Open 738: Purgatory | LA FIN

[Keyser Söze]

I wanted to actually re-read TW next...

I know we keep saying 'he's out his scum-range', but we/I need to make sure of that today (if I get the martyr kill, I want to rid all my paranoia today).

[the worst]

Yeah, I didn't like Volxen's vote there on TW.
Volxen should be voting in:

"At the moment I am convinced that {Keyser, Eragon} are town"

This is no time to act in pride and prove a point to a player you're not even hard town reading... it's reckless...


Scum only need one more player in heaven, correct?

My concern is that if TW is town, he is wrong on one of Labrat or Ausuka, but I don't know if he will ever see that. His plan is to lynch me in the next hell phase, and then after I flip green he will want to lynch Eragon in the next one. That is his "plan" that he has laid out repeatedly.

Keyser you are my strongest townread, but I'm also concerned that TW might cost us the game because I believe he has locktowned scum. I don't want the martyrs to have to choose between lynching Labrat or Ausuka on judgement day.

If you and TW are both town, I would prefer for you to stick around in the game. And Eragon is hard townreading TW, so I'm taking that into account, and I do believe this could just be town!TW hard tunneling me as he has done this before as town.

Where was this post when I kept asking you to show me where I was wrong? Why is scum in {Ausuka, Labby} and why are you so heavily town on Eragon? M

[volxen]

I wanted to actually re-read TW next...

I know we keep saying 'he's out his scum-range', but we/I need to make sure of that today (if I get the martyr kill, I want to rid all my paranoia today).

Do you want to go to Heaven today, or do you want to stick around? I think our chances of winning are better if you stick around. I would also be willing to send Eragon to Heaven, but I don't want town!TW to cost us the game because he has locktowned both Ausuka and Labrat.

[Keyser Söze]

Right now: me or TW to heaven today. scum-TW has won the game either way. Town-TW should feel the same about me right now too (?)

[the worst]

I wanted to actually re-read TW next...

I know we keep saying 'he's out his scum-range', but we/I need to make sure of that today (if I get the martyr kill, I want to rid all my paranoia today).

Do you want to go to Heaven today, or do you want to stick around? I think our chances of winning are better if you stick around. I would also be willing to send Eragon to Heaven, but I don't want town!TW to cost us the game because he has locktowned both Ausuka and Labrat.

I don't mind, we should send keyser to heaven

Right now: me or TW to heaven today. scum-TW has won the game either way. Town-TW should feel the same about me right now too (?)

I've already worked out my ptsd signature if you're scum.

[the worst]

once again volxen you're fearmongering really unconvincingly. I don't think you believe what you're saying. It sounds like you're a caught wolf who's realised he's lost so doesn't wanna sink time into the game but is honourable enough not to throw in the towel.

If you're town please get to work on convincing me of either
1) town!Eragon, or
2) either of your scumreads on Ausuka and Labby

[the worst]

just a reminder I have zero interest in talking about your alignment. we're gonna sort other people

[volxen]

once again volxen you're fearmongering really unconvincingly. I don't think you believe what you're saying. It sounds like you're a caught wolf who's realised he's lost so doesn't wanna sink time into the game but is honourable enough not to throw in the towel.

If you're town please get to work on convincing me of either
1) town!Eragon, or
2) either of your scumreads on Ausuka and Labby

Can you explain why it has to be me or Eragon? That's what I'm most concerned about. Me flipping green wouldn't even help you to get on the right track, because then you will just hone in on Eragon. If one of {Volxen, Eragon} gets mislynched that's one thing, but if both of us get mislynched it's going to make it significantly more difficult to win this game.

This is why I want to Keep Keyser in the game, because I trust him more than you to correctly solve this game.

[the worst]

Volxy I'm trying to get you to spew your alignment so no, I'm not at liberty to intricately case you so that you know what I'm looking for. I am trying to solve this game with you and you keep shooing me away with soft insults to my abilities. What's the deal?

[Keyser Söze]

Sorry not even completed half of my heaven phase to do list.

[ManateeDude]

LabRat01 has retained their slot

[ManateeDude]

Did you know?

The heaviest lobster was recorded at an amazing 44 pounds!

Votecount 4.02

the worst (2) - Eragon, volxen
Keyser Söze (2) - Keyser Söze, the worst
Not Voting - LabRat01, Ausuka

Time till end of heaven phase 2: (expired on 2018-12-04 21:30:00)

[the worst]

UNVOTE:

FoR tHe DrAmA

[Keyser Söze]

I don’t want you L-1 with your vote free.

