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Shoshin's 99.9% town, didn't you read Irrel's post?In post 442, Mitillos wrote:@Varsoon: Is your calling Shoshin town sincere, or are you still upset about the policy lynch thing (or possibly something else)? If it is sincere, please explain your read on her.- Nauci
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Let's not talk get into a conversation about how federal/private forest land management or climate change works (☞゚ヮ゚)☞In post 488, Performer wrote:
I’m talking about it on a wider scale than just that Camp Fire in Butte County – in terms of the fires in CA. with so many wildfires even happening in cold weather, I , friends, and others, refuse to believe it's just "natural" - that's nonsense.In post 346, Nauci wrote:I don't know what you're talking about with PGE and arsons
It was all the result of the Camp Fire
there was news about PGE messing things up too.
Is it really that hard to work out a system of having people monitoring and taking care of those areas , right? So poor management from PGE is 1 of the issues . They need to be held accountable (with actionable repercussions), JUST like the san bruno explosion . people's pets lost , lives lost , property lost, and so on. Imagine if your or my s.o. were lost due to the fire. It's outrageous for sources to say they're just natural causes.
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And uh - that was an actual mistake I made during rvs , which mitil made me aware of since I wasnt aware of.
Also FoS on tw, I don’t even understand his vote on me .
What in the?? Self conscious, what are you talking about!???In post 351, Nauci wrote:
Further self conscious posting that makes me suspicious afIn post 264, Performer wrote:
Fixed.In post 197, Varsoon wrote:It's kind of baffling that you propose a policy lynch on me and when Irrel + The Worst + Performer deny it outright
I dont like policy lynching (and for that matter I dont believe in the notion of "too scummy to be scum")
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very very null, but maybe slightly south of - given the pace I think I'm gonna need him for some real time interactions this game.In post 258, Irrelephant11 wrote:shoshin, tw - teacher read?
Tbf his opening post didn't have a lot to go by
how are you feeling about him?
also I'm getting bored of reactive catchup
fair afIrrelephant11 wrote:what if I told you I just have a lot of townreads and want all my townreads to townread me...as town
pedit: above is @keyser
I wasn't part of that mislynch
I'm neither townreading or scumreading varsoon here (as my readslists show)
I just had a ~~moment~~ because I think the defence of him I saw HERE is what I was waiting to see happen in THAT game if that makes sense
though in fairness I wasn't all that upset you didn't hard defend him last time- Varsoon
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When I wrote that I figured it'd be between Irrel, Shoshin, and AlmostNancy.In post 443, skitter30 wrote:
@varsoon pleaseIn post 411, skitter30 wrote:
do you still think shoshin is scum? ifnot, who's scum in irrel's proposed townbloc?In post 297, Varsoon wrote:But that's clearly because I am threatened scum who must undermine your town efforts to consolidate power.
Definitely.
It's not because I suspect that there's scum in the block.
why do you think there's scum in this group?In post 302, Varsoon wrote:I do suspect that at least one of Irrel, Shoshin, AlmostNancy, and TheWorst is scum, yes.
(i'm aware that you think shoshin is 99.9% town and that you will be following her to the ends of the earth, etc; i'm more intersted in who you think is scum and why you think there's scum in the group)
Now though, I believe in all of them!
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Had asked about this earlierIn post 496, Performer wrote:In post 392, Xtoxm wrote:the attitude coming from many players is totally disgustingSigh- the worst
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Your broken quote turned me a modIn post 495, the worst wrote:
Tbf you mislynched Varsoon in this game where I thought he was substantially more towny than he is here.In post 239, Irrelephant11 wrote:viewtopic.php?t=77508
here is my other game I played with varsoon, shoshin (aside from TAZ)
I will read up on more of his meta, though.
How confident are you in your townread?
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Krazy town irl
This is hilarious :']In post 500, Creature wrote:VC here- Keyser Söze
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I feel you should be more paranoid / town-cautious.In post 497, Irrelephant11 wrote:what if I told you I just have a lot of townreads and want all my townreads to townread me...as town
It's like you've thrown down a town block and you sit pretty within it (players also town reading you).
