Open 742: C9++ (Game Over)

[Gnelf]

UNVOTE:
We are sitting in voice call, all three of us are going through the game together, but unvote for now to avoid a prod.
-OkaPoka

[Gamma Emerald]

What’chu talkin’ ‘bout?

[Gnelf]

I think people who hopped on the Shema = Scum bandwagon are scum (ROS and Clemency). It's kinda suspicious how Clemency claims he "forgot" about this game. If I was scum I would just hang back until I could join a bandwagon to get a lynch asap.

VOTE: Clemency

-PraiseOurLordBiggieCheese

[LolWagons]

Fucking A here I am typing up my post and you come and take the wind out of my sails Gnelf

[LolWagons]

Gamma Emerald

Spoiler: Lean Town

#135: Honestly thought his vote was fine on this slot, I know its my slot, but that was a good discussion starter for that early in the game. I like him laying down his hand here, wish he would have waited for A50 to answer the question first though.
#143: Good read, agree

There's a lot of posts here but those are the two that stuck out. Proactive, driving discussion, seems town.

ReaperOfSouls

Spoiler: Lean Scum

#99 Probably not scum buddies with the hydra
#125: Okay
#205: Okay
#215: Okay

Profile pretty much identical to Clemency. No contributions, lots of fluff, no original thoughts.

Gnelf

Spoiler: Lean Town

#167: Yes

Slight town because they voted my scumread and brought up what I was going to bring up.

Egix96

Spoiler: Lean Scum

#122: Ew
#126: Ew-er
#183: Ew
#201: Ew-er

Although engaging a bit more genuinely and directly than Reaper or Clemency still a lot of fluff and maybe a bit of buddying.

MariaR

Spoiler: Null

#9: Trolling for reactions, love it.
#64: Direct, I like it. One on one with Dunn doesn't really offer me any new insight into the read.
#174: Good read.

Overall an alright slot, Not a lot of participation outside a couple town reads and a one on one with Dunn so I'm not comfortable calling this slot lean town but if there was a gun to my head I'd call town.

Dunnstral

Spoiler: Lean Town

#68: Ew
#75: More Ew. That's not shade, it was a valid point. Pretty unabashed OMGUS.
#83: You're being active, I wouldn't call it proactive.
#89: But one of those was RVS...am I misreading something?
#107: Okay not his post but A50's, apparently Dunn gets run up a lot on day 1 accordin to Gamma, and a50 is reads him town. Doesn't mean he is immune to a scum role PM but that gives context I guess.
#142: Actually does read town, agree with Gamma.
# 197: Haha, now that's shade. That's how shade is thrown.

Overall a headstrong slot, I think with the lack of other strong personalities in this game it might work for you instead of against you here.

Clemency

Spoiler: Lean Scum

#101/#102: Unless "dab" is a significant contribution I'm unaware of, we are on 6 posts with nothing useful outside an RVS vote and no meaningful engagement with other players
#155: Okay seriously wtf how are people letting this guy gallivant around uselessly like this 7 pages in
#175: Sheeping a town read okay cool that's almost contribution.
#216: Okay great still nothing original to contribute
#217: I haven't

0verki11

Spoiler: Lean Town

#46 is good.
#173 is good.
#222 looks like the reasoning comes from town.

Not a lot of super strong tells but town seems fairly likely for this slot.

Persivul

Spoiler: Probably Town

#65/#66: Waiting before he shows his hand for Gamma's reaction is nice. Very Socratic type of play. Interested in reactions and thus alignment.
#76: More of the that
#115: I like you noticed this but agree he was just feigning confidence for reactions as he later stated.
#202: Is good pressure.

Probably my strongest town read. Seems the most engaged and the most direct. Definitely a drive to discern alignment and not just drive lynches.

Almost50

Spoiler: Null

#12: Okay, interesting. Are you implying we shouldn't take that at face value? Is there any reason to doubt the claim?
#118: Everything on this page seems town from A50. I like the questions he is asking and the interactions with Pers.
#214: You know if you say your vote is for a specific reaction you pretty much forfeit that reaction from happening right?

Going back and forth with this. Some fluff (like #12 above, and to a lesser extent #214), and the whole IC thing and posting in the wrong thread is making a little unsure where to place him because if he is that disengaged I don't know how confident I can be in any tells I think I pick up.

