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what's the difference between old people and kids?In post 110, BrightEyedFish wrote:Can someone compile a list that separates the old people from the kids.
I need to know what slang to use.- Ramcius
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well, we always can mislynch someone and try guess Cake's scumbuddy after he fleesIn post 112, Spiffeh wrote:This game will be boring if Cake is scum we have to pretend it’s not him for a little- Ramcius
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is there any particular reason for you to post only votes?
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ending game so soon is boringIn post 132, xyzzy wrote:
this is a dumb argument. why would it be more fun to have a series of bad, useless wagons?In post 129, Spiffeh wrote:SirCakez is a perfectly valid wagon I’m just saying it’ll be boring if he’s scum
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Me?In post 144, Gorkington wrote:i dont get why you keep signing up for this game specifically with the intent of trying to lynch or shoot me regardless of anything i say.
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First, i didn't joined this game for you, sorry to burst that bubble. I did, cause i like this setupIn post 146, Gorkington wrote:no, santa paws
Second, i'm not trying lynch you, it just my way to ease into games - RVS vote someone i played in past.
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Then we can call it evenIn post 151, Gorkington wrote:
meh, was probably a lame reaction on my part.In post 148, Ramcius wrote:Second, i'm not trying lynch you, it just my way to ease into games - RVS vote someone i played in past.
im still kind of frustrated that you shot me last game (':
p-edit: shoshin are you still standing behind your cake townread?- Ramcius
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It's funny how you try shut down all this Cakez inquisition, then you drop that you aren't 100% on town Cakez, wouldn't you want to get clear read on him and be done with his slot?In post 184, Shoshin wrote:Meh, I don't like Gork's quasi-delusional level of confidence in pushing SirCakez. SirCakez hasn't done anything scummy, and I'm pretty sure the only reason anyone suspects him is because he's posted a lot more than other "casual" players.
I think Gork is completely wrong that there's any similarity in tone between the scum SirCakez game and this game. SirCakez definitely did more in this game to push/build an early wagon (on Fire) than he did in that scum game, for example. There's more pushiness, even when SirCakez is posting casually.
I also think Gork comparison to TAZ mafia doesn't take into account the context of that game (it's clear he just read SirCakez posts in isolation). TAZ mafia ramped up a lot quicker than this game, with a lot more serious analysis from the start coming from me, skitter, and RadiantCowbells, so in context SirCakez definitely felt like a casual player in the first few pages of the game who let other players take the lead.
I think SirCakez is towny for voting Fire, trying to build an early wagon on Fire, reading Spiffeh as town, voting Cogito (for the fairly obvious reason that Cogito voted Spiffeh), and calling out Gork's weird double standard.
I'm not 100% on SirCakez as town, but I'm already seeing conf bias starting to screw with reads. Like, Ramcius calling SirCakez "iffy" for calling out a double standard is just bad.
I'd like to see more votes on Dripping. I don't see her read on Spiffeh coming from town (while SirCakez has a good reason to townread Spiff, I don't see why anyone else would be townreading Spiffeh yet). I also think scum are more likely to be among the less active players in a game like this, since they'd be trying to avoid attracting the suspicion of even a single townie.- Ramcius
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hm, guess i'll have to bribe you in round 2In post 200, Errantparabola wrote:currently:
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gork, xyzzy, shoshin, firebringer, brighteyedfish, spiffeh
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how you see this as my towntell, if we never played together?In post 221, Shoshin wrote:
I think this is a town-tell for Ram.In post 190, Ramcius wrote:It's funny how you try shut down all this Cakez inquisition, then you drop that you aren't 100% on town Cakez, wouldn't you want to get clear read on him and be done with his slot?- Ramcius
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well, we need plan for round 2 first, in case we wrong on CakezIn post 294, Untrod Tripod wrote:
HiIn post 275, Spiffeh wrote:Actually I have a super secret scum read on someone but I don't think a Lynch on this person is realistic at this time (or maybe ever!) so that's fun I guess
So why aren't we just lynching cake?- Ramcius
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oh, i understand, but if you came to this game with intention to win, you doing it wrongIn post 362, xyzzy wrote:
...you understand only the people who actually hit the remaining scum will win in that scenario, right? my goal isn't just for mafia to not win the game, it's for me to win it.In post 292, Ramcius wrote:i have plan for round 2 - we all roll 1d14 and accuse whoever we get, so someone very likely will hit scum
Whoever stays, won't be easy to guess, so i'll gladly trade my let's say 20% shot at win (i'm being generous ofc) for making scum squirm in round 1, if people voice agreement to this gambit- Ramcius
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It's not playing against your wincon, if you not intend to do it yourselfIn post 377, Errantparabola wrote:
Ramcius's gambit.In post 366, Gorkington wrote:?? who isnt playing to their wincon?
