Micro 836: Jester Nightless Game Over

[Michael Scott]

BOTH of our heads can't be Michael Scott, so this head is gonna sign with "Jimothy".
(Obligatory: "Identity theft is not a joke, Jim! Millions of families suffer every year!")

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

We were considering Michael Scarn, Date Mike, Prison Mike, but it's gonna be confusing when people want to refer to just one of us.
And abbreviations ("TRMS") are ew.

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

Using MY quotes, the worst? One more time and I'm gonna refer to you as "Toby".



~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

Actually, I'm gonna call you Toby anyway, because Toby's the worst and we all know that.
VOTE: Toby

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

*Sigh*

So who's the other head, Toby?

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

Michael Scott is the best.

VOTE: The Worst

But Toby is worse than the Worst.

VOTE: Toby is a horrible person

Anyone who does not immediately join my Toby wagon should be treated as confirmed scum.

- Date Mike

[Michael Scott]

Damnit Dwight, I needed those TPS reports

yesterday

!

Dwight might be scum with Toby here. He has been gunning for my regional manager job... but I'm sure Toby is putting him up to it.

I'm townreading Stanley, Phyllis, Kevin, Jim, Pam, and David Wallace at the moment. Andy is a nullread for me, because he is always trying to kiss my ass!

[Michael Scott]

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Tinfoil theory: What if The Worst is actually Toby?

[Michael Scott]

@Date Mike, let's give Dwight some time to prove his loyalty. At least he might be genuine, unlike that suckup Andy.

I'm townreading Phyllis right now, what do you think?

HEAL: Phyllis

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

Only TOBY would bring this up....... the pain....... I would..... rather ...... be lynched....... than ever........ go through..... that........ again

- Date Mike

[Michael Scott]

I think you floated that one already (along with yelling it twice in the previously mentioned video)

You're on the wrong track.

Side note: "Scranton Strangler" flavor for an SK if we ever have a The Office themed game.

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

Jimothy I'm seriously getting strong Toby vibes from this The Worst guy. I mean toby IS The Worst, and Michael Scott doesn't believe in coincidences.

- Date Mike

[Michael Scott]

Wanna co-design one down the track? :3

~ not Toby

I'm certainly down for that.
Also stop lying, you ARE Toby plskthx

Pedit: Vibes? It's fact. Toby IS the worst. Where's the contradiction?

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

Ok TW/Toby, were on to you, GTFO and go back to Costa Rica and don't ever come back!

[Michael Scott]

Why did Toby have to come back from Costa Rica and ruin everything?

- Date Mike

[Michael Scott]

Look bro I may be the worst but I'm not THAT bad..... :///

You've ruined everything, now Michael Scott must destroy you and everything you stand for.

[Michael Scott]

@Jimothy we may need to replace Dwight and find a new Assistant to the Regional Manager. Anyone on this playerlist strike you as a good candidate? Maybe we need to hold interviews.

Definitely not The Worst AKA Toby

[Michael Scott]

@Toby: FWIW, if someone on this list doesn't like The Office, they're far more Toby than you are. Nuthin' personal.

@Date Mike: First person to sheep us on to Toby is Dwight!

I'm really waiting for the game to start so I can apply wagonomics and find scum! ^_^

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

^Found Todd Packer.

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

Jimothy is pretty wolfy

Only Toby would dare accuse Michael Scott of being wolfy.

- Date Mike

[Michael Scott]

I love Todd Packer! He's such a cool dude and he never makes jokes at my own expense.

- Date Mike

[Michael Scott]

- Date Mike

[Michael Scott]

what a fun player list. HUGE fan of michael scott and the office

Found our Ryan <3

VOTE: Toby

Wanna sheep us on this

totally random

vote?

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

quack quack quack quack quack.

quack quack quack.

VOTE: quack

quack quack! quack...

VOTE: quack

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

VOTE: Suka

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

Yep, she is.
I was gonna suggest PLing Yes_Mafia, but I think the other head may be sortable.

