mini normal 2042: labeled pictures meme mafia (game over)

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VOTE: Krazy
Nothin personal buddy
Just
I'm 90% sure it's illegal for us to roll the same alignment

Let's Get Biblical!

Locktown

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VOTE: Krazy
Nothin personal buddy
Just
I'm 90% sure it's illegal for us to roll the same alignment

Uhm, we were the same alignment and you mislynched my mason partner, or have you already blocked that out of your memory?

Let me think about that

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VOTE: Krazy
Nothin personal buddy
Just
I'm 90% sure it's illegal for us to roll the same alignment

Uhm, we were the same alignment and you mislynched my mason partner, or have you already blocked that out of your memory?

Let me think about that

Yes
Yes I am officially in denial that game ever happened

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Oh yeah, and then we were the same alignment but we both replaced out, but I'm not sure if you actually know about that alt atm

That time I was incorrectly scumreading you too lol

gasp
must've been during my mass burnout a couple of weeks back! I wanna know who the alt is.

Hey Krazy, nice to see you again - can you help me lynch FWS?

for the intents and purposes of this exercise I am now Krazy

VOTE: Floofy wyatt sheepy

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Ugh Shoshin schadd_ musta sold us out
Let's blow this joint

VOTE: flooflez

[the worst]

No Keyser's gif was brilliant, the sheep in wolf's clothing has been promoted to IC status

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I'm town... it's a bit absurd that you'd vote me (one of the few players trying to make things happen) over the players who aren't doing anything, or are actively lobbying against doing anything. It's also absurd that Key would suggest I'm scum and that it was a "necessary" vote without voting himself.

Wolfy

If you know how, I'd be interested. Always wanted to be psychic.

Bad but >rand town

How do I know that someone who hasn't done anything is scum?

You're not evaluating a single player's alignment in a vaccum so that question isn't responsive to the issue. You're comparing alignments in relation to other players. If you see three players, one who isn't doing anything, one who is actively lobbying against doing anything, and one who is actively trying to scumhunt, which one do you think is more likely to be town and which do you think is most likely to be scum?

Technically towny
Wikipedia towny
Wolfy on page 2

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VOTE: Shoshin
also down to policy flooflez with extreme prejudice

[the worst]

Why are you shouting?

Why should we not shout?

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I believe in god
and the only thing that scares me
is Keyser Soze

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I thought you had a better grasp for my methods by now Shosh!

Why do you think I voted you?

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don't forget I heavy metadove you in Labyrinth and am pretty sure I have some solid alignment tells

Haven't had a chance to flex em yet but I am READY

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weow l-1
VOTE: Flooflez

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daycop guilty on Rel
Nice pocketing attempt my wrinkly friend

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yo if anyone is a dayvig please speak up
I have an idea

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Keyser L-1'd Shoshin as soon as she started townposting
sadly this is low key town indicative for Keyser

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You just put her wagon L-3
How does that feel?

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o boy

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Nah, Key's scum.

I was hoping for a scum roll with the worst. But got something entirely different...

ok fair
we would be a hot mess of a scumteam

hey guys! just fresh out of the newbie queue, and looking forward to see the outside world! i would say im confused/bemused..RVS here seems wackier..

also hi the worst, hi irrel!

@tw: why did you change your avatar? i liked the yellow duck pic more..

XWING! <3 welcome to your first non newbie queue game. rvs is usually more standard... this list is largely old buddies who've been playing together a lot lately so we're going at it extra hard. (I actually think rvs in the newbie queue has an elephent of forced friendliness/interaction as well, out of interest)

The avatar change is at the request for a game I'm comodding! it'll be floofy and yellow again once that's finished.

this guy seems like a funny-weird guy..i'm town leaning on this particular statement addressed to shoshin (NOT the slot yet)..like i take it like some kind of reverse psychology thing..anyway that's just my gut talking..i mean i dont think scum would be playing this scummy? or is this wifom haha..

can you see a clear mindset in Flooflez' posting so far which you can identify as coming from town? I guess where I'm coming from it makes sense for scum to throw shit at the wall during rvs whereas town usually swings by from an angle of trying to solve things

Can you throw me a couple of quotes from him maybe that have you swinging town there?

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Shoshin has rolled scum. ;>

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I believe in god
and the only thing that scares me
is Keyser Soze

okay i think im feeling out of place here haha..like i dont even get this i dont know what to ask
like tw, what does this mean?
okay, this is definitely not like newbie queue haha

have you seen the film The Usual Suspects? it's a '95 neo noir mystery flick, one of the greatest movies of all time, no exaggeration

Read and watch nothing about it....dive in and enjoy
(if you like movies that is!)

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the worst knows this isn't my scum game because he's seen it before.

I thought you had a better grasp for my methods by now Shosh!

Why do you think I voted you?

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there's exactly two reasons and if you can slip into my mind to see either/both I'll stan your votepark.

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I wanna see why you think I voted you--cross my heart I'll explain afterwards.

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also I'm aware that you are cognisant of me underdelivering on reciprocal deals being a strong scumtell so I'm doing this very carefully

pedit: was that rvs t-sizzle?

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t-chizzle felt more intuitive but it also sounds too much like Tchill which is confusing

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FFs is going to be a mistake. Mobile and still on page one but

VOTE: elephant

Thanks for the welcome

t-chizzle felt more intuitive but it also sounds too much like Tchill which is confusing

Nice to meet you who. I’m only online nights so my meta is obvtowb effort posts as a couple players in the game know. I don’t do interactions that much except when I can spare it. I am very interested to see how an early wagon peaked so fast though.

VOTE: teacher

Keyser towny

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@xw, I agree that Flooflez' playstyle is (while bizarre) fairly lucid and easy to parse

Not sure I've seen anything I like from town there either, so I'm rather digging the strange middle ground you're finding yourself in as well. :>

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THE WORST IS SHOSHIN ALWAYS OVER-DEFENSIVE

yes
historically her defensiveness strongly lacks conviction as scum

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OK

UNVOTING

why unvote here?

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I mean your stated reads seem to be

{keyser}
{the world}
{shoshin}

====> Sheeping us to ====>

{keyser, ?Shoshin?}
{?Shoshin?, the world}
{}

you don't feel any sense of urgency to pressure another slot?

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mmk why Krazy?

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w i l d

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how so?

You’re very ‘nice’... possessing a kind aura (very unique to this site ).

I second this! I reflexively scumread it but town!xw is just very sweet as well. :>

Xwing is town. Also liking Sheep for town, although he's doing his best to make me want to lynch him.

VOTE: Irrelephant

why are you TRing sheep? with quotes pls

that take is extremely cold unless you're counting *you* in the bottom "half"

eh maybe Carmen can be scum

where is Carmen scum?