The fact that it was proposed makes me think Ramcius is town thoughRamcius wrote:oh, i understand, but if you came to this game with intention to win, you doing it wrong- Ramcius
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why you think anyone would put Cakez at L-1? Esp scum, who's going to stayIn post 413, BrightEyedFish wrote:If Cakez is not scum at least one is on his wagon right now, otherwise they would have already L-1'd and hammered.- Ramcius
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why Mewtaph? Why you don't want join me on BB wagon?In post 437, Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:The SirCakezwagon feels played out.
Let's go to a Mewtaphwagon. His posts feel sort of forced casual.
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So, you think Cakez is town, cause he isn't scumiest person in the game?In post 447, BrightEyedFish wrote:
His posts aren't AI to me and I find other's posts scummier. I don't think I have ever played with Cakez before so I have no past experience to base his play on.In post 446, Gorkington wrote:did i say i was townreading you?
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given that i didnt and havent ever alluded to reasoning for townreading you
can you just explain your townread on him instead of being abstract?- Ramcius
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why Mew?In post 453, SirCakez wrote:Feel like this game is barely going anywhere
Wouldn't mind a Mew pressure wagon- Ramcius
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So, you agree with your scumread on wagon? On top of that you don't vote Mew, just tell people to do itIn post 457, SirCakez wrote:Mew b/c CES suggested wagoning them
And honestly CES and Mew are both equally likely to be scum for me, I'm just SRing for lurking
Lastly, why you decided ignore BB wagon i started, but picked another lurker, which was proposed by your scumread?- Ramcius
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where is that?In post 472, BrightEyedFish wrote:
All the way down to Funky Town.In post 471, Ramcius wrote:where this game have to go?- Ramcius
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that's not Funky Town, that's Booooring townIn post 474, BrightEyedFish wrote:Funky Town is where CES lives.- Ramcius
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i don't have one, only 8 names that i have to process somehowIn post 476, BrightEyedFish wrote:
Where is your Funky Town?In post 475, Ramcius wrote:
that's not Funky Town, that's Booooring townIn post 474, BrightEyedFish wrote:Funky Town is where CES lives.- Ramcius
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then do somethingIn post 479, BrightEyedFish wrote:
I've been infected too, we need to do something--this game is stalling.In post 477, SirCakez wrote:
ok this entire conversation is pants on head stupidIn post 469, Katsuki wrote:Doesn't really need to go anywhere aside from a lynch.- Ramcius
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but where's the fun in it?In post 482, Gorkington wrote:we could have just lynched on page 5 and ended up in the same place.
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how can i suggest something, if i have no idea how you would like this game to proceedIn post 484, BrightEyedFish wrote:In post 480, Ramcius wrote:
then do somethingIn post 479, BrightEyedFish wrote:
I've been infected too, we need to do something--this game is stalling.In post 477, SirCakez wrote:
ok this entire conversation is pants on head stupidIn post 469, Katsuki wrote:Doesn't really need to go anywhere aside from a lynch.
What do you suggest?- Ramcius
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if you give me good reason for it, i will consider possibility to place my vote on himIn post 487, BrightEyedFish wrote:
I would like this game to proceed with more votes on CES. Care to join?- Ramcius
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If i wanted end day, i'd voted Cakez.In post 490, BrightEyedFish wrote:
Read CES's ISO, it will take about 45 seconds and you will need about 20 seconds to get a scum read. If not, let me know why you think he is town and we can move on.In post 488, Ramcius wrote:
if you give me good reason for it, i will consider possibility to place my vote on himIn post 487, BrightEyedFish wrote:
I would like this game to proceed with more votes on CES. Care to join?
What i wanted was an explanation how my vote on him would help to get better read on him or someone else to progress this game- Ramcius
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well, that depends on how reasonable people are here - i, for example, have no plans to accuse you in round 2In post 505, SirCakez wrote:Wow I didn't even notice we auto-lost in phase two if we are guessed the most
So I've lost no matter what b/c if I'm not lynched I don't see a way I'm not the most guessed
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indeed, where's your actual scumhunting, CES?In post 508, Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:
I think the better question is why it is completely disconnected from any real scumhunting.In post 502, SirCakez wrote:Mew where was this content earlier? Lol
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well, we get his partner then, big dealIn post 534, BBmolla wrote:okay I’ll laugh from the grave when cake flees ayy lmao- Ramcius
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due to the nature of this game i'm happy with any lynch that isn't me for obvious reasonsIn post 558, SirCakez wrote:
seems like you're okay with pretty much any lynch at this pointIn post 554, Ramcius wrote:no need, i'd be ok with his lynch, if he keeps playing like this
esp considering you're on the wagon I'm on
it's funny that you brought it up, when you straight up refused to vote BB, when i asked, yet you on his wagon, when it got so me traction. It's amazing how we see same thing in quite different light - you think us being on same wagon means i should townread you, yet i see it as a desperate scum trying get heat off from him.
