Mini 2039: uPicketyPicketyPick Mafia Endgame

[Varsoon]

I felt as though getting town to be powered up would be good but there's no gaurantee that Kokichi is town AND/OR that Kokichi doesn't just empower scum.
I don't like it.

[ChibiBear]

The way I see it, I'm not gonna just sit back and not even try to win the minigame. It's too early in the game for me to have anyone I trust strongly enough to just give them that power. Maaaaaybe I'd allow it for Nibbui or perhaps Mutant, my 2 relatively stronger townleans, but even then I'm reluctant.

And besides, if all Kokichi winning is going to achieve is unlocking

some else's

2nd role, why in the world would we not just have

that

person win the minigame in the first place? Seems like we're chucking in an extra step there for no reason.

[Varsoon]

I also feel like his whole 'power a second person up' thing is very questionable.
I don't buy it all at face value.
I think I'd be fine with it if Kokichi won the minigame on their own
but I won't just roll over let them have it.
Think about it;
You know your own alignment.
You know if winning the minigame on your own would empower town (yourself)
Why would you entrust someone else who's align/role you don't know?

[ChibiBear]

I also feel like his whole 'power a second person up' thing is very questionable.
I don't buy it all at face value.
I think I'd be fine with it if Kokichi won the minigame on their own
but I won't just roll over let them have it.
Think about it;
You know your own alignment.
You know if winning the minigame on your own would empower town (yourself)
Why would you entrust someone else who's align/role you don't know?

That's what I'm saying bro!
This whole 'letting Kokichi win' makes no sense.

I'm catching up in reverse btw so I can get in on the conversation before all you guys go to sleep. Also I don't want to look at page 6.

[Elbirn]

If I may play Devils advocate

Do you think scum-kokichi empowers a scumbuddy? I'm not sure if that's the play or not, it's a risk especially considering the scum team wont know their tertiary roles and therefore if it's worth it

Do you think town-kokichi picks the wrong person? Picked at random thered be better than average chance of selecting town, which I think you alluded to earlier

Pedit: I get what you're saying but the possibility of two powered up towns sounds enticing + I mostly wanna pick your brain

[ChibiBear]

OH WAIT I think I've been misunderstanding Kokichi's claim.

Does he mean that he unlocks someone else's 2nd role AS WELL AS his own?

This whole time I thought he meant that winning the minigame means he gets to unlock someone else and that's all, which is why I was so confused.

[Varsoon]

Secret third option hot take:
Kokichi is scum, empowers town with his role, it enables something about his quest or his primary role.

Basically too many variables.
I'll stick to what I know I know.

[Gamma Emerald]

What would you not know you know?

[Varsoon]

I forget stuff all the time.
There's things you know you know
There's things you don't know you know.
There's things you know you don't know
but then there's things you don't know that you don't know.

[ChibiBear]

Varsoon posted fluff outside of a spoiler tag, I'm calling the police

[Gamma Emerald]

Varsoon posted fluff outside of a spoiler tag, I'm calling the police

[Varsoon]

I dunno, I was serious for at least half of that.

[Nibbui]

Do you think town-kokichi picks the wrong person? Picked at random thered be better than average chance of selecting town, which I think you alluded to earlier

I don't like this part tbh

If we say to kokichi to select random, if he is scum he'll say that it was random but it probably would be his scum buddy.

There's advantage to leaving Kokichi to decide secretly himself who he should unlock though (and I don't see that crossing people mind), if we state in public which towny person will get unlocked, the chance that Mafia just kill them off for being widely town read + a unlocked TPR is kinda high, and in that way we simply end up kinda wasting one minigame.

However, I dunno about letting Kokichi win, don't really trust him that much.

Also, if we aren't leaving Kokichi to decide on his own, maybe using /heal/ to vote for who he should unlock isn't a bad idea?

[Kokichi Oma]

Which is why im.asking for a vote on who is towniest.

[Kokichi Oma]

Btw I forgot to mention. If I win a 2nd time I can unlock TWO more peoples roles.

[Kokichi Oma]

So one win I unlock mine and someone elses. 2nd win I unlock 2 other peoples roles.

[ChibiBear]

Page 6 should be quarantined.

It does

bear

repeating.

Hah.

Ok so I'm feeling much better about Varsoon after that 2nd wall and his recent posts.

Honestly, that first wall had so much cherrypicking and other sorta pointless feeling stuff that despite the massive amount of effort, it didn't feel all that pro-town, and my gut feeling on it was not good. His personality seems to have changed a lot between that 1st and 2nd wall though, what's going on here?

That being said, my early game gut reads tend to be more accurate than my logic reads so I'm not quite ready to write him off as town just yet. We'll see.

I have half a mind to sheep his vote on RC though. I've only played 1 game with RC but he's a pretty opinionated and confident dude from what I've seen, it seems strange to me that he's actively refusing to post anything useful when there's plenty to talk about already.

Actually ya know, why not?

VOTE: RC

RC if you're town please start contributing.

[Firebringer]

Chibi u haven’t contributed anything here so not sure why ur asking RC to

[Firebringer]

90% of ur iso is complaining about fluff and other non read related content

[RadiantCowbells]

I am in a neighbourhood with someone who has expressly objected to my powerlynching Varsoon right now even though my mind is already entirely made up that he's dying D1.

As a result I am just treading water waiting for 'enough' to happen that I am no longer obliged to hold back.

[Firebringer]

Chibi u haven’t contributed anything here so not sure why ur asking RC to

Scratch this
You haven’t contributed anything I find useful or meaningful

[Firebringer]

I am in a neighbourhood with someone who has expressly objected to my powerlynching Varsoon right now even though my mind is already entirely made up that he's dying D1.

As a result I am just treading water waiting for 'enough' to happen that I am no longer obliged to hold back.

I never said that

[RadiantCowbells]

I never said that you said that. I am in multiple neighbourhoods.

[Firebringer]

U whore

[Varsoon]

So?
Doesn't make the vote on RC any less meaningful, imo.

P-EDIT: The fact you start in a neighborhood makes me think you're likelier scum than town.
You can 'make up your mind' or whatever garbage you want, but the fact of the matter is that I'm not dying D1 unless you've got a day shot.
I'm going to be a thorn in your side until you waste your NK on me.