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

That player regardless of alignment is gonna play like a Jester.
It's a variable we'd prolly be better off without, if the other head wasn't there.

Maybe we should just lunch the obvious VTs every day to make sur we're not hitting the Jester. Amirite?

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

Also, this is one of those instances where Village and Mafia can work together.
@Mafia: One of you could give yourselves up for a lunch, so we kill you instead of the Jester instead. Any mafia goon willing to sacrifice themselves?

[Michael Scott]

We don't lunch The_Worst, he's probably jester at this point.

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

Also, anon hydras are too inconvenient. I'm the Jimothy head, hi Nancy Drew!

Hey. Tell me why I signed up for this, again.

Hoping to roll Jester, obviously.
Disappointed?

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

VOTE: Yes Mafia

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

VOTE: Kent and Sain

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

Stop voting for him, he's probably the Jester.

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

I'm literally not

lynch me then someone else obvtown so the jester disappears then just find teh scumz

If you're making such a noble sacrifice, then vote yourself right now

I think we may have found our jester?

I mean the worst, obviously.

I'm 90% sure TW is Jester, or he's scum faking Jester.

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

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We seem a bit decisive. Are we waiting till day 4 to lynch scum or doing it now?
Put it to a vote. This isnt an alignment indicative thing, this is just to make us all try to be on the same page.
I VOTE: Find scum

Itd be boring otherwise

Scummy players can also be the Jester, it's more useful killing the townie players today and tomorrow.
We can clear some players of scum right away from the Yes Mafia wagon, so it's wise to wait for D4.

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

Considering ceejay voted him first, THEN he voted himself, it seems stupid for ceejay to let his partner suicide like that. I'll take that as confirmation he isn't mafia, but a jester debate is still open.

Bambietta is town.

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

The duo is about to be on L-1 soon, jeez.

I dont want to vote Kent/Slain without confirming it isn't the jester first. Dont want to let them self hammer.

UNVOTE:

These are for not hammering while being online correct? I unfortunately did not think my cohort was on, who I would preferred to take the action of hammering between the two of us.
-Kent

This is scum.

Okay. That post did ping me a bit but I guess I just dismissed it.

VOTE: Kent and Sain

Nancy is town.

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

I'm literally not
lynch me then someone else obvtown so the jester disappears then just find teh scumz

If you're making such a noble sacrifice, then vote yourself right now

Vote the worst pls

Town.

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

VOTE: Kent and Sain

You think I'm bold enough to try this as Jester?

Kent won't be happy about this one.

~Sain

These are for not hammering while being online correct? I unfortunately did not think my cohort was on, who I would preferred to take the action of hammering between the two of us.
-Kent

We seem a bit decisive. Are we waiting till day 4 to lynch scum or doing it now?
Put it to a vote. This isnt an alignment indicative thing, this is just to make us all try to be on the same page.
I VOTE: Find scum

Itd be boring otherwise

My opinion is that it is wiser to avoid the jester but lynching obvious town isn't the first course of action we should take given multiple options. The best course of action, I believe, is to lynch those with low chance of being jester and high chance of being scum.
-Kent

Scum/Jester.

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

Yes Mafia (anonymous hydra)

theslimer3*
Nancy Drew 39
Bambietta Basterbine
Michael Scott

ceejayvinoya
Suka*

Kent and Sain (Gamma Emerald + Flavor Leaf)
the worst

We kill Nancy Drew 39 and theslimer3 (obvtown) today and tomorrow; then go for TW and K&S in that order.
Everyone cool with this?

VOTE: Nancy Drew 39

[Michael Scott]

Why not?

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

I don't believe in killing teammates. Lynch scum, please!

Who looks scummy to you?
The Jester would try to look scummy and get lynched; therefore killing towny people's better yeah?

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

VOTE: Michael Scott

This is like lockMaf. Those reads and trajectory setup is some of the most scummy things I’ve ever seen.

~inSain

This guy is definitely Toby AKA scum.

