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Post Post #5 (isolation #0) » Fri Nov 23, 2018 2:45 am

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Post Post #14 (isolation #1) » Fri Nov 23, 2018 7:19 am

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VOTE: bright eye

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Post Post #38 (isolation #2) » Sat Nov 24, 2018 12:55 am

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VOTE: profli
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Post Post #40 (isolation #3) » Sat Nov 24, 2018 2:38 am

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Post Post #108 (isolation #4) » Mon Nov 26, 2018 4:07 am

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Ouch that hurt. At least buy me dinner first.

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Post Post #111 (isolation #5) » Mon Nov 26, 2018 5:31 am

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In post 109, Egix96 wrote:
In post 108, Doughboy wrote:Ouch that hurt. At least buy me dinner first.
When are you gonna start, y'know... actually doing stuff?
idk. probably when I feel like actually doing stuff.
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Post Post #112 (isolation #6) » Mon Nov 26, 2018 5:32 am

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for the record I am voting the person I would most like to be lynched so i am already doing stuff.
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Post Post #114 (isolation #7) » Mon Nov 26, 2018 5:47 am

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Meta. This isn’t town profli based on my personal experience and games I’ve read from him.
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Post Post #116 (isolation #8) » Mon Nov 26, 2018 5:51 am

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Idk. Hard to put into words.
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Post Post #118 (isolation #9) » Mon Nov 26, 2018 6:01 am

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And why are you voting him?
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Post Post #126 (isolation #10) » Mon Nov 26, 2018 7:06 am

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In post 121, Trivium wrote:Doughboy, what do you think of tex?
I need to reread the game. I don’t have opinions on anyone else atm
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Post Post #152 (isolation #11) » Tue Nov 27, 2018 12:42 pm

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Wow it’s neck and neck. Why is Tex getting voted?
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Post Post #155 (isolation #12) » Tue Nov 27, 2018 2:19 pm

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It’s ok. I can wait for an answer
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Post Post #158 (isolation #13) » Tue Nov 27, 2018 2:24 pm

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In post 157, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 155, Doughboy wrote:It’s ok. I can wait for an answer
You are supposed to answer...
How am I supposed to answer my own question?
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Post Post #160 (isolation #14) » Tue Nov 27, 2018 2:25 pm

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In post 152, Doughboy wrote:Wow it’s neck and neck. Why is Tex getting voted?
Idk. I’ll have to see what the people voting them say.

I guess I wasn’t specific enough?

@the people voting text, can you tell me why please?

Maybe that’s specific?

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Post Post #161 (isolation #15) » Tue Nov 27, 2018 2:26 pm

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In post 159, Elbirn wrote:Well that's fine and well but I'd like to hear that from Doughboy, respectfully
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Post Post #163 (isolation #16) » Tue Nov 27, 2018 2:28 pm

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I’m so confused right now. The pot doesn’t help but I’m legit lost right now.
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Post Post #164 (isolation #17) » Tue Nov 27, 2018 2:29 pm

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In post 162, Elbirn wrote:Why do you scumread profii. what about his meta is different? Is your read only meta based, or are there other things you dislike?
I swear I already answered these. The newbie mod guy asked me.
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Post Post #165 (isolation #18) » Tue Nov 27, 2018 2:31 pm

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Just checked. I did answer 2 of them.

There is an other thing I didn’t like. I didn’t like his aggressiveness. That’s tied to meta though but I felt that was clear. My apologies.

His entrance to this game and how he’s playing isn’t how I know town profli to be. So it pings me enough to vote there for now. Once I catch up,I’ll maybe have other thoughts but for now I like my vote.
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Post Post #167 (isolation #19) » Tue Nov 27, 2018 2:34 pm

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In post 160, Doughboy wrote:the people voting text, can you tell me why please?
Now can I sit and wait for this to be answered?

I still haven’t caught up yet. I don’t even have a good excuse for why I haven’t. Lack of cares right now and pot are keeping me from reading. Let me get past Wednesday and I’ll force myself to sit down and deal with sorting people. It is day 1 so no rush imo.
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Post Post #168 (isolation #20) » Tue Nov 27, 2018 2:35 pm

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In post 166, Elbirn wrote:If I can ask you another question though, what do you think about Springtrap?
I honestly have no opinion on anyone else unfortunately.
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Post Post #178 (isolation #21) » Wed Nov 28, 2018 4:15 am

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so you think he site flaked because he was scum? why not consider that he did this as town?
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Post Post #182 (isolation #22) » Wed Nov 28, 2018 4:32 am

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In post 180, Trivium wrote:
In post 178, Doughboy wrote:so you think he site flaked because he was scum? why not consider that he did this as town?
Scum is usually more susceptible to that kind of pressure,
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if they're new.
citation needed.

I'd personally trust the newbie site mod who just said it is NAI. If you have evidence to support the opposite, please share it with the class.
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Post Post #189 (isolation #23) » Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:12 am

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I have a new read. trivium pings scummy
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Post Post #190 (isolation #24) » Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:13 am

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In post 182, Doughboy wrote:citation needed.

I'd personally trust the newbie site mod who just said it is NAI. If you have evidence to support the opposite, please share it with the class.
still waiting for your evidence...
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Post Post #191 (isolation #25) » Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:17 am

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tex has 4 posts. There is absolutely nothing in those to indicate if he is town or scum. anyone who says otherwise is straight up lying.

His last post was right before a VC that shows he had 4 votes, but I am pretty sure not all 4 were serious so I agree with Penguin that he wasn't under pressure really.

The replace out is not alignment indicative either.

Literally trivium has no reason at all to scum read tex, yet he's pushing an agenda that he is somehow scum who replaced out under pressure.

Smells like shit to me.
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Post Post #195 (isolation #26) » Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:36 am

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Post Post #200 (isolation #27) » Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:45 am

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In post 197, Trivium wrote:Give a reason to vote me or get off before I scumread you even more.
his reason is implied and what's with the fear tactic?
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Post Post #203 (isolation #28) » Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:47 am

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In post 202, Trivium wrote:
In post 200, Doughboy wrote:
In post 197, Trivium wrote:Give a reason to vote me or get off before I scumread you even more.
his reason is implied and what's with the fear tactic?
If it was implied, what is it?
your push on tex pings scummy
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Post Post #204 (isolation #29) » Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:47 am

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VOTE: trivium

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Post Post #206 (isolation #30) » Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:48 am

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and you have not provided me the evidence I have asked for twice now.
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Post Post #210 (isolation #31) » Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:52 am

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In post 205, Trivium wrote:What does that even mean? Pings scummy? I disagree with you, that's no reason to scumread me unless you yourself are scum.
It means your actions look scummy.

