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Why Vig should kill Cop

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:50 am

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There are a lot of problems inherent in the institution of policing .... killing cops, while an extreme tactic, is a powerful way in which marginalized communities can authentically reclaim power and authority in order to resist tyranny through direct action. Some will argue that the role of police is not truly to ensure justice and safety, but, rather, to serve as the footsoldiers of capital : when push comes to shove, police side with the bourgeoisie and elites over the working poor. They enable and preserve dysfunctional power dynamics that produce crime. Few know this, but the institution of policing in the United States, land of liberty, began as an organization of slave catchers. Good ideology leads to good praxis.

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Let's look at the big picture view:

Cop has the power to instantly clear a town OR instantly condemn a mafia scum to death.


This is incredibly OP as a skill; the mere presence of cop reports already give town an immense advantage over the scum.
And in a very deep sense, this OP role is bad for gameplay: when village gets their easy clears / easy scums, the need to scumhunt is absolutely abolished.
A scum counter-claiming cop only stacks the cards higher in town's favor, because it gives them a 50/50 for finding a scum.

In contrast, the vig is not given any special clues as to who to shoot. They generally can't and don't claim their role. This contrasting nature of the vig and cop means that, given one or the other, a game with 1 or more vigs will always have more intense "scum hunting" than a game with 1 or more cops. Mafia is a game of psychology. The most zealous fans of Mafia will insist that it is "scum hunting" that really defines the game, and the art of "scum hunting" is what demands talent and rewards skilled players. So for people who want to play genuinely interesting and challenging games of mafia, the need to remove cop is obvious.

I know, I know, the practice of "cop worship" is widespread in the mafia community. If my political & technical appeals to you about "killing cops" don't sway your opinion, let me finally resort to artistic appeals. Please listen to these elegies from marginalized communities with an open mind. Together, we can move past boot-licking and live in a better world by killing cops.



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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:56 am

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uh
Invisibility is actually AWESOME!
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:56 am

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Guys, i think crusty might be a member of the mafia :cop:
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 12:06 pm

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In post 2, Child wrote:Guys, i think crusty might be a member of the mafia :cop:
Are you hard claiming cop?
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 12:09 pm

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In post 3, crusty wrote:
In post 2, Child wrote:Guys, i think crusty might be a member of the mafia :cop:
Are you hard claiming cop?
Yup, and you just got a red-check. you are going to rot in jail, buddy :cop:
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 3:53 pm

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MS shitposting quality has been so low lately. This is refreshing.
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:57 pm

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In post 5, Agent Sparkles wrote:MS shitposting quality has been so low lately. This is refreshing.
I’m eagerly anticipating the thread, about the pros and cons of playing to one’s wincon.
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Sun Dec 02, 2018 1:43 am

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Is this supposed to be in Speakeasy?
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Sun Dec 02, 2018 2:09 am

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petition to port mafia discussion into the speakeasy
Invisibility is actually AWESOME!
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Sun Dec 02, 2018 6:45 am

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In post 8, Invisibility wrote:petition to port mafia discussion into the speakeasy
Petition to create a shitposting subforum - Not a joke
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Sun Dec 02, 2018 6:48 am

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In post 9, Nancy Drew 39 wrote: Petition to create a shitposting subforum - Not a joke
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Sun Dec 02, 2018 7:42 am

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isnt that already kind of the speakeasy?
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:18 pm

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It's already exactly the speakeasy
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:23 pm

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Even though the name doesn't make much sense
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 3:43 am

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In post 9, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 8, Invisibility wrote:petition to port mafia discussion into the speakeasy
Petition to create a shitposting subforum - Not a joke
It already exists

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Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:54 am

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In post 14, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 9, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 8, Invisibility wrote:petition to port mafia discussion into the speakeasy
Petition to create a shitposting subforum - Not a joke
It already exists

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That’s an ISO of me. I thought you weren’t allowed to discuss
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You really shouldn’t have posted this. :facepalm:
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:07 am

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It's of all your posts though.
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:17 am

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In post 16, Creature wrote:It's of all your posts though.
That isn’t the point though. It would have been fine, if he referenced my posts from a
past
game. He just shouldn’t quote anything from an ongoing game. Are you suggesting I shitpost as a regular part of my playstyle?
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:10 am

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I think he was suggesting you just shitpost in general.
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:33 am

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Who knew a joke about shitposting would spawn actual shitposting
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:15 pm

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In post 18, Creature wrote:I think he was suggesting you just shitpost in general.
In post 19, Not_Mafia wrote:Who knew a joke about shitposting would spawn actual shitposting

Spoiler:


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