- Date Mike

[Michael Scott]

Haha Nancy spotted it before I did.
"Political reads" and forgets that N_M already flipped town, scum could fake that slip though.

The blame thing makes no sense -- I'm accountable for my reads, obviously. How would giving a reads list absolve me of blame?

I'll be fine to eat up the Lynch as a VT -- Nancy next because she's obwtown, then if TW survives kill him.


~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

Why aren’t you scumhunting?

I already did. Did you look at the reads list I posted?

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

Jester is gonna look vaguely scummy on purpose today -- anything solid we get may end up with us killing the Jester. It's better strategy to nail scum on D4.

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

I wouldn't lynch Michael today, he's too wolfy.

That's cool.
Give us a reads list, who do you think is obvtown?
You agree with lynching Nancy and theslimer3.

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

?* I'm not putting words in your mouth.

[Michael Scott]

I wouldn't lynch Michael today, he's too wolfy.

I don’t think the jester would try to push a wagon on me, do you?

That's TW setting me up for a D4 ML, I think this comes from scum!TW more than jester!TW -- look at his ISO, he's been on the "Jimothy is Wolfy" agenda even before the game started.

[Michael Scott]

I wouldn't lynch Michael today, he's too wolfy.

I don’t think the jester would try to push a wagon on me, do you?

Also, why'd you vote me? I'm not scumreading you, I'm voting you because you look obvtown to me.

If you disagree that we should lynch towny people, I'll be happy to convince you that we should.

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

I'm literally not
lynch me then someone else obvtown so the jester disappears then just find teh scumz

just lynch 2 people who read as tryhard ezpz
auro killed my WIM too early

Then why aren't you voting Nancy with me, TW?

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

To town I'm not a superior lynch because I could very well do what I've been doing as Jester.
Also, by all means go ahead and Lynch me -- I'm VT, so if we lynch you next night, Jester suicides. Remember my reads when I'm gone, though.

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

Michael is unlikely to be jester but has a much greater likelihood of flipping scum. Hence, you’re an optimal vote here.

What makes you think I'm scum?

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

TW prolly thought before the game: "I'm gonna do a NotMaf and act like the jester even if I don't roll jester! "

[Michael Scott]

Sure. Do you agree that Nancy is obvtown? If not, who is? Why aren't you voting there?

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

Michael is unlikely to be jester but has a much greater likelihood of flipping scum. Hence, you’re an optimal vote here.

What makes you think I'm scum?

~Jimothy

Nancy, if you think I'm scum for following a strategy, convince me that the strategy sux. If you agree with the strategy, you should be okay getting lynched. It's not against win con as VT to get lynched and prevent a jester lynch.

I'm not Jester, I'd be a lot more political and obvtowny -- Kent&Sain saying I look political is funny.

I'm not scum, because I'm okay with a lynch on me. Scum wouldn't, considering one of them's already out.

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

Michael is unlikely to be jester but has a much greater likelihood of flipping scum. Hence, you’re an optimal vote here.

What makes you think I'm scum?

~Jimothy

You’re clearly more likely than me.

Why?

[Michael Scott]

Isn’t that the entire basis of your argument, that I’m more obvtown than you?

So, why then are you fighting this so hard? Only one reason, I can think of.

Questioning ≠ fighting. Just because I believe something doesn't mean I can't question you for that, agree?

Where am I fighting my lynch, after repeatedly saying I'd be happy?

[Michael Scott]

I'm on board with that, given you're the lunch tomorrow -- agree?

[Michael Scott]

their wagon on you sux and is antagonistic tho I'm pretty sure that's the kind of thing jesters do here so they get lynched d3

Lol. Okay, the wagon sux -- who should we lunch today?

[Michael Scott]

And if you think it sux, either you don't think Nancy is obvtown, or you don't think we should lunch an obtown -- which is it?

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

@Jingle: Requesting a Hydra QT.

