I have a Relly-Nauci scum theory, but I best save that...In post 568, Varsoon wrote:Nauci's posts actually ping me really hard as scum and I don't have much reason besides 'gut'.
I'm sure a better player can make a better case there if Nauci is actually scum, though.
He's a player that I played with a long time ago and had a blast with, but his play here has been very barebones and minimal.In post 569, Shoshin wrote:Varsoon, what's your read on Xtom?
It's not sarcastic shitposting, it's facts. Get with it.In post 570, Nauci wrote:Varsoon, why do you treat the game as if fighting the town read on shoshin or sarcastic shitposting about townreading shoshin are your only options?
Both are unproductive, and there are countless other ways to engage. Ignoring shoshin and her reads, what do you think of other players?
What are your thoughts on AlmostNancy? Specifically, on the Almost50 half, actually.
I am null on teacher, but just wanted to point out I have personally instructed my team to vote together and in succession on one target in early game to fool this VCA tactic in particular. I also would like to point out it was also used in the Team Mafia 2018 by at least one scum team for the same purpose.In post 422, Nauci wrote:my "read" on teacher is wholly independent of his posts and rests on the idea that 3 scum wouldn't vote shoshin together and I don't scum read teacher as much as the others.
In post 413, Nauci wrote:Nice catchIn post 390, AlmostNancy wrote:Interesting you’d say “lying” as opposed to just wrong.In post 380, Xtoxm wrote:Yeah, because anyone claiming strong reads this early in the game is more likely to just belying.
So, lemme get this straight. According to you, everyone who has claimed to have a strong read - either town or scum - is more likely to be straight-up lying than wrong.
Wow, this must be like the most scum sided game in the history of Mafia then.
One day, I want someone to send me a Hallmark card like this.In post 414, Shoshin wrote:A thought: Nancy once called me "shamelessly bad," "atrocious," and "a blight on the ecosystem" in the middle of a game, and maybe other things I forgot about? It was quite harsh. But now we're friends? So I hope that all the players who dislike me will one day come to enjoy my playstyle.
I kind of like your style. You even share my good taste. One of my hydras has that as its avatar. It would have been hillarious if I was playing with that hydra in this game.In post 417, Nauci wrote:Hey maybe I don't respond to condescension with acquiescenceIn post 409, Varsoon wrote:Hey maybe don't be a prat like this.In post 405, Nauci wrote:I'm glad you decided to respond to pressure with great contributions and sortable content that makes it easy to town read youIn post 369, Xtoxm wrote:Lol @ having 2 strong instant scum reads in a large game. Get ove4 yourself.
How about a readslist? I hear Gwyneth Paltrow swears by them.In post 423, Creature wrote:I need something to feel better
Why is teacher more suspicious than xtoxm?In post 428, Mitillos wrote:@Nauci: I've definitely seen scum vote together, if they thought they could pull it off on charisma alone. Also, I think post 0 mentioned the possibility of third parties, so that's another dimension altogether.
I think I see what you mean about performer being self-conscious. I'll reread because you may have a point there. As for xtoxm, you could make the same accusation on N_M, and to a lesser degree teacher. In fact, I will remind you that teacher's post (177, so 8 pages in) just had a soft defense on Performer and an unexplained vote on Shoshin. xtoxm at least gave some content (e.g. telling Varsoon he is not townreading skitter). At this time, I'd be more suspicious of teacher than xtoxm.
First game: The one you were an Even Night Cop and got Vigged N1 and Flavor Leaf faked Masons with Scum Creature. I was the Town RB.In post 544, Shoshin wrote:Can you remind me when we played together?In post 537, AlmostNancy wrote:Come on, Shoshin. You played both me and my naughty twin brother (AP).
If you're talking about the game I modded for that first one, you're confusing Sashaddin with Shoshin. Hilarious cluster of a game though.In post 588, AlmostNancy wrote:First game: The one you were an Even Night Cop and got Vigged N1 and Flavor Leaf faked Masons with Scum Creature. I was the Town RB.In post 544, Shoshin wrote:Can you remind me when we played together?In post 537, AlmostNancy wrote:Come on, Shoshin. You played both me and my naughty twin brother (AP).
Second game: I was using my alt (AP) and I fake claimed Vengeful. (And now I'm second guessing myself if you really were in that game. It was modded by Skygazer)
Why do you think this?In post 577, Shoshin wrote:Performer wagon has played out
Varsoon, in BoR, you pushed me for doing the exact opposite of that. I know you were scum in that game but tbf, I was putting a lot of energy into figuring out the setup. I don’t need to do that here. And it’s nice to be mindmelding on reads. Not everyone enjoys arguing, I know I don’t. So, I realy don’t understand why you think we’re playing it “safe” here? How is what I’m doing here, all that different, than what I do in every other game I’ve been in?In post 576, Varsoon wrote:He's a player that I played with a long time ago and had a blast with, but his play here has been very barebones and minimal.In post 569, Shoshin wrote:Varsoon, what's your read on Xtom?
I'm not a huge fan of what's there but I don't think him sheeping my reasons for voting you is particularly duplicitous--he probably was just buying into a lot of what I was laying down.
I wish he'd come back in and play more.
It's not sarcastic shitposting, it's facts. Get with it.In post 570, Nauci wrote:Varsoon, why do you treat the game as if fighting the town read on shoshin or sarcastic shitposting about townreading shoshin are your only options?
Both are unproductive, and there are countless other ways to engage. Ignoring shoshin and her reads, what do you think of other players?
What are your thoughts on AlmostNancy? Specifically, on the Almost50 half, actually.
I'm forgoing a lot of my own agency for what I believe is a plan of action much more likely to result in a win for town.
Yeah, it sucks, and I'm a bit bitter about it and I'm working through that, bear with me, but it really is a pill I need to swallow so that we can come out ahead.
Other players? Just read my posts. I'm probably wrong anyway, so I wouldn't put a lot of stock in my judgments.
I think it's kinda fucked that someone dropped a whole great post about why Irrel could just be obvious conning us and people were all "Oh no this is just irrel lol don't get paranoid"
But that's my paranoia speaking. I was literally wrong on my paranoia on irrel in the newbie game we shared, so I'm probably wrong here.
Best to just trust Shoshin.
I have no idea why AlmostNancy has such a townread. Neither head has done anything that's impressed me or challenged the gamestate, imo.
They're playing really safe despite all the content they've generated, which is actually fairly par for the course for both heads, especially Nancy.
I couldn't tell you about A50 specifically, though, as I haven't really had the time or passion to differentiate the two.
Once I get really good reads, usually later in the game, my play changes. Labrynth was kind of a fluke because there was such obvious blatantly scummy players like TPFKAP, for example. Anyway, Xman is my strongest scumread atm. I just need to figure out how to spell it first.In post 593, Varsoon wrote:That's what I'm saying.
It's par for the course.
I just have a hard playstyle difference from you
Guess I can't read you accuratey
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You really think we’re all just blind sheeping her on reads here? I find that kind of insulting. I’m sheeping her ONLY because my reads happen to be mindmelding with hers. Make no mistake here, No way in hell, do I ever sheepIn post 595, Varsoon wrote:Eugh
I hated showing my work.
But yeah I agree, Shoshin's methods are A+, way better than mine, which is why I'm following Shoshin here.
Real talk, though, don't fucking tell me to check Shoshin's meta when it only has a single scumgame in the whole damn thing.
I can't wait for the game when scum-Shoshin snows you all for eating out of her hands like a bunch of orphans who can't earn a damn thing yourselves.