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Post Post #77 (isolation #0) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:58 am

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Hey guys, this is the Nancy head. This game seems like fun. I’m really glad, I finally get to play with Shoshin again.
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Post Post #83 (isolation #1) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:02 am

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In post 80, the worst wrote:
In post 77, AlmostNancy wrote:Hey guys, this is the Nancy head. This game seems like fun. I’m really glad, I finally get to play with Shoshin again.
NANCY!! <3
you're not glad you get to play with me again? :(
Oh of course I do. I just haven’t played with Shoshin since Labrynth.

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This reminds me a bit of CoH, except with A50 and me hydraing and you in a different slot. Oh and we have a decent mod in this game.
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Post Post #86 (isolation #2) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:05 am

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In post 8, the worst wrote:Krazy had it comin'

VOTE: Almost Nancy
In post 16, the worst wrote:VOTE: Mitillos
we lynch AlmostNancy tomorrow
:lol:

This reminds me of Labrynth tw. Do you agree, Shoshin?
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Post Post #88 (isolation #3) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:13 am

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In post 87, Shoshin wrote:What feels similar to Labyrinth, Nancy?
He had a very similar post in there.
In post 84, the worst wrote:
In post 48, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Hi guys, I’m looking forward to this game.
Nancy out of respect for your play, I am going to suggest this is a bald-faced LIE.
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what do you make of joral and their wagon?



In post 6, ArcAngel9 wrote:VOTE: Reality Check

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I HAVE INFORMATION WHICH I CANT REVEAL.. ITS GOING TO HURT THE GAME.
@every1 thoughts on just asking Arc to claim the negative utility?
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Post Post #94 (isolation #4) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:22 am

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In post 90, Mitillos wrote:@the worst: I'm sure you're perfectly fluffy. Aggressiveness is a separate property altogether. We'll probably talk at length later. As for Irellephant, I've seen a ton of games he joined late or didn't talk for a very long time (ignoring these), and a bunch of newbie ones where he is the SC (ignoring these too). Other than that, looking at his recently finished games, I've seen three games where he doesn't wagonjump a lot as a townie, and one where he does as mafia. Unless someone else who has played with him a lot wants to provide additional data, I'm going with this and with the OMGUS on me, so now my vote is serious. Could you explain your Performer vote? I thought his post was pretty standard RVS.

@Nauci: If it ends early, that's how you know it worked. :Þ

@AlmostNancy: Any reads yet? Also, any response to skitter's request about signing your posts?
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Post Post #101 (isolation #5) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:35 am

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In post 33, skitter30 wrote:also i want almostnancy to sign their posts cuz i can read a50 super well and i've never played with nancy so i want to try to sort them based on a50's posting
Sorry, I tend to forget. All the posts so far have been mine, so if A50 wants to make it to Almost51 . . . :P
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Post Post #102 (isolation #6) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:40 am

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In post 15, Shoshin wrote:Seems pretty town for Irrelephant.
Haven’t played with them before but they seem fine so far.


Especially for you, Skitter.

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Post Post #103 (isolation #7) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:49 am

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In post 90, Mitillos wrote:@the worst: I'm sure you're perfectly fluffy. Aggressiveness is a separate property altogether. We'll probably talk at length later. As for Irellephant, I've seen a ton of games he joined late or didn't talk for a very long time (ignoring these), and a bunch of newbie ones where he is the SC (ignoring these too). Other than that, looking at his recently finished games,
I've seen three games where he doesn't wagonjump a lot as a townie, and one where he does as mafia.
Unless someone else who has played with him a lot wants to provide additional data, I'm going with this and with the OMGUS on me, so now my vote is serious. Could you explain your Performer vote? I thought his post was pretty standard RVS.

@Nauci: If it ends early, that's how you know it worked. :Þ

@AlmostNancy: Any reads yet? Also, any response to skitter's request about signing your posts?
Interesting, the bolded because wagon jumping is something I tend to associate with town!Creature. Of course, we don’t have much to go by yet on him.

How many games have you played with Elephant before?
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Post Post #105 (isolation #8) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 12:00 pm

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In post 104, Mitillos wrote:@Irrelephant: You jumped votes between your first two posts (which were within a page of each other) as mafia in micro 824.2 (and I note that on that one your jump was away from the wagon on your scumbuddy).
By comparison you took longer to switch votes in mini normal 2042 as town, and even when you did switch, you almost immediately unvoted.
You also took your time to switch votes in mini 2018 again as town.
I'm having trouble finding the third one again, so maybe I was wrong about that. But hey, 2 out of 3 ain't bad.

@worst: Irrelephant himself claimed that he likes wagons. Shoshin said that his first two posts were Irrelephant-town. I was looking to match or counter these claims. I don't know about your Performer position. It was his first post and still early in the game, so I don't think it's reasonable to expect him to be out of RVS like that. You had the benefit of 3 fast-paced pages, but he wasn't here to be subjected to that. I just don't see it as alignment-indicative.

@Shoshin: See above for numbers of the games. Also, reason for your Performer vote?

By the way, this might become a recurring theme, so just to address this in advance: I will always ask why people vote for people, if they don't provide reasons (assuming I spot this and am not busy with other discussions). I consider anything less than explaining oneself clearly as being anti-town at the very least.

@AlmostNancy: That was about Irrelephant, not Creature. Anyway, I have never played with Irrelephant. If I'm not mistaken, I've played two games with Varsoon, and maybe a couple of games with N_M? Those might have been MishMash, though. Everyone else is a complete unknown to me, unless they are alts.
If you’ve never played with him before, how are you so familiar with his meta?
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Post Post #129 (isolation #9) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 1:57 pm

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Hello, everyone.. it's me.. A50 :]

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I'm in the process of catching up, but I thought I'd let you know we probably landed the strongest TPR in the game. It's as strong as they come. Scum should be afraid of us. VERY afraid of us.

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Post Post #131 (isolation #10) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:02 pm

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In post 16, the worst wrote:VOTE: Mitillos
we lynch AlmostNancy tomorrow
no u :P
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Post Post #132 (isolation #11) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:05 pm

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In post 32, skitter30 wrote:
In post 16, the worst wrote:VOTE: Mitillos
we lynch AlmostNancy tomorrow
why'd you switch your vote here?
Why wouldn't he? I PM'd him THIS:

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Post Post #133 (isolation #12) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:07 pm

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In post 33, skitter30 wrote:also i want almostnancy to sign their posts cuz i can read a50 super well and i've never played with nancy so i want to try to sort them based on a50's posting

You're kidding. Right? I mean, if you can't tell my posts from Nancy's posts you're in dire need for some serious help already! :eek:
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Post Post #134 (isolation #13) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:11 pm

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Currently at the bottom of page 2, and I'm taking bets on how long I can go without hydra slipping! Any takers? :twisted:
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Post Post #135 (isolation #14) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:14 pm

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In post 64, the worst wrote:I got tonal towny tingles and minor bonus points
Speak gibberish, GDI!
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Post Post #136 (isolation #15) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:19 pm

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In post 67, Mitillos wrote:Creature because I don't much like it when people say something like "I'm a survivor" (or similar) early on for no reason and tend to automatically be biased against them.
Oops! I retract my claim though (although it's totally true) :P
In post 67, Mitillos wrote: Fifth p-edit: Good lord, I'm just never going to manage to post this, am I?
It's a ploy. We've all conspired to keep you from posting and then lynch you for lurking. Looks like it's working so far..

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Post Post #137 (isolation #16) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:21 pm

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In post 80, the worst wrote:
In post 77, AlmostNancy wrote:Hey guys, this is the Nancy head. This game seems like fun. I’m really glad, I finally get to play with Shoshin again.
NANCY!! <3
you're not glad you get to play with me again? :(
I typed a response.. decided it was too improper.. and deleted it. :twisted:
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Post Post #138 (isolation #17) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:26 pm

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In post 90, Mitillos wrote: @AlmostNancy: Any reads yet? Also, any response to skitter's request about signing your posts?
A50 responding here:

1- Yes. I've read up to this post I'm responding tom thank you for asking.

2- Notion overruled.

The defendant may now step down. Thank you.
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Post Post #139 (isolation #18) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:28 pm

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In post 91, Irrelephant11 wrote:shoshin why is nancy town?
because she received the same role PM I did, duh! You don't think I'd roll scum in my first game with Nancy, do you? That would be unfair and ever cruel to her sanity (to see my scum game from the inside out).
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Post Post #140 (isolation #19) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:31 pm

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In post 94, AlmostNancy wrote:Shoshin and TW are town.
I'll sheep you on Shoshin. I can't really read her myself (at least not in my previous 2 attempts).

The duck is a town lean, yes, but I wouldn't be betting money on it just yet.
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Post Post #141 (isolation #20) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:36 pm

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In post 101, AlmostNancy wrote:
In post 33, skitter30 wrote:also i want almostnancy to sign their posts cuz i can read a50 super well and i've never played with nancy so i want to try to sort them based on a50's posting
Sorry, I tend to forget. All the posts so far have been mine, so if A50 wants to make it to Almost51 . . . :P
Bad response, strategically speaking (Yeah, I wasn't here when Nancy did this).

See, the best way to read skitter is to get on her nerves and make her a little bit ancxious/angry.. just a little though. Once she ticks you (or rather I) would be able to read her better. As long as she's well composed and calm her town meta can easily be faked as scum (this only applies to the start of the game though. Later down the road she will inevitably show me her hand)
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Post Post #142 (isolation #21) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:40 pm

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In post 104, Mitillos wrote:@AlmostNancy: That was about Irrelephant, not Creature. Anyway, I have never played with Irrelephant. If I'm not mistaken, I've played two games with Varsoon, and maybe a couple of games with N_M? Those might have been MishMash, though. Everyone else is a complete unknown to me, unless they are alts.
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Post Post #143 (isolation #22) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:51 pm

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In post 107, Mitillos wrote:Incidentally, I saw in post #1 a mention of "informed status" not being revealed on flip. I've never played in a game with informed players, so I was wondering if the information they have should be shared with the rest of the town. Thoughts?
Finally, a useful subject.

If you think it should be shared then by all means, do share. If not then don't. Like why would you be telling us there is -say- a player with the loved modifier when we will get to know that later on anyway? On contrast, why would you hide something like -say- "all scum have guns" (unless you yourself are the Gunsmith).

Note: No. That's not a hint or a crumb. It's a reference to this game where I was indeed an informed Gunsmith who knew the scum team all had guns (all = both of them).
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Post Post #144 (isolation #23) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:55 pm

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In post 2, Krazy wrote:Flips will NOT include fake role PMs supplied to anti-town factions, only their real PM.
OK, this sucks, but probably hints there are not enough fake claims for every single anti-town role, so they've been given some to pick from when they need to? Or it could be the other way around and there are too many that the mod felt like letting scum pick froma large pool! Hmmm.. never mind. Useless line of thought there. (Unless someone very familiar with the flavor would like to chime in)
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Post Post #145 (isolation #24) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:57 pm

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FTR, I have yet to properly read the rules and/or research the flavor. I also skipped all flavor videos (but I promise I will go back and catch up on all that stuff once I'm AWAKE enough. Right now I'm running on my spare battery and if that fails then I might as well drop asleep on the keyboard)
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Post Post #147 (isolation #25) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 3:03 pm

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In post 114, Saudade wrote:I'm upset I didnt get ginger kerrigan
shes hot
I wouldn't call ginger hot.. just a little spicy. Try Mexican chili pepper.
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Post Post #148 (isolation #26) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 3:07 pm

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In post 115, Saudade wrote:mark me town b!tches
Consider yourself marked.

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Post Post #149 (isolation #27) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 3:10 pm

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In post 130, the worst wrote:MACHO DISLOYAL-VIGGING LOYAL-SUPERCOPPING LYNCHPROOF TREESTUMP
GOOD GRIEF! How did you guess? :shifty:
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Post Post #152 (isolation #28) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 3:21 pm

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In post 150, Keyser Söze wrote:@skitter - you having a gut town read wasn’t my problem.


I think it was the over-explaination of the gut read (that I thought had undertones of sheeping Shoshin’s reason)

I.e over-justification
Trust me, skitter can talk much sometimes. The question is whether she's providing genuine content or just babbling. I say she's Town here.
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Post Post #153 (isolation #29) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 3:24 pm

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Also, signing off for today. Nancy can feel free to vote anyone she likes, and I will trust you all won't be trying to be mean to her while I'm asleep (you can be mean to me when I wake up. You know I don't mind) ;)
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Post Post #154 (isolation #30) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 3:44 pm

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In post 107, Mitillos wrote:@AlmostNancy: I'm not. I did what I said I was going to do in post 67, and had a look at a few of his recent games. If you mean why I was looking for the wagonjumping in particular, it was because Irrelephant himself used that as an explanation for his votes here, and because Shoshin (who has presumably played quite a bit with him) said it seemed like town Irrelephant behaviour.

Incidentally, I saw in post #1 a mention of "informed status" not being revealed on flip. I've never played in a game with informed players, so I was wondering if the information they have should be shared with the rest of the town. Thoughts?
I suppose it would depend on what that information consists of I guess, because you also wouldn’t want to help scum. So, as long as sharing that information is good for town, I’d say yes. Otherwise, maybe not such a good idea.

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Post Post #190 (isolation #31) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:39 am

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In post 156, Mitillos wrote:@Nancy: The thing is scum already has a lot of information, since scum know who they are. Information is the one thing town is lacking. My real worry is something that skitter touched on: we'd lose information from those who are nightkilled, and I like information. And now I've said "information" so many times it's weird.

Anyway, I think the information I have is good for the town to have in advance, and unlikely to be something that scum don't already know (since they have daytalk per post 0), so I will go ahead and share it:
There are no roles with the ninja modifier.

I'm liking skitter quite a bit, so far. Since "gut" is useless on its own as an explanatory tool, attempting to communicate her reads better is what good town does.

@Shoshin: I would still like an explanation for your Performer vote, please.
Okay, good to know, since ninja is usually a scum role.