[Michael Scott]

And if you think it sux, either you don't think Nancy is obvtown, or you don't think we should lunch an obtown -- which is it?

~Jimothy

this is a clear misrepresentation, read my conversation with Nancy. I was saying that the way you pushed her was gross, and was not saying either of those things.

What is "gross" about the way that @Jimothy is pushing for Nancy's lynch? He already explained that he wants to lynch obvtown today.

- Date Mike

[Michael Scott]

I'm literally not
lynch me then someone else obvtown so the jester disappears then just find teh scumz

I don't care that you find my push on her gross.

It's not a misrep -- logically, if you believe that
1. Nancy is obvtown;
2. We should lynch obvtown;
then the conclusion you should arrive to is that 3. It's okay to lynch Nancy today.

So if you do NOT arrive at that conclusion (and you haven't voted for her), you HAVE to either not believe 1 or 2, and I'm asking which one.
If you believe both, then why does 3 not follow from 1 and 2?

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

Isn’t that the entire basis of your argument, that I’m more obvtown than you?

Which is why, to TOWN, who knows neither of our alignments, you're the better lynch.
TW clearly disagrees with you when you say I can't be jester -- what do you think?

If I do get lynched today, the game doesn't end (because I'm town): Are you okay being the lynch tomorrow?

I'd like to hear the rest of the town's opinions on this. I'll simplify the strategy, if town is at all fixed on lynching me:
1. Lynch me today; I flip town.
2. Lynch obvtown so there's NO chance of a jester lynch in D3, i.e. Nancy; (While also using this time to find scum)
3. Scumhunt and nail whoever was acting jester-y in the previous days

If anyone has a problem with this, let me know.

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

If town thinks I'm

scum

,

Cool, we're on the same team then. We BOTH don't want to lynch the Jester; therefore:
1. Lynch Nancy today; (Obvtown and I'm scum anyway, no?)
2. Lynch someone else obvtown tomorrow; (theslimer3 preferably)
3. Deal with me in D4.

If town thinks I'm

jester

,

1. Lynch Nancy today; (Obvtown and she's not me)
2. Lynch someone else obvtown tomorrow; (theslimer3 preferably)
3. I die D4, scumhunt then.

Regardless

of what you think my alignment is, optimal strategy here is to lynch obvtown -- so if Nancy isn't obvtown, state it, else vote for her.

[Michael Scott]

And what do you two think of 294? If I'm not jester and you think I'm scum, and do lynch me today, are you fine going ahead with the plan outlined there?
Why/why not?

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

NM flipped scum but you could totally fake that too. And while I don't really see the reads as political the way you're acting on them is 100% political.

How on earth is that "political", when it's so blatant and apparently NO ONE is reacting to it positively, YET I keep pushing it? You do know what "political" means, right?

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

And what do you two think of 294? If I'm not jester and you think I'm scum, and do lynch me today, are you fine going ahead with the plan outlined there?
Why/why not?

~Jimothy

I am opposed to lynching obvtown as described above.
-Kent

So you want to lynch someone who looks scummy - which means a good chance of hitting the Jester, instead of letting that resolve itself after a couple lynches. Hurray. Way to let the Jester win.

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

I think if the worst is saying your vote sucks he wants to vote you.
-Kent

And yet he's not, and thinks I could be jester -- what does that mean?

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

@Jingle: Requesting a Hydra QT.

So this is actually what disturbs me the most about Michael Scott. Why didn't they get one before now? This is probably angleshooting but I think this indicates they are scum.
-Kent

Because we had Discord, and my other head wasn't responding there, and this was a more comfortable medium.
Does that answer satisfy you?
Also, you want to lynch scummy non-Jester people, right? So your vote should be on me, no?

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

Town and scum are not the same team. This is a gross appeal.

Effectively, at the moment, scum and town are -- the goal is to NOT let the jester get lynched.
Which you disagree with, since you want to go ahead and lynch scummy players.
Which I find derpy.

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

Lynch this xith fire, kthanx.

This is scum.