I am sorry if you disagree with me, obviously you are going to regardless of your alignment, but there are very good reasons tyo scum read you and they don't have anything to do with me being scum. I outlined my thoughts on why you look bad. You look more like scum trying to take advantage of a newbie who site flaked and ignoring evidence that him site flaking isn't alignment indicative. You have also said you know it is alignment indicative but when I ask you to support this you have not yet provided evidence.


There is nothing in tex's iso that indicates he is scum or town.
him site flaking doesn't push the scale one way or the other.

you saying it does is more scum motivated to me than town motivated. Basically you look like scum going after low hanging fruit.
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Post Post #211 (isolation #32) » Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:52 am

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In post 208, Trivium wrote:lmao that's not a reason to scumread me either, try harder
i disagree. i think it is a damn good reason. I don't need to try harder. i am trying just right.
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Post Post #219 (isolation #33) » Wed Nov 28, 2018 7:04 am

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In post 216, Trivium wrote:Oh yeah, there's plenty of people who swear all the time, that's not alignment indicative. But just the way they flow into the post is strange and fake to me
What is strange about getting frustrated?

You got frustrated when people suspected you and you want us to believe you are town, so why is he scum for it and you aren’t?
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Post Post #223 (isolation #34) » Wed Nov 28, 2018 7:41 am

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In post 197, Trivium wrote:This is pretty opportunistic. What are you trying to do, get me to talk more? I'm talking enough. Give a reason to vote me or get off before I scumread you even more.
In post 208, Trivium wrote:lmao that's not a reason to scumread me either, try harder
In post 205, Trivium wrote:I disagree with you, that's no reason to scumread me unless you yourself are scum.
These posts don’t come from a calm rational townie. You’re either frustrated scum or frustrated town imo.
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Post Post #227 (isolation #35) » Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:01 am

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you think you are being clever, but you aren't.

I clearly stated that was my opinion. You on the other stand made a statement that dictated what scum typically do. there is a HUGE difference.

But fine, I will play your game.

if you were not nervous you wouldn't call 1 vote on you opportunistic. That doesn't even make sense. Opportunistic voting is when more when multiple people are voting somebody and somebody else hops on easily. That didn't happen here.

You telling me what is and isn't a reason to scum read you also seems frustrated. Like how dare i scum read you for something that you don't agree with. Well guess what? in mafia not everyone is going to agree and there was nothing wronmg with my reason to scum read you. I actually think it is pretty good. I also don't think you have the right to criticize my reasons given how terrible yours are, even when people are trying to explain your reasons are bad, you just ignore/discredit.

Saying I can only be scum to scum read you also comes off as frustrated. It's also an attempt to discredit me. I know this tactic because i have used it myself.


I was really trying to avoid tunneling, but you want to be a cheeky SOB, fine be cheeky all the way to the gallows. I am not moving my vote off you.
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Post Post #229 (isolation #36) » Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:40 am

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In post 228, PenguinPower wrote:So they're NAI?
of course, but you're missing the point of that post.
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Post Post #231 (isolation #37) » Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:14 am

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In post 230, PenguinPower wrote:Which is?
Frustration is not AI. Tex’s frustration is AI and not scum indicative like he says.
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Post Post #235 (isolation #38) » Wed Nov 28, 2018 1:31 pm

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That’s great. My reasons may be terrible to you, but they are better than anything you have given. So you’re is whatever worse than terrible.
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Post Post #259 (isolation #39) » Thu Nov 29, 2018 1:03 am

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In post 257, profii wrote:If you are both town
That’s the thing. I don’t think he’s town. His actions aren’t town.
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Post Post #352 (isolation #40) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:12 am

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In post 350, Egix96 wrote:
In post 346, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 345, Elbirn wrote:Like if hes scummy because of his reads list it's going to be because of its content in this game, not because 9 years ago he played scum and replaced in with a readslist. What about his post smells like scum to you?
His read list isn't the problem. It maybe that I'm just being defensive and OMGUS because of his attacks on me.
I looked into his meta and meta research is something I practically never do on day 1 and I saw that similarity. An intro post with a reads list is typically NAI but
I'm looking for something to verify my read on him.

Maybe I'm grasping but my gut is telling me scum.
This doesn't seem towny to me...
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Post Post #354 (isolation #41) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:13 am

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Still need to work through some ISO’s but for now I still want profli lynched.

VOTE: profli

Mala is a good lynch also.

Ruby and lol read town today me. The rest idk yet.
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Post Post #359 (isolation #42) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 4:23 am

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In post 355, Egix96 wrote:The part that I bolded seems more likely to come from a scum mindset than a town one, at least that's my take on it.
That doesn’t really make much sense. Town want to make sure they are right. Looking for something to help confirm that is town all the way. Scum doesn’t need to look for things to prove them right, they know they aren’t and it’s easy to just make up shit
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Post Post #361 (isolation #43) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 4:43 am

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I’m not concerned with what you think about me. You are my top scum read and I’m not going to let how I’m perceived by you change that.
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Post Post #374 (isolation #44) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 6:52 am

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In post 364, Ruby Red wrote:doughboy what's your case on profii?
meta and gut
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Post Post #375 (isolation #45) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 6:54 am

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In post 370, profii wrote:Doughboys liable to tunnel / a playstyle that appears unreasonable

The reason I said the longer it goes on makes me scum read him more because - fine - within your first few posts to say “I’ve noticed profii was more aggressive which isn’t his meta so perhaps it’s scum” is legit

15 pages on to offer nothing further on the case is questionable

If it carries on it becomes meta manipulation - eg my difficult behaviour/ tunnel is how I play it’s not scummy - actually it potentially becomes scum acting up to their known clear meta

It’s a weak case but that’s why the longer doughboy doesn’t do anything else the more of a risk he becomes


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Post Post #379 (isolation #46) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:33 am

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gdi I knew I forgot something

VOTE: trivium
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Post Post #380 (isolation #47) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:35 am

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In post 378, Trivium wrote:I get the case on profii but I also scumread BEF, so I'm not super sure where to put my vote, I'm starting to believe some crazy conspiracy stuff is going on here
btw this is a classic example of fence sitting...
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Post Post #387 (isolation #48) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:32 am

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In post 386, profii wrote:Dr do little and doughboy come in and shade me then both vote Trivium

Looks like they are trying to start a counter wagon to me
I’ve been scum reading you from day one. Did you order that tinfoil hat yet? Cause if you aren’t scum, you’re delusional/paranoid town.