Anyway, I’m townreading you for this post.
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Post Post #191 (isolation #32) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:43 am

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In post 188, Saudade wrote:
In post 127, Krazy wrote:
Votecount 1.4

skitter30(2)
~ (5), (10)

Performer(2)
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Mitillos(2)
~ (10), (1)
Xtoxm(1)
~ (15)
Irrelephant11(1)
~ (6)


Not Voting (7): Creature(2), Not_Mafia(0), Xtoxm(1), teacher(0), Saudade(4), Varsoon(0), AlmostNancy(9)

With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2018-12-13 17:14:24)


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Post Post #282 (isolation #33) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:32 am

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In post 278, Varsoon wrote: Shoshin townreads Irrelephant immediately (If pocketing, it's clearly worked, Irrel thinks Shoshin is 99.9% town here as of the most recent page)
Irrel says Creature is town, then takes it back when Creature claims survivor.
Shoshin says Mitillos is town-ish.
Shoshin reiterates that Irrel and Mitllos are town, doesn't provide rationale for Irrel but does for Mitillos.
Irrel says Shoshin and The Worst are town, posits skitter as more-likely town than not
Skitter comes to the conclusion that Mitilos can be 'town for now'. There were earlier talks of low-key town reads from skitter but I didn't take those as the bold townread this is
Skitter calls basically everyone who's posted town besides The Worst: mtilos, irrel, creature, nauci, shoshin
Shoshin calls Nancy town. I actually really don't like this one because it seems to be indicating to Nancy that 'this is a repeat of Labyrinth, remember that one game I was town, yes, I am town here'.
AlmostNancy calls Shoshin and TheWorst town.
TheWorst calls Shoshin town.
Keyser townleads Shoshin, early recognizes lots of Townreads coming from Shoshin and TW.
Saudade calls TheWorst town.
AlmostNancy's other head sheeps the first on a Shoshin TR.
Skitter calls AlmostNancy town
Skitter voices a strong town read on Mitillos
TheWorst calls AlmostNancy town

So If I'm keeping a Town-vote-count here:
Shoshin (5):
Irrelephant, Skitter, AlmostNancy, TheWorst, Keyser
TheWorst (3):
Irrelephant, AlmostNancy, Saudade
AlmostNancy (3):
Shoshin, Skitter, The Worst
Irrelephant (2):
Shoshin, Skitter
Mitillos (2):
Shoshin, Skitter
Creature (1):
Skitter
Nauti (1):
Skitter

So, Skitter and Shoshin obviously hand out the most townreads here.
In the case of both of them, I don't really understand how they've come to all of these conclusions.
Shoshin's garnered the most townreads, and this is within 200 posts--8 pages.
Look at that, though; there's more TOWNREADS given than votes--17 townreads, only 10 votes in that time (and this is only counting hard townreads, though my count may be off on votes)
That's wild to me. That's a clear indicator that someone's not being genuine.
And if you look at the data, it's got to either be skitter or shoshin.
Here's where this gets really wild:
Shosin's got townreads on most the players townreading herself.
Skitter's not being townread by anyone but is still giving out a ton of townreads.
I don't really know what to make of it, to be honest.
And I think I'm getting way more onto having more information than analysis here, but
I don't think Shoshin's reads are genuinely informed. I think Shoshin's townreads are hugely based on how players are reading Shoshin and how much Shoshin is capable of influencing others by handing out TRs.
That's what I was feeling when I voted for Shoshin. That's what I still feel now.
What do you all think?

P-EDIT:
I want to be clear that my aggression re:Shoshin is entirely at their play. Shoshin's a good dude outside of game and I apologize if they take any of this personally, that's not my intent.
These recent votes make me want to rejoin the Shoshin wagon but I feel very biased and I'm worried this might just be a ploy to drag me back in with the level of vitriol I had before.
I want to really sit down and assess this.

@Performer: It's entirely in Shoshin's town!wheelhouse to write someone off as scum like that, from my experience. I'm trying to parse if it's actually Shoshin's intent to lean into that kind of play or if it's just them being town and making a poor judgment call, influenced by bad blood.

@Xtoxm: What do you think about the way that Shoshin's handled their TRs, though? How is Shoshin scum for TRs but not Skitter as well?
Hey, Varsoon, we need to be higher on this list, because you forgot my townread on mitilos. Please fix that. :]
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Post Post #284 (isolation #34) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:35 am

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P.edit. I think you’re barking up the wrong tree, you shoild be cataloging scumreads instead. Scum frequently has a disproportionate ratio of scumreads v townreads.
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Post Post #288 (isolation #35) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:38 am

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In post 283, Irrelephant11 wrote:honestly I think the moral of the story is shoshin/almostnancy/theworst should be the unbreakable townblock for the entire game
You forgot mitilos but I want to add you now too, because I want to win Varsoon’s townreading competition.
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Post Post #301 (isolation #36) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:59 am

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@Varsoon,

Spoiler:




I’m liking you tonally but I sincerely hope you’re trolling us here. If not, I’m worried.


Did I just win this contest? \o/

:lol:
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Post Post #314 (isolation #37) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:09 am

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In post 289, Varsoon wrote:
In post 284, AlmostNancy wrote:P.edit. I think you’re barking up the wrong tree, you shoild be cataloging scumreads instead. Scum frequently has a disproportionate ratio of scumreads v townreads.
I'm not re-reading those first 10 pages ever again
If you wanna do that, be my guest, though it's hard to parse who has a legitimate scumread and not just 'bad vibes' or is voting someone for pressure.
Isn’t that typical for the first 10 pages? Usually when people go back and reread them after some flips, do most players form really strong scumreads.
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Post Post #355 (isolation #38) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:05 am

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In post 326, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 315, Shoshin wrote:
In post 312, Keyser Söze wrote:Creature should be a null read for everyone right now.
I thought the humor in his posts around were townish.
I don’t think he’s done anything so far that scum-Creature couldn’t easily replicate (that’s not me saying I’m an expect on Creature scum-meta)
Except for the survivor claim. Creature isn’t one to fake claim - especially as scum. Take it from me, I was scum with him in Heroes Wanted and he was terrified to even post in the scum PT, for fear of slipping up. However, that role in general is easily fakable but Creature really dislikes lying.
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Post Post #358 (isolation #39) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:10 am

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In post 350, Krazy wrote:
Votecount 1.6

Shoshin(3)
~ (1), (5), (9)

Performer(3)
~ (48), (32), (17)
Xtoxm(1)
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Varsoon(1)
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Not Voting (7): Creature(26), (24), Not_Mafia(0), (15), Saudade(15), (35), AlmostNancy(38)

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Post Post #361 (isolation #40) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:13 am

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In post 359, Shoshin wrote:Hey AlmostNancy, can one of you sign your posts? I can't tell which of you is posting.
Sorry, this morning it’s all been me.

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Post Post #363 (isolation #41) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:17 am

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In post 252, Performer wrote:It's like people are actively making it hard for me to keep up in this game...sigh
In post 67, Mitillos wrote:I am not an alt. I just haven't played in a very long time. Also worst posted before irrelephant.
Ah ok, it's because you're the only person I haven't played with or even heard of.
the posting - I checked again and it was because of my pg dn key, it scrolled past the mod's wall posts all the way into Irrel's post so I thought that was his confirm itt.

In post 85, the worst wrote:
In post 83, AlmostNancy wrote:Oh and we have a decent mod in this game.
oof burn
lol I somewhat agree with a50
though I would change "decent" to "superb"

In post 107, Mitillos wrote:Incidentally, I saw in post #1 a mention of "informed status" not being revealed on flip. I've never played in a game with informed players, so I was wondering if the information they have should be shared with the rest of the town. Thoughts?
Well, my first thought is I don't have any experience in ever seeing someone say something like this. But if someone is informed and wants to share it, I'd say it depends. I don't think it's a black and white one-size-fits-all solution.
Wrt the bolded, that was me. :lol:

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Post Post #370 (isolation #42) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:31 am

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In post 329, Keyser Söze wrote:I actually have (old) playhistory with Creature, Performer, Varsoon and teacher (?) so may dig up those games


I can definitely remember playing with Varsoon (I can remember swearing at him :giggle: )
I would like to hear your teacher read in particular, also Performer, since I already have meta with Varsoon and Creature, although I wouldn’t consider myself anywhere adept at being a confident Varsoon reader at this point. I feel pretty confident I can read Creature though.

Anyway, I’m liking you so far.
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Post Post #372 (isolation #43) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:33 am

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In post 368, Nauci wrote:
In post 350, Krazy wrote:
Votecount 1.6

Shoshin(3)
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Performer(3)
~ (48), (32), (17)
Xtoxm(1)
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Varsoon(1)
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Not Voting (7): Creature(26), (24), Not_Mafia(0), (15), Saudade(15), (35), AlmostNancy(38)

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Post Post #378 (isolation #44) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:40 am

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In post 369, Xtoxm wrote:Lol @ having 2 strong instant scum reads in a large game. Get ove4 yourself.
In post 276, Xtoxm wrote:VOTE: shosin

I was already getting scum vibes from calling a bunch of different people town for no reason and campaigning for a policy lynch is just a dick move
So, it’s townier to have no reads?
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Post Post #385 (isolation #45) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:46 am

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In post 252, Performer wrote:It's like people are actively making it hard for me to keep up in this game...sigh
In post 67, Mitillos wrote:I am not an alt. I just haven't played in a very long time. Also worst posted before irrelephant.
Ah ok, it's because you're the only person I haven't played with or even heard of.
the posting - I checked again and it was because of my pg dn key, it scrolled past the mod's wall posts all the way into Irrel's post so I thought that was his confirm itt.

In post 85, the worst wrote:
In post 83, AlmostNancy wrote:Oh and we have a decent mod in this game.
oof burn
lol I somewhat agree with a50
though I would change "decent" to "superb"
In post 107, Mitillos wrote:Incidentally, I saw in post #1 a mention of "informed status" not being revealed on flip. I've never played in a game with informed players, so I was wondering if the information they have should be shared with the rest of the town. Thoughts?
Well, my first thought is I don't have any experience in ever seeing someone say something like this. But
if someone is informed and wants to share it, I'd say it depends. I don't think it's a black and white one-size-fits-all solution.
I’m not really seeing why Performer is scum here. I disagree with his Shoshin vote but otherwise, nothing is really hard pinging me at this point.
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Post Post #390 (isolation #46) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:51 am

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In post 380, Xtoxm wrote:Yeah, because anyone claiming strong reads this early in the game is more likely to just be
lying
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Interesting you’d say “lying” as opposed to just wrong.

So, lemme get this straight. According to you, everyone who has claimed to have a strong read - either town or scum - is more likely to be straight-up lying than wrong.

Wow, this must be like the most scum sided game in the history of Mafia then.
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Post Post #391 (isolation #47) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:53 am

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In post 390, AlmostNancy wrote:
In post 380, Xtoxm wrote:Yeah, because anyone claiming strong reads this early in the game is more likely to just be
lying
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Interesting you’d say “lying” as opposed to just wrong.

So, lemme get this straight. According to you, everyone who has claimed to have a strong read - either town or scum - is more likely to be straight-up lying than wrong.

Wow, this must be like the most scum sided game in the history of Mafia then.
P.edit. By wrong, I mean not sure.
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Post Post #402 (isolation #48) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:03 am

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In post 386, skitter30 wrote:ok the game like doubled since i went to sleep last night lol; might take more than one post to catchup
In post 179, Nauci wrote:106 I have very WIFOM thoughts about this post and the use of "same team" instead of "both town." I would think scum faking this banter would take care to say "town" instead of "same team"? But then again, if this was a casual thought typed directly into the box without too much thought for manipulation, it felt quite scummy.
if they're scum together why would he say it here instead of in the scum pt?

i don't really think saying 'same team' instead of 'town' is much indiciative of anything tbh
except that it's all-encompassing and he might be referring to past games where they were svt and other games where they were tvs, and 'same team' kinda refers to both past scenarios in one phrase if that makes sense

(i don't know what their history is)

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@saudade - is 'the cat' referring to nauci?

==
In post 206, Mitillos wrote:Oh, cool, Varsoon is here. Now to sort out whether it's N's N. N. N. Varsoon, or Among the Chosen Varsoon. So far he looks like his town self, so that's not a wagon I'm interested in atm.
how do you characterize town!varsoon?
In post 218, Mitillos wrote:@Shoshin: I'd rather not talk about that quite yet, and wait to see what he does for a few dozen posts, instead of just saying "Hey, Varsoon, here's how you can convince me you are town, enjoy".
Also, I wouldn't consider it a waste of time, so I'd like to see your response to Varsoon, but I won't insist if you really don't want to.
fair enough, but i'd like to hear a little later since i'm not suepr great at reading him

==
In post 210, Saudade wrote:עד מתי נוב12
just curious, was the 12 supposed to be here?

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In post 214, Varsoon wrote:I provided plenty of reasons for my scumread.
You just saying that there's not any is literally wrong.

Once again, Shoshin
You're either scum or your judgment is flawed.
Which is it this time?
i mean we did this last time

from your posts on the last page i can tell you're not following her thought process. ie the things you called out from her i don't think are actually scum-indicative from her really, but i can understand why you're questioning them; i also think it's unlikely that you'll get answers to those questions from her

i think she's obvtown for her
i'm trying not to engaging her because she frustrates me, so i'm content to have just sorted her and move on with my existence

i think you should listen to me/irrel here given that we tried to tell you this last time and were right

i haven't sorted you yet

do you ever pick fights with people on purpose as scum?

what were your most recent scumgames again?

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In post 221, Varsoon wrote:Furthermore, me taking umbrage with people having easy townreads isn't even a scumtell or a towntell, it's literally what any player should do regardless of align when, within 6 pages, there are over a dozen thrown out 'this person is town' naked reads.
ok, what do you think of me doing that?

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In post 222, Irrelephant11 wrote:Someone stop me - I feel like mitillos' scumread of me is agenda-y, and I would not like to tunnel on town if I am wrong.
i disagree with his reasoning for why he exluded your se games but i can understand it

holistically i'm tending town on him

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In post 224, Shoshin wrote:As for trajectory, did I need one? It's post 51 of the game. But sure, here's the trajectory: I asked Skitter a question about her read on Mitillos, because I felt that she was sheeping me. As you can see later in the game, when I explain the vote on Skitter, I state that the reasons I suspected Skitter were due to the way she was following my reads (as well as others) instead of forming her own, which felt very different to me than the way Skitter played as town in my prevoius two games with her. That was my trajectory. A question, followed by a vote when I saw someone else had the same feelings. I strongly believe that having others who share your feelings about something adds strength to the force behind those feelings, and in this case it did. That isn't "spineless," though - it's just smart play.
i disagree that i sheeped you
i had similar conclusions as you did.
that doesn't mean i had them *because* you did, or that i was trying to mimic you on purpose

like i'm not sure how you can even possibly distinguish sheeping you from forming my own reads that incidentally were similar to yours at that stage and i dislike that you assumed it was the former instead of the latter (i've previously told you how i feel about sheeping even ...?)

==

i think i retract the townlean i had on creature earlier

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In post 264, Performer wrote:
In post 197, Varsoon wrote:It's kind of baffling that you propose a policy lynch on me and when Irrel + The Worst + Performer deny it outright
Fixed.

I dont like policy lynching (and for that matter I dont believe in the notion of "too scummy to be scum")
this post is kinda pinging me
i'm not sure which way yet

i'm putting it here so i hopefully remember to go back to it at some point

==
ok starting a new post
Well, I do find it scummy in general to fix quotes without giving some hint as to what was changed. I read Shoshin’s whole policy lynch on Varsoon thing as a joke, much like I read TW’s promising to lynch us tomorrow as one.