PenguinPower

Spoiler: Town

He's the IC. Duh.

Lovebird

Spoiler: Null

#105 I like the early reads even if at this point I don't agree with Dunn. LB seems to be playing transparently.

I like the amount of reads but the lack of explanation and proactive engagement is nullifying that. Seems like a pattern of swooping in, giving vague reads, then leaving.

General thoughts:
Not as confident in my reads as I normally am. Too many people (Egix, Maria, Reaper, Clemency) have gotten away with mainly fluff posting and it makes it really hard to discern alignment. Also, leaving your votes parked on a lurker slot to pressure the replacement? Seems mainly like an excuse to not engage with other players. What if it took a while to find a replacement? And the fact that the closest we've gotten to a lynch is L-3...explains why I am having trouble with the reads. Wagons generate content.

Also, just going to head off the OMGUS accusations now: Yes, I realize two of my scum reads are on my wagon. No, I don't think they are both scum (I don't think scum would wagon back to back like that), but I think that's where pressure needs to go and I bet one of them is.

Also, disclaimer, this is an alt of Slaxx, I just can't access the account currently. So if meta is your thing have at it. I have a couple completed games on this guy as well from a while back.

[LolWagons]

TL;DR Actually play the game, make wagons, and vote Clemency.

Thx

[PenguinPower]

Why not vote A50?

[Dunnstral]

I think I like all your reads LolWagons, except I'd say A50 leans town as well

[LolWagons]

Because he's a null read, as I explained in my post. Going after the leaning scum read who has not contributed and who everyone let feign activity the whole day today.

[MariaR]

VOTE: Almost50

[LolWagons]

^ Why we need to start forming wagons on people feigning activity and sheeping reads

You guys have let that shit go on too long

[MariaR]

Then do something about it.

[LolWagons]

VOTE: Clemency

On mobile, will do PbP and prelim reads in a bit.

Take a look at that ISO and tell me that’s not scum though.

I am

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Almost50

Then do something about it.

VOTE: Clemency

[MariaR]

You posted a reads list that 3 people in a voice call made. Am I suppose to be impressed?

[Dunnstral]

You posted a reads list that 3 people in a voice call made. Am I suppose to be impressed?

???

What is this post supposed to mean?

[LolWagons]

You posted a reads list that 3 people in a voice call made. Am I suppose to be impressed?

I gave reasons behind them and have been more transparent and active already in four posts than you've been the whole game.

[Dunnstral]

Also, Gnelf is the one in the voice call, what are you talking about

[MariaR]

You posted a reads list that 3 people in a voice call made. Am I suppose to be impressed?

I gave reasons behind them and have been more transparent and active already in four posts than you've been the whole game.

Okay buddy! So sorry let me just go make up a reads list and that gives me the right to be on my high horse all game.

[PenguinPower]

Because he's a null read, as I explained in my post. Going after the leaning scum read who has not contributed and who everyone let feign activity the whole day today.

It was a waffly read, and easy to pass off as null. I don't like it.

VOTE: A50

[LolWagons]

You posted a reads list that 3 people in a voice call made. Am I suppose to be impressed?

I gave reasons behind them and have been more transparent and active already in four posts than you've been the whole game.

Okay buddy! So sorry let me just go make up a reads list and that gives me the right to be on my high horse all game.

Don't think I'm playing all that well, to be honest. even said so in my post. Just better than you.

[Dunnstral]

I don't understand why you're suddenly aggressive MariaR

[LolWagons]

Because he's a null read, as I explained in my post. Going after the leaning scum read who has not contributed and who everyone let feign activity the whole day today.

It was a waffly read, and easy to pass off as null. I don't like it.

VOTE: A50

Welp I'm not going to lie about my read just so you will. I explained pretty clearly it was a mixed bag.

[PenguinPower]

Also, Gnelf is the one in the voice call, what are you talking about

This is true though...

[MariaR]

You posted a reads list that 3 people in a voice call made. Am I suppose to be impressed?

I gave reasons behind them and have been more transparent and active already in four posts than you've been the whole game.

Okay buddy! So sorry let me just go make up a reads list and that gives me the right to be on my high horse all game.

Don't think I'm playing all that well, to be honest. even said so in my post. Just better than you.

Keep thinking that buddy. When I get scum lynched we'll see who's talking lol