And then are a list of 4-5 players (probably me on the edge or dipping into it) in everyone's PoE right now. It doesnt feel right.- the worst
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...ooIn post 261, Mitillos wrote:@Irrelephant: Aww, you ruined it now.
UNVOTE: Irrelephant11 222 was 100% town, and the previous stuff wasn't bad either.
I will note that ignoring SI games is valid, because you have additional... responsibilities if you will, which could easily affect your playstyle. Also, games where you joined late wouldn't have told me if you wagonhop in RVS. However, you're right, what I did was definitely agenda-y:
worst probtown for posts 116 and 159 (amongst others). I'm ambivalent about Nauci for post 179. To those who play with her a lot: Is she always particularly careful and deliberating, or is she more like this as one alignment than others? I want to townread her for it, but I don't want to be biased just because I like her playstyle.
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hi skitter.In post 411, skitter30 wrote:does anything change if i told you that i saw town!varsoon and town!shoshin previously have a similar fight to this and she wrote him off as scum there and tried to lynch him?
I dont see how a previous game changes what I'm seeing in this game, especially in regard to who's voting me & why. Also, vars fights as any alignment - scum, third party, town, you name it.
I'm not as familiar with shos - and what I saw from irrel's 2 games , the similarity I saw from skimming is that she bare posts a ton. Those were just from town games of hers but not scum game meta.I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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which read/s do you disagree with?In post 276, Xtoxm wrote:VOTE: shosin
I was already getting scum vibes from calling a bunch of different people town for no reason and campaigning for a policy lynch is just a dick move
I get policy lynches are frowned upon but given her explanation do you think it's wolf indicative?
Do you think wolf!Shoshin calls for a policy lynch on a widely liked/respected player like Harpoon?- Nauci
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I've seen townrelephant exhibit these behaviors in every game I've seen townrelephantIn post 494, Keyser Söze wrote:@Relly, I think I owe you this. Gonna dump it all down in one post on why I'm having bad feels with you:-
Expressing early/easy town reads (pocketing):In post 23, Irrelephant11 wrote:Creature is townIn post 30, Irrelephant11 wrote:the worst is town, shoshin is town
skitter is more likely town than not
creature is probtown unless his claim is real, in which case lolIn post 222, Irrelephant11 wrote:Because she's obvtown
Sheeping a vote/wagon (buddying):In post 30, Irrelephant11 wrote:shoshin your point is fair but now who do I wagon
Too defensive of his own meta:In post 30, Irrelephant11 wrote:mitillos if you haven't figured it out I like wagonsIn post 222, Irrelephant11 wrote:So the scum game you found, I started the game as a lone Mafioso. I was later recruited by RCEnigma, so my unvote of him at the start of the game was uninformed (as uninformed as I am here) and not partner-indicative. Regardless, this is literally "I am cherry picking three of your games (excluding a bunch of them for no discernible reason - why would I play significantly different as IC, for example?) and you did this one thing as scum one time and you're doing it here; therefore, scum." Oh wait, also "an OMGUS vote". Do you believe in this read? You haven't tried to sell anyone on it. Are you just happy to feel like you can justify voting me, or?
Hard-defending 'town' - potential TMI'ing - pocketing attempt:In post 225, Irrelephant11 wrote:but I am here to say that Shoshin is scum .01% of the time here and you should find someone else to wagonIn post 281, Irrelephant11 wrote:Vote me before shoshin, please - at least my role is negative utilityIn post 283, Irrelephant11 wrote:honestly I think the moral of the story is shoshin/almostnancy/theworst should be the unbreakable townblock for the entire gameIn post 290, Irrelephant11 wrote:{shoshin, the worst, almost nancy} always townIn post 290, Irrelephant11 wrote:Keyser which of those three reads shouldn't be in the townblock?In post 291, Irrelephant11 wrote:the caveat on my reads is that I have townleaned friends who do not deserve it before because I like themIn post 299, Irrelephant11 wrote:-if you're still talking about scumreading shoshin, lynch me. When I flip town, you are not allowed to place another vote on shoshin. This is @ the entire playerlist.In post 371, Irrelephant11 wrote:{shoshin, the worst, almost nancy} always town
This is my tin-foil hat suspicion:
What's the best way to pocket someone suspicious of you...? Town read them.In post 230, Irrelephant11 wrote:oh nvm he's town
I super like 109, 150, 175 for town!him, though his paranoia of me is interesting and I'm curious to see where it will go
Thoughts?