~N

Okay, I’m starting to understand A50’s townread on you. Definitely agree with you on militos.
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Post Post #412 (isolation #49) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:09 am

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In post 392, Xtoxm wrote:You know if varsoon wasn't in this game I would just replace out at this point because the attitude coming from many players is totally disgusting
Do you not have an opinion on my post or was that one it? :lol:

If so, I officially throw my hat in the ring for the “disgusting” contest. Based on your quirky creative interpretations of words, I think this one has real potential.
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Post Post #421 (isolation #50) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:17 am

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In post 382, Irrelephant11 wrote:xtoxm you should post more so that it is harder for nauci to mislynch you
Why are you so sure xtoxm is a mislynch? Is this based on meta?
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Post Post #429 (isolation #51) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:31 am

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In post 407, Shoshin wrote:Nancy, what're your reads so far?
Militos, the worst, you, Skitter, Varsoon, I think are town. Irrelephant11, Keyzer, townleans for now. I haven’t ISO’d everyone yet.

I think at least one scum is on your wagon. Unfortunately, I have no meta on any of them.
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Post Post #434 (isolation #52) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:41 am

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In post 351, Nauci wrote:
In post 264, Performer wrote:
In post 197, Varsoon wrote:It's kind of baffling that you propose a policy lynch on me and when Irrel + The Worst + Performer deny it outright
Fixed.

I dont like policy lynching (and for that matter I dont believe in the notion of "too scummy to be scum")
Further self conscious posting that makes me suspicious af
Well, it was so freaking obvious that she was joking. Because her and Varsoon haven’t the best history, I can understand him not getting it but anyone else?
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Post Post #441 (isolation #53) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:54 am

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In post 387, Varsoon wrote:Performer's double-back onto Shoshin while parroting my reads right after I fell off the wagon seems like reason enough.
When Shoshin flipped town, I'd be the one to catch the rap for it and Performer could sneak off into the shadows, having successfully got a lynch on someone that about half of town reads as town.
Oh okay, I know nothing of his meta but you and Shoshin both in agreement, like on anything, gives me comfort.
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Post Post #449 (isolation #54) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:59 am

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In post 352, Nauci wrote:
In post 276, Xtoxm wrote:VOTE: shosin

I was already getting scum vibes from calling a bunch of different people town for no reason and campaigning for a policy lynch is just a dick move
This is the least original post in the game

Varsoon are you going to call out this plagiarism


My naughty list is currently xtoxm, performer, and possibly Keyser but that's just for having been relatively quiet for keyser
Okay adding you to my town list and strengthening my townread on Irrelephant11.

I think I really like most of this playerlist. Glad I signed up.

The bolded: :lol:
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Post Post #461 (isolation #55) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:08 am

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In post 444, Shoshin wrote:I've got Irrelephant, the worst, Nauci, Nancy, Skitter, and Mitillos as town.

Creature, Varsoon, NM, Key, Saudade, teacher, and xtom are varying degrees of null, some leaning town, others scum.

Performer's still scummy, but the "Fixed" post actually has me rethinking whether scum would actually play this badly. So I want to reevaluate a few things.

As a starting point, does anyone disagree with my townreads?
Nope, we’re mindmelding on that.

As for your null reads, lurking isn’t a good sign for NM and I’m not liking xtom’s excessive negativity. Haven’t ISO’ Saudade yet and need more info on teacher. Not currently concerned with Varsoon, Key and Creature.

What about Schaad and Mastina? Why aren’t they posting more?
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Post Post #473 (isolation #56) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:14 am

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In post 462, the worst wrote:
In post 212, Shoshin wrote:comparing
That's funny, I thought this was more like his town indicative habit of pushing fairly abstract reads and being highly reactive more than his scum habit of trying to pluck members from the towncore. Do you think scum!Harpoon leaps in and attacks the most widely townread player this way?
Why are you calling him “Harpoon”?
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Post Post #523 (isolation #57) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:59 am

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In post 1, Krazy wrote:1b. Sexual innuendo toward other players will result in a moderator warning.
Right. No hinting or suggestive comments. How about the direct explicit ones though? I always go for the naked truth.

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In post 1, Krazy wrote: 2b.
Do not state, whether honest or false, that you have not read your role pm
in-thread.
Now I'm confused. First you say no innuendo, but now you say no stating something. Which is it?
In post 1, Krazy wrote:Scum can night kill their teammates, but I must see evidence that such a move is not game-throwing.
You mean like.. they should provide surveillance camera feed that they caught their teammates stealing from the gang?
In post 1, Krazy wrote: 4a. Gifs this size are ok, any larger should be spoilered:
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i.e. gifs this size should be spoilered:
Spoiler:
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GOTCHA!

In post 1, Krazy wrote:Breadcrumbs are generally okay.
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I always follow the rules to the letter.
In post 1, Krazy wrote:2. Do not edit or delete your post if for some reason you have the ability to do so.
I cannot follow this rule unless you give me editing rights. Only THEN can I willingly refrain from doing so.
In post 1, Krazy wrote:5. Trust tells are prohibited.
Trust me. I won't tell.
In post 1, Krazy wrote:7. No Bah! posts.
BAH! God, I HATE this rule!
In post 1, Krazy wrote:1. Follow the spirit of the rules.
I got me a connection

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In post 1, Krazy wrote:8a. Do not state that you have not been reading the game.
What fool would believe me if I said that after this post?? :shifty:
In post 1, Krazy wrote:Matt Horner
Oh, behave!

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I loved the name though.

Spoiler: Off Topic / Irrelevant
In post 2, Krazy wrote:Flips may in some cases include the kill action type.
So the 3P is a Serial Killer.

@Nauci:

Re re I think same team/side is the right usage here considering Xtoxm is indicating he doesn't know Varsoon's alignment. For one thing, if they were together in a non-Town team he'd know it already, and for another he says the 7th attempt which could mean they rolled scum in the same game but not on the same team. In short, that phrasing is NAI to me.
In post 181, the worst wrote:VOTE: Harpoon
first person to ask why I'm joining this wagon gets a broken nose xox
Did anyone ask that yet? Because I don't want a broken nose between my glasses and my bad teeth.
In post 186, Saudade wrote:i did say on page 5 that im not reading the first 5 pages
Did you read the rules? You can ignore reading the whole damn thing but you can't
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you're not reading. In other words LIE to get by.
In post 209, Saudade wrote:Ах ты корова....
In post 210, Saudade wrote:עד מתי נוב12
:facepalm:

OK, I'll read the rest of the thread and leave notes (if any) for Nancy in the hydra PT.
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Post Post #537 (isolation #58) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:14 am

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In post 359, Shoshin wrote:Hey AlmostNancy, can one of you sign your posts? I can't tell which of you is posting.
It's easier than easy. If you think it's a decent and cute post it's Nancy's. If you think it's bold, crazy or convoluted it's mine.

Come on, Shoshin. You played both me and my naughty twin brother (AP). ;)

@Everyone: This is Shoshin hard distancing with our slot, but also truly confused about which of us is posting. It's because I told her to go easy on Nancy because Nancy is emotional, while I am bold and well composed under pressure so Shoshin should be throwing all she can at me when I'm online. Now you know. :P
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Post Post #547 (isolation #59) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:19 am

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In post 378, AlmostNancy wrote:
In post 369, Xtoxm wrote:Lol @ having 2 strong instant scum reads in a large game. Get ove4 yourself.
In post 276, Xtoxm wrote:VOTE: shosin

I was already getting scum vibes from calling a bunch of different people town for no reason and campaigning for a policy lynch is just a dick move
So, it’s townier to have no reads?
BOOM! Slam dunk! :P
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Post Post #567 (isolation #60) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:48 am

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In post 414, Shoshin wrote:A thought: Nancy once called me "shamelessly bad," "atrocious," and "a blight on the ecosystem" in the middle of a game, and maybe other things I forgot about? It was quite harsh. But now we're friends? So I hope that all the players who dislike me will one day come to enjoy my playstyle.
Not really game related, but generally speaking I try to keep what happens in a game to that specific game. Like, I could call someone stupid.. I could call them incompetent.. I could go as far as saying I will black list them, but I never do, and often enough they'll find me playing with them in the very next game too.
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Post Post #578 (isolation #61) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:16 pm

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In post 422, Nauci wrote:my "read" on teacher is wholly independent of his posts and rests on the idea that 3 scum wouldn't vote shoshin together and I don't scum read teacher as much as the others.
I am null on teacher, but just wanted to point out I have personally instructed my team to vote together and in succession on one target in early game to fool this VCA tactic in particular. I also would like to point out it was also used in the Team Mafia 2018 by at least one scum team for the same purpose.

~Obviously Not Nancy :P
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Post Post #582 (isolation #62) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:34 pm

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In post 413, Nauci wrote:
In post 390, AlmostNancy wrote:
In post 380, Xtoxm wrote:Yeah, because anyone claiming strong reads this early in the game is more likely to just be
lying
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Interesting you’d say “lying” as opposed to just wrong.

So, lemme get this straight. According to you, everyone who has claimed to have a strong read - either town or scum - is more likely to be straight-up lying than wrong.

Wow, this must be like the most scum sided game in the history of Mafia then.
Nice catch
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Post Post #583 (isolation #63) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:35 pm

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In post 414, Shoshin wrote:A thought: Nancy once called me "shamelessly bad," "atrocious," and "a blight on the ecosystem" in the middle of a game, and maybe other things I forgot about? It was quite harsh. But now we're friends? So I hope that all the players who dislike me will one day come to enjoy my playstyle.
One day, I want someone to send me a Hallmark card like this. :wink:
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Post Post #584 (isolation #64) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:39 pm

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In post 417, Nauci wrote:
In post 409, Varsoon wrote:
In post 405, Nauci wrote:
In post 369, Xtoxm wrote:Lol @ having 2 strong instant scum reads in a large game. Get ove4 yourself.
I'm glad you decided to respond to pressure with great contributions and sortable content that makes it easy to town read you
Hey maybe don't be a prat like this.
Hey maybe I don't respond to condescension with acquiescence
I kind of like your style. You even share my good taste. One of my hydras has that as its avatar. It would have been hillarious if I was playing with that hydra in this game.
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Post Post #585 (isolation #65) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:44 pm

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In post 423, Creature wrote:I need something to feel better
How about a readslist? I hear Gwyneth Paltrow swears by them.
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Post Post #586 (isolation #66) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:47 pm

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In post 428, Mitillos wrote:@Nauci: I've definitely seen scum vote together, if they thought they could pull it off on charisma alone. Also, I think post 0 mentioned the possibility of third parties, so that's another dimension altogether.
I think I see what you mean about performer being self-conscious. I'll reread because you may have a point there. As for xtoxm, you could make the same accusation on N_M, and to a lesser degree teacher. In fact, I will remind you that teacher's post (177, so 8 pages in) just had a soft defense on Performer and an unexplained vote on Shoshin. xtoxm at least gave some content (e.g. telling Varsoon he is not townreading skitter). At this time, I'd be more suspicious of teacher than xtoxm.
Why is teacher more suspicious than xtoxm?
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Post Post #588 (isolation #67) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:50 pm

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In post 544, Shoshin wrote:
In post 537, AlmostNancy wrote:Come on, Shoshin. You played both me and my naughty twin brother (AP).
Can you remind me when we played together?
First game: The one you were an Even Night Cop and got Vigged N1 and Flavor Leaf faked Masons with Scum Creature. I was the Town RB.

Second game: I was using my alt (AP) and I fake claimed Vengeful. (And now I'm second guessing myself if you really were in that game. It was modded by Skygazer)
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Post Post #589 (isolation #68) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:53 pm

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NVM. I confused you with Shashaddin
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Post Post #592 (isolation #69) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:57 pm

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In post 576, Varsoon wrote:
In post 569, Shoshin wrote:Varsoon, what's your read on Xtom?
He's a player that I played with a long time ago and had a blast with, but his play here has been very barebones and minimal.
I'm not a huge fan of what's there but I don't think him sheeping my reasons for voting you is particularly duplicitous--he probably was just buying into a lot of what I was laying down.
I wish he'd come back in and play more.
In post 570, Nauci wrote:Varsoon, why do you treat the game as if fighting the town read on shoshin or sarcastic shitposting about townreading shoshin are your only options?

Both are unproductive, and there are countless other ways to engage. Ignoring shoshin and her reads, what do you think of other players?

What are your thoughts on AlmostNancy? Specifically, on the Almost50 half, actually.
It's not sarcastic shitposting, it's facts. Get with it.
I'm forgoing a lot of my own agency for what I believe is a plan of action much more likely to result in a win for town.
Yeah, it sucks, and I'm a bit bitter about it and I'm working through that, bear with me, but it really is a pill I need to swallow so that we can come out ahead.

Other players? Just read my posts. I'm probably wrong anyway, so I wouldn't put a lot of stock in my judgments.
I think it's kinda fucked that someone dropped a whole great post about why Irrel could just be obvious conning us and people were all "Oh no this is just irrel lol don't get paranoid"
But that's my paranoia speaking. I was literally wrong on my paranoia on irrel in the newbie game we shared, so I'm probably wrong here.
Best to just trust Shoshin.

I have no idea why AlmostNancy has such a townread. Neither head has done anything that's impressed me or challenged the gamestate, imo.
They're playing really safe despite all the content they've generated, which is actually fairly par for the course for both heads, especially Nancy.
I couldn't tell you about A50 specifically, though, as I haven't really had the time or passion to differentiate the two.
Varsoon, in BoR, you pushed me for doing the exact opposite of that. I know you were scum in that game but tbf, I was putting a lot of energy into figuring out the setup. I don’t need to do that here. And it’s nice to be mindmelding on reads. Not everyone enjoys arguing, I know I don’t. So, I realy don’t understand why you think we’re playing it “safe” here? How is what I’m doing here, all that different, than what I do in every other game I’ve been in?
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Post Post #596 (isolation #70) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:05 pm

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In post 593, Varsoon wrote:That's what I'm saying.
It's par for the course.
I just have a hard playstyle difference from you
Guess I can't read you accuratey
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Once I get really good reads, usually later in the game, my play changes. Labrynth was kind of a fluke because there was such obvious blatantly scummy players like TPFKAP, for example. Anyway, Xman is my strongest scumread atm. I just need to figure out how to spell it first.
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Post Post #598 (isolation #71) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:10 pm

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In post 595, Varsoon wrote:Eugh
I hated showing my work.

But yeah I agree, Shoshin's methods are A+, way better than mine, which is why I'm following Shoshin here.