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why are you TRing sheep? with quotes pls

Pretty much just the comment about Shoshin's wiki.

He'd be the first of my townreads to be reevaluated, but I'm painting with broad strokes here

.

Striking bc you seemed more confident in the post I quoted, sell me

Why is this town indicative why does it fit into town!Flufflez' trajectory and mindset?

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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

trying to evaluate if I deserve "devoid of town" at this point
in a game w/o Nauci shouting about how good I am as scum I kinda feel like you should be townreading me here? idk @tw, @keyser, @shoshin am I wrong

dumb I felt like I had solved the game there for a minute
eh I still kinda feel that way actually

uuuuhhhhhh I feel this is an easy solve but also you're straddling the PoE

I think i have high expectations of your towngame.

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TOWN
{tw}
{xwing}
{Shoshin}
{Keyser}

{Krazy, Carmen}

very high sort equity
{Relly, teacher} ~ this has ............... 1.2 scum in it
{Flufflez}


i'm busy tdy but someone sort Carmen for me and I'll give them bread

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yes. don't worry tho us 3 are the townblock

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guess

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SEPTEMBER 27TH, 1998

hm. not longer after my 5th bday
close

[schadd_]

;

quack

quack

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I will consider policying FWS if nothing strikes me on the readthrough. Please use regular caps? Pretty please? I hear there is free bread on offer.

as a wise lady I knew once said.... wolfy pop in

also gimme that bread

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Its your frickin bread by ISO, though I appreciate the readslist. On a quick ISO, I dont see you explaining the hard town Xwing. Youve obviously played with them, and I dont see reasoning yet.

yeah....that's correct

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also down to policy flooflez with extreme prejudice

Why was mine a wolfy pop in but this wasnt?

Dayvig this lmfao

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pedit: was that rvs t-sizzle?

Yes. Id also be cool with Tchill, from my one game with them Id view it as a compliment.

Tchill is fantastic, agreed.

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need to work harder on this later but busy

Teacher = t-sizzle
Tchill13 is a good town player on MafiaScum

safe to ignore this, all socialposting

Bbl!!

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is it as easy as Teacher/Floofz?
relrel what do you reckon?

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No interest in any of my questions then?

what should I respond to? sorry, I didn't really see anything there to engage with

I think I'm kinda subconsciously waiting for your next catch up

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Keyser.. blow me away?

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You blew me away.

~swoon~
if I have a paranoid scum theory it's you atm
but I don't think you're scum
<3<3

It's the first game the worst hasn't looked scummy - should we be worried?

I HAVE MY MUSE BACK BINCHES

inb4 my n1 streak resumes

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scum-Irrelephant doesn't dive in to save scum-Shoshin's bacon here.

wk tho?

Is this a take? lmao
I hard anti-s/s read this as well, I think it's >rand t/t or s/t with TMI from scum-Irrelephant

Not something I'd wager a game on but a very decent starting read

what does white knighting have to do with this? what do you think made scum Irrelephant feel like this was a good time to swoop in and defend his scum buddy? or are you just being a contrian here?

Not confident and n returning for 48 and have a stronger joint sr (Ie at least 1 is wolf) on CarmenElephant than on iso you.

Talk to me about why you scumread either or s/s read them? when did you form this opinion and did you not feel the urge to pressure em earlier?

No interest in any of my questions then?

what should I respond to? sorry, I didn't really see anything there to engage with

I think I'm kinda subconsciously waiting for your next catch up

I really do want more from you on the sheep and Keyser reads.

ok! o7

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let's transition from exchanging posts to having a conversation
what do you want on keyser/sheep? if you say "ESPLAIN" I'm going to yell. if you're not sure where to start compare our reads and talk about if you can see my POV or not?

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I don't really have a sense for how you've actually achieved that read and I feel like I've been markedly more transparent in my thought process than you have, so far.

apologies for being rude but you do have a higher onus than I do to prove yourself town, if you're town. : / I'm challenging you to take your game to another level, stretch your brain and let your intentions shine through.

so I am not inclined to overexplain my reads at a juncture when I can use concealed information to get inside your head! on the contrary I'd like to know how you're reading them / whether you can see where my reads might have come from / if you agree with my reads or not etc. etc.

also don't sweat about mobile posting. roughly 95% of my mafia career is phoneposting, so I always prefer concise conversational posts!

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I guess I haven't put as much time into parsing your post 220 as I should have teacher, sorry. It kinda slipped through to the keeper while I was at work.

OK I'm gonna go have a read and get back to you if I smell some talking points on those two slots. I might be being harder than I need to on you.

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ACTUALLY

if you can roughly tier your readlist I will love you forever! I'll read it in tandem with 220

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nvm I'm bored in bed so got it down to something like

teacher
xwing
tw
Fl00fz
null => Krazy, Rel, Carmen
Keyser

Blegh I'm not really sure where to start on this more engaging conversation. let me try picking into your reads a little

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so to kick shit off I have meta experience with keyser which is swinging me a certain way a little here. in American presidents mafia I was scum who did an fps strategy to try and coast while fakeclaiming TPR and when I unveiled the fps Keyser took to the thread stating an absolute love for how genius the play was for town!me while skitter30/Nauci etc. were throwing down why it was wolf bullshit from me

in watchmen wanted I had townbinned Keyser in spite of of his repeated ~~conventional scumtells~~ because I think he's the kind of player who just.... his personality looks like a wolf. he doesn't make any effort to play to an anticipated town meta/site townmeta as town and I'm frankly terrified of how his scumgame is gonna look when I see it.

I called him the sheep in wolf's clothing and I stand by it. level 1/blankety scumtells don't work on Keyser.

I've gone a few levels deep with keyser in my mind and like I think nulltown is genuinely the correct place for him. I will stare you straight in the eyes here and tell you:

Keyser -- I liked the early tone of GIFS and 19, though I cant explain why.

scum!ser Soze will have no problem faking tonal/casual stuff when he's scum I'm p sure

this is a personality soulread but I think others who've played w him will likely back me up here

I found the unannounced L-1 concerning, especially with the later request for no quicklynch, so am interested in

The Worst

explaining why it would be a townread.

the unannounced L-1 should be treated strictly as NAI as it comes at random from

1) town!Keyser who did it to produce content (fyi same reason I leaped into the thread by fakewagoning Shoshin while offwagoning Shoshin's choice of wagon ), or
2) scum!Keyser who oOoooOOo spooky wanted to L-1 poor towny Shoshin, or
3) scum!Keyser who had no regard for Shoshin's life, or
4) town!Keyser who figured if anyone actually lol hammered town!Shoshin (v v strong player) d1 they'd be scumreading, or
5) whatever!Keyser who was just in the mood

his twisted emoji shows cognisance of what he was doing so you should probably redact finding that alignment indicative unless you're vibing a pretty strong agenda from it? in which case hmu because ^^^^ as above ^^^^ I don't feel a strong agenda of any particular kind

