Starcraft Mafia -- Game Over!

[Keyser Söze]

@skitter - you having a gut town read wasn’t my problem.


I think it was the over-explaination of the gut read (that I thought had undertones of sheeping Shoshin’s reason)

I.e over-justification

[skitter30]

idk when i'm trying to explain a gut read i just say everything i'm thinking relevant to the topic at hand that might be prompting the gut vibes; it helps me articulate what i'm thinking

[AlmostNancy]

@skitter - you having a gut town read wasn’t my problem.


I think it was the over-explaination of the gut read (that I thought had undertones of sheeping Shoshin’s reason)

I.e over-justification

Trust me, skitter can talk much sometimes. The question is whether she's providing genuine content or just babbling. I say she's Town here.

[AlmostNancy]

Also, signing off for today. Nancy can feel free to vote anyone she likes, and I will trust you all won't be trying to be mean to her while I'm asleep (you can be mean to me when I wake up. You know I don't mind)

[AlmostNancy]

@AlmostNancy: I'm not. I did what I said I was going to do in post 67, and had a look at a few of his recent games. If you mean why I was looking for the wagonjumping in particular, it was because Irrelephant himself used that as an explanation for his votes here, and because Shoshin (who has presumably played quite a bit with him) said it seemed like town Irrelephant behaviour.

Incidentally, I saw in post #1 a mention of "informed status" not being revealed on flip. I've never played in a game with informed players, so I was wondering if the information they have should be shared with the rest of the town. Thoughts?

I suppose it would depend on what that information consists of I guess, because you also wouldn’t want to help scum. So, as long as sharing that information is good for town, I’d say yes. Otherwise, maybe not such a good idea.

~Nancy

[Varsoon]

This game started already, huh?

[Mitillos]

@Nancy: The thing is scum already has a lot of information, since scum know who they are. Information is the one thing town is lacking. My real worry is something that skitter touched on: we'd lose information from those who are nightkilled, and I like information. And now I've said "information" so many times it's weird.

Anyway, I think the information I have is good for the town to have in advance, and unlikely to be something that scum don't already know (since they have daytalk per post 0), so I will go ahead and share it:
There are no roles with the ninja modifier.

I'm liking skitter quite a bit, so far. Since "gut" is useless on its own as an explanatory tool, attempting to communicate her reads better is what good town does.

@Shoshin: I would still like an explanation for your Performer vote, please.

[Shoshin]

Hello everyone.

VOTE: Irrelephant for not confirming yet.

The guy posted itt as post #1 out of all us though....
VOTE: Mitllos

also who are you mitil? An alt?

Hey Irrelephant, want to policy lynch Varsoon?

but! He has probably more large theme experience than any of us!
And he hasnt even posted yet

This feels like scum. Especially compared with everyone else.

[Mitillos]

@Shoshin (my finger keeps trying to move to the 'e' key as I type your username): There are two problems with that: 1) As I said in earlier posts that just looks like regular RVS to me. Can you elaborate on why it's scummy? 2) How exactly can you compare Performer with everyone else for scumminess, when by the time of the most recent VC, three players hadn't even posted yet, and another three had 1-2 posts? If you mean he was more scummy than the other people who aren't lurking, that's fine, but it kind of misses a very large and sickly-looking elephant in the room.

[the worst]

the rhetoric game is strong fam

are you really hard scumreading Rel based off a minor rvs meta tell when there's such a small sample size? what do you think of the rest of his content?

I think the derp here is a little towny (sorry to be disrespectful)

[Nauci]

I'm kinda being lazy this game (aka I just woke up from a loooong jetlag nap)

I know several people here are muuuuch better/different as town versus scum. Irrelephant is very good as scum. Who else is, since I don't quite recognize everyone?

Also, is there a VOTE: Not_Mafia in the house?

My trip was half great fun, half pollution induced bronchitis (I coughed up a rose shaped piece of mucus the size of a small strawberry AMA), half weight gain from ultra delicious Chinese food being shoved down my gullet by my whole family.

[Nauci]

Keyser you never picked an avatar for me

[the worst]

not gonna lie, the weight gain sounds surprisingly pleasant. :p I hope the bronchitis and side effects have passed :// ain't nobody got time for that

[Shoshin]

@Mitillos

I'm comparing Performer with players who have posted readable posts. Performer's post feels scummy because I don't get the sense that he's trying to sort alignments, his justification for voting you feels overly mechanical and careless, and his response to me feels really awkward in a way that feels scummy.

I disagree that it's "regular RVS" since we were already deep into sorting alignments (at least from my perspective, there was a lot of content to start analyzing). But even if you read it as RVS, that doesn't mean you can't use it to sort his alignment. So I'm not sure what that has to do with anything? Weren't you reading pretty deep into an RVS post yourself?

[Shoshin]

Hey Nauci, join me on Performer!

[the worst]

Join us** on Performer :{ I'm proud of being a founder of that wagon Shoshin

[the worst]

@Nauci I know like 80% of this list I think if you ironically want comments on people's strength of scumgame

[Shoshin]

Forgot you were on Performer, excellent!

[Shoshin]

Do you agree with my reasoning? Why are you on him?

[the worst]

wrt Performer I flipped a coin between that and returning to the AlmostNancy lolwagon, his opening post was in character enough but like I guess it's an rvs post well out of rvs and felt slightly... out of the mood of the thread... I guess?

Basically I picked it because I don't wanna vote you atm

I do agree with your reasoning (with the minor caveat that Performer always smells like a wolf to me sod1)

[the worst]

but the crux of it is indeed that with a lot of people checking in he's my lowest read

[skitter30]

so I will go ahead and share it:
There are no roles with the ninja modifier.

ye i think this was a safe thing to share at this time

think you're town fairly strongly for this stage of the game tbh

==

My trip was half great fun, half pollution induced bronchitis (I coughed up a rose shaped piece of mucus the size of a small strawberry AMA), half weight gain from ultra delicious Chinese food being shoved down my gullet by my whole family.

i hope on balance your trip was nice tho!

pollution induced bronchitis does not sound fun

i actually live near some of the california wildfires from a couple of weeks back. it was awful trying to breathe outside here for a few days - i felt the ash stuck in my throat

and then i went to sf for a day and it was even worse there, i couldn't stay outside for longer than like five minutes without coughing

==

i don't really have much of an opinion on performer either way

[Nauci]

Yeah I live in the immediate bay area so I'd been in 200+ aqi (348 the day I left!) before heading off into Chinese pollution lol

Idk how people live in Mumbai where it has gotten up to 1000. 250 feels like simultaneously smoking 3 cigarettes.

I will check on this performer hunch

[the worst]

Jesus my city is like, 6..the worst I've experienced is Bangkok tbh and I don't think they get to 200 either.....

[Keyser Söze]

Keyser you never picked an avatar for me

I wasn’t feeling eeeeeevil enough

Don’t worry, I haven’t forgotten though