Real talk, though, don't fucking tell me to check Shoshin's meta when it only has a single scumgame in the whole damn thing.
I can't wait for the game when scum-Shoshin snows you all for eating out of her hands like a bunch of orphans who can't earn a damn thing yourselves.
You really think we’re all just blind sheeping her on reads here? I find that kind of insulting. I’m sheeping her ONLY because my reads happen to be mindmelding with hers. Make no mistake here, No way in hell, do I ever sheep
anyone
who’s reads run contrary to my own. Give me a little more credit than that.
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Post Post #600 (isolation #72) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:12 pm

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In post 597, Varsoon wrote:I'm really, really grateful that I don't have to be in a game with Porkens.
Now that's a policy lynch I could get behind.
Hands down, easiest player on the whole damn site to read correctly.
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Post Post #605 (isolation #73) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:29 pm

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In post 602, Varsoon wrote:
In post 600, AlmostNancy wrote:
In post 597, Varsoon wrote:I'm really, really grateful that I don't have to be in a game with Porkens.
Now that's a policy lynch I could get behind.
Hands down, easiest player on the whole damn site to read correctly.
Dude contributes nothing as either alignment and somehow slides into LYLO because people won't lynch no-effort garbage anymore.
Oh wait.
I dunno, I always have difficulty reading him correctly.
Guess it's cus our playstyles are so different.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Yeah, she knows I think. She calls any scumreads on her a “witchhunt”. She did that both in Labrynth and in Overkill 1.
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Post Post #606 (isolation #74) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:30 pm

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In post 601, Nauci wrote:Everyone else: what are your thoughts on Mit's informed claim? Is it genuine? Could it have been faked? Would it be useful for scum to fake something like that?
Not a chance. Not unless he Ninja modifier is attached to a non-killing action (example: Ninja RB, Ninja Framer.. etc.). In that case they can fool a hypothetical Watcher (which we don't even have confirmation exists) into thinking someone's lying about being RB'd or a Cop red result is true (which -again- is very unlikely because it requires a Watcher to be targeting the same person the Cop is, or at least the same PR the Scum RB is blocking).

However, Ninja is usually attacked to kills (either a player or the factional kill) and if someone flips with a Ninja modifier, or if a Watcher existed was on the NK and saw no one visiting, it will result in an instant lynch of Mitillos.

But since you brought me "home" (theorizing about the setup) I'd say a Serial Killer who was informed there was no Watcher in the game could use that gambit. Maybe a Mafia team with that info would too.
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Post Post #607 (isolation #75) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:35 pm

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In post 601, Nauci wrote:
In post 568, Varsoon wrote:Nauci's posts actually ping me really hard as scum and I don't have much reason besides 'gut'.
I'm sure a better player can make a better case there if Nauci is actually scum, though.
I've been amused that while I've been more hesitant to hand out hard reads (which is my style but can look like scum keeping options open) and not even explaining the ones I've given, you were FOSing elsewhere.

The game I modded had like >600 Saudade posts so I see no reason to form strong cases for anything yet, with probably 50+ pages left to go on Day 1. My stance on performer and xtoxm is based on a very strong reaction to the few posts they have but I just don't have enough information this game to form strong opinions.

Keyser, Skitter30, and AlmostNancy—what are your thoughts on Performer's reaction to the scumreads on him? Or on Shoshin moving off the wagon?

@shoshin how have you only rolled scum once? Please tell TW and I of your secrets. Do you sacrifice virgins to RNGesus?

@varsoon I thought I was explicitly explaining that A: this behavior is within town-shoshin bounds even if it could be scum it shouldn't be the basis for a case, and B: we (the players I'm familiar with here) appreciate her for turning up evidence but do not sheep her reads

Everyone else: what are your thoughts on Mit's informed claim? Is it genuine? Could it have been faked? Would it be useful for scum to fake something like that?
Performer seemed to be OMGUSSING most of the votes on him - could be NAI?

Shoshin was testing that wagon and found a better one.

I believe Mit’s claim. I don’t really see the scum motivation in doing that but I was townreading them even without that.
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Post Post #609 (isolation #76) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:42 pm

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In post 401, Krazy wrote:Pylons

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Votecount 1.7

Performer(4)
~ (52), (42), (28), (46)

Shoshin(3)
~ (1), (8), (9)
Xtoxm(1)
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Varsoon(1)
~ (48)


Not Voting (6): Creature(26), (24), Not_Mafia(0), (15), Saudade(15), AlmostNancy(48)

With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2018-12-13 17:16:27)


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Post Post #610 (isolation #77) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:44 pm

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VOTE: Xtoxm

Strikes me a possibly disgruntled scum, like Shoshin said, pissed at the townblock.
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Post Post #616 (isolation #78) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:10 pm

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In post 611, Mitillos wrote:Did someone say math teacher?

@Nancy: I explained why teacher was more suspicious than xtoxm in the very post you quoted. His vote is without any reasons given, his post devoid of content except a weak and non-committal defense of Performer. That's even less effort than xtoxm had put into his posts.

@Varsoon: I claimed information. It got buried in my verbose style. Also, you should try to do something about that bitterness, quickly. Some of us have been explicitly asking for your own reads, and you insist on going on about how Shoshin is infallible. This is not helpful or relevant. Just because most of us are townreading both Irrelephant and Shoshin doesn't mean 1) we are automatically correct, 2) they are correct in their reads, or 3) we don't care about your reads. But you have to make the effort, and yes, show your work.
You prefer a teacher lynch instead? I’m not opposed to that. I would just prefer to see a few more posts of theirs. Also, I think Key claimed to have meta on teacher. @Key, help us out here. Based on that single post, how do you read teacher?
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Post Post #618 (isolation #79) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:13 pm

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In post 612, skitter30 wrote:
In post 552, the worst wrote:Imo his reentries to the thread are something scum!Creature avoids. [refer Heroes Wanted, possibly his strongest scumgame in ages]
i feel like his re-entries into threads is fluffier than i'm used to with town!him

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i kinda think varsoon is town too tbh

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In post 576, Varsoon wrote:I have no idea why AlmostNancy has such a townread. Neither head has done anything that's impressed me or challenged the gamestate, imo.
They're playing really safe despite all the content they've generated, which is actually fairly par for the course for both heads, especially Nancy.
I couldn't tell you about A50 specifically, though, as I haven't really had the time or passion to differentiate the two.
i don't know anything about nancy and don't have much of an opinion on her either way, although she feels very very guileless, which i tend to townread

i'm pretty good at reading the a50 head; his first few posts felt like town!him

i'm actually rethinking that now and i'm not as confident on that anymore

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In post 578, AlmostNancy wrote:I am null on teacher, but just wanted to point out I have personally instructed my team to vote together and in succession on one target in early game to fool this VCA tactic in particular. I also would like to point out it was also used in the Team Mafia 2018 by at least one scum team for the same purpose.
yep, and it worked too :)

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In post 601, Nauci wrote:Keyser, Skitter30, and AlmostNancy—what are your thoughts on Performer's reaction to the scumreads on him? Or on Shoshin moving off the wagon?
idk

the only time i played with him (as town) i townread him for very doggedly trying to find scum and pursuing his scumreads (even if i disagreed with him) and just being very try-hard i guess is the right way to explain it

(and then i ultimately mislynched him, oops)

i haven't seen that here yet

he also replaced in to that game on like day4 and had a lot of content so i don't know if that's a factor i should be taking into account when comparing his play here to there

overall i'm kinda underwhelemed but i feel like that might be a funcion of him being overwhelemed by the speed of the game and how many posts there are and not necessarily because he's scum

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In post 605, AlmostNancy wrote:Yeah, she knows I think. She calls any scumreads on her a “witchhunt”. She did that both in Labrynth and in Overkill 1.
i mean by posting that from now on all they have to do is avoid calling scumreads on them a witchunt and now you'll townread them if they see this

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In post 608, Varsoon wrote:Where did Mit even claim?
I remember them mentioning informed being in the setup, but don't recall an actual claim.
The secret already got outted in Overkill 1. Otherwise, I wouldn’t be posting it here.
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Post Post #620 (isolation #80) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:18 pm

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In post 617, the worst wrote:I have meta with teacher too!
And? Do you think they could be scum here?


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Post Post #622 (isolation #81) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:26 pm

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In post 621, the worst wrote:
In post 620, AlmostNancy wrote:
In post 617, the worst wrote:I have meta with teacher too!
And? Do you think they could be scum here?


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as a great and very confident salesman I know once said,

Probably not
Maybe


like there's nothing in his first post that really says either alignment, I think he'd agree with me saying he isn't playing yet
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Post Post #627 (isolation #82) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:51 pm

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In post 177, teacher wrote:Ho Lee Crud, this is definitely going to be a mistake if we are on page 8 already. But its such a good list.

@Nauci, nice to see you again and welcome back from your trip. Just the last game Elephant was making a joke about how weird it was to be in a game without you screaming about how good he is as scum.

@TW, performer always feels wolfy to me too, but I did not get any real vibes from the entrance here.

VOTE: Shoshin
Since this looks like an RVS vote and he is engaging with Nauci and TW and trying to sort Performer, I don’t see in what world, he is a better lynch than Xman. Sorry, I keep forgetting how to spell that. :/

Anyway, I will take TW’s word on him.
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Post Post #631 (isolation #83) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:11 pm

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In post 628, Mitillos wrote:I don't particularly want a teacher lynch at this time. I was simply discussing relative rankings. He needs to get back here and post thoughts, before I'd even consider that (which is also why I'm not voting him).
Okay. I think X’s behaviour is anti-town. He really hasn’t done a damn thing but regugitate angry Varsoon posts but unlike Varsoon, nothing remotely game solvey.
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Post Post #677 (isolation #84) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:43 pm

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In post 633, the worst wrote:
In post 485, Shoshin wrote:
In post 483, Creature wrote:Also, "disgusting" is such a strong word to use.
It's a strong emotion.

Who is more likely to feel disgust, town who sees a bunch of townreads floating around, or scum who sees a bunch of townies townreading each other?
This is pretty much the same circular thought I'm stuck in. I don't disagree that he feels tonally stunned but I can't quite decide if it's because he's losing or he dislikes site meta/the way this games being played

He's also not communicating at all and
this game has felt like.. really quite friendly so far.. like I love this list
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Post Post #678 (isolation #85) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:51 pm

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In post 660, Nauci wrote:Ducky you're one of the most fun players on the site

You're excellent at combatting cynicism and fatigue and an expert at defusing tense situations by just being you
+1

Yes, TW, usually ups the fun factor in any game he’s in. Also, who knew what an absolute riot of a hydra partner A50 would be as well. This is like one of my best D1s ever in a game and this is coming from someone who generally absolutely loathes Day 1s, with an unholy passion.
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Post Post #679 (isolation #86) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:52 pm

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In post 662, the worst wrote:{tw}
{shoshin, rel}
{creature, keyser, Mitillos, AlmostNancy}
{skitter*, Nauci, Performer}
{NM, teacher, Sausage} = null
{Xtoxm}

intentional omission = Varsoon

this is looking a bit middle heavy.....


*skitter -- you're here because while I am getting better at reading you, your scumrange is super super broad and I think we mutually sort better via real time interactions later in the game
Why is Creature town?
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Post Post #681 (isolation #87) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:30 pm

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In post 680, the worst wrote:
In post 552, the worst wrote:
In post 330, Shoshin wrote:
In post 327, Creature wrote:
In post 322, Shoshin wrote:
In post 318, Creature wrote:I remember having some handful number of townreads but didn't mention them through the thread because it felt too obvious
Please mention. Join us townreaders!
but I didn't keep track of them :/
the worst, what's your take on this? town or scum?
I think scum!Creature is more likely to just throw out townreads for the sake of having made them and is less likely to mention them at all if he's going to freeze up. Imo his reentries to the thread are something scum!Creature avoids. [refer Heroes Wanted, possibly his strongest scumgame in ages]

he's >rand town and >rand not scum unless his scumgame has developed again in a really unusual direction. I'm kinda being pretty cautious with this tho
sorry for the quote but I was really in the zone earlier & mobile posting

Creature isn't an easy read for me atm as you saw in Heroes Wanted but his involvement so far is kinda bringing me back to his early 2018 town meta
He hasn’t really given any reads so far. Nothing out of his scumrange. He is far from obvtown Creature as far as I can see in this game, so far.
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Post Post #697 (isolation #88) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:18 am

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In post 692, Keyser Söze wrote:This feels good

VOTE: Nauci
I won't try to dissuade anyone from voting anyone else, but I would very much appreciate a little explanation.

~TW :P
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Post Post #718 (isolation #89) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:27 am

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In post 664, skitter30 wrote:
In post 662, the worst wrote:*skitter -- you're here because while I am getting better at reading you, your scumrange is super super broad and I think we mutually sort better via real time interactions later in the game
like i said, tfw people think you have a decent scumgame

but fair enough, fair enough
Link? I’ve only ISO’d him in one scum game and he was dreadful in it. But I think his play here reads townie regardless.

So, probably more informative for future games and I’m genuinely curious to see what decent scum!TW plays like.
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Post Post #720 (isolation #90) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:30 am

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In post 686, Creature wrote:
In post 681, AlmostNancy wrote:
In post 680, the worst wrote:
In post 552, the worst wrote:
In post 330, Shoshin wrote:
In post 327, Creature wrote:
In post 322, Shoshin wrote:
In post 318, Creature wrote:I remember having some handful number of townreads but didn't mention them through the thread because it felt too obvious
Please mention. Join us townreaders!
but I didn't keep track of them :/
the worst, what's your take on this? town or scum?
I think scum!Creature is more likely to just throw out townreads for the sake of having made them and is less likely to mention them at all if he's going to freeze up. Imo his reentries to the thread are something scum!Creature avoids. [refer Heroes Wanted, possibly his strongest scumgame in ages]

he's >rand town and >rand not scum unless his scumgame has developed again in a really unusual direction. I'm kinda being pretty cautious with this tho
sorry for the quote but I was really in the zone earlier & mobile posting

Creature isn't an easy read for me atm as you saw in Heroes Wanted but his involvement so far is kinda bringing me back to his early 2018 town meta
He hasn’t really given any reads so far. Nothing out of his scumrange. He is far from obvtown Creature as far as I can see in this game, so far.
I actually gave reads
Yeah, I see now. Okay, TW may be right here.
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Post Post #721 (isolation #91) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:32 am

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In post 665, the worst wrote:I'm getting more early townpings from you than I did in coalition I think, mostly I think we've probably found the right way to read each other accurately

Feeling existential, I think I've learned a lot from a certain off-site game I played with one of the best town players I've ever encountered. there's so many ways to read different playstyles and probably my greatest weakness as a player is derptunnelling playstyles which are incompatible with mine and forgetting to use relevant tells
Yeah, I think that is true for a lot of players.
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Post Post #724 (isolation #92) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:36 am

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In post 682, the worst wrote:? I agree he's within his scumrange but I think he's further within his townrange

also..... he has been giving reads?

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In post 316, Creature wrote:
In post 311, Shoshin wrote:Performer, Xtoxm, and one of Teacher, Varsoon, or Not_Mafia as scumteam? Seems almost too easy.
Yeah, seems too easy
In post 327, Creature wrote:
In post 322, Shoshin wrote:
In post 318, Creature wrote:I remember having some handful number of townreads but didn't mention them through the thread because it felt too obvious
Please mention. Join us townreaders!
but I didn't keep track of them :/
In post 451, Creature wrote:
In post 322, Shoshin wrote:
In post 318, Creature wrote:I remember having some handful number of townreads but didn't mention them through the thread because it felt too obvious
Please mention. Join us townreaders!
Okay, let me try:

Irre, Nauci, Shoshin...
In post 453, Creature wrote:Irre, Nauci, Shoshin, Varsoon...
In post 455, Creature wrote:Irre, Nauci, Shoshin, Varsoon, Xtoxm...

