Mini 2039: uPicketyPicketyPick Mafia Endgame

[RadiantCowbells]

Then don't expect to be able to win versus me if I'm scum, sadly.

[MariaR]

Can you take your egos else where please

[RadiantCowbells]

I think that what I've said is far more meaningful than just 'ego talk', but okay. I've said my piece and I'm tired of people policy scumreading me thinking it'll get them somewhere.

[Varsoon]

I'm not really following the logic of that I have to consistently townread you as town in order to have credibility when I scumread you.
That's some really awkward elitist meta rubbish that I don't buy into.
If you're scum in this game and I catch that and I get enough people to lynch you, you're caught. Other games don't matter.
Similarly, if you're town this game, it's important for you to foster town unity and catch scum together.
I don't really see you doing that here, but I'm also pretty biased, which is something we can both agree on.
It's whatever.

[Varsoon]

I think that what I've said is far more meaningful than just 'ego talk', but okay. I've said my piece and I'm tired of people policy scumreading me thinking it'll get them somewhere.

Maybe work on some townplay that's not so furtive, abrasive, and rude?
I dunno man.

[Varsoon]

Like if a hundred girls break up with you and you keep going, "Oh jeeze girls nowadays! I'm so tired of them thinking the worst of me! It'll never get them anywhere!" and not realizing, like, maybe the fault is with yourself, you're not gonna do well with relationships moving forward.

[RadiantCowbells]

I hard scumread varsoon's opening wall and I haven't tried to read anything else from him. At some point I've been meaning to do that since if the wall was in fact forced that might explain why it felt ultra forced. I dunno. We'll see.

If you're scum in this game and I catch that and I get enough people to lynch you, you're caught. Other games don't matter.

But you can't. It's hypothetically possible? but you can't. you just can't. can't be done. and repeatedly trying when you can't read me just discredits you the next time you try.

Maybe work on some townplay that's not so furtive, abrasive, and rude?
I dunno man.

The vast majority of people who have a problem with me brought their problem with them. You trying to policy lynch me when you know you can't read me is you bringing your problem with you.

Like if a hundred girls break up with you and you keep going, "Oh jeeze girls nowadays! I'm so tired of them thinking the worst of me! It'll never get them anywhere!" and not realizing, like, maybe the fault is with yourself, you're not gonna do well with relationships moving forward.

You say this but I got the most votes for favourite player to play with last year. I am fine with 'breaking up' with everyone I've 'broken up' with.

[Varsoon]

Like yeah, I don't doubt that I'm a poor judge of your alignment, especially given how disparate our mentalities and approaches are.
That's why I'm not putting a huge amount of stock into my read on you, even if it's something I'm passionate about.

I really don't know what you're trying to get at here besides taunt me and I don't know why you'd want to taunt me if you're town, but, again, that loops back to the start of this post.

[Gamma Emerald]

Then don't expect to be able to win versus me if I'm scum, sadly.

This type of post just makes people want to lynch you in case you really are scum so there’s actually a chance to win

[Varsoon]

Hey, Gamma, wanna policy lynch RC?
VOTE: RC

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm not taunting you at all. I'm telling you that your approach to my slot leads nowhere.
Because of pride you may see me stating that you don't pose a threat to me as an attack but it's not an attack and I don't say it to make you feel worse.
I say it because it's true and because it's something that it would benefit you to understand if you're town.

[RadiantCowbells]

Then don't expect to be able to win versus me if I'm scum, sadly.

This type of post just makes people want to lynch you in case you really are scum so there’s actually a chance to win

won't help though. I'm also amazing at setting up my partners. i've made a point of getting lynched by people who want to policy lynching me several times this year and setting up my partners perfectly to prove it doesn't work. there's no shortcuts here.

[Gamma Emerald]

Hey, Gamma, wanna policy lynch RC?
VOTE: RC

Not before I sort you.

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: Varsoon

aight leggo

[Varsoon]

My thought is that they only wheel this out after their wounded pride in order to make some huge point about them being a great player.
I think it'd be cool if we lynched him anyway, on principle.
Also he's kinda scummy for largely dipping out of the game, I've got an OMGUS read there, and I don't think town gets a day-neighborizer on D1 in this setup.
But uh it's clearly 'cus of personality stuff.
Let's bag 'em?

Unless FB comes in and claims masons/best friends.
Then you guys get him the day before LYLO if FB and RC are still alive
Capiche?

[Varsoon]

Hey, RC
Are you in a PT with Nico?

[RadiantCowbells]

Annie.

[Varsoon]

Like, man, scumread the dude with the wallpost, original 10/10 play

Why do you even mention that partner setup thing as town here?
That's scum WIFOM.
It really shouldn't have any place in your town game.

[Gamma Emerald]

My thought is that they only wheel this out after their wounded pride in order to make some huge point about them being a great player.
I think it'd be cool if we lynched him anyway, on principle.
Also he's kinda scummy for largely dipping out of the game, I've got an OMGUS read there, and I don't think town gets a day-neighborizer on D1 in this setup.
But uh it's clearly 'cus of personality stuff.
Let's bag 'em?

Unless FB comes in and claims masons/best friends.
Then you guys get him the day before LYLO if FB and RC are still alive
Capiche?

Why is a Day Neighborizer something you find unreasonable?

[Varsoon]

Due to the nature of the minigame mechanic--from a design perspective, allowing town to team up gives them an even bigger advantage on a mechanic that, by design, is going to have a majority of town players competing to upgrade their roles while scum don't.
It makes plenty of sense that a part of the counterbalance to the town-sided nature of this mechanic would be to give scum a means of influencing town very early in order to get them to gift the powerups or even collude in minigames.

[RadiantCowbells]

"scumread the guy with the wallpost" like scumreading guys with wallposts is a thing.

[Varsoon]

Like at least that's how I'd design it.

[Varsoon]

Betcha didn't even read my walls.
Go hang out with Elbirn in the 'finding an excuse not to engage with content' table.

[Varsoon]

At least he's not being elusive about it and even if he's scum I won't think he's a prat for his play

[Gamma Emerald]

Due to the nature of the minigame mechanic--from a design perspective, allowing town to team up gives them an even bigger advantage on a mechanic that, by design, is going to have a majority of town players competing to upgrade their roles while scum don't.
It makes plenty of sense that a part of the counterbalance to the town-sided nature of this mechanic would be to give scum a means of influencing town very early in order to get them to gift the powerups or even collude in minigames.

Depends on whether the town’s reads are on point though? They could pick a scum and end up playing into scum’s hands
Plus scum can already collide with themselves, you seriously think scum would have more ability to control the mini games? I personally think neighborizing abilities are NAI but let’s go down this rabbit hole.