I switched back to trivium because I forgot I said I wasn’t voting anyone else. Dr Doolittle sheeping me twice is noteworthy but until I get a flip on one or both of you, I don’t know what to make of it.
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Post Post #390 (isolation #49) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 1:54 pm

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In post 388, profii wrote:If you are insisting I’m paranoid why is that a scum tell

Surely that’s a sign I don’t have TMI

What you are pushing doesn’t add up here
You missed the part where I think you’re scum first. Paranoid second. Need your flip to know for sure but don’t worry, you seem to have these other chaps fooled.
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Post Post #391 (isolation #50) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 1:58 pm

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In post 389, Elbirn wrote:
In post 386, profii wrote:Dr do little and doughboy come in and shade me then both vote Trivium

Looks like they are trying to start a counter wagon to me
What would be gained from starting a counter wagon to you? I'm really not sure what you're trying to imply, if you're town then there cant really be a nefarious agenda to forming a counter wagon, scum would just let your mislynch happen.
Exactly. He didn’t even make sense. I didn’t understand why he Eminem’d me earlier either if he was town. Shade me and then try to predict what I’ll say if I ever try to defend myself, which I wouldn’t but he didn’t know that.
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Post Post #411 (isolation #51) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 1:22 am

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In post 393, profii wrote:Doughboy tried to shade me with DDL - to get people away from BEF - didn’t take off
Then they both vote Trivium - again to get people off BEF

It’s about saving BEF
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Post Post #412 (isolation #52) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 1:27 am

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In post 394, profii wrote:Now you are also needlessly shading me - so now things get complicated - without setup specing too much, I work on 13p = 3 scum until something happens to say otherwise - so it can’t be BEF / DDL / Dough / you
Are you just going to accuse everyone who scum reads you, guilty of shading you? Are you going to accuse everyone who doesn’t agree with you about bef being scum, attempting a counter to bef?

That’s very naive anti town thinking sir.

You are basically trying to force everyone on bef and if they don’t they are starting a counter to him.

I scum read you from day 1. I scum read trivium for his actions. This has nothing to do with creating a counter to somebody, it does have everything to do with trying to lynch who I think is scum.

If anyone is shading people, it’s you.
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Post Post #413 (isolation #53) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 1:31 am

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In post 395, BrightEyedFish wrote:I'm find it's strange that profii thinks he has the game already solved so early and this could be interpreted as scummy but I still don't put him as my top SR, maybe 2nd or 3rd.
Since I was falsely accused of trying to shade profli, I may as well actually shade him.

Profli is a Horrible mafia player when town. Nobody should trust his opinions. Go look at the last game we played for evidence of that. Easily top 3 worst players of that game.
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Post Post #414 (isolation #54) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 1:33 am

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In post 398, profii wrote:I think there will be minimum 1 scum in {BEF / DDL / Elbirn / Dough} and that list is probably in order I’d prefer to lynch and find out
Congratulations. anyine can name 4 people and probably have one scum in that list. You don’t have good reasons to suspect these people though. You think I’m scum because I think you’re scum. Actually aside from bef, your other 3 are omgus. Get lost
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Post Post #415 (isolation #55) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 1:33 am

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In post 401, profii wrote:it was never about changing a counter wagon for me......

it was

"shit guys, people are on BEF, let's try to get them on to profii, nope that's not working, well lets have a go at Trivium then"
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Post Post #416 (isolation #56) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 1:35 am

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Bef are you really self voting? If so why?

@proli. Give me a case on why bef is scum and why you are town.
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Post Post #418 (isolation #57) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:12 am

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@mod you should use one of the automatic vote counters.
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Post Post #419 (isolation #58) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:14 am

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@profli. Where did I actually shade you? Saying i scum read you isn’t shading, so where please?

If anything you shaded me, not the other way around.
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Post Post #428 (isolation #59) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 4:53 am

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In post 420, profii wrote:Interesting that you posted 413/414 - my feedback to you would be that you showed no interest in working with anyone that disagreed with you in that game and you were a massive toxic influence to the game
My replacement was a toxic influence, not me. I left because of other toxic players. So you’re full of shit. I also called out duck as scum and he almost won the game because of you.
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Post Post #429 (isolation #60) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 4:53 am

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In post 421, profii wrote:This is bad shading - just totally dismissing my reasons
No it isn’t. It’s the truth.
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Post Post #430 (isolation #61) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 4:54 am

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In post 427, DrDolittle wrote:
In post 416, Doughboy wrote:@proli. Give me a case on why bef is scum and why you are town.
Ps you missed this post...
Yes do this please.
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Post Post #433 (isolation #62) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:05 am

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In post 432, Trivium wrote:
In post 425, DrDolittle wrote:Everyone and their moms can make a push on BEF. You making a slight jab there does not make you scum hunting
Why can everyone and their moms make a push on bef? Could it be because he's acting scummy?
How is he acting scummy? You’re acting scummy. So is profli. What has bef done that’s scummier than you two?
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Post Post #460 (isolation #63) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 8:30 am

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In post 452, LolWagons wrote:This profii/doughboy thing reads like town vs town and they just hate each other from another game.
That’s not true. At least not from me. I only hate like 3/4 people on this site and he’s not one of them. I’m just familiar with his play and his play this game is completely different imo.
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Post Post #461 (isolation #64) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 8:39 am

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Why doesn’t profli want to explain his case on bef?
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Post Post #462 (isolation #65) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 9:10 am

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In post 258, profii wrote:The move on and off of Tex is just something I can't look past.

That would make Tex the planned mislynch and BEF doesn't want to be caught on wagon. That being said, Trivium is hard pushing Tex but I think it was 196 which looked like someone finding genuine reasons rather than fabricating an excuse to vote so TR there too.
Now I understand why. This is weak sauce.
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Post Post #469 (isolation #66) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:17 am

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In post 467, LolWagons wrote:
In post 462, Doughboy wrote:
In post 258, profii wrote:The move on and off of Tex is just something I can't look past.