As for Keyser himself, I echo Xwing's question of what was giving you wolfy vibes about that slot as of 106? The naked vote on me seems a bit much of a reaction to what was admittedly a forced post, and potentially an early jump to an incipient wagon. While I liked later posts (145, 148, 171), on balance I think this slot is posting alot without providing much. Null scum within rand.

ironically I actually think this last paragraph is probably swinging towards being busyworky more so than keyser's posting has been. I agree his more recent posts have been more likeable, do you see them as coming from any alignment or the other?

appreciate it's kinda a nullscum via PoE read rather than a GOTCHA SCUMFUCK DIE WOLF kind of read but do you really think he's coasting by as scum or just having a good time....?

you see what I'm getting at here right

I'm not gonna go into why I'm nulltown on him rn because I'd actually really appreciate you rediving the deep dark depths of your take on Keyser and seeing where you find yourself after you strip back surface reads. I don't think you've put tonnes of time into reaching this read, and if you're town I think that's the reason you chose me to reach out to!

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After a long (30 seconds) of consideration I have decided to use normal case.

I was kinda starting to enjoy your shtick but I respect the decision to stop it too

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let's talk keyser first I have a greater deal of lucidity around where I stand on that slot, and it's also more nullerful than I want it to be so if you can talk me into moving him up or down I'll be super super happy

I think i need to be in front of a PC to properly quote/work through my feelings w Floofz tbqh, I also don't feel a strong sense of urgency in plowing the hell out of my scumreads.....yet



btw as an aside do you know about the 33, 49 and 112 viaaaaaaa

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[post]33[/post], [post]49[/post] and [post]112[/post]

Ik bbcode is a little annoying on phones so understood if you're not about this. give it a go and hit preview real quick and you'll see what it does

post numbers are random btw

look at this, the worst apprentice teaching the teacher.

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btw as an aside do you know about the 33, 49 and 112 viaaaaaaa

I borked the fuck outta this.

meant to say:

Do you know about the |post| tags? you can either like posts 33, 49 and 112, or posts 33, 49 and 112

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VOTE: Shoshin

oh I misread the twisted emoji and didn't actually really register you not realising she was L-1....despite the fact you said it right after...... ack

That's a lot of wasted brain power

eh point stands, it's just less interesting than I thought it was to reflect on lmfao

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Are you getting

not-scum-partner vibes

from FLUFFY's and xwing's cross examination with eachother? - legit/earnest search for meaning and mutual understanding...

xwing affectionately called FWS a "funny-weird guy"...

Yes!!
Normally I'd look for little drive-by things like the "stahp teh capz >:c" as theatre indicative because it's an easy """stance""" to take without...actually playing the game... but here I actually think xw is trying to slip behind floof's eyes and really struggling if that makes sense

this is kinda one of the things that's townpinging me abt xw but you quantified it better than my brain was doing

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Carmen

I akshully really like this post as well. Starting to worry that I've been allocating too much to the posts of Carmen's which I liked and not enough to the less comfortable pings from Carmen.

putting her at re-evaluation order #1

fyi I also liked the post above wrt teacher for a solving POV buuuut I also think the stuff you think is less scum indicative is stuff that teacher is good at faking tbqh so I'm a little bit hesitant to null the read much without working with him

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oh someone did ask me about my meta reads on you and shoshin I think?
You can read American Presidents, Watchmen Wanted, and ummm I guess nothing else at this time lol
but those two games are ones Keyser was in (shoshin was in the first of the two) and I just think I've got a good feel for Keyser
tbf Keyser's scumgame is better than Shoshin's so if I'm wrong on one it's Keyser

while I'm at it
I'm sheeping Shoshin on calling tw locktown
and xwing is playing like I'd expect given [redacted] reasons

your reads are pretty Heavy
also Keyser has scum meta? reminder for me to dig it up

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If you have played with teacher before, how does town-teacher go about forming his reads... are they slow developing... weak.. strong stances? (I.e insta-locktowning someone)... hedging around null..?

I've read games he's been in, we played one marathon together where I realised he was scum n1 and yelled it all of d2, he NK'd me and won so I'm very wired towards an early sort of his slot!

My impression is that I think he forms reads reasonably slowly but appears to be very capable of intuitive + well explained trajectories as town (i.e. you can read his read on someone through his posts and go "omg man I can see how he's gotten there") if that helps answer

I also like the comment that he's somewhere on the skitter/stungun wavelength, tho I don't think he has skitter's CRUSHING TIDAL WAVE OF COMMON SENSE catchup style nor stungun's real time text walls from what I've seen.


pedit: your reads being Heavy is a cue for me to think harder about your reads l8r

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Do you believe FLUFFY’s strong reaction to Shoshin’s early “defensiveness” is rational/natural/alignment indicative?

I kinda plucked this for scum indicative. I think he identified her as LHF and tried to chomp down on it--realiasd the mislynch equity was low and UNVOTED

his earlier posting is consistent with heavy pressuring of Shoshin while generally ignoring other slots and the fact he

UN!!!VOTED!!!!!!

during a time when the rest of us were flirting between heavily pressuring other slots

he has more of an active conversing style rather than the MafiaScum.net passive conversing style which is vogue atm making me think he's probably got off-site experience in a community with pretty decent vibes

I think this is an active conversing wolf approach to town!shoshin sod1 more than it's t/t and I think it soft-spews town!Shoshin if Floofz flips red

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sheep let's talk about Carmen and teacher
pretend one of them has to be scum and help me figure out which it is

Out of the two, I feel like teacher is the more likely scum? Carmen could go either way but teacher's 202 is very poor and nothing else seems to pull him back up.

tbh talk to me on why you feel like there's exactly 1 scum in here, I think the two have mad s/s equity

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@rel I'm saying I liked this post but techer also has a decent scum game.

Spoiler:

My suspicions surrounding

teacher

are based on:
- struggling to see teacher's posts coming from town mindset (manufactured posting?)
- I don't believe their posts (tone?)
- something pinging me about their null/nullish reads on Carmen/Irrellephant: is he holding back what he truly thinks of them? Or are the reads fake?

THAT SAID, taking a step back, his tiers of reads aren't actually that bad (except for me as bottom scum).

Is he finding it hard to articulate clearly his suspicions into pronounced/clear thoughts? What I perceive as hedging/suspicious associations could be simply teacher stuggling to sort the playerlist.

OK, writing this post, teacher has gone from a scum read to a

null scum read

. Well will you look at that!