Sure -- and after I flip VT (Which you think WILL NOT happen), you're the next lynch. How 'bout that?

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

It's designed to make you look as good as possible. How people react to a political play does not discredit the fact it was in fact political. You continuing to argue it is because you ditching it would validate the accusations towards you.

You think I was expecting people to crown me and praise me with that blatant plan post, going "Ohh Michael you're sooo correct, let's follow your plan!"?
I would argue for my plan anyway; why does that even matter?

VOTE: Michael Scott

This is like lockMaf. Those reads and trajectory setup is some of the most scummy things I’ve ever seen.

~inSain

-Kent

Ah, cool. Now, before I flip, I want to reach a conclusion about the "We should lynch people who are scummy" argument of yours.

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

Is it even occuring to you ye, that’s your uber agressive push on me is blatant scumclaimng?

The fact that you had me as your 1st choice in BOTH scenarios, was a dead giveaway. No freaking way are you VT here, or jester.

You're the first choice in both scenarios FOR TOWN.
No one's really convinced me that we shouldn't lynch townie people till the Jester is dead.

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

There is no way lynching me ever makes sense, in the first scenario, and you just scumclaimed.

Yes, it does. If town thinks I'm scum, it also means I could be a jester being great at scum, therefore my lynch TO TOWN is sub-optimal, and I should be dealt with D4 when it's not possible that I'm Jester any more.
My point being WHOEVER town thinks is scum, it's a possibility that they may be Jester; therefore town should kill someone TOWNY.

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

How am I ever the first choice if you’re scum? Oh and fyi, next time you roll scum, you might want to read George Orwell’s 1984. It’s a fascinating quickread, I promise. You’ve outed yourself as scum by pushing me as a lynch in scenario 1. There is no way town or jester, ever makes this kind of post.

Have you not understood my previous post?
If you're appearing towny, you're a great first choice if I'm scum TO TOWN, because I could be a jester doing what I did to get scumread.
Which part of this confuses you?

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

You're just shouting "You're scum!!", "You scumclaimed by pushing for me in scenario 1!!!" without actually explaining it

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

Why are you so opposed to being the lynch - especially in scenario 1?

I am NOT opposed to being the lynch, god.
I'm saying that's the best strategy for town. Check scenario 0, the post before that, where I say I'm fine being lynched and the strategy to follow if I'm lynched.

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

Nothing because you not the jester, you’re outted scum.

@Everyone, remember this after my flip.

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

It makrs 0 sense to lynch ovbtown over likely scum in scenario 1. If you were actually town here, you would have advocated lynching YOU in scenario 1 and me, in 2. That would actually make logical sense.

Jester probably advocates self in both scenarios and town does in only 2. Scum does in neither or they avoid making this kind of list in the first place and don’t make this type of gross push before scum is found.

If you’re not scum, prove it!

Wait. Nancy, there's a misunderstanding here -- if I explain in more detail, are you open to changing your mind?

~Jimothy

(Also inb4 Kent calls this post political)

[Michael Scott]

There is no way, town!you ever thinks I’m a better lynch than you in scenario 1. You are fighting this way too hard if you are either town or jester.

In scenario 1, I'm scum, but town doesn't *truly* know my alignment.
I was advising town's safest strategy in the case I am scum.
*Of course* if I'm scum, town wins fastest if I'm the lynch -- but it's not the safest strategy for them when they don't know whether I'm scum (or) jester.
Agree?

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

What is there to explain? In scenario 1, your lynch is clearly more optimal than mine. Sorry fam but you just scumslipped.

"In the universe where X, the best strategy for town is S"
"In the universe where Y, the best strategy for town is S"
"In the universe where Z, the best strategy for town is S"
"Therefore, S is the optimal strategy"

[Michael Scott]

What is there to explain? In scenario 1, your lynch is clearly more optimal than mine. Sorry fam but you just scumslipped.

Okay, so if I flip town, what would you make of my "strategy"?
Do you agree you're a good lynch for the next day?

