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Post Post #2200 (ISO) » Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:03 am

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MariaR: Almost50 [1]
Almost50: Purrcocet [1]
Kokichi Oma:
Elsa Jay:
Lady Angel: Elsa Jay [1]
the worst:
Purrcocet:
Carcalilly: Alonzo [1]
Performer:
Chara:
Snowman:
Alonzo: Kokichi Oma

Not Voting: Lady Angel, Carcalilly, Snowman, MariaR, the worst, Chara, Performer

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

(expired on 2018-11-30 23:08:51)

- the worst is on V/La until Nov. 22ish
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Post Post #2201 (ISO) » Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:15 am

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VOTE: lady
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post Post #2202 (ISO) » Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:22 am

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In post 2162, the worst wrote:is elsa a wolf this time or am i dumb?
Why not both? :P

(Cheap shot, I know.. but it's been a while since I poked you in the nose, and I miss bugging you and driving you up the wall). :twisted:

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Post Post #2203 (ISO) » Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:30 am

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In post 2185, Chara wrote:who else isn't American but fully intends to be lazy during American Thanksgiving?
just me?
I'm not American, and my activity depends on 2 main factors: How I feel and whether there is activity from others.

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Post Post #2204 (ISO) » Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:34 am

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I'm not doing anything for Thanksgiving but I already decided my lynch so...

If we could get this show on the road and get rid of the scum who tried to fake claim a role not even possible, that'd be great.

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Post Post #2205 (ISO) » Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:36 am

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In post 2190, Chara wrote:B) this setup doesn't have an alignment cop.
Except it does. Check the possible roles (8th slot I think)

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Post Post #2206 (ISO) » Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:37 am

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In post 2191, Performer wrote:suddenly on d2 he claims hes sick
Do you think his IRL sickness has to do with him being poisoned by Ruby's role?? :P

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Post Post #2207 (ISO) » Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:38 am

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Neapolitan, Vanilla Cop, Tracker, Follower. where's the alignment cop?
"Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."
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Post Post #2208 (ISO) » Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:39 am

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In post 2192, Performer wrote:ruby should never have been an nk last night compared to other people here
thinking its because someone knew his alt
"his"?? OMG! I think I remember whom it is now! Shoot! :facepalm:

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Post Post #2209 (ISO) » Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:40 am

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In post 2203, Almost50 wrote:I'm not American, and my activity depends on 2 main factors: How I feel and whether there is activity from others.
i didnt know youre not american!

i dont think i ever play depending on just how i feel and if theres activity from others :neutral:
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Post Post #2210 (ISO) » Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:47 am

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oh, i see. alignment cop is in the example role PMs but not in the turn order list.
never mind me. i didn't realize they were different.
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Post Post #2211 (ISO) » Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:48 am

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In post 3, AnonymousGhost wrote:
Modular Setup and Turn Order:




Spoiler: Possible Role PMs
Welcome
USERNAME
. You are Despair the Endless.


Welcome
USERNAME
. You are Wrath the Vengeful.
Toxic Goo
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Welcome
USERNAME
. You are Envy the Jealous.
Green Goo
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4 -
Motivator


5-
Jail Keeper


6-
Elite Bodyguard


7-
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8-
Welcome
USERNAME
. You are Lust the Lascivious.

[Win Condition/Alignment goes here]. Please reply to this PM to show that you have confirmed. Here is the link to the discussion thread. Best of luck.

Besides your voice and your vote, here are your other abilities:

Good Cop, Bad Cop
[Active]: You are an Alignment Cop. You may target a player, in an attempt to discover their alignment. Town players will return as 'Advantage' and scum will return as 'Hardship'.


9- You are Gluttony the Voracious.
Neapolitan


10- You are Forgiveness the Absolved.
Vanilla Cop


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P-edit: *Sigh* Gonna post this anyway. I didn't just spend 5+ minutes to just discard the post. :lol:

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Post Post #2212 (ISO) » Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:51 am

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i want LA to get her butt in here to clear up what she was trying to say about n1 & carca, because rereading that ISO is a headache
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Post Post #2213 (ISO) » Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:51 am

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if we mislynch again, then we're screwed
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Post Post #2214 (ISO) » Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:51 am

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In post 2209, Performer wrote:
In post 2203, Almost50 wrote:I'm not American, and my activity depends on 2 main factors: How I feel and whether there is activity from others.
i didnt know youre not american!

i dont think i ever play depending on just how i feel and if theres activity from others :neutral:
Well, if I have a headache or not concentrating enough I won't be playing the way I would if I was fully concentrating. And if there's enough activity there's something for me to comment on, while if nobody else is posting I am basically talking to myself.

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Post Post #2215 (ISO) » Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:54 am

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In post 2213, Performer wrote:if we mislynch again, then we're screwed
Not really. This is why I am willing to give my guilty another day.

The game explicitly has only 3 scums vs 11 Townies. Now we are 9 vs 3. Another mislynch and a successful NK = 7 vs 3. We can afford yet another mislynch at that point before we are in MyLo.