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nvm I'm bored in bed so got it down to something like

teacher
xwing
tw
Fl00fz
null => Krazy, Rel, Carmen
Keyser

Blegh I'm not really sure where to start on this more engaging conversation. let me try picking into your reads a little

This is kinda how I'm reading his tiered reads atm. I like his questions at me as well but I think they come from either alignment--what comes next will spew him I think.

the Krazy call-out I'm not sure... what there is to like....? we've just started the game and I think it's net slightly >rand scummy to call out a near nil poster

you get the towncred for being the one to go "ó hey lurker, post!!" but if you actually feel their lurking is scum indicative you put them on alert if that makes sense

idk maybe I've thought too much about shit like this but there's a couple of people who I think aren't posting things they should be posting, rather than yelling @ them I'd rather wait a coupla days then blast them

what did you like about the call out sorry?

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What have been the most emphatic reads of the game so far?


Irrellephants town read of Soshin...

Carmen’s town read of FWS...

Shoshin’s town read of the worst...


Missing any to complete a top 5?

*raises hand*

me => xwing

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I'm feeling spicy today Mr. Soze. ;>

pedit: okay fair, it's likely more null/nai-catchup than I'm giving it credit for

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FAIR
I DIG YOUR THINKING

think it's too early in d1 by the time that read list dropped for the call-out to be like... valid but I'll pay that it's not faintly scum scented the way I thought

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TOWN
{tw}
{xwing}
{Shoshin}
{Keyser}

{Krazy, Carmen}

very high sort equity
{Relly, teacher} ~ this has ............... 1.2 scum in it
{Flufflez}


i'm busy tdy but someone sort Carmen for me and I'll give them bread

TOWN
{tw} - obvscum guilty child
{xwing} - ~92% town, low chance of being wrong
{shoshin} - ~ 88%ish town
{keyser} - 80%ish town
NULL IN TIERS
{Mr.relephant} - slightly above rand? 76% town?
{Krazy, Carmen} - sitting at rand for different reasons, 75%
{teacher} - around 65%, could go back up but will need a slingshot
{flooflez} - 60% maybe same deal, more scum than town indications


I am bad at weighting reads but this is roughly where I'm @

but the fact that most of his reads were null flavored is scum scented imo

Oh yeah I think my read list is well timed for this post lmaoo

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SCUM shld be above teacher! oops

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I'd rather wagon Carmen atm
I'd say Krazy as well but he is certified bloody good at mafia and will just do his thing regardless of if he's wagoned or not..

pedit: yeah ok I sheeped you slightly on my harder lock of Shoshin and bumping Keyser up into there

BTW Rel trying a new method of sorting you in case you didn't notice
Don't think too hard about it
Just enjoy the surprise.

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well
I am an obvscum guilty child

{b/@mod please confirm I am scum ITT[

[b/]

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day 1 starts now and ends november 13th at 12:00 central US time; in 12 days, 19 hours, 46 minutes

we're fien Keyser


Pedit: LOOK AT THIS AND TELL ME XWING ISN'T LOCKTOWN

btw xw feel free to throw questions about, what stuff means out there, use

Spoiler:

tags if you want. I'm happy to answer them via reciprocal

Spoiler:

tags so as not to clutter up the thread

if you have questions about like. what ever possessed someone to say something for example. throw that out for sure, that's always good value.

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While Soshin.... core town through meta?

ohoho don't worry
she will personally eat that question mark

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Random question stage:

What are your all-time top 5 favourite horror films?

Train to Busan
Evil Dead (the original!)
The Conjuring
Probably Scream if that counts
The Descent
Tentatively A Quiet Place should be on this list tbh

Is shoshin experienced at playing mafia? I feel like if she is/was a trust tell that would be her getting used to playing a different alignment and she might have been able to copy her playstyle better now? I'm asking this because I'm not sure how much weight we should put on the meta read
What's Carmen at? I don't want any accidental hammer but I'm willing to join a wagon.

shadeh

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because floof wants to mislynch you and can't focus on actually sorting slots tbh

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floof are you around RIGHT NOW?

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i'm at work but we can jam like, incognito/brieflyish

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happy Halloween Krazy <3

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You should hmu on discord for horror film chats
Tom#4827
I have so many feelings

LTROI is another masterpiece. I think I'm accidentally prejudiced by how much I enjoyed the book (though the film was a strong adaption, all things considered)

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floof are you around RIGHT NOW?

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someone keep me company? :{

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tell Carmen I said "hi" back but I'm STILL NOT TALKING TO HER.

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town!Shoshin
tw/shoshin t/t, heavy meta dived her lategame
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=76264

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=76303

Relly/Shoshin t/t
viewtopic.php?f=50&t=76215

s!tw v. t!shoshin (I had a grand scheme to mislynch her early then reached lategame ~the same time as labyrinth and it fucked up)
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s!tw t!Rel t!shoshin
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scum!Shoshin
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yes it re-invigorated the fuck out of me

I'm also in like two onsite games atm (one rep in one this one) and one off-site as opposed to juggling like an average of 7 or 8 at a time before?? and I feel a lot more engaged

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I am always here ;>

What's your take on Keyser Soze?

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NULL IN TIERS
{Mr.relephant} - slightly above rand? 76% town?
{Krazy, Carmen} - sitting at rand for different reasons, 75%
{teacher} - around 65%, could go back up but will need a slingshot
{flooflez} - 60% maybe same deal, more scum than town indications

also i'm objectively wrong on 3 of these reads and need to shove em higher
which 3 IYO?


pedit: yay me too! can you tl;dr why? obviously without the benefit of having firsthand meta
recycled/leaning on thread meta is fien

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i think my other question was probably more exciting. fark :<

would you say keyser is strong town for you or d1 pass?

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hrmph
what's your mafia experience like?

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mind if I ask for an off-site profile link?

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I'm not sold on Mister Relly yet either
What's got you townreading teacher?

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Ah, up to you. I just thought I'd mention the code because when I was first told about it my mind exploded into 1,000 pieces of happy.

I do tend to go to those post numbers and check intuitively + contextually whether I agree with the content so if it's not too much trouble I can definitely say it helps me

up to you tho

Anyway let's catch up up when you're back. This ~week is a crazy time for all, I know I have been and will be busy with Halloween stuff. (I just also benefit from having no life. )

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mind if I ask for an off-site profile link?

Sorry! I'd rather not have my internet profiles be able to be linked together.

