Open 741: Red Flag [Endgame]

[Firebringer]

pretty sure he is town here. felt like a real rc read on me.
i don't think scum!rc would scumread me like that and in general would only scumread me if that was a consensus on me if he was scum.

but i might be giving him too much credit. when i am scum i don't like scumreading him so i kind of assume he does same for me but i know that isn't 100% true.

[Firebringer]

pretty sure he is town here. felt like a real rc read on me.
i don't think scum!rc would scumread me like that and in general would only scumread me if that was a consensus on me if he was scum.

but i might be giving him too much credit. when i am scum i don't like scumreading him so i kind of assume he does same for me but i know that isn't 100% true.

ironically this might get him to scumread me harder =)

[THE MEME MEN]

not appropriate.

I was being absolutely serious he seems way different dude, and this is like the 2nd time he's said he doesn't want to channel his RC so idfk what I'm supposed to respond to that. He's certainly not his usual self and there's no tprs. If he is town then I'm legit worried! Meme Men may be memers but they are still human

-rh

[Springtrap]

I dont know what part of this game to take seriously anymore. I dont think that's a good sign.

Thoughts on the current wagons?

I will answer this again when the votecount is updated, but all I'm seeing right now is mainly filler and fluff in a game where we should probably be more worried. You know, since 4 of us are evil out of 13 (or 15, I guess, if we count the accounts with multiple people).

I'll wait until later for more critical judgement, and mostly so I can see what is purely friendship and what is attempted buddying.

ur previous post was u saying u liked to have banter to re-integrate to the game.
next post ur complaining about the filler in order to not provide any judgements.

so why don't u banter with me and we can give some judgements shall we?

Yes, bantering so I could have a reentry point after missing a day's worth of content and nearly 5 pages while not really being impactful to the game, which is slow to change.

Posting words for the sake of words is more likely to just confuse me in what I have to take seriously. Like, maybe it really is the name or it's the RH signing person, but meme men seems silly even if I try to read it in a seriousus tone.

[RadiantCowbells]

you know if you said that to literally anyone else on that site you would be instantly banned meme men

[Firebringer]

Yes, bantering so I could have a reentry point after missing a day's worth of content and nearly 5 pages while not really being impactful to the game, which is slow to change.

Posting words for the sake of words is more likely to just confuse me in what I have to take seriously. Like, maybe it really is the name or it's the RH signing person, but meme men seems silly even if I try to read it in a seriousus tone.

i see excuses here and i am not going to accept this frame ur trying to pass.
lets shift the focus to some analysis.

i see none in ur iso and ur saying u been disconnected. do u think thats wrong or unfair?

[THE MEME MEN]

What? Why? It's an appropriate response to someone who is saying they're depressed or acting like they're depressed

Why do you always go for "if it was anyone else you'd be banned", if you want me banned then ban me, otherwise don't say such ridiculous statements

-rh

[THE MEME MEN]

We all should treat this game with the S E R I O U S N E S S it deserves

-rh

[THE MEME MEN]

Now, who wants to talk about wagonomics?

-rh

[Firebringer]

Now, who wants to talk about wagonomics?

-rh

don't make me hurt u

[Blackjacks]

RC why are we scum

/ofrhz

[pinturicchio]

you know if you said that to literally anyone else on that site you would be instantly banned meme men

I agree with this. Meme men, back off

[pinturicchio]

Even if I still believed that the message was prepared beforehand, I still would be inclined to believe that ruru is town here

This is strange. First, if I still believed that the message was prepared beforehand, then I would definitely scumread Blackjacks under lynch all liars. Maybe he meant "Even if Blackjacks had instead told me the message was prepared beforehand, I would be inclined to believe ruru is town here"?

Anyway, whether Blackjacks wrote their post during pregame or during day one ought to be beyond the point. What matters is whether it was written before or after Blackjacks received their role. Pinturicchio's post makes me think that he forgot what his case was actually about, thought that he was now working with "writing posts during pregame = scummy", and then decided to drop the case.

I am somewhat wary of pinturicchio because of this.

Yes, what I meant is what you said: even if she told me that the message was prepared beforehand (and here comes the good part), her response gave me townvibes. Not the content of her replies, but the tone. So if she telled me "I did write that post beforehand" but with the same tone she replied to me, I would have changed my opinion about the whole thing. So: I scumread her because of something specific ---> she replies with a tone that ressembles her town range ---> I stop caring about the initial specific thing 'cause I have something better. Is this now clear?

Now, about your other reads: I agree about Gamma. Him Acknowledging his change of playstyle pings me hard. He's quite helpful as town: in my very first game, he replaced in a slot that was destined to be mislynched, since Red Flavor played as anti town as it can gets, but he made a good job when he came in and we got a perfect town win. His playstyle there was pretty similar to other towngames I've seen, so why changing it? Feels "antinatural", as he was trying to get more scumrange and not townrange.
I disagree about Keiser, tho. Even if you consider he's not contributing, I think he's made some effort to give this game some pace. With all the shitposting that has been going on, he could just enjoy how the game stagnates until the deadline comes closer.