So tell me, what changed your mind to join BB wagon? Few non-committal votes?- Ramcius
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i could care less, if you voted UT. But what you gonna vote next? Another shiny that someone throw in the thread?In post 580, SirCakez wrote:I can't win with you guys
If I voted UT I would get shit from Ram for leaving the vote on Molla
you say you can't win, but please explain me why people should townread you?- Ramcius
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null, town, null, null, town, null, town, null, null, null, null, obv town, null, leaning scum atm, null, null, townIn post 609, Marquis wrote:Ram and Spiff, what do u think of BBmolla, BrightEyedFish, Cogito Ergo Sum, DrippingGoofball, Errantparabola, Firebringer, Gorkington, Katsuki, xRECKONERx, Marquis, Mewtaph, Ramcius, Shoshin, SirCakez, Spiffeh, Untrod Tripod, and xyzzy? Be honest- Ramcius
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well, i don't know what you expected, when only handful of people are doing stuff in this game, while rest are either lurking or waiting for Cakez lynchIn post 611, Marquis wrote:Well that was very nice of you but also less helpful than I thought it would be- Ramcius
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well, you can always accuse Cakez, if your secret scumread escapesIn post 616, Spiffeh wrote:Like I understand the crusade against lurkers/inactive players and in most circumstances would support it but the nature of this setup makes me hesitant to abandon the player who I feel has exhibited the scummiest behavior and lose momentum there in exchange for what is mostly a crapshoot.
And I don't really talk about other reads because I feel if I'm too aggressive about it like usual and we mislynch my ~secret scum read~ will flee (although I've cooled down VERY slightly about them fyi) and then I'd be left without really any idea of what to do
So yeah all I have left to do is make sure I'm not the most accused player because that's an auto-loss!- Ramcius
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do as you please, it's your right, but stop playing victim thenIn post 619, SirCakez wrote:
I'm interested in the room of lurkees who are doing jack basically (UT, Mew, Molla, Cogito). I probably would not vote elsewhere.In post 607, Ramcius wrote:
i could care less, if you voted UT. But what you gonna vote next? Another shiny that someone throw in the thread?In post 580, SirCakez wrote:I can't win with you guys
If I voted UT I would get shit from Ram for leaving the vote on Molla
you say you can't win, but please explain me why people should townread you?
And idk bro I'm not playing for townreads I'm playing to play
I'm still somewhat baffled on what the majority (I;e not gork, ep, you or spiffeh) are scumreading me for because they've all just sort of piled on with no explanation.
I'm excited to talk about this post-game when laziness and confbias are gone. Esp with Gork who I feel like has gone into confbias mode and doesn't want to consider other possibilities. Will be interesting to see what happened there.
at this point your actions feels more like desperate scum than desperate town. You try shift focus from you to any wagon that you can without putting any actual effort- Ramcius
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Cakez, you complain about my "superiority complex", so i decide to leave you in peace, but now you come looking for me yourself?
i never expected for molla wagon to go all the way, it was a way to spark some discussion and maybe get some more from him, his joke for Reck to put you on L-1 was really awful and good start for some discussion. That said i couldn't care less who is on his wagon now
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1 accusation would lose scum game, so he must do something and become more towny or fleeIn post 681, SirCakez wrote:In post 673, Gorkington wrote:are you sure you dont want to try to case me as scum?
that could be a fun change of pace that might work better for you optically.
FYI since people are not getting this my "laying low" was mostly unrelated to the game, I was swamped at work one of those days.In post 676, Ramcius wrote:it wasn't like "why you don't play this way", but "your AtE/laying low isn't working"
i got nothing much from him, but i put some pressure on him and now he should be aware of some accusations in round 2, if he's scum. On top of that i got some reactions from other people too
I don't understand the benefit of being aware of accusations
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molla, fish, CES, DGB, marq, mew, shosh i expect to run and fb stay, EP i had as lock town after he scumread me early - last time i was pestering him all game, when he did same, so scum EP would avoid scumreading me again, Gork was main contributor to Cakez lynch, so chances he gets votes are high, don't expect stay as scum, kuriobo didn't strike me as scum and his reaction to my gambit/bait wasn't something i expect coming from scum, it could easily backfire, as for Spiffeh, let's say i believe him, when he say we should vote him. So i left with these 3 and that makes me feel bad - Ramcius
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