No problems
You'll get blasted with my current feelings wrt with what I know of you, not what I can glean of you
PREPARE YOURSELF

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Reading.

carmen locktown irl for liking buble

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michael bubblebath

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so someone (including FWS bc fuck how do I read this) talk to me about FWS

so most of his opening posts are like, shiptoasting and fluffing which obviously i don't hate but i'm gonna sift through them for what i didn't like originally obviously

SHOSHIN YOU REITERATING THE WILL TO LYNCH ME IMPLIES SERIOUSNESS AND CONFIDENCE THAT FEELS RATHER FAKE GIVEN THE FACT THAT ITS PAGE TWO.
ALSO THIS

Fluffy sheep is lying and pushing a pro-scum agenda.

Pretty good lynch for today.

PRETTY GOOD LYNCH? FRANKLY, I'M OFFENDED. AGAIN, CONFIDENCE AND STUFF.

considering we start with like
a list of names to work with
projecting confidence and being fussy about SFA is like, how mafia games start. she's obviously not outright for powerpolicylynching you d1 right off the bat and there's no element of TMI in her earlier posting
i'm not sure what you're actually perceiving as scummy here like at all, pretty good lynch > pretty good wagon is obviously a matter of semantics and fmpov doesn't betray an intent to burn d1 or anything like that

talk to me about this? or were you just looking for someone to sink your teeth into to get stuff started?

ALSO FREAKING OUT OVER GETTING VOTES IN EARLY GAME WHEN WE'RE DEBATABLY STILL IN RVS REEKS OF SURVIVALISTIC

so......................?
not a scumtell
from a meta pov more consistent with town!shoshin because not frozen and values her own survival => she is strong as town

I JUST REALIZED SOMEONE MIGHT BE CONFUSED BY THIS

Really bad vote, Carmen. Really bad.

THIS IS BELITTLING THE VOTE, ATTEMPTING TO MAKE IT SEEM LIKE A BAD PLAY, SO IT IS SURVIVALISTIC

Carmen, why did you vote for me?

THIS IS NOT, BECAUSE IT IS INQUIRING SOMEONE'S VOTE AND ATTEMPTING TO PROGRESS THE SLOW EARLY GAME GAMESTATE
(ALSO 56 IS BY NO MEANS TOWN INDICATIVE, ITS RATHER EASY TO FAKE)

talk to me on why you think 37 => 56 comes from either town or scum?

SHOSHIN DO YOU STILL SCUMREAD ME

the hypocrisy in here is probably slightly town indicative and i'm annoyed i didn't parse this.

FREAKING OUT OVER GETTING VOTED IS STILL PRETTY SCUMMY

stuff like this is why i wanted your level of experience >:C
basically hard disagree but w/e

KEYSER TOWNIE

first townread literal verbatim of my townread on keyser slightly above; probably not scum indicative but certainly not town indicative

OK

UNVOTING

i still think unvoting here when shoshin's mislynchability drops but her towniness hasn't really increased via the metric FWS seems to apply is probably >rand wolf
especially when there's tonnes of slots he hasn't expressed a read on? anyway we spoke about this in 139 thru 142 and it's a weak tell

SHOSHIN ITS REALLY HARD TO TOWNREAD YOU WHEN YOU MAKE POSTS LIKE 2042

i probably like the fact that FWS is aware that shoshin isn't getting townier by his own metric

why am i town with no reasoning given? are you buddying me?
why are you voting for irrel?
side note: i chuckled at your comment on FWS

4. WHY AREN'T YOU CONSIDERING THAT CARMEN IS BUDDYING ME AS WELL? LIFE LESSON: TOWNREADS AREN'T BUDDYING. BUDDYING IS CHARMING SOMEONE AND A TOWNREAD CAN GO WITH IT, BUT A TOWNREAD ALONE IS NOT BUDDYING INDICATIVE.

based on this + response #5 as well FWS locktown irl

FUTURE THE WORST: GO BACK AND SEE IF HIS TAKE ON CARMEN MAYBE?BUDDYING HIM IS TOWNY AND INTUITIVE
THANKS CUTIE

this exchange is unsurprisingly at level 2 more town indicative for xwing than FWS i think
i feel like FWS felt the need to challenge xwing's points (/work with them) but didn't necessarily feel the conviction to actually respond to everything if that makes sense

SEPTEMBER 27TH, 1998

hm. not longer after my 5th bday
close

139?

i had mental note'd to come back to this--i didn't really rate your early high noise low pressure push on shoshin, nor the fact you seemed to struggle with sorting any slot outside of shoshin at the time and your unvote in 135 had me >rand scum on you. might be reconsidering this tbqh.

sheep let's talk about Carmen and teacher
pretend one of them has to be scum and help me figure out which it is

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220 is interesting, does anything in there give you a ping either way?

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4. No explanation on the worst townread at all. Also rather interesting. Not really sure what to glean from this? Possibly an associative tell.

obviously this take is pretty boring for me, also kinda dislike that you've isolated a single textbook scummy take and used it as your only comment on the post
anything else about 220 that you liked/didn't like? be as reachy as you need, i want to look into your soul more than i want to sort teacher based on 220 atm

Is shoshin experienced at playing mafia? I feel like if she is/was a trust tell that would be her getting used to playing a different alignment and she might have been able to copy her playstyle better now? I'm asking this because I'm not sure how much weight we should put on the meta read
What's Carmen at? I don't want any accidental hammer but I'm willing to join a wagon.

i originally disliked this tug-back on the semi-consensus Shoshin townread because like. you're townleaning the two people who backed it up. it feels slightly disingenuous that you're still kinda focused on her when it's 11 times out of 10 best to just let her do her own thing

in retrospect i think calling your townleans into question on something which you should believe but don't organically feel is probably slightly towny

I am talking about why players are scum. Like, it's absurd that people think I'm talking about myself when I'm actually talking about others. I just happen to be talking about others in relation to myself, which is the only way anyone can talk about others.

"I'm not scum because I can't be!"
Are you guys sure that it's a townclear?

Screw this I'm voting Shoshin

Vote: Shoshin

i mean tbf we've already established that cognisance of own position in gamestate/wagonomics is town indicative for shoshin
i'm also aware that this is fairly easy to fake as scum and she's being hard meta townread by myself and Rel, imo two people who are very good at keeping our harder meta reads in check (but of course you don't know our styles / how jaded and difficult we are )

okay this vote kinda checks out imo, it's probably just imo poor play to pressure someone who reacts to pressure in a way which lessens the amount of time she can spend working on solving the game and SLAYING SCUM

Thanks

i've obviously made efforts NOT to heavily quantify the towntells/anti-scum tells I'm seeing from Shoshin here
so I'd really appreciate your thoughts when you've had a squizz

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FUTURE THE WORST: GO BACK AND SEE IF HIS TAKE ON CARMEN MAYBE?BUDDYING HIM IS TOWNY AND INTUITIVE
THANKS CUTIE

HI PAST THE WORST
it's a very very weird take
carmen is townleaning him but isn't really tolerating his shit / giving him the time of day

i'd actually buy scum!carmen trying to play the 0 charisma card wrt her flooflez read before i'd buy her trying to buddy him

thanks future the worst

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I don't think that was a take on him saying I was buddying him, it was a counterexample to the idea that townreading someone is buddying.

i agree!