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Post Post #2216 (ISO) » Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:01 am

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oh i misspoke - meant if we mislynch another tpr
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Post Post #2217 (ISO) » Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:34 am

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In post 2202, Almost50 wrote:
In post 2162, the worst wrote:is elsa a wolf this time or am i dumb?
Why not both? :P

(Cheap shot, I know.. but it's been a while since I poked you in the nose, and I miss bugging you and driving you up the wall). :twisted:
I mean it's cheap but is it wrong...?
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Post Post #2218 (ISO) » Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:35 am

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In post 2191, Performer wrote:@chara the nk on ruby and that hes still alive
suddenly on d2 he claims hes sick
something seems very off about all this
Performer you're not a wolf irl
Don't post irl-wolf stuff like this

Do you need me to have the time to finish my catch up?
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Post Post #2219 (ISO) » Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:55 am

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OK, so let me be more analytical than I had intended to be.
I will be working from scratch to make things simple for everyone. It's like building an application using open source code available to everyone, so it should be easy for everyone to comprehend and "edit" the theory.
This also means I won't be using my expectations/experience at the basic step, maybe later on, but not the core idea.

So, While Flag is an all Vanilla 9 v 3 setup, but requires the lynch of only 2 scums for the Town to win, so in theory it's 9 vs 2.5 (?)

Stack the Deck starts with 10 vs 3, but the Town is already with 2 TPRs and Scum are with a Traitor. If Scum recruit the Traitor that's a 3rd TPR for the Town to take. Any additional poowers the Scum take also give the Town an additional TPR.

So, 3 TPRs + 7 VTs vs 3 Goons.

Combining the 2, it's generally accepted that the Town will have 2-3 TPRs + 1 TPR for every Scum PR. It's not an exact/accurate formula because it also depends on how powerful the PRs are on each side, so it could be 2 v 1 or 3 v 0, but not say 2 v 3 or 4 v 0.

So, 3 Goons
in this game
vs 3 TPRs + 8 VTs is a bit of a stretch (I'm NOT taking anything we KNOW from the proceedings of the game into account yet). Scum should at least have 1 PR on their side.

Now, let's implement some knowledge: We had 2 flipped TPRs already.
I am claiming a TPR and so is EJ
. The underlined is not solid info to all players. Only >I< know my role for sure and only EJ knows his for sure, so theoretically either or both could be lying, but we do know we had
at least 2 TPRs at the start of the game
. Right?

Now let's assume all of the other living players are VTs (impossible proposition in practice, but a valid one in theory based on what
everybody knows
). This means one of myself/EJ is scum 99% of the time. If we are both PRs then one is very very likely scum, and if one of us is lying then they're likely scum. If either is lying and the rest of the players are VTs I can't see 3 TPRs vs 3 Goons because one was a Neapolitan which would have been VERY powerful, since they could hypothetically have given a hard clear each night. Combine that with a 50% for the "goon" who shoots Ruby to be poisoned and you know this would be one hell of a Town-sided setup, so even if one of myself/EJ is faking, the one NOT faking is also likely scum!!!

But wait! Some of you already know they are no VTs. This means Scum will have at least one other TPR other than the one between me and EJ.

Let me stop at this for now and see how you guys perceive what I'm saying and what your thoughts are. (Note that I have yet to implement my result on Carca in any way)

Another point (not related to the above) is the Ruby Red's flip. It says 50% Toxic Goo. The Original/Sample role doesn't include such a %age. This leads me to believe either Scum also have a Toxic Goo (thus the probability split) or Town was deemed to be too strong for the Scum to handle with a typical Toxic Goo (one that would poison who targets them 100% of the Town).

Please also discuss this proposition if you will.

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Post Post #2220 (ISO) » Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:07 am

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4 days later bad skin pale af dark eyes

I spent two days sleeping more than 12 hours with a fever and I'm a contractor so that means I'm missing out on money this fortnight :[

I am sick and I'm not happy about you pretending I would play this as though I was faking it. You talked me into townreading you day one for game related reasons. Return the courtesy, stop the angleshooting and try to sort me for reals. >:C
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Post Post #2221 (ISO) » Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:11 am

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Rc ran labyrinth mafia which had 3 mainscum + 1 traitor in 15p so we're almost certainly looking at 3 mainscum with power roles here

also v much doubt town has 3 investigatives ungated... so...
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Post Post #2222 (ISO) » Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:46 am

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In post 2220, the worst wrote:
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4 days later bad skin pale af dark eyes

I spent two days sleeping more than 12 hours with a fever and I'm a contractor so that means I'm missing out on money this fortnight :[

I am sick and I'm not happy about you pretending I would play this as though I was faking it. You talked me into townreading you day one for game related reasons. Return the courtesy, stop the angleshooting and try to sort me for reals. >:C
Ran that image through FBI filing system, and it seems you're not registered. But why do I still feel you could be scum? Shall I consult the CIA??

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Post Post #2223 (ISO) » Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:47 am

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In post 2221, the worst wrote:almost certainly looking at 3 mainscum
OP stated 3 scum, no need to guess
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Post Post #2224 (ISO) » Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:47 am

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In post 2222, Almost50 wrote:
In post 2220, the worst wrote:
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4 days later bad skin pale af dark eyes

I spent two days sleeping more than 12 hours with a fever and I'm a contractor so that means I'm missing out on money this fortnight :[

I am sick and I'm not happy about you pretending I would play this as though I was faking it. You talked me into townreading you day one for game related reasons. Return the courtesy, stop the angleshooting and try to sort me for reals. >:C
Ran that image through FBI filing system, and it seems you're not registered. But why do I still feel you could be scum? Shall I consult the CIA??
+1 :twisted:
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