post #4153  (isolation #347)  » Wed May 15, 2019 4:39 am

I don't think this is going to result in Yuumi nerfs...I think if this becomes a thing it's going to result in another huge adc item rework because the idea is to just use adc items good scaling + be a targeting nightmare by phasing in and out of invulnerability due to yuumi's signature mechanic. I don't think you can change the signature mechanic but you *can* fuck adcs again. Only other way I could see it is messing with her base ad/as or her ad/as growth, but that would probably just make her an even more ineffective support.

Edit: tbf, riot *did* try to prevent her from being able to do this by making her ap numbers bad, which is why she is likely a poor support and would be a poor mage but I just think this is just a mechanic that's too strong for the game. Thresh was like that when he first came out, where he just felt too strong for the game (and he's still kinda stupidly strong).
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Post Post #4155  (isolation #348)  » Wed May 15, 2019 7:16 am

Played her ADC, was not impressed. This won't be solo queue viable. The video that I saw it work in was all champs the synergized with her but in the wild, where people do not give a fuck about you or your opinion, it's very lack luster. She's just vayne or kaisa with strict rules as to when she can and can not be invulnerable but without a steroid and she can't attack during her ult and the ult last like..6 seconds. Like if someone tears you up on Yuumi adc, they'd probably rip you twice as hard on kaisa.
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Post Post #4178  (isolation #349)  » Sat Jun 01, 2019 1:56 am

Boooo, kidnap is better.
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Post Post #4182  (isolation #350)  » Tue Jun 04, 2019 1:27 pm

I vern is good now, sorta, u were right.
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Post Post #4184  (isolation #351)  » Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:00 pm

I definitely need to expand my ganking. Its really hard and just cutting through the jungle efficiently is hard enlugh.
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Post Post #4191  (isolation #352)  » Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:18 pm

That gif made me so mad
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Post Post #4193  (isolation #353)  » Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:04 am

I player a normal with him semi-recently
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Post Post #4203  (isolation #354)  » Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:28 am

I feel like being dead average is something to celebrate.
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Post Post #4210  (isolation #355)  » Wed Jun 26, 2019 12:33 pm

Tft sucks
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Post Post #4212  (isolation #356)  » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:35 pm

reported
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Post Post #4220  (isolation #357)  » Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:49 am

Hey look, mastina came up with the exact comp that was the best thing on pbe before nerfs.

Zzzzzzz.

(Btw, hoping for 9 person combo is ridiculous lol, I've been winning most of my games with 8 at most. Most recent win was 6 assassins and darius)
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Post Post #4239  (isolation #358)  » Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:00 am

Blitz crank only works once though.
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Post Post #4245  (isolation #359)  » Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:58 pm

Tft is like 83% luck.
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Post Post #4247  (isolation #360)  » Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:40 pm

They actually made tft less variance last night too.
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Post Post #4249  (isolation #361)  » Sun Aug 11, 2019 7:34 pm

I'm glad you are wrong about everything including agreeing with me cause last patch they literally made the variance lower by decreasing death speed.
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Post Post #4250  (isolation #362)  » Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:02 am

Morello/Red Buff are both super important but they aren't versatile. I don't think any of the giant belt items are bad. I think they are the most important item. The negatron cloak is fine but most of the items are situational. I really like ionic spark tho. Shiv is a straight up game winner and goes in every comp. FoN is great but all the other items are good even though they are by definition situational(although a youmuu's off of a dragon has literally won me a game before). I probably should be trying to mix my comps up but I've basically just been jamming 4 Rangers + shivs
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Post Post #4256  (isolation #363)  » Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:44 pm

Idk, I'm only Plat, but I think you're incredibly wrong about which synergies are strong.
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Post Post #4258  (isolation #364)  » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:00 pm

6 brawlers + a void guy and Jinx is one of the strongest comps in the game.

Blademasters is strong because of BotRK on Gunslingers so it's not all front liners(especially if you get hella lucky you can hit the 9 thresh hold with 4 gunslingers).

6 knights + 4 rangers is still strong as fuck if you see there are no sorcerers(or only 1 sorcerer)
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Post Post #4259  (isolation #365)  » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:01 pm

You're definitely wrong about void being bad, btw.
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Post Post #4263  (isolation #366)  » Sat Aug 17, 2019 9:51 pm

This is the teamfight tactics thread.
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Post Post #4264  (isolation #367)  » Sat Aug 17, 2019 9:55 pm

But I'm also done with mastins, so there''s that.

"Blademaster's isn't as strong as nobles/glacial" > "actual Blademaster is probably the strongest team in the game" > "yeah, I said that."

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Post Post #4266  (isolation #368)  » Sat Aug 17, 2019 10:12 pm

Into submission?
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Post Post #4267  (isolation #369)  » Sat Aug 17, 2019 10:13 pm

Also the wall isn't the problem. It's the blatant bulls hit of me being like, okay, that isnt rught, "but i said that" and it's like...??
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Post Post #4271  (isolation #370)  » Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:51 pm

It's best with gunslingers, but it's strong regardless. Cause it's just as good with imperials. It's almost like you don't just build one synergy in this game and you have to use multiple synergies to succeed, so saying thing is worthless by it self is not only typically wrong but also pointless.
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Post Post #4273  (isolation #371)  » Wed Aug 21, 2019 9:07 pm

the new champs are technically new to everyone else too...so all's fair.
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Post Post #4275  (isolation #372)  » Fri Sep 06, 2019 7:57 pm

You're so weird, dude.
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Post Post #4284  (isolation #373)  » Mon Dec 23, 2019 7:28 am

I laughed
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Post Post #4286  (isolation #374)  » Wed Feb 05, 2020 8:18 pm

Uh..at tremendous risk of overstepping, why not just bite the bullet and purchase a server transfer because you're no longer with the person you joined that server to play with? I don't mind playing with you but I'm on NA and most people on MS are on NA or EUW.

pedit: not saure why you even want that mission if you don't have 5, because the prize is a clash ticket, which you need 5 for.
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Post Post #4293  (isolation #375)  » Sun Feb 23, 2020 4:54 pm

I feel that is an incredibly imperfect method for this
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Post Post #4296  (isolation #376)  » Sun Mar 15, 2020 8:44 am

He's Bray Wyatt.
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Post Post #4300  (isolation #377)  » Sat Aug 08, 2020 2:29 am

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