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This is the kind of thing that objectively never catches scum but I think it's actually a tiny bit townyIn post 277, Performer wrote: I dont like the way shoshin voted skitter, later voted me, then when vars came back to talk about shosh, shes still on me while saying votes on vars is good (sounds like setting up) , soon after she flies straight from me onto scatman without addressing posts. Makes me think, "coasting mafia. "
And her confidence in scatman being scum and saying he's doing a pointless debate - the posts from vars dont look like pointless debate, it actually looks like shoshin is just writing vars off as scum.
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nnnhhhh I can't wait to catch up to that keyser v Irrelephant post- Irrelephant11
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I don't have ill will towards you, and I came into this game excited to play with the Varsoon who is eagerly trying to improve his ability to get along with other players & play well by joining more newbie games. Please stop giving your best effort to get me to be angry with you.In post 501, Varsoon wrote:
Shoshin's 99.9% town, didn't you read Irrel's post?In post 442, Mitillos wrote:@Varsoon: Is your calling Shoshin town sincere, or are you still upset about the policy lynch thing (or possibly something else)? If it is sincere, please explain your read on her.
Keyser, I agree that it's very possible that the gamestate is indicative of 1-2 wolves collecting townreads they don't deserve. I don't understand either (1) why that's more likely me than anyone else or (2) why did I set up this sentence to have two parts, I don't think I have a second part- the worst
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Everything above the pedit is cringeIn post 278, Varsoon wrote:P-EDIT:
Everything below the pedit is locktown-irl
Varsoon I think you're really caught up on like holistic meta stuff and I'm like... not all that interested in it.... do you think the reads have been bad? maliciously intended? which ones? why?- Mitillos
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@Varsoon: Your response tells me that you really don't give a shit right now whether we figure out who is scum or not. You really are making it very difficult to take you seriously and not just dismiss you as functionally anti-town. Mafia is a co-operative game. If you are town, how about you try some calm sincerity? Then the rest of us can see and evaluate your reads, and either vote like you, or voice our disagreements. If you just want to go with what Shoshin says because you expect her to be wrong and want to gloat about it after the fact, then you're just screwing the rest of us over for your personal vendetta. If you're just upset now and you can make it pass, please hurry up and do. Either way, I await honest responses to my questions, once you are ready.You don't have ambiguity; you haveoptions.- Irrelephant11
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Keyser, as for my self-meta-stuff, what would your reaction be if someone was like "well Keyser is always easily townread by everyone in every game, and that's not happening here, so he's scum"
Like?? mitillos literally scumcased me by using meta that was just patently untrue, I wanted the record set straight- the worst
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I see why
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I'm town reading mitillos and Nancy
And I think that the less active players need a chance to catch up so maybe Irrelephant and your town block can slow down a little so saudade/teacher/etc. can't just cry "too much to read I give up" and continue lurking maybe? I'm going to actually stop now for said reason.- AlmostNancy
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Right. No hinting or suggestive comments. How about the direct explicit ones though? I always go for the naked truth.
Now I'm confused. First you say no innuendo, but now you say no stating something. Which is it?
You mean like.. they should provide surveillance camera feed that they caught their teammates stealing from the gang?
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YesIn post 444, Shoshin wrote:Irrelephant, the worst, Nauci
As a starting point, does anyone disagree with my townreads?
can you link me it?In post 425, skitter30 wrote:she has the one scumgame,
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none of those look like naked votingIn post 493, Irrelephant11 wrote:In post 489, Performer wrote:
add irrel as well to FoS. In the game we were in, I don't remember him just naked voting like he did on me.In post 488, Performer wrote:Also FoS onSpoiler: let me remind you :)I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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