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i think past tw was trying to bait someone into offering a take on FWS' buddying comment
no idea what future tw was trying to do tho, gotta keep an eye on that guy

can you talk me through your reads on the people in your PoE?

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wanna know a secret?

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hi shoshin <3

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quack

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wanna know a secret?

Sure, let's hear it.

i have a secret s/s read on teacher/rel :000

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don't tell anyone though

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I think Carmen is town because it reminds me of skitter interacting with you for the first time
I think Keyser is town because I liked his gif and I want him to be town

For the record, this post clears Irrelephant. He's town here.

i wanted him to be town for the nuance in the carmen read as well, but on deeper reflection i'm not actually convinced it clears him.
by way of example: as scum watching {town!carmen, town!shoshin} interact, it's easy to be reminded of other t/t conversations you've witnessed in the past. i also think it's distinctly possible as town to just be reminded of two players interacting in a previous game, for sure.

basically i arrived at net null on this post which is unfortunate because i feel like i should be able to glean more from it.

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Yes, yes, I can tell you're angry. I would ask you what you think scum in my position gains from the way I'm playing right now, though.

You get to argue that you're town in precisely the way you're arguing right now, while also offering substanceless, vague reads that don't look anything like a townie's reads. In other words, you get to play like scum while defending yourself with WIFOM.

^ this is a very good post, @Carmen
if you're town we're probably very very close to solving this game by sheer thunderous POE; so i think -sass +solving from your slot is liable to win us the game

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quack

ily schadd_

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I'm not concerned about getting mislynched today. Does that tell you anything?

yes:
that you want to appear as though you're not concerned about getting lynched today
bluntly if you're a mislynch we can afford a mislynch

but also i personally really don't want to lynch you atm so if you're cool w it i'd probably suggest swinging around towards being townie

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I'd actually rather Carmen didn't claim for the moment, if that's okay. For the record her conversation with Keyser needs to be resolved before we do anything else.

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Writing more words does not "being more townie" make. I've explained my reads.

Working with other townies does a townie make!
if every member of the town came in swinging and identified each other d1 every time we'd have a perfect town winrate, imagine that? :>

if I told you I had a n0 cop inno on Shoshin and we were in LyLo today what would you do different?

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Irrelephant is town.

Can you convince me real quick?

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hrmph fair

I feel like I should have a better read on Rel than I do rn but yeah the tinfoil Rel/teacher read earlier has me a tiny bit confbiased

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Okay that's very very valid. I'll need to have a think about that; I'll admit I've been reserving slightly because I thought Rel had a strong preference for TOWN for some reason. (maybe because he's good at it )

I guess principally the response I'd be inclined to come back with is the the PoE heavy gamestate means it makes sense for scum!Rrelephant to NOT come in swinging but to passively do things that look like town. But basically comparing this post with yours I'm finding you more convincing than the voices in my head.... Probability says this becomes sortable later anyway

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I'm coming around; I thought the timing of her reads and their weights in confidence originally FELT like town but given her shutdown when put under pressure I'm thinking she's anxious about being exposed for the lack of depth nuance etc. in her posting so has defaulted to a WIFOMy "scum!me would never be this uncharismatic!!!" response which is heavily wolf indicative

so she's trending down, Rel is trending up slightly but I probably need to re mesh my reads when I'm not running around a shopping centre.

Carmen/teacher have any anti associative moments?

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I think i ended up accidentally being the voice of reason I was looking for from another slot for myself. that was.....conveneint......

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outside of metaspam (due respect & I'll let you finish) what are your reads tho

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cause like wall posting everyone's finished games as either alignment and lining up sortability via meta is suuuuper fakable and is a mint excuse for tunnelling into hard reads if that makes sense? I wanna glimpse into your soul before you become metabot

FTR I have a very specific reason I'm currently mid tableflip on my meta with both alignments and this is part of it so compliance is greatly appreciated

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sure. Quick tiered read list before you dive? <333

if for no other reason, just because it's gonna make sorting me infinitely easier?

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btw did you catch on to my unreliable meta in previous games, or in this game?

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I'm pretty sure we just sort aggressively thru d1 and then lynch Carmen closer to deadline. her actual alignment isn't high info atm imo

I like a fair few of Krazy's reads there and the metabot feeling is loowww. prickly minor paranoia is lessened. :>

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Floofz current read on Shoshin?

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what does "WK" mean?
what does "ego" mean? havent been used here, but have read it multiple times in other games

WK => white knight => when a player defends another player in a way which make it seem like they know too much. Not always but usually scum indicative

Ego means egopost. Basically, people post it in a thread so that they have a contentless post but the thread will also appear in their "user's threads" list on their profile. Some players use this in a similar way to how yoh might use bookmarks, for example.

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I actually want to hammer Carmen.

schadd if you're here the pagetop is yours

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TOWN
{tw}
{shoshin}
{xwing}
{Krazy}
{keyser}
{flooflez}
{Relly}
{teacher}
{Carmen}
SCUM

actually think carmen is just caught scum at this point who's afk'd to antispew
her 0 charisma approach didn't work and when we called her out she disappeared into a puff of smoke
gg af

otherwise reads are about here....shoshin we're kinda out of sync particularly wrt xwing but also kinda with fl00fz. i think he has higher town equity the more i read into him. need to jam with you about this preferably before EOD because hopefully come sod2 we'll just be partner hunting.

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sorry to do this to you but i trust you to impart more common sense on an average day, than i can at capacity
did you have a read of my small wallpost here? if so can you see where i've kinda hit the tipping point with floofz and am leaning back towards town? do you disagree with the trajectory of this read & in isolation can you see a distinctly scummy mindset from Floofz / straight-up not see him as town?