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

Also,

PLEASE DON'T LOLHAMMER

me, give intent -- there's an ending post I'd like to make before going.

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

You are fighting this way too hard if you are either town

I'm fighting it hard because you're refusing to listen.

[Michael Scott]

If anyone OTHER than you were making this argument, it wouldn’t be bs.

"Tunnel"

[Michael Scott]

Riiight and this is about as persuasive as a player self- metacasing themselves. What aren’t you getting about this?

Separate the argument from the arguer -- judge the argument on its own merit.

[Michael Scott]

I think you’re trying to trick me here. If I say yes, than that helps further your “obvtown” push on me, and if I say no, then you’ll probably flail some more. Why don’t we just lynch you and let town decide that post-flip?

That's fair -- but it's clear I'm getting lynched for it anyway, and I don't think town's gonna pay heed once I flip, so I want to hear it now.

[Michael Scott]

If you get lynched, I’m still in this game, so this argument is hillariously lolbad.

Um, you're still in the game, which is why you're a good lynch the next day?

[Michael Scott]

Sorry, not playing this game with you.

"Tunnel"

[Michael Scott]

Refusing honest engagement because you're tunnelled on me being scum, which I'm not. I'll explain what I was trying to say post-game.

[Michael Scott]

I'd like to hear the rest of the town's opinions on this. I'll simplify the strategy, if town is at all fixed on lynching me:
1. Lynch me today; I flip town.
2. Lynch obvtown so there's NO chance of a jester lynch in D3, i.e. Nancy; (While also using this time to find scum)
3. Scumhunt and nail whoever was acting jester-y in the previous days

If anyone has a problem with this, let me know.

[Michael Scott]

VOTE: Kent and Sain

You think I'm bold enough to try this as Jester?

Kent won't be happy about this one.

~Sain

These are for not hammering while being online correct? I unfortunately did not think my cohort was on, who I would preferred to take the action of hammering between the two of us.
-Kent

We seem a bit decisive. Are we waiting till day 4 to lynch scum or doing it now?
Put it to a vote. This isnt an alignment indicative thing, this is just to make us all try to be on the same page.
I VOTE: Find scum

Itd be boring otherwise

My opinion is that it is wiser to avoid the jester but lynching obvious town isn't the first course of action we should take given multiple options. The best course of action, I believe, is to lynch those with low chance of being jester and high chance of being scum.
-Kent

Scum/Jester.

~Jimothy

I'm literally not

lynch me then someone else obvtown so the jester disappears then just find teh scumz

If you're making such a noble sacrifice, then vote yourself right now

I think we may have found our jester?

I mean the worst, obviously.

I'm 90% sure TW is Jester, or he's scum faking Jester.

~Jimothy

Yes Mafia (anonymous hydra)

theslimer3*
Nancy Drew 39
Bambietta Basterbine
Michael Scott

ceejayvinoya
Suka*

Kent and Sain (Gamma Emerald + Flavor Leaf)
the worst

We kill Nancy Drew 39 and theslimer3 (obvtown) today and tomorrow; then go for TW and K&S in that order.
Everyone cool with this?

VOTE: Nancy Drew 39

VOTE: Michael Scott

This is like lockMaf. Those reads and trajectory setup is some of the most scummy things I’ve ever seen.

~inSain

This guy is definitely Toby AKA scum.

- Date Mike

[Michael Scott]

Why does scum push slots, they think are likely to be scum/jester?

It’s obviously in scum’s best interest, to kill off all of the obvtown first, so they can hide behind the scummy jester at endgame.

That’s why you’re hardpushing me, isn’t remotely townie but does confirm, you’re extremely unlikely to be jester.

It's in town's best interest to *not* kill the Jester, and therefore lynch townie people. TW said it was close to optimal strategy -- I can link you to games where people who flipped VT said it.

[Michael Scott]

That isn’t what I asked you. How is it in Mafia’s interest NOT to lynch obvtown?