Please could you self vote too.

[the worst]

yeah sure VOTE: tw

[Keyser Söze]

I changed my mind.

I want to go to heaven today.

[the worst]

yeah i want you in heaven today as well

if you're scum i literally want to lose this game already so i can cry in the corner. but i don't think you're scum.
if you're town i want to move into hell 3 so volxen so i can finish this war with volxen >:C

[Keyser Söze]

I would like to hear LabRats thoughts on me and you in the next 12 hours hopefully too.


@TW - describe your interactions with Relly and Dr J on D1...

[LabRat01]

VOTE: TW
I'd be reaIIy gIad if we c0uId send him t0 heaven :/ I think I'm starting t0 accept the p0ssibiIity 0f me basing my reads 0n the wr0ng p0sts, but it's definiteIy n0t t0 the p0int where I'd feeI 0k with v0ting Keyser t0 heaven
Iike, just... n0

I was kinda h0ping t0 get a 24h deadIine extenti0n, but I guess I'm n0t reaIIy "new t0 the game", s0 it's n0t p0ssibIe

anyways, is any0ne reaIIy against sending TW t0 heaven?

[LabRat01]

and yeah, I'm back. Tbh I didn’t reaIIy regain my wim, I stiII feeI kinda apathetic t0wards everything and my Iast test is t0m0rr0w, but I keep returning with my th0ughts t0 the game in my free time, s0 it d0esn’t reaIIy make sense t0 n0t be in it when I’m d0ing it anyways :/

[LabRat01]

I tried making a muIti IS0 0f DrJ&Irre&V0Ix/Era/Aus&Manatee and I’ve been reading it f0r a whiIe n0w
StiII 0n page 1 0ut 0f 4, but tbh d0n’t expect much m0re fr0m me bef0re the exams end and I get s0me rest
I’II just paste s0me p0sts I wanted t0 menti0n

[LabRat01]

And tbh if TW read DrJ’s IS0 and didn’t find anything w0rth menti0ning, then he sucks at reading interacti0ns
Iike, I’m 0nIy at the beginning, yet there;s quite a bit 0f it

[LabRat01]

What makes you think that scum would post that in thread though? Why wouldn't they PM Manatee or post it in their PT? What do they have to gain by posting that in the thread? FMPOV, scum wouldn't want to only because then they run the risk of accidentally outing themselves, and that would put town one step closer to winning, (only requiring one more mafia to be sent to hell to win).

I would've done the same thing as Carman in that situation; I'd have jokingly said "No, its not there, it says Mafia however". If you don't believe me on that, the newbie game with LCPL and myself, I jokingly claimed SK at the very start of the game. I don't really see RVS jokes as AI, but rather as NAI. It's RVS memes. Sure, Carman saying that is plausible suspicion, however, you aren't really taking into account the RVS aspect of it.

Additionally, if that post isn't a joke, then IMO, that makes it incredibly scummy, because I'm seeing it as you're pretty sure that Carmen is actually scum, and that was a slip. What benefit does Carmen (or the scum team) get if they are actually scum, and they do obv!scum early D1? Wouldn't it be better for Carmen to

not

do that then?

K0rina’s p0st near the start 0f the game ^

He pushed me rather hard f0r

“pushing Carmen when they’re n0t scummy”

and saying that

“I sIipped because my push was TMI and I kn0w that Carmen is scum with me”

It feeIs kinda 0TT as f0r defending a scummate fr0m a RvS push

And the sudden change fr0m being c0nfident that

"Carmen isscum with me"

t0

"Carmen isn;t scummy becuase K0r w0uId have d0ne the same thing"

feeIs kinda weird as f0r SvS

[Erag0n repIaced Carmen if I remember it right)

[LabRat01]

ugh, I'm g0nna skip the interacti0ns with myseIf
there's quite a bit 0f it, but I d0n't want t0 edit it if I d0n't need t0
Ieaving it f0r Iater

[LabRat01]

See, but why would mafia want to make awkward jokes in the first place? Correct me if I'm wrong, but, you are now saying that you are certain Carmen is scum, is that correct?

And again, the persistence in teIIing me that I was “certain” that Carmen was scum, w0uId be rather weird if he REAIIY was scum and if the read was a “c0rrect 0ne” :/
idk, it just feeIs 0ff