That would make Tex the planned mislynch and BEF doesn't want to be caught on wagon. That being said, Trivium is hard pushing Tex but I think it was 196 which looked like someone finding genuine reasons rather than fabricating an excuse to vote so TR there too.
Now I understand why. This is weak sauce.
You might want to reread the last few pages.
I asked him to write out his case. He refused by way of ignoring the request I made twice and somebody else made once. Actions are louder than words. So I don’t need to read it. Bef is lock town now.
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Post Post #470 (isolation #67) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:21 am

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I just skimmed profli’s iso He has no case other than what I posted and now he added a fake counter attempt that never happened.
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Post Post #476 (isolation #68) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:09 am

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In post 458, LolWagons wrote:It should be super telling that people refuted BEF's "logic" about meta before I even got here to defend myself, he fucking walked it back but stuck on my slot, he is lurker hunting me but not concerned about more absent people, and he's pretty much universally acknowledged as an easy target to push on, and
we still are having trouble getting votes on him.
I played a game recently where quick lynch happens on scum and super difficult obviously scummy person was near impossible so maybe in the olden days this was reliable. It’s not anymore. Besides bef isn’t that scummy. Obviously since I can’t even get a read on him and it took the person most vocal about lynching him to refuse to provide a case that determine he’s town.
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Post Post #484 (isolation #69) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 12:40 pm

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In post 482, LolWagons wrote:There was a case provided, you just don't agree with the logic.
I didn’t see him respond to my request. Can you link it?
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Post Post #486 (isolation #70) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:49 pm

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I’m not asking for one from you. You’re confirmed scum. I’m asking your most likely scum buddy profli to provide something more than the nonsense he posted when he voted. That was worse of a reason than what he says is so bad about my reasons for scum reading him.

Meta > he hopped off a mislynch so he’s probably scum.

Scum want to mislynch. They don’t hop off mislynches.

You both make sense as scum. If you both are town you and mr “I’m scum” all are killing our chances of winning this game.
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Post Post #487 (isolation #71) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:49 pm

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And yes your reason is terrible. Nobody should agree with it imo.
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Post Post #493 (isolation #72) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 7:00 pm

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In post 491, LolWagons wrote:
In post 464, LolWagons wrote:
In post 460, Doughboy wrote:
In post 452, LolWagons wrote:This profii/doughboy thing reads like town vs town and they just hate each other from another game.
That’s not true. At least not from me. I only hate like 3/4 people on this site and he’s not one of them. I’m just familiar with his play and his play this game is completely different imo.
What read did you have on him day 1 in that game?
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My read on him was he was trolling and I wanted the PL him. See he was actually one of the toxic players in that game. He faked a post restriction and did absolutely nothing to help town. He’s got other games where he is useless as town. Here he’s actually trying to be helpful and appear townie which is different than what I’ve seen from him (meta) and is even say it’s lamist. The easiest way for cheap town cred is that end rvs and every mafia player knows that. The fact he tried to take credit for it earlier hurts him.
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Post Post #494 (isolation #73) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 7:03 pm

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In post 488, LolWagons wrote:Doughboy
In post 444, profii wrote:and to try and be as succinct as possible regarding BEF.

his ISO features a lot of talk about the Tex/Lol slot, the indecision over voting there appears like someone who has TMI - wants to be voting there, but knows it will be a mislynch so needs to find an 'excuse' to be on the wagon if the flip actually happens - up until very near the end of the ISO, there is very little else about other slots, which IME is something i have caught scum doing - they tend to just pick on a player they think they can get a mislynch on, rather than assessing the entire town as a whole and saying "I like X Y & Z because... and I dont like A B and C because...."
This is just a wordier version of his original reason. I see no evidence to support these claims though. How does he know he’s just town who wasn’t sure what to do? That’s actually a thing you know?

If that’s all anyone has gtfoh. You need something better. He doesn’t have anything better. He actually could be scum. I honestly don’t know but that’s a terrible reason to lynch somebody.
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Post Post #655 (isolation #74) » Sun Dec 02, 2018 2:25 pm

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Smh town is going to lose.

request replacement.


None of the PR claims should be lynched today. That’s just straight up common sense.

If both of them are actually town this confirms profli and triv are scum like I said.

Good riddance to this game.
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Post Post #729 (isolation #75) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:35 am

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VOTE: trivium
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Post Post #730 (isolation #76) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:35 am

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In post 718, profii wrote:Doughboy chainsaw defending BEF by attacking people pushing BEF
Fake news
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Post Post #731 (isolation #77) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:36 am

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In post 717, Elbirn wrote:Counterwagons to BEF

1.1: ceejay, profi (depending on how serious you take rvs)
1.6: lolwagons
1.7: Trivium
1.8: trivium
1.9: Drdoolittle

Ceejay, lolwagons, and profi: consistently on BEF at the ending votecounts there.

My gut reaction says the scumpool is *drumroll*

egix/ruby/doughboy/trivium

But I need to think more, this is just off the top of my head. I see these 4 pushing counterwagons to BEF. I have reservations regarding trivium being in that pile due to VC's 1.7 and 1.8 so that's pending review.

More importantly, with ceejay/lolwagons/profi being on BEF super consistently while also being counterwagons at times, I'm feeling really good about them. I feel more concrete about them than I do that scumpool tbh

I need to think this over more but now I need to sleep I think
Why’d you leave off the counter attempt on me?

You sir are fake news
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Post Post #732 (isolation #78) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:40 am

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In post 721, Egix96 wrote:Doughby looks susp to me because he had BEF as lock town and tried to dissuade me from scumreading BEF
Fake news.

I only had him as lock town when I was sure trivium/profli we’re scum. Before that I didn’t have a read on him. And I most certainly did not try from dissuade you from scumnreading him. Not only is that fake news, that’s a bold face lie.
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Post Post #734 (isolation #79) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:42 am

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And shame on you Doolittle. You were supposed to shoot profli or trivium. Why’d you shoot sheep?
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Post Post #736 (isolation #80) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:46 am

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You are more experienced than that. Scum almost never hard defend their buddy. They bus like what you did.
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Post Post #738 (isolation #81) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:56 am

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Just go ahead and lynch me first. I only came back because the mod can’t find a replacement
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Post Post #740 (isolation #82) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 3:27 am

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Cause I’m not a dick. The mod had trouble finding a replacement.
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Post Post #741 (isolation #83) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 3:34 am

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I stand by my scum reads. I stand by my statement that I’m not voting anyone else but trivium. I am not scum. Every accusation made against me today has been false. So if people are going to scum read me for lies, I can’t really help that. It’s no fair to make a replacement have to come in and deal with these lying scum/townies. So I’ll deal with it.

If somebody wants to actually make a legit case for why I’m scum go for it but come up with something better than the lies already posted. The realit is though I’m not scum so anything you can say about me will either just be circumstantial or a lie.