It's in both Mafia and Town's interest to lynch obvtown. When did I say it's not?

[Michael Scott]

Quote?

[Michael Scott]

I said lynch K&S after the Jester suicide, what's wrong with that?

[Michael Scott]

TW, don't go away!

[Michael Scott]

Btw of course we see the optimal way to play the game. We're just being strategic. As I've said, having a bunch of scummy players after day 4 would be pretty eh without a townie anchor.

No lol, your strategy is derp, if you're gonna lynch a scummy player and it turns out they were jester, you lose.

[Michael Scott]

I agree. Scum wants to hide behind jester and vice-versa. This kill obvtown strategy that Michael and the worst are proposing, are going to lead to a situation where the remaining towns mislynch.

If we can figure out scum from jester, then ez game.

Yeaaahh but the strategy only works till D4, whoever was acting wolfy and still survived, lynch and win! God. What's so hard to understand?

[Michael Scott]

You know how I hate to be manipulated. So, why tf did you even think for a moment, that wouldn’t horribly backfire on you?

You're not being manipulated by TW.

[Michael Scott]

I don’t think I want to be in this game anymore.

You're not being bullied or manipulated, Nancy.
Also, does that imply you're fine being the lynch today?

[Michael Scott]

t's not laziness, its forward thinking. And from the way you're acting, your sporadic attitude and self referential nature to the game just seems overly scummy.

These......are towntells.......

"Lynch Nancy and theslimer successively"
-Jimothy, 2018

[Michael Scott]

I never really get used to being told I come across as manipulative and it still feels exhausting.

FIRSTLY, the worst, quack quack.
I'm sorry if my obnoxious persona pissed you off, I'm the frickin Michael Scott , I can change my tone if that helps.

~Jimothy

[Michael Scott]

Also, there's a good possibility that's scum!Nancy using AtE. She's quite good at that from games I've read. I was holding the possibility of her being scum for a long time, I'll quote the Hydra PT later.
What's she's *not*, tho, definitely, is Jester.

[Michael Scott]

yeah, let's not go outside because we could get hit by a car!

No.
"Let's go outside once the tornado goes away!"

[Michael Scott]

"Let's game throw by lynching the jester because I want to kill scummy people no matter what, even if it costs me the game! Jester, here's your easy peasy win! " -You

[Michael Scott]

"there's a tornado outside, if we lunch the jester we get killed in the tornado, so let's kill town! "

[Michael Scott]

"Let's game throw by lynching the jester because I want to kill scummy people no matter what, even if it costs me the game! Jester, here's your easy peasy win! " -You

You’re not the jester.

Which is why I'm fine being a lynch, but you're prolly gonna derp-tunnel and derp-lynch the Jester tomorrow.
Optimal jester strategy is to call you a good lunch. They do that and boom, you hammer them and lose.

[Michael Scott]

Well hello there Date Mike!
Jingle, keep hosting Jester games, I love them xD

Anyway, wanted to note here that I'm actually suspecting Nancy of being scum -- she was conspicuously off the Yes Mafia wagon, and seems to abhor the idea of being lynched as an "obvtown".

TW seems like the Jester, Kent&Sain are prolly town because of their slip.

Yeah TW is definitely not a good lynch, I think there is a high likelihood of him being either scum or jester.

Interesting theory about Nancy. You've been advocating for lynching obvtown in the thread -- aside from our own slot, who else would you be comfortable lynching today?

I think the challenge here is distinguishing scum from jester. Are there certain players that you could see as either being town or scum, but definitely NOT jester? I think in terms of reads, that's the most important thing at the moment -- identifying players who are definitely not the jester. This is my first time playing this type of game mode, so I'm not really sure what strategy the jester will be applying here. At the most basic level, there is the assumption that the jester would want to get heavily scumread to help them get lynched, but then again the jester might anticipate this, and actually try to town it up to throw everyone off (especially since, as you suggested yourself, lynching obvtown is actually a really good strategy in this game, especially since half of the scumteam has been eliminated). So it's very possible that the jester is among the "obvtown" players as opposed to the more null or scummy players.