Oh right good addition
In post 458, Creature wrote:
In post 386, skitter30 wrote:i think i retract the townlean i had on creature earlier
Curious

I intended to retract the townlead I had on you even before I read this
In post 466, Creature wrote:
In post 455, Creature wrote:Irre, Nauci, Shoshin, Varsoon, Xtoxm...
Woops, I forgot you

Irre, Nauci, Shoshin, Varsoon, Xtoxm, the worst...
In post 469, Creature wrote:
In post 444, Shoshin wrote:I've got Irrelephant, the worst, Nauci,
Nancy, Skitter, and Mitillos as town.
???
In post 474, Creature wrote:
In post 369, Xtoxm wrote:Lol @ having 2 strong instant scum reads in a large game. Get ove4 yourself.
I remember putting Xtoxm in my townlist because of this


like can you back up how 681 is a valid take for me? his meta I shows you in Labyrinth is dead and you saw that from Heroes Wanted, I'm curious to see why you don't think he's given reads and why you think he'd scum here.
No, I didn’t see it at the time I made that post anything that couldn’t have been out of his scumrange but I see it now.
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Post Post #779 (isolation #93) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:43 am

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In post 716, Performer wrote:
In post 607, AlmostNancy wrote:Performer seemed to be OMGUSSING
A50 none of my thoughts on my wagon were omgus . I don't omgus.
:lol:

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Post Post #780 (isolation #94) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:46 am

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In post 717, Varsoon wrote:@Performer: I mean that people townread AlmostNancy for no good reason.
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Post Post #781 (isolation #95) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:53 am

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In post 722, Irrelephant11 wrote:I would like to remove AlmostNancy from the townblock unless/until Skitter townreads Almost50 again.
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Post Post #782 (isolation #96) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:56 am

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In post 725, Creature wrote:
In post 706, Krazy wrote:Shoshin(3) ~ Mewtaph(1), Xtoxm(9), Performer(18)
Why is this a wagon?
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Post Post #783 (isolation #97) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:03 pm

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In post 738, the worst wrote:A50 is >>>>more readable than Nancy and I'm not even sure I hard townread him yet
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Post Post #784 (isolation #98) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:04 pm

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In post 739, Shoshin wrote:What's the difference between town/scum Nancy? I haven't seen her scum games.
I'm damn sure the colour of the font in her PM, among other things.
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Post Post #786 (isolation #99) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:09 pm

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In post 753, skitter30 wrote:i'm a little nervous about the lack of resistance to this and the almostnancy and performer votes
It wouldn't be you if you didn't! :facepalm:

Skitter, when was the last time you
didn't
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Post Post #788 (isolation #100) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:13 pm

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I'm with Shoshin, but for a totally different reason. We should've kept Xtoxm @L-1 for 2 reasons:

1- See who tried to defuse the wagon

and more importantly

2- Get a claim

Now the whole wagon (and time it took to build) is rendered worthless and we're starting the day all over again.
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Post Post #789 (isolation #101) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:13 pm

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A50, btw...
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Post Post #791 (isolation #102) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:16 pm

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In post 763, Mitillos wrote:If Xtoxm does flip scum, the most suspicious will be skitter for rushing to jump off.
I wish it was so easy, but Town!skitter also get nervous whenever a wagon is @L-1

P-edit: Kinda think he quit that habit (and took up smoking)
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Post Post #795 (isolation #103) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:32 pm

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In post 785, skitter30 wrote:this isn't really making me townread you here either
OK.. now I don't know what to make of it. Is this a repeat of the last Diffusion of Power? Or are you scumming it up?? Oh, a third possibility is that you don't want me to get shot on N1 so you're keeping me away from the top of your TRs.

OK, 2 Town motives and 1 Scum motive = you're still a TR for me.
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Post Post #805 (isolation #104) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:46 pm

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In post 799, the worst wrote:I'm actually starting to get nervous about AlmostNancy. The same time I had this kind of lazy "eh they're probably town, I'll deal with it later" energy was when I played against them as scum.

I kinda wish I had more free time to re metadive her than I do right now. can anyone towncase the slot for me?
Let me remove all barriers and talk to you straight from the heart:

You've just applied to a large themed game in the sign-ups. Right? You know what that tells me? That you've been avoiding my games specifically. It hurts me. And now you have the nerve to also state uncertainty about my alignment when I've obv!towned even more than I should have? I think I'm gonna have roasted duck for dinner tomorrow.
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Post Post #813 (isolation #105) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:51 pm

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In post 802, skitter30 wrote:@tw: the way a50 is playing rn is actually reminding me of jungle republic

idk if that's because he isn't really into it yet or if he's using memes to appear active
I am actually letting Nancy play the leading role here and confining myself to culinary services and strategic support. She deserves to actually PLAY the game while feeling a bit more secure than she does on her own, don't you think?

Once I've got her to beat that insecurity I will play as an equal.
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Post Post #818 (isolation #106) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:57 pm

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In post 806, Xtoxm wrote:I dont feel like town-a50 can have a legit scum read on me here so thats a little sus

But what does my opinion matter
What have you really done for me to have a serious read on you? It's PoE and you're one of 5 slots I could lynch today, and you do have a wagon you. and one that had both skitter & Shoshin joining before we did, so I told Nancy to sheep them. Otherwise our vote would have still been idle because Nancy is very conservative with her D1 votes by nature.
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Post Post #820 (isolation #107) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:59 pm

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@skitter: Are you telling me you don't KNOW Nancy hates D1 and almost never posts anything that has meat on it? Her play starts on D2. Even I know that and I think I only played her once.
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Post Post #822 (isolation #108) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:04 pm

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In post 811, Xtoxm wrote:Bc he's seen my scum game
That was long ago though, so all I remember is that you were good scum, but I don't recall the details.

Like, remind me if you were in that game modded by pisskop when he made a mistake and flipped RC when I was BGing him? It had 2 scum teams of 2 each. I seem to recall you were scum with Ranger, but I'm not positive it was you.

I know we played in a micro with FA and Jeanne once and you were scum in that one too.
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Post Post #825 (isolation #109) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:09 pm

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@tw: Oh, ok! :lol: I didn't notice you were the co-mod. :oops:

Well, at least go check my ongoing game proceedings and read the flips then PM me what you think of the flavour and how the Role PMs look this time around ;)
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Post Post #827 (isolation #110) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:16 pm

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In post 816, the worst wrote:I'd almost feel disrespectful to the quality of your scumgame (remember 09:12 :facepalm:) if I didn't voice this when I felt it.
In a way you might be right now, because you're saying scum!me is avoiding the thread and hiding behind memes rather than taking the podium and playing everyone like dolls. :twisted:
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Post Post #828 (isolation #111) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:17 pm

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@tw: Let me rephrase that. Do you really think I'd be afraid to play and actually take charge of the game if I was scum?
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Post Post #829 (isolation #112) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:19 pm

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In post 817, skitter30 wrote:it does make it harder for me to sort you tho
that's would be on you, because you had already stated a hard TR on me when I first posted (after a few posts) and it should have been done with. You doing you (second guessing your read on me) when we're still on the same day and nothing has really changed is what you need to address.
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Post Post #833 (isolation #113) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:22 pm

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In post 821, skitter30 wrote:i know literally nothing about her or how she plays; i've never played with her
Ask around. Or even go check her play in Overkill 1 (she was a SK though, but the slot started with Toranaga and she then hopped in to hydra with him, then he left and she called on Mathblade for assistance. It doesn't really matter since she dreads D1 as either alignment and needs FLIPS to work with)
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Post Post #842 (isolation #114) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:32 pm

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In post 839, Krazy wrote:As a courtesy do please try to keep hydra slips to a minimum
Whoops sorry. :oops:
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Post Post #843 (isolation #115) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:33 pm

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In post 739, Shoshin wrote:What's the difference between town/scum Nancy? I haven't seen her scum games.
If Ank were in this game, she’d tell you. There are definite tells but she’s one of the few players who can read them.

Feel free to ISO me in Heroes Wanted, Overkill 1 and Halloween Dance. The last one is probably not helpful though.
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Post Post #846 (isolation #116) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:35 pm

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In post 844, Almost50 wrote:
In post 830, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 717, Varsoon wrote:
In post 714, Shoshin wrote:
In post 705, Not_Mafia wrote:Oh this started, who’s scum?
Not_Mafia is town.
Yeah this is the kind of play that's so drastically different than mine that I scumread it by default.

@Performer: I mean that people townread AlmostNancy for no good reason.
Varsoon, you’re worrying me a little here. The last time you thought I might be scum was in BoD where you wound up being scum. I hope I’m not reading you wrong again here?
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In post 722, Irrelephant11 wrote:
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VOTE: Xtoxm’s reaction to pressure being *disappearing* isn’t a good look
:(

Why?
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In post 717, Varsoon wrote:@Performer: I mean that people townread AlmostNancy for no good reason.
I'm actually finding myself agreeing with this spicy take a little. I actually townread her as well but her scumgame is formidable and every time someone says she's hard town/locktown I already I stop breathing for a second.

A50 is >>>>more readable than Nancy and I'm not even sure I hard townread him yet
Really? You think I’m “unreadable”? I’m not quite sure how I feel about this. OOH, it means you think I’m a good player, OTO, you aren’t reading me correctly yet. :/

Yes, I agree, I do play well as scum but fwiw, I promise you I am not scum here.
Picking up for Nancy :]
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Post Post #847 (isolation #117) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:35 pm

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In post 741, the worst wrote:
In post 739, Shoshin wrote:What's the difference between town/scum Nancy? I haven't seen her scum games.
I'm literally not sure. She posts HEAPS and has the same kind of off beat solving as scum, she had me 100% duped in Heroes Wanted.

we only caught her because Sakura Hana YOLO suicide-dayvigged her
What “solving” if any, did I do in that game? :lol:
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Post Post #848 (isolation #118) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:37 pm

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@Xtoxm: When someone's @L-1 I expect to get a CLAIM from them. Otherwise there has been absolutely no point to push them that far to begin with. I didn't want to lynch you necessarily, but I did want to get a claim to evaluate and possibly reevaluate on other slots that joined the wagon too.
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Post Post #849 (isolation #119) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:38 pm

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In post 743, skitter30 wrote:
In post 714, Shoshin wrote:
In post 705, Not_Mafia wrote:Oh this started, who’s scum?
Not_Mafia is town.
kinda think it's too early to gague this imo

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In post 664, skitter30 wrote:
In post 662, the worst wrote:*skitter -- you're here because while I am getting better at reading you, your scumrange is super super broad and I think we mutually sort better via real time interactions later in the game
like i said, tfw people think you have a decent scumgame

but fair enough, fair enough
Link? I’ve only ISO’d him in one scum game and he was dreadful in it. But I think his play here reads townie regardless.

So, probably more informative for future games and I’m genuinely curious to see what decent scum!TW plays like.
i was talking about how he thinks *i* have a good scumgame; i wasn't talking about his scumgame (which i think is pretty good too, but was incidintally not what the conversation was about)

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Kinda want to vote him just to further the me+Nauci paranoia he’s got going

Ftr I’m only accessing MS from mobile indefinitely so expect fewer long posts and more broken quotes
this doesn't feel like something scum would say

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In post 722, Irrelephant11 wrote:I would like to remove AlmostNancy from the townblock unless/until Skitter townreads Almost50 again. Still a townlean though.
he needs to post more

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In post 742, Performer wrote:@shos xtox has been forgettable, so have others, so I've had to reread his iso. Can go with an xtox vote.
VOTE: xtoxm
uh this is l-1 btw in case anyone is wondering

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In post 742, Performer wrote:I want to say I disagree with all of these
ok, how do you describe your towngame?
I’m trying my best. I’m in a lot of games rn.
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Post Post #851 (isolation #120) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:43 pm

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In post 782, AlmostNancy wrote:
In post 725, Creature wrote:
In post 706, Krazy wrote:Shoshin(3) ~ Mewtaph(1), Xtoxm(9), Performer(18)
Why is this a wagon?
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Okay, Creature and NM are probably town here. I’m feeling a lot better about Creature now and I think this is NM’s towngame. What do you think, @Creature? About NM, I mean, obviously.
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Post Post #852 (isolation #121) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:49 pm

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In post 785, skitter30 wrote:
In post 756, Shoshin wrote:Note: the fact that Not_Mafia didn't hammer means he's either town (as I said) or partnered with Xtom (if Xtom flips scum).
it means he didn't notice that there was an oppurtunity to hammer
i don't think it has anything to do with his alignment

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In post 763, Mitillos wrote:If Xtoxm does flip scum, the most suspicious will be skitter for rushing to jump off.
And Varsoon is right. Scum don't just lolhammer on D1 after making only a handful of posts, that would be suicide.
a) not_mafia is in this game adn i'm not ready for the day to end
(also not_mafia lolhammers as either alignment. it isnt' ai and is incredibly frustrating)

b) large wagons with little resistance/no cw make me wary

(also i like to imagine that i'm decent enough as scum that if i were partnered with scum!xtoxm i wouldn't make votes/unvotes that i know would incriminate me after he flips given that scum!me has a longer life expectency than him here almost always)

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I think the fact that Saudade hasn't replaced out points to him being scum.
But maybe you have more experience with him that says otherwise? You can also stop denigrating your play in every post.
why?

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In post 722, Irrelephant11 wrote:I would like to remove AlmostNancy from the townblock unless/until Skitter townreads Almost50 again.
Spoiler:
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this isn't really making me townread you here either
In post 799, the worst wrote:I'm actually starting to get nervous about AlmostNancy. The same time I had this kind of lazy "eh they're probably town, I'll deal with it later" energy was when I played against them as scum.

I kinda wish I had more free time to re metadive her than I do right now. can anyone towncase the slot for me?
Can you show me where in Heroes, you think I did any actual solving? I don’t mean on D1 but in the entire freaking game?
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Post Post #853 (isolation #122) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:51 pm

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In post 803, the worst wrote:Yeah I'm starting to feel like A50 is leaning on Nancy's more focused contributions to make the slot look active and just sticking around memeing because he likes our company/doesnt want to be seen as lurking if that makes sense
What? :facepalm:
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Post Post #854 (isolation #123) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:52 pm

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In post 804, the worst wrote:and Nancy is Good Scum
or at the very least, Capable of Posting A Lot Scum

I miss Ankamius rn :cry:
I do too and I wish she were in this game.
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Post Post #855 (isolation #124) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:56 pm

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In post 805, AlmostNancy wrote:
In post 799, the worst wrote:I'm actually starting to get nervous about AlmostNancy. The same time I had this kind of lazy "eh they're probably town, I'll deal with it later" energy was when I played against them as scum.