[Gamma Emerald]

aster you're really messing the vibe firebringer and i got going

aster the disaster.

I very much dislike the case on me, but all I’ve been able to pick out for why comes back to OMGUS.

[Gamma Emerald]

blackjack/Firebringer are scum together
volxen is town
aster is town
nibbul is town
ceejay +equity town

why do u think i am scum?

you correctly called blackjack scum in your sole serious scumread of the game then went back to a cutesy memewagon on obvtown

also I'm pretty sure you never make that post about sheeping me as town

If I'm wrong you're welcome to prove me wrong,

I know some of you don't know RC that well

but this is scum RC

the only other explanation is that he started using drugs

RC, IF YOU HAVE TAKEN UP DRUGS, SEEK AN INTERVENTION NOW

-rh

WHAT.

[Firebringer]

is this red text going to be a thing all game?

[Gamma Emerald]

is this red text going to be a thing all game?

It’s called Red Flag. ♪

[Nibbui]

RC u can sheep me on disaster aster, you can assume if u think i am scum that i am bussing.

I mean, was your vote on Aster only for the pun or not?

If not, what are your reasons?

I assumed you were joking but here you tell RC to consider Aster and I don't know if that is serious or not as well

[Nibbui]

"I aster, said that it's from town. Meme men said it may not.
Meme men cautioned about voting rashly but I think he's scum for saying that?"

What on earth are you even saying here anymore in this tangled web?

-LH

Like, she can be wrong about scum reading you but the post you are talking about makes perfect logical sense, and she even considers the possibility you can be town.

However here you come again and post utterly incomprehensible logic. I don't think it was difficult to understand what she meant, I feel wrote this out of bad faith be you scum or town and that's bad if you're green.

Truth to be told, you're doing various actions out of bad faith in my opinion and if you are town I would like you to stop since each mislynch here is a pretty heavy penalty.

If town focuses on expressing themselves in good faith and getting their mindset and thought process across, it is a lot easier to play since there's a good chance at least on of the four in the scum team might mess up somewhere a bit.

Same deal can be said about most of RH's actions

[Nibbui]

395 is pretty logically solid. It's not like everyone is playing in a logical mindset though, but yeah, there's a point there.

For a very logical-oriented player like Aster, someone playing as contradictory as MEMEMEN is going to get pushed by her independent of hers alignment. Either because as town she might scum read him, or because as scum she'll see him as someone she can push and make solid cases that are going to be generally logically correct and hard to critique.

It would be good if MEMEMEN's behavior could only come from scum but unhappily it's not impossible for it to come from town.

Like, as long as MEMEMEN keep up this highly contradictory behavior I don't think we'll get a firm read on Aster since she'll not need to go off by speculations (what would be way more helpful to read her), but will always have the perfect inquestionably case where we always look at MEMEMAN and wonder "is he just scum or is he kinda thoughtless?".

I have read 393 (Aster's reads), and although it's a pretty/good post and I appreciate you did answer my request, I dunno, I don't feel like you did write anything outside of my projection of what you could replicate as scum, unhappily. The effort you're putting in these posts it's admirable though. Thanks anyway.

[Nibbui]

I dont know what part of this game to take seriously anymore. I dont think that's a good sign.

I dont know what part of this game to take seriously anymore. I dont think that's a good sign.

Thoughts on the current wagons?

I will answer this again when the votecount is updated, but all I'm seeing right now is mainly filler and fluff in a game where we should probably be more worried. You know, since 4 of us are evil out of 13 (or 15, I guess, if we count the accounts with multiple people).

I'll wait until later for more critical judgement, and mostly so I can see what is purely friendship and what is attempted buddying.

Can you please start giving us some reads already?

You don't need to wait anymore at all, you've already waited it's been 18 pages

Also, what interests us more would be original arguments and reads by the way, and that's a valid request to Volxen as well because that post of his reads doesn't have anything outside of the consensus.

VOTE: SpringTrap

[Clemency]

alright i'm gonna try and take this game a bit more serious because i dont wanna be a detriment to anyone's enjoyment

[Nibbui]

alright i'm gonna try and take this game a bit more serious because i dont wanna be a detriment to anyone's enjoyment

Thanks and sorry if I come off too bothersome yesterday, I was kinda down although I think I half had a point.

I'll as well try to not be so serious/cherrypick to not be a detriment to yours and Fire's enjoyment I guess

Then, do you have any original thoughts in store? I'm kinda insterested if it's something someone already said as well but not half as much as I'm on something original.

[Clemency]

also meme men wtf

[THE MEME MEN]

Nibbui, why do you feel a pressure vote on SpringTrap is more valuable than a pressure vote on Volxen, given that SpringTrap has 1900% the number of posts as Volxen?

-RH