So who do you think is

legitimate

"obvtown" in this game, or at least "obvnotjester"? Those are the players that we need to identify.

Should we test your Nancy theory by trying to hard push for her lynch today? If Nancy is scum and we get lynched today, she might be able to avoid a lynch on day 3 by continuing to establish herself as "obvtown" and making the argument that the group should lynch someone who is "obvnotjester" yet also "not obvtown" (her reasoning for lynching us today as opposed to herself).

So if Nancy is scum, if she takes us out today, she just has to avoid that "obvtown" lynch on day 3. Then on day 4 the jester suicides, and at that point the game reverts back to the normal "lynch the scummiest player" routine, and she can just coast on her "obvtown" status and win the game.

So the point is, if Nancy is scum and we get lynched today, that is going to seriously jeopardize our chances of winning this game, as I don't know that we can trust this group to "follow our wishes" and auto lynch Nancy on day 3. All she really has to do as scum on day 3 is convince the group that lynching the most obvtown player is a bad strategy, and identify a player that is "obvnotjester" but also "not obvtown" and push for that players lynch (as she is doing to us right now).

I don't think we should advocate for our own lynch today, I think we need to stay in the game longer.

Nancy's convinced we're not jester because we were aggressively pushing her wagon -- it's unexpected for a jester to campaign for two other lynches on successive days, so I can see where she's coming from. The biggest reason I'm scumreading Nancy is because of her push against lynching her, and the lack of vote in D1.

It's actually fine if we get lynched as long as town follows our plan afterwards -- something I'll personally iron out with the rest of the slots in case we do. Our ending post would be "KILL NANCY, TRUST US" in caps. If she fights it too much in D3, that makes her more scumspect.

My reads list I posted are my actual thoughts, save Nancy's green. What do you think? What do you make of my last two posts?

[Michael Scott]

If you're upset because I'm playing the game, what can I do?

[Michael Scott]

TW, the good part is -- one of us survive, if you're not Jester, so please consider the Hydra quotes I pasted above.

[Michael Scott]

Legitimately beyond disgusting, these posts. Who takes such callous advantage of 2 friends who are genuinely hurting? Seriously, who tf does this?

Your being hurt doesn't mean I should stop pushing you? Also, the remotely tiny chance that you actually saw reason and were okay with a lynch, since it's GOOD for town to get lynched?

[Michael Scott]

I asked TW, not you.

[Michael Scott]

Also, you did use AtE as scum in the past, so I don't really buy it.

[Michael Scott]

TW, if you're up and want to engage honestly, I am.
Read my Hydra PT posts -- I think it's a good possibility that Nancy is scum, too, for the survivalist attitude, and she'd definitely not react *this* way to a push on her as jester.
Would you be okay lynching her tomorrow? And even if I do make it to D4, whatever -- kill me then, there's one more ML, I think town should lunch someone between you and K&S if you're still alive.

[Michael Scott]

I was referring to my Hydra PT, which I quoted from, where we were deliberating over the possibility of you being scum.

[Michael Scott]

I was referring to my Hydra PT, which I quoted from, where we were deliberating over the possibility of you being scum.

What is blatantly obvious is that you have never read any of my scumgames on here.

My scumcase on you isn't meta related.

[Michael Scott]

Damnit, I read the first page rules and didn't find one which banned quoting Hydra PTs -- is it not?

[Michael Scott]

Crap, crap, mod -- delete the posts, please, I just read the rule.

[Michael Scott]

I mean functionally I could've pasted from discord chat too, is that banned as well?

[Michael Scott]

Right. @Mod, what happens now?

[Michael Scott]

I'll stop posting till the mod takes action -- I think a modkill should be fair in this scenario, too -- I'll post again if the mod allows it.

[Michael Scott]

I understand, apologies - I didn't post them with the intent of being read for it. A modkill is totally warranted.