I kinda wish I had more free time to re metadive her than I do right now. can anyone towncase the slot for me?
Let me remove all barriers and talk to you straight from the heart:

You've just applied to a large themed game in the sign-ups. Right? You know what that tells me? That you've been avoiding my games specifically. It hurts me. And now you have the nerve to also state uncertainty about my alignment when I've obv!towned even more than I should have? I think I'm gonna have roasted duck for dinner tomorrow.
TW hasn’t played with me as town, since we hydra’d together in CoH. I think he’s fixated on Heroes because it’s the last game we played separately. Oh and then there’s Overkill 1, where I was SK. So, he hasn’t played in any games since where I’ve been town.
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Post Post #856 (isolation #125) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:57 pm

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In post 806, Xtoxm wrote:I dont feel like town-a50 can have a legit scum read on me here so thats a little sus

But what does my opinion matter
Who the hell has a legit scum read on ANYONE on D1?
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Post Post #857 (isolation #126) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:59 pm

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In post 807, skitter30 wrote:
In post 803, the worst wrote:Yeah I'm starting to feel like A50 is leaning on Nancy's more focused contributions to make the slot look active and just sticking around memeing because he likes our company/doesnt want to be seen as lurking if that makes sense
yeah this is kinda exactly what i'm feeling like rn
like he's using the memes to act like he's doing something when he isn't really (that's what he did the entire first day of jungle republic)

he isn't someone i really want to be wrong on tho

and nancy's contribution is also feeling very fluffy ('i like this playerlist!' and 'i remember being wrong on the worst in that game'); very little of it is solve-y
Yeah, I am not being uberserious but that is never AI for me. And I do like this playerlist. That makes me scum how exactly? :lol:
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Post Post #858 (isolation #127) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:00 pm

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In post 811, Xtoxm wrote:Bc he's seen my scum game
I know nothing of your meta. Can you post a link to a town and scumgame of yours?
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Post Post #859 (isolation #128) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:03 pm

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In post 818, AlmostNancy wrote:
In post 806, Xtoxm wrote:I dont feel like town-a50 can have a legit scum read on me here so thats a little sus

But what does my opinion matter
What have you really done for me to have a serious read on you? It's PoE and you're one of 5 slots I could lynch today, and you do have a wagon you. and one that had both skitter & Shoshin joining before we did, so I told Nancy to sheep them. Otherwise our vote would have still been idle because Nancy is very conservative with her D1 votes by nature.
You thought I was “shy” but the truth is I forgot how to spell X’s name but the conservative thing is definitely on point. I get grief for that in every game I’m in.
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Post Post #861 (isolation #129) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:06 pm

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In post 820, AlmostNancy wrote:@skitter: Are you telling me you don't KNOW Nancy hates D1 and almost never posts anything that has meat on it? Her play starts on D2. Even I know that and I think I only played her once.
RVS especially, every since I almost got maj’d in under 2 hours in Necromancer, I try to avoid it like the plague.
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Post Post #862 (isolation #130) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:07 pm

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In post 823, skitter30 wrote:and no, i didn't know that's how she treats day1, can she post examples?
Can’t you just ISO me?
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Post Post #863 (isolation #131) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:10 pm

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In post 688, Xtoxm wrote:
In post 684, Creature wrote:
In post 633, the worst wrote:if it's because he's losing
It's D1

Anything can happen
Yeah he nailed me and my entire scumtean in rvs and thats why i got so upset


Its like you're the only one with a brain in this game

Altho I think varsoons just doing his own weird shenanigans and doesnt actually believe in this so I'll let him off
Interesting. Maybe, good catch Skitter?

Why have you been so upset in this game?
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Post Post #865 (isolation #132) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:13 pm

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In post 700, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 698, Shoshin wrote:
In post 692, Keyser Söze wrote:This feels good

VOTE: Nauci
What're your thoughts on Xtom & Performer?
Not Xtom atm, I haven’t engaged him or studied their posts yet.

I did start looking at Performer earlier (was looking at my previous games with Performer (3 years ago :shifty:) where I incorrectly read him as scum:

- town-Performer’s tone is just scummy (he’s never gonna be a mass town read player)
- ‘opportunistic’ jumping on wagons (here on the early wagons on Mitillos and Shoshin)
- is not methodical (he asks questions, but does he follow up with chasing answers, and do they help him?)
- lacks charisma (his drive and ‘energy’ is low this game)


Thoughts? Does he look ‘bad’ as town or scum?

I feel a one on one in real time with Performer would help me read him better too.
I only have meta on Creature, TW, NM, Varsoon and Shoshin. Sorry, I can’t be more help with that.
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Post Post #867 (isolation #133) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:19 pm

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In post 710, Performer wrote:
In post 595, Varsoon wrote: I can't wait for the game when scum-Shoshin snows you all for eating out of her hands like a bunch of orphans who can't earn a damn thing yourselves.
I find this hilariously and disturbingly ironic.
In post 590, Nauci wrote:If you're talking about the game I modded for that first one, you're confusing Sashaddin with Shoshin. Hilarious cluster of a game though.
That game tragically met its end in wildfires in CA
In post 581, Saudade wrote:think ill sheep the worst based off 3 posts I've read and assume hes town for the rest of the day
But why is he town?
Nobody else?
Who's scum?
Apparently, he has an awesome scumgame I’ve never seen but everything I’ve seen up to this point, reads town!TW to me. Town questions you, scum confibiases you. His thought process seems very townie here.
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Post Post #869 (isolation #134) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:28 pm

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In post 753, skitter30 wrote:
In post 750, Krazy wrote:Xtoxm(7) ~ skitter30(41), Shoshin(86), Varsoon(72), AlmostNancy(93), the worst(120), Irrelephant11(57), Performer(25)
i townread shoshin

kinda varsoon

kinda almostnancy but i'm beginning to become paranoid; the nancy head isn't really solving although she's posting *a lot*, and a50 isn't either and that's making me a little nervous

the worst is probably town, as is irrelephant

i don't exactly scumread performer so much as i odn't really see a reason to townread him

i'm a little nervous about the lack of resistance to this and the almostnancy and performer votes

UNVOTE:

for now i think
I challenge you to find a game of mine, where I do anything really useful on D1 and if you do, it’s only because I got lucky or scum was open wolfing. See TPFKAP in Labrynth.
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Post Post #872 (isolation #135) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:37 pm

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In post 831, Varsoon wrote:So if I ever doubt you as lock-town, it makes me scum?
I don't understand, Nancy.
That isn’t at all what I’m saying. All I’m saying is the last time this happened, you were scum, so do you honestly blame me for wondering about that?

I have enough meta on certain players like the worst, to not be concerned about that but I think this position is reasonable for me to wonder about you here. Not saying you’re scum, only that it concerned because of BoR. That’s it.
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Post Post #873 (isolation #136) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:38 pm

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In post 833, AlmostNancy wrote:
In post 821, skitter30 wrote:i know literally nothing about her or how she plays; i've never played with her
Ask around. Or even go check her play in Overkill 1 (she was a SK though, but the slot started with Toranaga and she then hopped in to hydra with him, then he left and she called on Mathblade for assistance. It doesn't really matter since she dreads D1 as either alignment and needs FLIPS to work with)
Asking for assistance was NAI for me. I happen to prefer hydraing to playing alone.
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Post Post #875 (isolation #137) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:51 pm

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In post 129, AlmostNancy wrote:Hello, everyone.. it's me.. A50 :]

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I'm in the process of catching up, but I thought I'd let you know we probably landed the strongest TPR in the game. It's as strong as they come. Scum should be afraid of us. VERY afraid of us.

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Yes, I can unequivocally state that we are bulletproof strongwilled triple doc tracker/watcher comulsive vig. Scum should just concede rn.

:lol:

But yes scum should be afraid of us, due to play because we will catch them.
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Post Post #877 (isolation #138) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:59 pm

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In post 841, Irrelephant11 wrote:Please remain in-hydra for ISOing purposes
A large part of my townread on you came from sheeping Skitter, who can read Almost50 very well
It wasn’t intentional.
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Post Post #878 (isolation #139) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 3:01 pm

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In post 846, AlmostNancy wrote:
In post 844, Almost50 wrote:
In post 830, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 717, Varsoon wrote:
In post 714, Shoshin wrote:
In post 705, Not_Mafia wrote:Oh this started, who’s scum?
Not_Mafia is town.
Yeah this is the kind of play that's so drastically different than mine that I scumread it by default.

@Performer: I mean that people townread AlmostNancy for no good reason.
Varsoon, you’re worrying me a little here. The last time you thought I might be scum was in BoD where you wound up being scum. I hope I’m not reading you wrong again here?
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In post 722, Irrelephant11 wrote:
I would like to remove AlmostNancy from the townblock
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VOTE: Xtoxm’s reaction to pressure being *disappearing* isn’t a good look
:(

Why?
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In post 717, Varsoon wrote:@Performer: I mean that people townread AlmostNancy for no good reason.
I'm actually finding myself agreeing with this spicy take a little. I actually townread her as well but her scumgame is formidable and every time someone says she's hard town/locktown I already I stop breathing for a second.

A50 is >>>>more readable than Nancy and I'm not even sure I hard townread him yet
Really? You think I’m “unreadable”? I’m not quite sure how I feel about this. OOH, it means you think I’m a good player, OTO, you aren’t reading me correctly yet. :/

Yes, I agree, I do play well as scum but fwiw, I promise you I am not scum here.
Picking up for Nancy :]
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What’s so funny?

Oh nm, I get it. :lol:
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Post Post #879 (isolation #140) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 3:04 pm

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In post 850, skitter30 wrote:
In post 843, AlmostNancy wrote:
In post 739, Shoshin wrote:What's the difference between town/scum Nancy? I haven't seen her scum games.
If Ank were in this game, she’d tell you. There are definite tells but she’s one of the few players who can read them.

Feel free to ISO me in Heroes Wanted, Overkill 1 and Halloween Dance. The last one is probably not helpful though.
ok in the first game you have like 1300 posts, in the second you play across three accounts, and the third you only have forty posts and seemed to have repped in after day1 iso'ing you to find out how scum!you feels about playing day1 is kinda difficult

i did ctrl+f for things like 'day', 'flip', 'nervous', 'day1' to see if you ever talked about being nervous playing day1 as scum but didn't turn up anything useful, but tbf i got kinda bored of the 1300 page iso and trying to track who was posting when in overkill1 and didn't peruse it *that* deeply

i will try to check the scum pts tho
Heroes is the best read of the 3, just sayin.
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Post Post #880 (isolation #141) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 3:08 pm

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In post 864, Xtoxm wrote:
In post 858, AlmostNancy wrote:
In post 811, Xtoxm wrote:Bc he's seen my scum game
I know nothing of your meta. Can you post a link to a town and scumgame of yours?
Sure. Any specific scenario you're looking for or just want me to pick 2 at random?
I guess, whatever you think is most helpful.
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Post Post #886 (isolation #142) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:26 pm

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In post 874, Xtoxm wrote:Well as you didn't specify I'll go for victories where I survived endgame. As those are more memorable. Here's a town one:
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Thanks. The only real difference I could pinpoint between them, is that as town, you tend to ask a lot of questions and as scum, you make a lot more conclusions.
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Post Post #888 (isolation #143) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:49 pm

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In post 887, Nauci wrote:I think I believe Irrelephant's claim

As scum he'd have been hard pressed to claim early because his instinct would be to keep all options open as long as possible, and probably get some idea of the claim space before doing anything. Townrelephant would definitely worry about tpr checking him
Fifteen players square off in a game with flavor based on the Starcraft universe.
There will be a mafia faction, they will have daytalk.
There may be at least one third party role
All anti-town players will have full fake PMs including flavor
10 day day 1, 8 day dayphases after that, 2 day nights (deadlines will be extended during holidays)
This is not a bastard game. No cults, no mid-game alignment changes
Hydras can have a max of two heads
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Do you think there’s a flavour cop in this setup?
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Post Post #907 (isolation #144) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 1:58 am

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In post 906, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 895, the worst wrote:
In post 847, AlmostNancy wrote:
In post 741, the worst wrote:
In post 739, Shoshin wrote:What's the difference between town/scum Nancy? I haven't seen her scum games.
I'm literally not sure. She posts HEAPS and has the same kind of off beat solving as scum, she had me 100% duped in Heroes Wanted.

we only caught her because Sakura Hana YOLO suicide-dayvigged her
What “solving” if any, did I do in that game? :lol:
What solving did anyone do in that game? I read like 40% of it but everything I saw up until the day Sakura was turned to stone, you were totally in sync with the townblock and seemed to be solving pretty much in line with the way you solve as town :(

do you think I'm misremembering? gimme something to look for in your Heroes Wanted iso which is a point of contrast from your towngame? I will not re-read HW but I'm happy to do some homework
Look harder, what REAL solving did I do, outside of mainly mechanical speculation? Did you ever really see me trying to seriously sort anyone like I did for example, in Labrynth or CoH? Did I ever try really hard to get deep nuanced reads on anyone? If you had been paying attention, you would already know the answer to that. Not criticizing or anything, you wouldn’t have thought to look for that at the time. Ank did and no, she wasn’t getting her read on me from any “astral plane” :lol: , she just instinctively knew what to look for. The main reason, some people think I’m “unreadable”, is because I never fake my emotions and I derp as either alignment, so you can’t read me based on that. As town, I go to bat for my hard townreads. As scum, I really only go to bat for any town slot, that I think will futher my game. Otherwise, I don’t care.
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Post Post #908 (isolation #145) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 1:59 am

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Sorry mod, please don’t modkill me. :cry:
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Post Post #909 (isolation #146) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:12 am

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In post 900, Creature wrote:
In post 899, the worst wrote:Creature how are you feeling about Nancy?
Love
In post 901, the worst wrote:Yeah good point.. we all love her
how about her alignment? :lol:
He crossed it out, though. A50 wasn’t lying to you about my D1 play. Like you, he is basing this on what he’s seen of my play. You probably don’t remember but I think I waited until 10 days to post anything meaningful in Labrynth. And other then Necromancer, what games of mine, have you seen me participate in RVS? Games heavy on mechanics or alternatve setups don’t count. I don’t avoid RVS in those. The fact is if you can’t see that I’m town here, there’s really not much more I can say or do to convince you, is there? I’m not going to apologize for being good as scum, that doesn’t change the fact that I’m still town here.
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Post Post #910 (isolation #147) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:21 am

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In post 899, the worst wrote:The A50/Nancy posts a couple of pages ago really don't resonate with me at all. :S

Creature how are you feeling about Nancy?
I adore you but I’m not going to repeatedly continue to bang my head against a brick wall, trying to convince anyone. I think it should be obvious to you what my alignment is but for some reason it’s not and I don’t even understand why but it’s becoming somewhat disheartening. :/
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Post Post #911 (isolation #148) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:26 am