Trivium is scum. I’m betting my life in this game in it.
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Post Post #746 (isolation #84) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:59 am

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In post 744, Elbirn wrote:I'm not a scumbag, but yeah. Be chill.
being lazy makes you a scumbag so i won't chill.

it isn't difficult to remember there was a push on me.
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Post Post #749 (isolation #85) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:06 am

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In post 747, Trivium wrote:VOTE: Doughboy

Chainsaw defense of BEF + hiding behind voting me and not having to say much beyond me. You can already see it. I stated my case for his lynch yesterday and it still applies, time for a doughboy wagon.
Chainsaw defense is a lie. Having my own independent scum reads isn’t a chainsaw scum boi
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Post Post #751 (isolation #86) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:07 am

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In post 748, Trivium wrote:Doughboy was pushed yesterday. I did the pushing right before BEF was lynched.
Was hoping you didn’t have to bus I guess. Good job though. You’ve fooled everyone but me.
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Post Post #752 (isolation #87) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:07 am

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In post 750, Trivium wrote:
In post 749, Doughboy wrote:
In post 747, Trivium wrote:VOTE: Doughboy

Chainsaw defense of BEF + hiding behind voting me and not having to say much beyond me. You can already see it. I stated my case for his lynch yesterday and it still applies, time for a doughboy wagon.
Chainsaw defense is a lie. Having my own independent scum reads isn’t a chainsaw scum boi
You tried to run a counterwagon on me while saying BEF, who we know was scum, was town. That's textbook.
That’s a lie. I didn’t try to run a counter on anyone.
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Post Post #753 (isolation #88) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:10 am

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In post 233, ChibiBear wrote:
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Trivium (4)
- BrightEyedFish, Doughboy, Egix96, PenguinPower
TexdoesHalo (2)
- Trivium, profii
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- Springtrap, TexdoesHalo
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- ceejayvinoya

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Searching for replacement for TexdoesHalo.
Here was the vc after I voted trivium. Bef wasn’t even the lead vote getter. At least if you’re going to falsely accuse me, get the facts straight.

Accuse me of chainsaw defending trivium or trying to get a counter to him. Get the fuck out of here with anything related to bef
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Post Post #755 (isolation #89) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:12 am

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lol actually I think it was tex who was the larger wagon. Anyways it definitely wasn’t bef.

So anyone who has falsely accused me of trying to counter bef owes me an apology
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Post Post #757 (isolation #90) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:13 am

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In post 151, ChibiBear wrote:
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- Springtrap, TexdoesHalo, Doughboy, PenguinPower
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TexdoesHalo has been prodded.
Tex and profli were the ones under pressure on the previous VC.

Y’all fucking apologize for lying and smearing my good name.
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Post Post #758 (isolation #91) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:17 am

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In post 754, Elbirn wrote:
In post 746, Doughboy wrote:
In post 744, Elbirn wrote:I'm not a scumbag, but yeah. Be chill.
being lazy makes you a scumbag so i won't chill.

it isn't difficult to remember there was a push on me.
"Being lazy" is your response to my analysis today that I stayed up late puzzling over, what the fuck have you done today?

Keep acting like a little bitch to me when I'm not even pressuring you, it's a great look for you
Yes. You lazily three somr shit together to cast shade against me.
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Post Post #760 (isolation #92) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:23 am

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In post 759, profii wrote:
In post 743, Trivium wrote:Elbirn you're really staking a lot on lolwagons being town. At this point I agree it's very likely but if lol is scum most of what you said falls apart.
Read back through how we got to the BEF claim, then the DDL counter wagon/claim then back to the BEF Lynch - Lol was either mad bussing on day 1 or he is a glorious beacon of town. He could of actually hammered DDL with no issue - removing a vig which is a big scum risk and didnt. He is basically the night kill tonight because he is lock town.

if you are town and not sure about why LOL is town - read the bit I have just mentioned, come back and ask us about anything you are not sure about and we can explain it - you need to be onboard with LOL town because we need to work together and it's a dead cert.
Where is my apology?
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Post Post #761 (isolation #93) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:24 am

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In post 717, Elbirn wrote:But I need to think more, this is just off the top of my head. I see these 4 pushing counterwagons to BEF.
Apologize please. I never pushed a counter to bef and just proved it.
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Post Post #762 (isolation #94) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:26 am

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In post 747, Trivium wrote:VOTE: Doughboy

Chainsaw defense of BEF + hiding behind voting me and not having to say much beyond me. You can already see it. I stated my case for his lynch yesterday and it still applies, time for a doughboy wagon.
I’m waiting for your apology also.
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Post Post #765 (isolation #95) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:56 am

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In post 764, profii wrote:no one is apologising to you until you admit your BEF read was way off the mark and you are a terrible player
Why do I need to apologize for either of those? Being wrong and new aren’t things anyone needs to apologize for. Blatant lies should be apologized for. Unless you are an asshole and just don’t care about being a nice guy.
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Post Post #766 (isolation #96) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:58 am

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I didn’t even have a read on bef until I was positive you/trivium were scum. I’ll apoogizr if I’m wrong about both of you but that requires you both getting lynched. Bef flipping scum doesn’t disprove my theory.
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Post Post #769 (isolation #97) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:03 am

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I’ll just refer to the 3 of you as Fucking liars until you apologize.
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Post Post #770 (isolation #98) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:04 am

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In post 768, LolWagons wrote:
In post 766, Doughboy wrote:I didn’t even have a read on bef until I was positive you/trivium were scum. I’ll apoogizr if I’m wrong about both of you but that requires you both getting lynched. Bef flipping scum doesn’t disprove my theory.
Not gonna lynch a town read and a leaning town read so you can stop tunneling sorry
I don’t give a fuck what you do. I’m not changing my vote off the fucking liar ever.
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Post Post #771 (isolation #99) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:10 am

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In post 767, LolWagons wrote:but he’s becoming increasingly frustrating to deal with
If these 3 fucking liars don’t apologize I’ll be even more frustrating to deal with.

They flat out lied. They said I chainsaw defended for bef which isn’t true. Bef wasn’t even under suspicion when I pushed a trivium lynch. I don’t appreciate people smearing my good name.
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Post Post #774 (isolation #100) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:22 am

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In post 721, Egix96 wrote:tried to dissuade me from scumreading BEF
Oh yeah. You need to apologize also. This is also a lie
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Post Post #776 (isolation #101) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:28 am

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Why? Because I demand people who lie about me apologize? Sorry. Instead of adding to the problem, why don’t you support me. Tell these fucking liars to apologize
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Post Post #778 (isolation #102) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:31 am

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4 players flat out lied. I proved 3 of them wrong ad the 4th can’t even support his lie with evidence. I’m not dropping it until I get my apologies. So either they apologize or mod will directly interfere with the game and force me to leave. Until one of those things happen, I’m not dropping it.

If they want to call me scum, at least do so with shit I’ve actually done. No need to make up things.
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Post Post #780 (isolation #103) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:32 am

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In post 777, Egix96 wrote:
In post 774, Doughboy wrote:
In post 721, Egix96 wrote:tried to dissuade me from scumreading BEF
Oh yeah. You need to apologize also. This is also a lie
If I'm wrong about you, then I wasn't lying on purpose.
But since you asked nicely, apologies, Doughboy.
There is no evidence to support I was trying to dissuade you at all so you were wrong.