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Actually VOTE: carmen

bbbbbbbbbbbbugger
i think this has to be resolve b4 endgame regardless of carmen flip

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VOTE: FWS

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no one....?

okay I am regretting reconsidering and I'm pretty sure that hammer is close to a scumclaim so
\( ö )/

I kinda think Carmen handled her scumminess as a TPR fairly poorly by not claiming at l-1 and being resolved via nk .... and then flaking.... but there were ongoing conversations particularly and especially around Flooflez' alignment when he impulsively hammered her. I like personally strongly agreed that the urge to hammer was strong yday but we had such fucking good rhythm going that actually following through on the lolhammer is tantamount to openly admitting you don't intend to solve alignments

Just reiterating two widely townread players (Shoshin and I) were assessing a slot with diverse reads (Floofz). The slot in question then lolhammered a townie

this reds 90% of the time and if this is the other 10% I want to talk more post-game and also like. tbh I don't really feel like solving around that possibility

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wrt Keyser being the nk what jumps to mind right away
1) I don't THINK he townread Irrelephant11
2) he didn't like Floofz and liked my just out of rvs scumcase on him
3) he didn't interact with my reassessment of Floofz that I recall
4) he was disputed and not obvtown
5) he was off wagon

kinda falling flat on my face here but eh
we lynch Floofz 100% of the time because even if he's town I don't want that kinda WIFOM in 3v2

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soulread 2 scum on wagon bee tee dubz

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if my soul is correct we nuke teacher after floofz
if my soul is incorrect Shoshin is probably even MORE ridiculously good than I thought she was, and also I am very bad at reading newbies

I don't wanna townread Relly rn but he's kinda floating out of my scumdar. unsure if concerning or I'm finally being good at mafia

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just one question before I finally descend into true paranoia madness: is Krazy scum who thought I would be mislynchable because the last time he saw me in action I didn't give a fuck abt mafia and did he expect to resolve his paranoiablock via ascending his read on Shoshin (who is objectively obviously town) and descending his read on me?

free hugs to anyone who can parse this for me bc paranoia is real

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quality antispew

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sorry to do this to you but i trust you to impart more common sense on an average day, than i can at capacity
did you have a read of my small wallpost here? if so can you see where i've kinda hit the tipping point with floofz and am leaning back towards town? do you disagree with the trajectory of this read & in isolation can you see a distinctly scummy mindset from Floofz / straight-up not see him as town?

I have no idea who this is directed at but I read the wallpost?

was at Shoshin

please WIM hard or were lynching you invariably

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basically like
be town and solve this hard
is what I'm after

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problem tho I don't think you're town

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Talk to me about Krazy?

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Does it read like scum avoiding producing content or town who's not woke yet to you? ignoring the fact it's hard for town to be all that woke following your hammer

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alright fine rel can be town
that's a fine point. I feel like teacher's scumgame relies on producing just enough to smell solvey and duck the PoE which is his exact approach to this game... {Fws, teacher} feels like a really easy solve but like. if town have all been super scummy and the scumteam is like "super meta shattering Shoshin" + Krazy or something I think we just lose anyway......

:O
Just noticed -

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*quack*

thank you <3

happy scum day tw!!

thank you <3

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teacher
1. liked his catch-up post, i read it as effort to sort everyone in the game..i think i mentioned this somewhere already..
2. kinda drops off near the end, might be coz of IRL stuff i dunno..
3. noted that he promised to get back on but didnt, might be coz the thread got locked before he had the chance to talk, could be busy..i dunno..giving benefit of the doubt..
4. i thought his theory on people shading his slot as scummy theory interesting..but need to hear more from him..

krazy
1. dislike early posts..got nothing to go with those..
2. dislike meta links..felt LAMIST..i dont expect everyone (i wont, honestly) to read up lots of past games to sort people, i believe in reading people in the actual game itself, though i understand that some people are good at meta and stuff, and it has some weight to a certain degree..but i've never played with all the others so it seems like a waste of time (for me anyway)..
3. i like that he put in effort to sort everyone after those early nothing posts..but i need to hear more from him too..

i feel they are both null/town to me..but if you want me to pick one over the other, i felt like krazy did more sorting than teacher in the overall game..

just parsing the language here and I'm a bit surprised by your
outcome

can you talk me through what parts of your numbered points on each player has you reaching a net nulltown read on both of them? I feel like there should be something more alignment indicative (and if not we should be able to find something more alignment indicative so we can lynch teh scumz! )

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say I had a parity cop result which said they're different alignments
which one's scum?

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A cop which gers a result each night confirming whether their target's alignment is the same as the previous night's target

e.g. if Shoshin is town and teacher is scum, if I n1'd Shoshin I'd get no result. n2 I'd get the result "your targets are not the same alignment"

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Me too. What about teacher is scum indicative fypov tho?

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i still kinda swing back to town on you
not sure if I'm being bad or sentimental bc we've towned together before

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didn’t talk because the hammer came before I logged on.

for what it's worth, this wasn't lost on me.
I'm sure you also understand that this is why I'm seeing negative associations between you & Floofz. I disagree that you explicitly need to be resolved before LyLo, but Floofz very probably does.

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this implies you swung scum on me at some point? where? why?

it's something I'm kinda constantly reevaluating especially since my strongest townread has you firmly PoE'd, below is an example

if my soul is correct we nuke teacher after floofz
if my soul is incorrect Shoshin is probably even MORE ridiculously good than I thought she was, and also I am very bad at reading newbies

I don't wanna townread Relly rn but he's kinda floating out of my scumdar. unsure if concerning or I'm finally being good at mafia

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floofz if you aren't scum who is
shoshin isn't btw

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it's kinda like writing a 50,000 word thesis on the fact the sky is blue, or that Irrelephant is awesome

it's very nice but it's also very obvious

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Why is no one amazed at my proof that sheep is scum
He’s not even denying it

Sheep is scum, but Im not his partner. Thus I view the solve as as an attempt to put us at Lylo even with a claimed scum.

Who is?

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i know i know lining up lynches is a vanilla scumtell
if i'm wrong just find a better solve, i'm really easy to talk out of things <3

And happy belated scumday.

thank you :>

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basically mostly just based on sheep hammer + offwagon NK
realistically high town equity good NKs (discounting possibility of reads/pockets etc.) were:

d1 final vote count

Carmen (5):

Krazy, Irrelephant11,

Shoshin

, teacher, FLUFFY WHITE SHEEP

FLUFFY WHITE SHEEP (1):

the worst

Irrelephant11 (1):

Carmen

not voting (2):

xwing,

Keyser Söze

with 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. day 1 ends november 13th at 12:00 central US time; in (expired on 2018-11-13 12:00:00)

mod notes

• i cannot prod carmen

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i'm voting fws who basically scumclaimed via hammering
shoshin is onwagon but probably the best player to n1 given Very Heavy Townreads and ability to solve
keyso is not voting at eod so NK gives away lowest amount of information and doesn't let us resolve Carmen wagon fully

off chance: scum is {xw, ???} (i.e. I'd lock {xw, FWS} at this point) and decided to 3d chess by leaving the Carmen wagon as entirely unresolved so that we'd nuke the crap out of it
i don't really see a scumteam of xw/fws playing it that way so kinda feeling xw has pretty low partner equity to fws which means once again i'm swinging heavily back to xw being town

i reevaluate this absolutely only ever if fws does green

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also sorry if the self-flattery there seems gross
i've been pretty heavily townread this game and was a viable offwagon option (esp vs. xwing who is more heavily disputed and if they're t/t is a goldmine to leave alive with Shoshin)

hope you get where i'm coming from analysis wise with that

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I mean you definitely might be right, tbh
It's not like I'm townreading teacher, I just feel like Sheep is very very very likely scum and it would be weird to keep him around intentionally?

also if sheep is town and we mislynch today we always, always lose this in LyLo

I'm already unintentionally solving for FWS partners rather than solving cleanly

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I kinda get the read dissonance on Floofz. every time I reread him I keep seeing things that could come from town, also like, everyone looks like town atm just Floofz looks the least town and I think the timing of teacher's towny moments might be scum indicative...