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In post 868, skitter30 wrote:
In post 857, AlmostNancy wrote:
In post 807, skitter30 wrote:
In post 803, the worst wrote:Yeah I'm starting to feel like A50 is leaning on Nancy's more focused contributions to make the slot look active and just sticking around memeing because he likes our company/doesnt want to be seen as lurking if that makes sense
yeah this is kinda exactly what i'm feeling like rn
like he's using the memes to act like he's doing something when he isn't really (that's what he did the entire first day of jungle republic)

he isn't someone i really want to be wrong on tho

and nancy's contribution is also feeling very fluffy ('i like this playerlist!' and 'i remember being wrong on the worst in that game'); very little of it is solve-y
Yeah, I am not being uberserious but that is never AI for me. And I do like this playerlist. That makes me scum how exactly? :lol:
Because there's a paucity of townposts accompanying the memeposts. And i didnt call you scum for it, but rather said i wasnt townreading you for it, which is not at all the same thing
I asked A50 why he is being so memey and he said, he plays differently every game, so he can’t be read based on meta. I hope that doesn’t get us mslynched at some point. :(
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Post Post #912 (isolation #149) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:36 am

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In post 896, the worst wrote:
In post 868, skitter30 wrote:Because there's a paucity of townposts accompanying the memeposts. And i didnt call you scum for it, but rather said i wasnt townreading you for it, which is not at all the same thing
This is probably me atm. looking at both A50's and Nancy's reactions to being scumread I actually think they both vibe town but I also don't think I'm going to get this read right and confident on day one this time
In post 895, the worst wrote:
In post 847, AlmostNancy wrote:
In post 741, the worst wrote:
In post 739, Shoshin wrote:What's the difference between town/scum Nancy? I haven't seen her scum games.
I'm literally not sure. She posts HEAPS and has the same kind of off beat solving as scum, she had me 100% duped in Heroes Wanted.

we only caught her because Sakura Hana YOLO suicide-dayvigged her
What “solving” if any, did I do in that game? :lol:
What solving did anyone do in that game? I read like 40% of it but everything I saw up until the day Sakura was turned to stone, you were totally in sync with the townblock and seemed to be solving pretty much in line with the way you solve as town :(

do you think I'm misremembering? gimme something to look for in your Heroes Wanted iso which is a point of contrast from your towngame? I will not re-read HW but I'm happy to do some homework
Yes, you probably aren’t going to figure it out on D1. I can’t give you specific posts - only tell you what to look for, or if your pressed for time reread why Ank was scumreadong me. HINT: She said she didn’t think I was really trying to sort her.
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Post Post #961 (isolation #150) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 1:08 pm

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In post 903, Nauci wrote:Also if he is town I hope scum don't have a shot of bp and murder him anyway because I'd be a sad
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Post Post #964 (isolation #151) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 1:16 pm

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In post 911, AlmostNancy wrote:I asked A50 why he is being so memey and he said, he plays differently every game, so he can’t be read based on meta. I hope that doesn’t get us mslynched at some point.
@Nancy: Why do you care if we get mislynched here? It's their loss, not ours. We have this UTTERLY STRONG ROLE that guarantees the Town to win the game eventually. Remember?
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Post Post #967 (isolation #152) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 1:21 pm

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In post 913, Irrelephant11 wrote:I would like Nancy to stop towncasing herself now (if A50 is also doing that I would like that to stop as well)
Please and thank you <3

That's exactly the issue I intend to address and cure in her play. Nancy & hebi are 2 players that get nervous seeing 2-3 players FoSing them even in large setups, which is weird. I am in the process of convincing her to ignore any suspicion or even voting thrown our way unless we get to say L-3/L-2, THEN we can start worrying.
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Post Post #970 (isolation #153) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:01 pm

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In post 969, Almost50 wrote:
In post 935, the worst wrote:I can't sleep and I'm thinking about the a50/nancy hydra too much. I actually feel like scum!A50 is quite a lot less likely to reach out to skitter there than town!A50 is (especially considering he's not like INTO this game as such)

this feels kinda reach and abstract but I guess if they are scum it's probably with a pretty weak team? like otherwise what is the point of all the exposure of reaching out this early?

pedit: SAUSAGE NO
do you need the essence of bravery to go on???
Now you're on to something. My first scum p has just requested replacement. Can you help me bus him, please?
I sense this is going to be a nightmare. It took me THREE GAMES to get used to not hydra slip with Chara, and I AM USING DIFFERENT BROWSERS TOO! :facepalm:
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Post Post #971 (isolation #154) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:04 pm

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In post 945, skitter30 wrote:@a50 how do you read me rn?
In English! Are posting in any other language(s)??

OH, you mean ... my bad. I am logged into the Internet via a router, and I'm using my PC to access MS and come to this thread to read you. Is that what you meant?
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Post Post #977 (isolation #155) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:02 pm

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In post 972, skitter30 wrote:
In post 971, AlmostNancy wrote:
In post 945, skitter30 wrote:@a50 how do you read me rn?
In English! Are posting in any other language(s)??

OH, you mean ... my bad. I am logged into the Internet via a router, and I'm using my PC to access MS and come to this thread to read you. Is that what you meant?
Can you give me a straight answer please?
No. Nancy can feel free to express her own reads in her own words, of course, but -in all honesty- I'm enjoying being suspected by you (and tw) so much I don't want it to go away. :lol:
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Post Post #980 (isolation #156) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:03 pm

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In post 976, Krazy wrote:
MOD REMINDERSYou are special, each and every one of you :)
This is the mod telling us there are no 2 identical roles in this game :P
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Post Post #982 (isolation #157) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:07 pm

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In post 916, Mewtaph wrote:
In post 50, Nauci wrote:Quickly skimmed

Survey says...

Paranoid gut off feelings here VOTE: skitter30

Here we go again ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
@Nauci: Can you talk about what you saw here a bit more? What was paranoia pinging you about skitter and where are you on them since then?

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In post 276, Xtoxm wrote:VOTE: shosin

I was already getting scum vibes from calling a bunch of different people town for no reason and campaigning for a policy lynch is just a dick move
@Xtoxm: Were/are there any townreads from Shoshin that you disagreed with specifically?

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In post 610, AlmostNancy wrote:VOTE: Xtoxm

Strikes me a possibly disgruntled scum, like Shoshin said, pissed at the townblock.
@AlmostNancy: Why do you think Xtoxm has come off as disgruntled scum? How do you think he has been pissed towards the townblock?

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Willing to thought dump on mostly everyone that's been active so far at this point, some more extensively than others - so feel free to ask.
I’m less sure now but angry players - seemingly w/o cause - tend to be more likely scum than town.
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Post Post #984 (isolation #158) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:12 pm

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In post 926, the worst wrote:
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Look harder, what REAL solving did I do, outside of mainly mechanical speculation? Did you ever really see me trying to seriously sort anyone like I did for example, in Labrynth or CoH? Did I ever try really hard to get deep nuanced reads on anyone? If you had been paying attention, you would already know the answer to that. Not criticizing or anything, you wouldn’t have thought to look for that at the time. Ank did and no, she wasn’t getting her read on me from any “astral plane” :lol: , she just instinctively knew what to look for. The main reason, some people think I’m “unreadable”, is because I never fake my emotions and I derp as either alignment, so you can’t read me based on that. As town, I go to bat for my hard townreads. As scum, I really only go to bat for any town slot, that I think will futher my game. Otherwise, I don’t care.
I think this is quite a lot closer to what I was looking for, thank.s it's 3am here but when I'm awake jll try and act on thjs
Oh and you should have known A50 wasn’t lying because if you recall, I wanted you to get us obvtown read in CoH, before I started posting, because of Heroes. Ironically, people were wrongly scumreading you and I reversed it. :lol:
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Post Post #986 (isolation #159) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:15 pm

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In post 930, Performer wrote:
In post 22, Creature wrote:I'm survivor, don't kill me
In post 687, Creature wrote:VOTE: Performer

I like this wagon
In post 712, Creature wrote:Okay, Performer is really a good wagon choice
In post 726, Creature wrote:Also who was saying the scumteam was teacher/Xtorm/Performer?
In post 728, Creature wrote:Still leaning scum on teacher and Performer
In post 729, Creature wrote:still, I don't think we have an entire scumteam of lurkers, so likely I have to look on players like AlmostNancy and Nauci
In post 773, Creature wrote:
In post 742, Performer wrote:@shos xtox has been forgettable, so have others, so I've had to reread his iso. Can go with an xtox vote.
VOTE: xtoxm
Okay, this vote is terrible
I'm seriously starting to think creat is third party or scum. This naked tunneling just screams of agenda. Speaking of screams, Halloween 2018 was a great movie. Must watch for those who enjoy themes of rising against oppression, fighting crime, a good mystery, physical security, fighting for what you value like family.

Will be catching up on more posts later, as the pace of this game is warp speed .

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and putting shos from sr to null - both based on the behaviors on the xtox wagon.
Huh? Come again? Us or Nauci - re: the bolded.
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Post Post #987 (isolation #160) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:22 pm

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In post 903, Nauci wrote:Also if he is town I hope scum don't have a shot of bp and murder him anyway because I'd be a sad
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Post Post #989 (isolation #161) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:26 pm

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In post 964, AlmostNancy wrote:
In post 911, AlmostNancy wrote:I asked A50 why he is being so memey and he said, he plays differently every game, so he can’t be read based on meta. I hope that doesn’t get us mslynched at some point.
@Nancy: Why do you care if we get mislynched here? It's their loss, not ours. We have this UTTERLY STRONG ROLE that guarantees the Town to win the game eventually. Remember?
???

We can only help town, if you know - we’re ALIVE.

I don’t like to ever get mislynched, unless it saves me from having to replace out, which I don’t want to do here. Why would I ever want to get mislynched otherwise?
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Post Post #990 (isolation #162) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:31 pm

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In post 967, AlmostNancy wrote:
In post 913, Irrelephant11 wrote:I would like Nancy to stop towncasing herself now (if A50 is also doing that I would like that to stop as well)
Please and thank you <3

That's exactly the issue I intend to address and cure in her play. Nancy & hebi are 2 players that get nervous seeing 2-3 players FoSing them even in large setups, which is weird. I am in the process of convincing her to ignore any suspicion or even voting thrown our way unless we get to say L-3/L-2, THEN we can start worrying.
It’s not about being “nervous”, it’s about being wrongly scumread. I don’t deal with that too well.
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Post Post #991 (isolation #163) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:32 pm

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COOL!

VOTE: Saudade

@Nancy: Told you tw will take the bait. :P And we're probably going to mislynch the Saudade slot, and -even better- when he flips Town tw's gonna TR our slot for it too. :twisted: GOD, I LLLLOVE THIS GAME! :lol:
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Post Post #993 (isolation #164) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:33 pm

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In post 988, the worst wrote:
In post 986, AlmostNancy wrote:Huh? Come again? Us or Nauci - re: the bolded.
That's absolutely hilarious. I bold-faced read his post as talking about you, never even crossed my mind he'd said Nauci instead.
Nauci is my REAL hydra partner - hard claim. A50 just hacked into my account.
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Post Post #994 (isolation #165) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:36 pm

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In post 991, AlmostNancy wrote:COOL!

VOTE: Saudade

@Nancy: Told you tw will take the bait. :P And we're probably going to mislynch the Saudade slot, and -even better- when he flips Town tw's gonna TR our slot for it too. :twisted: GOD, I LLLLOVE THIS GAME! :lol:
Why are you voting for someone you think could be a mislynch? *confuzzled*
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Post Post #995 (isolation #166) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:38 pm

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In post 994, AlmostNancy wrote:
In post 991, AlmostNancy wrote:COOL!

VOTE: Saudade

@Nancy: Told you tw will take the bait. :P And we're probably going to mislynch the Saudade slot, and -even better- when he flips Town tw's gonna TR our slot for it too. :twisted: GOD, I LLLLOVE THIS GAME! :lol:
Why are you voting for someone you think could be a mislynch? *confuzzled*
I think I’m beginning to understand a bit how Katie Holmes was feeling. :/
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Post Post #996 (isolation #167) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:03 pm

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In post 992, skitter30 wrote:maybe i'll drop it for a bit and come back to sorting you later
What? I don't believe it!! It's "almost" as if you were suggesting to leave me alone on D1 and start worrying about me if I NOT the N1 NK! :lol:

But no. skitter wouldn't expect me to be shot on N1, would she? I mean she never ever witnessed it before. Right? :P
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Post Post #997 (isolation #168) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:09 pm

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In post 993, AlmostNancy wrote:Nauci is my REAL hydra partner - hard claim. A50 just hacked into my account.
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Post Post #998 (isolation #169) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:10 pm

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In post 994, AlmostNancy wrote:Why are you voting for someone you think could be a mislynch? *confuzzled*
Because I could be wrong, duh! :lol:
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Post Post #1003 (isolation #170) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:59 pm

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In post 1000, Nauci wrote:
In post 993, AlmostNancy wrote:
In post 988, the worst wrote:
In post 986, AlmostNancy wrote:Huh? Come again? Us or Nauci - re: the bolded.
That's absolutely hilarious. I bold-faced read his post as talking about you, never even crossed my mind he'd said Nauci instead.
Nauci is my REAL hydra partner - hard claim. A50 just hacked into my account.
I forgot the account password and asked a50 for help
We don't use passwords. We login using fingerprints, eye scan, ear scan, blood and piss samples, as well as voice recognition. Alternatively, a single $100 bill bypasses all that. :P
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Post Post #1006 (isolation #171) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:49 pm

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In post 1004, Nauci wrote:That's one committed hacking

Spoiler:
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Post Post #1007 (isolation #172) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:55 pm

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In post 1003, AlmostNancy wrote:
In post 1000, Nauci wrote:
In post 993, AlmostNancy wrote:
In post 988, the worst wrote:
In post 986, AlmostNancy wrote:Huh? Come again? Us or Nauci - re: the bolded.
That's absolutely hilarious. I bold-faced read his post as talking about you, never even crossed my mind he'd said Nauci instead.
Nauci is my REAL hydra partner - hard claim. A50 just hacked into my account.
I forgot the account password and asked a50 for help
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The jig is up, it’s time to allow Nauci back into our PT and have Krazy remove your access.
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Post Post #1048 (isolation #173) » Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:55 am

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In post 1044, Shoshin wrote:I recommend anyone who scumreads Mew take a look at his play in the recently finished Fortnight game.
I agree with you, I think he could be a mislynch. I don’t get how anyone reads Mew as scummier than Saude. What have they done that’s particularly townie? But I’m not convinced X can’t be scum either.
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Post Post #1061 (isolation #174) » Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:16 am

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In post 1060, Varsoon wrote:
In post 1058, Nauci wrote: Varsoon: why not mewtaph? Why get on Keyser now, instead of when Irrelephant and I tried to pressure there, even though nothing has really changed about the slot and he continues to say he'll engage Soon™?
I am not even sure who mewtaph is replacing
Getting on Keyser because my vote follows Shoshin's
Why get up in arms that it's now instead of like 10 hours ago?
Just get it wit it
I’m not currently scumreasing either of those slots. I think both but Mew more likely than Key, are going to result in a mislynch.
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Post Post #1062 (isolation #175) » Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:18 am

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Was it NM who replaced Saude?
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Post Post #1071 (isolation #176) » Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:42 am

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In post 1063, Xtoxm wrote:
In post 1057, Irrelephant11 wrote:
In post 1055, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1044, Shoshin wrote:I recommend anyone who scumreads Mew take a look at his play in the recently finished Fortnight game.
ok, what about that game makes you think he may be town here?
Yeah I glanced at it (admittedly not very thoroughly) before you suggested this and don’t know how it makes new town

Xtoxm still has lots of scum equity, and I agree that my reason to townread him is pretty weak
@Xtoxm what makes you think my claim is more likely to come from scum? Personal experience? Something else?
I trust in this town to return to xtoxm EOD if other lunch candidates town it up.
Town claiming pgo instantly loses all it's utility, scum will never target it. Scum claiming pgo gives itself a free pass from all night threats. If I was scum and got dealt a pgo safeclaim id be looking to claim it asap.
Right, I forgot about safeclaims.