Thank you for apologizing.
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Post Post #781 (isolation #104) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:33 am

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In post 779, LolWagons wrote:I’d prefer you leave
The mod will have to violate site rules and interfere with the game then.
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Post Post #784 (isolation #105) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:44 am

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In post 500, ChibiBear wrote:
VOTE COUNT 1.8
BrightEyedFish
(5): ceejayvinoya, LolWagons, profii, Trivium, Elbirn
L-2

Trivium
(3): Egix96, Doughboy, DrDolittle
LolWagons
(2): BrightEyedFish, Sad Sheep
Ruby Red
(1): Malakitty
Springtrap
(1): Ruby Red

Not Voting
(1): Springtrap

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

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In post 503, Trivium wrote:
In post 486, Doughboy wrote:I’m not asking for one from you. You’re confirmed scum. I’m asking your most likely scum buddy profli to provide something more than the nonsense he posted when he voted. That was worse of a reason than what he says is so bad about my reasons for scum reading him.

Meta > he hopped off a mislynch so he’s probably scum.

Scum want to mislynch. They don’t hop off mislynches.

You both make sense as scum. If you both are town you and mr “I’m scum” all are killing our chances of winning this game.
No dude, I'm town and you are going to kill our chance of winning this game if you don't vote for the obvious scum. You just said that I didn't respond to you, I posted my response, and you said you didn't want to hear me respond to you. Fuck that. You want to vote for me while I'm town and tell me I'm the reason town is going to lose even if I was town? Why are you even considering the idea that I might be town in the first place?

VOTE: Doughboy
See here is trivium hopping off the bef wagon when it gets to l-2. He also made a post after the l-2 vote saying he’d vote dolittle.

Could be he was hoping not to bus? Why omgus vote me and then falsely accuse me of trying to start a counter? If anything he’s trying to get a counter.


Food for thought.
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Post Post #785 (isolation #106) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:46 am

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In post 517, LolWagons wrote:
In post 515, Trivium wrote:
In post 512, LolWagons wrote:
In post 510, Trivium wrote:
In post 506, Trivium wrote:
In post 505, LolWagons wrote:Dammit, Triv. A DB wagon isn't going to happen in 24 hours, we will be lucky to get any lynch.
I don't want to play this game with doughboy. I'm not going to leave or anything, but I'm voting him
Besides I'm starting to believe he really is scum. Tunneling one person all day is a great defense to hide behind, especially because I know I'm town. I don't think I've done anything scummy, and if you notice, he hasn't really justified himself in any way that would satisfy his own conditions of "evidence", he ignores anything substantial that goes against his reads, like completely ignore it. I implore you to take another read through this game and focus on doughboy.
He has put pressure on Profii and you. By your own logic you should be voting BEF because he has tunneled on my slot, except for his one opportunistic vote on you.

And his wagon actually has a chance of leading to a lynch.
Doughboy's wagon also has a chance to lead to a lynch, if you hop on. BEF hsa at least moved around. Doughboy has not. You think he's going to change stances day2? day3? He's already shown himself to be completely and entirely ignorant, nobody has pressured him for this, and I think the lack of pressure on him all day is due to him being scum. It's happening.
Fuck it, hand me the koolaid.

VOTE: Doughboy

I am going to be watching this thread like a fucking hawk. But if we want to do pre-lynch hijinks whatever. I still want my BEF lynch.

If no traction comes of this, which it won't, both yall better be switching back to BEF.
In post 519, Egix96 wrote:I'd rather lynch BEF over Doughboy. I don't think I can bring myself to side with Triv here.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: BrightEyedFish
In post 520, LolWagons wrote:VOTE: Vote Bright Eyed Fish

NOPE Egix has spoken. Both y'all better hop back onto the BEF wagon.
In post 522, profii wrote:VOTE: BEF
In post 524, Trivium wrote:Uggghhhhhh fine but I want a doughboy vote tomorrow if he keeps this up

VOTE: BEF
I get 3 votes on me quick. Trivium/profli/lol (2 of the 3 Fucking liars)

Then profli and trivium go back after more support for bef arrives. Trivium doesn’t seem excited to want to vote bef.

Bef was bussed by trivium.
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Post Post #786 (isolation #107) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:48 am

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In post 233, ChibiBear wrote:
VOTE COUNT 1.5
Trivium (4)
- BrightEyedFish, Doughboy, Egix96, PenguinPower
TexdoesHalo (2)
- Trivium, profii
profii (2)
- Springtrap, TexdoesHalo
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- Elbirn
PenguinPower (1)
- Malakitty
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- DrDolittle
BrightEyedFish (1)
- ceejayvinoya

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: Sad Sheep


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In post 249, BrightEyedFish wrote:@lolwagons

If I read your post right, you are voting me because
someone else
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my
question... Why not vote the person dodging the question if it's that important to you?

and/or

you are voting me for focusing a few posts on a flaking slot? Was I the onl one doing this? Why not give the same suspicion to others talking about it or one's that were actually voting on the wagon.

I guess the vibes people got from tex may have been warranted.

VOTE: LolWagons
Trivium gets 4 votes and bef hops off.

He doesn’t want to bus him. Trivium the fucking liar is probably a scum PR
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Post Post #789 (isolation #108) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:51 am

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Hey Fucking liar. Where is my apology?

Your case for red sucks. I just made a better one for trivium.
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Post Post #791 (isolation #109) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:58 am

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btw I just looked over red's iso and I don't see a hard defense from him. so imo that is a 2nd lie profli has told.
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Post Post #792 (isolation #110) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:59 am

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In post 790, profii wrote:I think doughboys gonna get banned sooner or later

You can’t refer to people as fucking liar for toooo long :lol:
I have not violated any rules to get banned. I can call people who lied fucking liar because it is the truth.
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Post Post #794 (isolation #111) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:00 am

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if I am guilty of site rules for calling you a liar, you are guilty of site rules for lying about me. so we will both get banned.
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Post Post #795 (isolation #112) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:00 am

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In post 793, profii wrote:The more abusive doughboy gets the more I town read him

I think he is so frustrated that he is sabotaging the game on purpose - you essentially can’t do that as scum so he is going all out haha
i am not sabotaging the game though.
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Post Post #796 (isolation #113) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:00 am

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if you are town, you are sabotaging the game
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Post Post #798 (isolation #114) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:01 am

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In post 783, ceejayvinoya wrote:eh just apologize.