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I do still think that theory's likely because he delayed the results of his meta read on shoshin for a long time, when he clearly started the metadive at game start

I can't be totally sure I've figure out what happened though because it's also possible he accidentally just said 2024 because this is mini normal 2024

I think it's really obvious that if he has done a meta dive it hasn't been a town mindset meta dive though

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I was just sorta driving in the unspoken part of your post, I agree we've come to the same conclusion

would you like me to reaffirm your TW townread?

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xwing is town like 80% of the time imo
Krazy is town scented but what did you think of my intense paranoia ramble at sod2? nobody is helping me sort him so I'm not sure how I can solo it >; he's such a complicated dude

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{Shoshin, tw}
{xwing, Relly}
{teacher, Krazy}
{Floofz}

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KEYSER SÖZE
I WILL AVENGE YOU!!!!

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I mean his input so far feels orchestrated as hell and directly defies a lot of general town consensus which I think is probably slightly >rand scum but also it's well below his abilities as scum and his tonal stuff feels pure enough

his play so far just reads a bit blocky if that makes sense
like he's playing Minecraft and we're all playing call of duty or smth

I'm bad at analogies and invite everybody to please read my mind so I don't have to explain things anymore

tyia

pedit: seeya later Relly <3

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sorry to do this to you but yeah your analogy is bad i didnt get it at all..please try again?

breakin my heart!
like, there's something orchestrated feeling about his reads but it's kinda too soon to say anything decisive except for "it feels very strange"

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sheep, claim

Irrelephant, are you scum?

Huh

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Look a little bit upwards.

for...

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you're the best krazy<3
you town friend?

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til next time we're forced to murderise each other.

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RAD

Even tho sheep almost always reds any solving I do will be highly confriamrion biased so I am slacking off a bit to let you do your thing basically

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I think the timing of teacher's towny moments might be scum indicative.

I get it, but it truly is an availability thing. Its why I play on MS - I need the 14 day days because Ill only have 3 of them. Also why I have 1.5 games since the school year started. This is my first year as a teacher (Im a recovering lawyer).

it's ok, I like the long deadlines as well. i know sheer activity tells are pretty bad form and also not good ways to catch scum, just communicating how it struck me at a gut feel level
(also congratulations on your recovery--and on the teacherness!)

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we should probably still just lynch FWS
i feel like that was >rand town posting for vizzy but uh

also like

yeah

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actually i'd rather hammer once rel has posted if that's ok

pedit: fkn genius

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Alonzo what other name was in your role pm?

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I think that slot actually might be town? but we're still lynching it with fire

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Sadly so yeah

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Why vote Krazy?

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Mind talking me through your current reads? You have the benefit of having just caught up so I'm thinking mebbe you caught something I've missed?

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Do you think it's scum indicative to try and clear teams which you view as high equity tho?

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Well we will find out. Sure there’s a slight chance I could be wrong but I fell like there’s no point in telling the neapoliticab who is ascetic.

Concur
It's likely a scum PR if it exists

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It's like he can't quite decide if he wants to lolcat or not

like, vizzy is not a gamethrower lol

^^^^^^^^^
He does some weird shit sometimes but if he actually lolhammered a faux mason I'd be in AWE

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VOTE: Alonzo

Thanks for taking the slot. You're town irl

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DIE SCUM DIE

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Spoiler: for the duck

should I tell elephant or not?

Spoiler:

Nah <3
I actually forgot I had him voted lmao

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should've waited and pagetopped that Blegh

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hammer tests usually don't work unless you're in some deep af real time interactions and the person you're testing on is a tiny bit dumb

only hammer test I know that ever worked was done on me, so I can vouch for this

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The best way to hammer test is to hammer and see how they flip!

Well done teacher <3

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Sorry for this if you were town. I think you know we can't take you into LyLo though I promise we'll avenge you if this greens. Or... try


pedit: so much ^^^^
that was a messy slot to replace into

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like I've repped into caught flailing scum slots and caught flailing scum slots that were actually town so I know it's a stinky feel

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If this is town the scumteam this game is lit af

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*hairflip*

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aw.
http://s3.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/arti ... 068_v2.jpg

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Shpants

best shipping name


great modding schadd_ and really well played xwing & Krazy!!

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schadd_'s nodding skills are phenomenal; second only to his modding skills

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it was so confusingggg, I'll see if I can catch him on discord and see if he's like ok and stuff

I guess schadd_ made a really good point in the dead thread and I feel kinda dumb for gunning for his lynch based on largely mechanical stuff. in retrospect there were vizzy towntells I was just so confused and I think probably paranoid? because low brow scumplay like lolhammering someone I know is a TPR d1 is like.. a thing I would do..

also teacher I think you were awesomeness late d2 + d3 and I'm sorry stuff didn't go in your favour, and I took way too long to read you with any confidence or conviction or anything


also xwing..... dman you found my weakness of tring people i want to be town..... >:c

idk I'm not proud of my play this game but it was really fun.

also this setup was so neat

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it wasn't great at all
not even good but in the bigger picture, given vizzy's personality, like. lolhammering someone who is conftown to you then replacing out is indicative of something other than malice imo

like for sake of a parable (not the same bc vizzy just rep'd out due to to mafia exhaustion) in this other game I played once this one player was a 1s cop who claimed daytalk enabler (the only daytalk would have to belong to scum) when he was under pressure d2 then replaced out and we were all like.... the fuuu then it turned out he'd accidentally claimed his role from the wrong game and like he was probably very really concerned about compromising the game, so.. yeah I think there's usually another story w stuff like this

I just hope he's doing okay in a holistic greater-than-mafia sense

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then there's always ye olde f word

Spoiler:

forgetting
behave!!

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teacher.. I'm a duck..

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right quack at you

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Krazy I'm just taking a moment to remember how irl-town you are <3
And omg I didn't even realise that was an avi joke I thought my opening read on Keyser sounded like I was on a sugar high or smthn