I still wonder how they townlocked us so fast, only to unceremonious dump us from the obvtown block. Who do I consult about a refund?
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Post Post #1073 (isolation #177) » Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:46 am

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In post 1064, Irrelephant11 wrote:oh good you’re here
How do you read Nauci and Skitter?

Also that reasoning makes sense but I have remera reasons to believe I’m likely to get targeted by investigative and/or protective roles this game. I recognize that my claim does make me a lylo liability (since I can’t ever be confirmed), and it becomes mechanically necessary to lynch me before lylo

@shoshin mew’s play in that game you mentioned seems maybe intentionally poor? Town has very little incentive to town it up in that setup, since they don’t need to sort themselves. OTOH here it feels like he’s trying his hardest... and getting less done
I know this isn’t adressed to me but I still feel good about Nauci and I don’t know Skitter’s meta like A50 but their ongoing waffling on our slot is kind of giving me the heebie jeebies but A50 may see it differently. \_0_/
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Post Post #1075 (isolation #178) » Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:49 am

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In post 1069, Varsoon wrote:
In post 1063, Xtoxm wrote: Town claiming pgo instantly loses all it's utility, scum will never target it. Scum claiming pgo gives itself a free pass from all night threats. If I was scum and got dealt a pgo safeclaim id be looking to claim it asap.
Town claims it if they're a doctor or cop or some sort of strong role that doesn't want to get night killed but can't guarantee its own protection.
Here's the thing though,
Does anyone know what Irrel's history of fake-claiming is?
When does town ever claim doc, since presumably doc can’t protect itself?
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Post Post #1077 (isolation #179) » Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:51 am

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In post 1074, Shoshin wrote:Nancy, join us on Key!
Why is Key scum though?

Anyway, feeling better about Xtoxm.
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Post Post #1079 (isolation #180) » Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:52 am

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In post 1076, Shoshin wrote:
In post 1075, AlmostNancy wrote:When does town ever claim doc, since presumably doc can’t protect itself?
To out who they protected from a nightkill.
Oh, after the fact.
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Post Post #1080 (isolation #181) » Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:53 am

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In post 1078, Shoshin wrote:
In post 1077, AlmostNancy wrote:Why is Key scum though?
Because he's not town.
Lol, that doesn’t answer my question. Why is he not town?
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Post Post #1084 (isolation #182) » Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:04 am

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In post 1082, Shoshin wrote:
In post 1080, AlmostNancy wrote:Why is he not town?
He's done nothing towny. Everything he's posted feels much more careful than I'm used to from town Key, less willing to put himself out there, and none of it has any hint of towniness. He's also much less present than usual. It's a far cry from his play as town.

Do you townread him?
I dunno, I did earlier but I will trust your meta read.

@Key, your response to this?
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Post Post #1087 (isolation #183) » Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:10 am

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In post 1049, Shoshin wrote:
In post 106, Xtoxm wrote:This is hype.

So Varsoon I wonder if this finally the game where we're on the same team at like the 7th attempt?? Don't let me down man.
In post 276, Xtoxm wrote:VOTE: shosin

I was already getting scum vibes from calling a bunch of different people town for no reason and campaigning for a policy lynch is just a dick move
In post 308, Xtoxm wrote:@varsoon. I'm not downgrading skitter (I mean I don't have much in the way of reads on anyone yet). What I notice is skitters were a bit more spread out, so perhaps that's why I didn't see her doing it
In post 369, Xtoxm wrote:Lol @ having 2 strong instant scum reads in a large game. Get ove4 yourself.
In post 380, Xtoxm wrote:Yeah, because anyone claiming strong reads this early in the game is more likely to just be lying.
In post 392, Xtoxm wrote:You know if varsoon wasn't in this game I would just replace out at this point because the attitude coming from many players is totally disgusting
In post 688, Xtoxm wrote:
In post 684, Creature wrote:
In post 633, the worst wrote:if it's because he's losing
It's D1

Anything can happen
Yeah he nailed me and my entire scumtean in rvs and thats why i got so upset

Its like you're the only one with a brain in this game

Altho I think varsoons just doing his own weird shenanigans and doesnt actually believe in this so I'll let him off
What're your thoughts on Xtom?
Oh sorry, missed this. I’m feeling better about him, since he seems to be trying to solve. I’ll know better when he gives more reads.
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Post Post #1089 (isolation #184) » Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:13 am

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In post 1085, Irrelephant11 wrote:
In post 1071, AlmostNancy wrote:
In post 1063, Xtoxm wrote:
In post 1057, Irrelephant11 wrote:
In post 1055, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1044, Shoshin wrote:I recommend anyone who scumreads Mew take a look at his play in the recently finished Fortnight game.
ok, what about that game makes you think he may be town here?
Yeah I glanced at it (admittedly not very thoroughly) before you suggested this and don’t know how it makes new town

Xtoxm still has lots of scum equity, and I agree that my reason to townread him is pretty weak
@Xtoxm what makes you think my claim is more likely to come from scum? Personal experience? Something else?
I trust in this town to return to xtoxm EOD if other lunch candidates town it up.
Town claiming pgo instantly loses all it's utility, scum will never target it. Scum claiming pgo gives itself a free pass from all night threats. If I was scum and got dealt a pgo safeclaim id be looking to claim it asap.
Right, I forgot about safeclaims.

I still wonder how they townlocked us so fast, only to unceremonious dump us from the obvtown block. Who do I consult about a refund?
It was about 98% to do with skitter’s A50 townread, which I retracted after she retracted
Why would you completely retract your townread based solely on what Skitter thinks?
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Post Post #1099 (isolation #185) » Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:21 am

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In post 1088, Xtoxm wrote:Town
Creature, Varsoon
The worst

Nulltown
Nauci, Keyser, spotter

Nulls - everyone else

Nullscum
Mewtaph, NM

Scummy
Shoshin, a50, irre

There. Now you can mock me after the game for how bad they are.
Yeah, they’re pretty bad. We’re not scum and I’m pretty confident Shoshin isn’t either. The only really good read of yours, is the worst.
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Post Post #1103 (isolation #186) » Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:23 am

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In post 1092, Irrelephant11 wrote:@Nancy neither of us completely retracted our townreads. I have seen Skitter successfully read A50 with crazy accuracy off like two posts (we won’t the Coalition setup this way once) and so when she townread A50 that was enough for me; I didn’t need anything else. When she retracted the strength of the read, I moved you from town block to townlean (which is where my read on you is without depending on skitter’s meta relationship with A50).
Oh okay. I asked because I’m a bit suspicious of their continued waffling but I think A50 reads that as townie for them?
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Post Post #1107 (isolation #187) » Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:30 am

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In post 1096, Irrelephant11 wrote:In other news Skitter/Nauci and Skitter/AlmostNancy are never scumteams
Or you/Nauci, Varsoon/Shoshin either but Shoshin is always town here and maybe Varsoon as well. I’m currently tr Nauci and Shoshin meta reads you as town, so I’ll go with that for now.
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Post Post #1109 (isolation #188) » Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:33 am

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In post 1101, Xtoxm wrote:At this time only scum is in a position to comment on the quality of my reads.
No, anyone with a functioning brain is “in a position” to comment about that. If what you say, we’re actually true. there’d be no point to playing Mafia.

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Post Post #1111 (isolation #189) » Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:36 am

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In post 1104, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1101, Xtoxm wrote:At this time only scum is in a position to comment on the quality of my reads.
i don'tt hink there's more than one scum in your bottom three reads
I’m not convinced there’s any. Irrelephant11 is the only possibility out of the 3 and I see no reason to sr him at present.
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Post Post #1117 (isolation #190) » Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:43 am

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In post 1106, Xtoxm wrote:How am I meant to not scum read shoshin here. Going into this game all I see I about her are people worshipping her town game, and herself boasting about the perfection of her town game.

And then she death tunnels me.

So given the knowledge of my own alignment.

Do I respect her reputation, therefore indicating she's tunnelling me for a mislynch.

Or disregard her reputation and call her a townbeard.

Please explain how I not scum read shosin here.
Is the only reason you’re scumreading her is that? What about her other reads? It seems a bit convenient to scumlock the player who’s scumreading you.

Why not assume she could be wrong town?

You come into the game, bursting with negativity and saying about how you’re so “disgusted” with everyone and you think it’s somehow scummy for her to not obvtown read you for that?
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Post Post #1118 (isolation #191) » Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:46 am

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In post 1109, AlmostNancy wrote:
In post 1101, Xtoxm wrote:At this time only scum is in a position to comment on the quality of my reads.
No, anyone with a functioning brain is “in a position” to comment about that. If what you say, we’re actually true. there’d be no point to playing Mafia.

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Post Post #1120 (isolation #192) » Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:49 am

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In post 1119, Xtoxm wrote:
In post 46, Shoshin wrote: My record speaks for itself and it's not just Labyrinth. In my initial newbie game, I called scumteam on D1 and was named MVP. In American Presidents, I called scumteam on D2 after which I was nightkilled. Town went on to win. I played a key role in winning Supp Mafia, pushing lynches on scum from D2 to the last day phase, when we won. I lynched scum in the recent Epic game, after which scum used their sole kill in the whole game on me. I've won all my town games on this site except the one that you were in, where again I told you not to mislynch Irrelephant (you did), told town not to mislynch Reck (they did), and then got screwed by Nos trolling.

You really need to get over yourself.
This is the definition of boasting
So, you believe Shoshin’s claims are somehow unfounded and you view her as arrogant. That makes her scum, how again?
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Post Post #1126 (isolation #193) » Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:53 am

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In post 1119, Xtoxm wrote:
In post 46, Shoshin wrote: My record speaks for itself and it's not just Labyrinth. In my initial newbie game, I called scumteam on D1 and was named MVP. In American Presidents, I called scumteam on D2 after which I was nightkilled. Town went on to win. I played a key role in winning Supp Mafia, pushing lynches on scum from D2 to the last day phase, when we won. I lynched scum in the recent Epic game, after which scum used their sole kill in the whole game on me. I've won all my town games on this site except the one that you were in, where again I told you not to mislynch Irrelephant (you did), told town not to mislynch Reck (they did), and then got screwed by Nos trolling.

You really need to get over yourself
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This is the definition of boasting
In post 369, Xtoxm wrote:Lol @ having 2 strong instant scum reads in a large game.
Get ove4 yourself
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Post Post #1128 (isolation #194) » Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:55 am

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In post 1125, Xtoxm wrote:
In post 1120, AlmostNancy wrote:
In post 1119, Xtoxm wrote:
In post 46, Shoshin wrote: My record speaks for itself and it's not just Labyrinth. In my initial newbie game, I called scumteam on D1 and was named MVP. In American Presidents, I called scumteam on D2 after which I was nightkilled. Town went on to win. I played a key role in winning Supp Mafia, pushing lynches on scum from D2 to the last day phase, when we won. I lynched scum in the recent Epic game, after which scum used their sole kill in the whole game on me. I've won all my town games on this site except the one that you were in, where again I told you not to mislynch Irrelephant (you did), told town not to mislynch Reck (they did), and then got screwed by Nos trolling.

You really need to get over yourself.
This is the definition of boasting
So, you believe Shoshin’s claims are somehow unfounded and you view her as arrogant. That makes her scum, how again?
No, I think the fact she has a good reputation and is incorrect about me makes her scum.
She is good but not a scumhunting God. This is weak reasoning.
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Post Post #1129 (isolation #195) » Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:56 am

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In post 1127, Xtoxm wrote:You missed quoting the part where I called myself a good player
I didn’t cut off your quote?
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Post Post #1133 (isolation #196) » Fri Dec 07, 2018 12:00 pm

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In post 837, Xtoxm wrote:
In post 818, AlmostNancy wrote:
In post 806, Xtoxm wrote:I dont feel like town-a50 can have a legit scum read on me here so thats a little sus

But what does my opinion matter
What have you really done for me to have a serious read on you? It's PoE and you're one of 5 slots I could lynch today, and
you do have a wagon you. and one that had both skitter & Shoshin joining before we did, so I told Nancy to sheep them. Otherwise our vote would have still been idle because Nancy is very conservative with her D1 votes by nature.
Well I don't expect a glowing townie read necessarily.
It's just that I expected you to approach it differently. You got me to l-1 and encouraged leaving me there. When I thought you would show a bit more caution. Than purging me on D1 on the basis of 9 posts. When you clearly have a favourable opinion of me. There was nothing along the lines of "let's wait for him to get into the game". It was Straight to "lets get a claim".

And because your approach surprised me this is why I have some suspicion.
What part of the bolded, did you not read?
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Post Post #1135 (isolation #197) » Fri Dec 07, 2018 12:01 pm

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In post 1130, Xtoxm wrote:That's the point
???
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Post Post #1136 (isolation #198) » Fri Dec 07, 2018 12:01 pm

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In post 1134, Nauci wrote:
In post 1086, skitter30 wrote:mewtaph replaced saude
Mewtaph replaced teacher

Saudade hasn't been replaced yet
Then who did NM replace?
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Post Post #1143 (isolation #199) » Fri Dec 07, 2018 12:06 pm

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In post 1063, Xtoxm wrote:Town claiming pgo instantly loses all it's utility, scum will never target it. Scum claiming pgo gives itself a free pass from all night threats. If I was scum and got dealt a pgo safeclaim id be looking to claim it asap.
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PGO is a VERY hard role to play. On the one side you want to obv!town in order not to be targeted by a Cop/Tracker.. etc, AND to get Scum to target you.

On the other side, if you do then you risk a Watcher/Doctor/BG being on you.

The BEST play for PGO is to claim early, and the get lynched the day before LyLo.
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