It's not like doing that will kill you.
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refusing to apologize for lying is sabotaging the game because 1. you intentionally lied and 2. you are refusing to correct yourself and 3. by refusing to correct yourself you are intentionally pissing off another player
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Post Post #800 (isolation #115) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:10 am

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unintentional doesn't have malice behind it. Your Intentional act does. You are basically trolling the game and me. you want me to be angry to distract people from listening to me because I am right.
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Post Post #802 (isolation #116) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:36 am

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Ok Fucking liar. I’ll avoid you like the plague. You are a person with no morals anyway
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Post Post #805 (isolation #117) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:31 am

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In post 804, Elbirn wrote:He's on my foe list but I still see his posts

How do I get him away? I really don't understand this feature this kinda sucks
Can’t block people in games Fucking liar
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Post Post #810 (isolation #118) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:54 am

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In post 808, Elbirn wrote:Policy lynching doughboy wouldn't appeal to me frankly because I'm here to lynch scum, not carry out vendettas against bad people.

Really think the play is to agree as a group to ignore him until he replaces out again
Like seriously FU. I just provided good evidence to support it’s possible bef/trivium could be scum. Trivium didn’t really want his lynch. That’s the kind of stuff scum does. They bus because they have to.


I have a right to be mad that 4 people lied about me. I was falsely accused of something I absolutely didn’t do. I’m completely justified in asking for these people to apologize and retract their accusations.

Ignoring me when I’m actually playing the game is bullshit. If you’re going to ignore people then you shouldn’t play. You can’t get mad at me cause I caught you in a lie. How about don’t lie?
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Post Post #811 (isolation #119) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:56 am

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In post 809, Elbirn wrote:Why do you tie me to egix, where one of us is scum but only possibly one? It seems like a weird dichotomy and I don't see where it comes from. Walk me through the thought process, I'd like to see your brain working on full display
Oh. You don’t like the fact somebody thinks you can be scum? Imagine that.
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Post Post #815 (isolation #120) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:37 pm

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I’m here. I’m playing. If I didn’t want to be here I’d be gone already.

I’m looking past the fight and I still believe that what I posted day 1 about trivium and the new stuff I posted about him/bef today. He still looks like a good candidate to b scum on the wagon, and yes there will be one if not both scum on the wagon.

Ignore my fighting. Look at trivium/bef for yourself and tell me that it is or isn’t possible for them to be m8s
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Post Post #816 (isolation #121) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:38 pm

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In post 813, Springtrap wrote:To Ruby: You are gaining traction and I'd like to hear your thoughts on the matter, as well as try to show you are townie.

VOTE: Ruby Red
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Post Post #817 (isolation #122) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:40 pm

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In post 801, Elbirn wrote:VOTE: RubyRed
Why?

Y’all need to provide some reasons.
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Post Post #818 (isolation #123) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:41 pm

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In post 772, Egix96 wrote:Yep, looks like we're onto something here.

UNVOTE:
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Post Post #819 (isolation #124) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:42 pm

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In post 735, profii wrote:I think we should go for Ruby Red and call a spade a spade

VOTE: Ruby Red
Besides the “hard defending “ which his iso doesn’t support.

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Post Post #823 (isolation #125) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:45 pm

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In post 822, profii wrote:Trivium pushed BEF hard and continued to do so when he had the chance to move away when wifom crept in. I don’t understand why he’s scummy
Go back and re-read. I guarantee you he didn’t push hard. He hopped off very easily.
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Post Post #829 (isolation #126) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:59 pm

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In post 823, Doughboy wrote:
In post 822, profii wrote:Trivium pushed BEF hard and continued to do so when he had the chance to move away when wifom crept in. I don’t understand why he’s scummy
Go back and re-read. I guarantee you he didn’t push hard. He hopped off very easily.
Hard defended like you said? Absolutely not. That wasn’t a hard defense.
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Post Post #830 (isolation #127) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:01 pm

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In post 825, profii wrote:You’ll need to spell out with quotes how he hopped off
I did already. I showed when he hopped off and how he hopped back on. It doesn’t look like a person who was hard pushing a lynch.
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Post Post #833 (isolation #128) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:18 pm

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In post 831, profii wrote:
In post 824, profii wrote:
Let me rephrase - RR was strongly against a BEF lynch at every oppurtunity

*phone posting - off to fetch quotes*
Let’s stick to the point rather than debate terminology

Being against a lynch is defending your team mate - if you don’t agree that’s fine but you get the point I’m sure
It’s also preferring the lynch of somebody else which town do all the time. There is no way you think that it’s only one sided.
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Post Post #834 (isolation #129) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:18 pm

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In post 832, profii wrote:
In post 830, Doughboy wrote:
In post 825, profii wrote:You’ll need to spell out with quotes how he hopped off
I did already. I showed when he hopped off and how he hopped back on. It doesn’t look like a person who was hard pushing a lynch.
Why was he on BEF come hammer

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Because lol and you went back to him and he wanted to sheep you both.
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Post Post #835 (isolation #130) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:19 pm

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I covered all this.

Attention started forming on somebody else, he hopped off. Attention goes back, he follows the crowd.
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Post Post #839 (isolation #131) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:48 pm

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In post 837, profii wrote:So you think he is buying town cred on day 1

Why not legit use the reasons to push other votes and take your whole team into day 2
He didn’t have any legit reasons. His best push was for tex which was the leading wagon and then fell apart. He didn’t start the bef wagon, I don’t feel he was hard pushing a bef wagon, he hopped off too easily, he only hopped back on when momentum shifted.

That’s how bussing usually goes down. Most scum don’t want to bus but will to make themselves look good.

Idk if I’m right or not. I won’t know until he ever flips. But what I’m saying is definitely possible and it’s something that should seriously be considered regardless of my attitude.
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Post Post #849 (isolation #132) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:44 pm

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Let’s say I ignore trivium and profli for a second. I pretend they are town.

Does Elbirn/spring make any sort of sense as scum?
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Post Post #850 (isolation #133) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:48 pm

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Hmm, They so of do. Damn. I need to read some more.

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I just need time to sort through all of this shhhh stuff.
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Post Post #853 (isolation #134) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:54 pm

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Nah. It’s something new I just learned. When reviewing the ISO’s, yours and elbrin fit the bill. Then I looked at how y’all mentioned each other. Now I want the analyze wagon patterns.

I pretty much have to abandon trivium/profli for now. (Btw I no longer think they are a pair. Trivium scum/profli town perhaps)

So if I remove them from the table you or elbirn are my next in line. I don’t see anything overly town from either of you and the puzzles pieces sort of fit for you 3 as a team.

I’ll decide what to do tomorrow.

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Post Post #854 (isolation #135) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:54 pm

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Side now. Beetle juice like a mother fucker right there. My hairs raised on the back of my neck.
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Post Post #855 (isolation #136) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:55 pm

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Side note*

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Post Post #858 (isolation #137) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:05 pm

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In post 856, Elbirn wrote:I get the impression the spring is mostly...lost and new? He was pretty adamant about BEF end of day tomorrow so theres that, unless you wanna argue that he was coached into bussing. More than anything theres just a lack of content and I have a hard time scumreading that from newbtown
I’m sorry I wasn’t asking you to defend him.
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Post Post #863 (isolation #138) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:34 pm

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In post 861, Springtrap wrote:So I am scum by process of elimination by not doing something overly townie? I have a feeling you are only trying to stage me in as a supplementory role with him to have better evidence against him and not me.

Frankly, I'm only scum in this pairing because you are banking on Elbirn being scum.
Actually I determined who I thought were most likely scum first. Independent of each other. Then I looked to see if the connections makes sense. You can actually see that in my timeline of posting. But nice try.
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Post Post #864 (isolation #139) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:35 pm

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In post 859, Elbirn wrote:Yeah that's really cute babe, but my posts arent directed towards the voice in my head, they're for the world at large. You're not the center of attention here.
Except that post was clearly in response to mine babe.
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Post Post #865 (isolation #140) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:39 pm

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Nobody was asking you your opinion on him. The only one talking about him was the voice in your head.

VOTE: elbirin

I’ll back off my tunnel. I will say just that statement of linking them definitely struck a nerve. That’s also the second time elbirin acted weird when being mentioned as possible scum.
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Post Post #866 (isolation #141) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:39 pm

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Even if we don’t lynch either of them two. Some pressure to see what they do would be interesting.
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Post Post #872 (isolation #142) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:15 am

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That’s what I was saying
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Post Post #874 (isolation #143) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 5:46 am

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In post 868, Egix96 wrote:
In post 818, Doughboy wrote:
In post 772, Egix96 wrote:Yep, looks like we're onto something here.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Ruby Red
Besides this. Why are you voting him?
Are the posts I quoted there not convincing enough for you?
no because I don't know what I am looking at. I don't see what you are trying to point out. You think he scum slipped?
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Post Post #876 (isolation #144) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 5:50 am

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so you don't consider that it is possible at all that he could have bussed? Like no chance at all? or are you disregarding it due to confbias?
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Post Post #879 (isolation #145) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:16 am

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Not completely sold on that but if those 2 are town, I like my other 2 names.
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Post Post #889 (isolation #146) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:57 pm

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In post 883, profii wrote:
In post 880, Malakitty wrote:
In post 877, profii wrote:I heard a rumour Triv is town, ok?
Because this doesn’t feel sketchy at all
Think of it like insider trading - put your life savings on Town!triv
There is a thing I have an issue with but not sure we can discuss now.
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Post Post #915 (isolation #147) » Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:57 am

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Profli with the lies again. Smh. I guess townies lying on this site is a regular occurrence.

VOTE: trivium
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Post Post #940 (isolation #148) » Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:03 am

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At this point I don’t even care if he’s lying but I hope he isn’t. I need Fucking vindication.
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Post Post #949 (isolation #149) » Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:09 am

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In post 946, Trivium wrote:Welp I guess I have to claim now. I was doc and visited profli last night so ?? what's going on here
Roles that change directions like bus driver aren’t allowed in normals. So you are lying or he is.

There is no other option.

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Post Post #961 (isolation #150) » Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:39 am

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@trivium. Sorry if I did anything to upset you. I just play aggressive. Don’t take it personally
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Post Post #962 (isolation #151) » Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:40 am

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This makes 2 games where a dumb townie fakes info on scum. Yeah sure he baited the kill but he ruins his ability to be trusted down the road.
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Post Post #975 (isolation #152) » Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:51 am

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I get people lie it basically claiming a power role is very risky. What if somebody cc’d? Sadly there are others like me who would c. If they were a PR. Thankfully that didn’t happen here.
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Post Post #980 (isolation #153) » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:07 pm

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In post 978, Elbirn wrote:
In post 975, Doughboy wrote:I get people lie it basically claiming a power role is very risky. What if somebody cc’d? Sadly there are others like me who would c. If they were a PR. Thankfully that didn’t happen here.
I think theres a certain way that you lie as town, and profi got it. He didn't say "I'm a cop and trivium is town", he was just kinda slick about it, done in a way with deniability. Yeah an actual investigative role would side-eye him, but without a real fake-claim from profi they'd keep their mouth shut. Like me.

I get what you're saying that its risky. Theres a time to lie and a time not to, I think.
I get trying to bait a kill. I’ve done it. But he basically implied he had an inno on him. Had we not lynched scum, and got to mylo or even lylo, trivium wins
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Post Post #981 (isolation #154) » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:09 pm

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In post 979, Elbirn wrote:
In post 977, LolWagons wrote:El who was your N1 watch
Also profi. I really thought he was getting shot apparently.

I should have watched Doolittle but for some reason I thought a protective role would be on him, so scum would shoot elsewhere...but then I should have watched Doolittle anyway in this scenario to countdown a doctor?

I'm not a brilliant man
Watching him is the right play but I can see why you went another. Always assume no other protections are around when watcher.
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Post Post #989 (isolation #155) » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:17 pm

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Damn if only do shot trivium like he said he was gonna.
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Post Post #990 (isolation #156) » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:18 pm

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In post 988, LolWagons wrote:2-shot vig, watcher, three goons.

I would assume there’s another role in there somewhere.
Me. I was lyncher and trivium was my lynchee
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Post Post #993 (isolation #157) » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:19 pm

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In post 992, LolWagons wrote:
In post 990, Doughboy wrote:
In post 988, LolWagons wrote:2-shot vig, watcher, three goons.

I would assume there’s another role in there somewhere.
Me. I was lyncher and trivium was my lynchee
Hey same with BEF and I
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Post Post #994 (isolation #158) » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:22 pm

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Can’t belive I’m gameless.
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Post Post #1000 (isolation #159) » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:55 pm

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Interesting simple but fun setup
Thank you for modding and sorry for being an ass.

My best friend lost his battle to cancer and it’s been a long 2 years.
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Post Post #1003 (isolation #160) » Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:02 pm

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I’m good. We knew it was happening so the grieving process is much different than a sudden death. I’ve been dealing with irl stuff also but I guess everyone is dealing with stuff.


Just got to remember to dial it back some. I get too into the game.
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Post Post #1031 (isolation #161) » Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:46 am

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I’m afraid to read both threads.
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