Micro 836: Jester Nightless Game Over
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I cannot believe that I’m the serious one and even I found the joke funny.
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In post 209, Gamma Emerald wrote:
I’m stealing that face ò.óIn post 183, the worst wrote:I didn't know your reputation nor realise it was a NM hydra
also I kinda love NM
the main mistake was joining a jester game ó.ò
My sincerest apologies. I let myself go a little bit there.
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As for this you were voting us before I asked that question so do you have any preceding logic or did you simply falsify your read at that point?In post 191, Suka wrote:Vote Kent, please!- Kent and Sain
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My opinion is that it is wiser to avoid the jester but lynching obvious town isn't the first course of action we should take given multiple options. The best course of action, I believe, is to lynch those with low chance of being jester and high chance of being scum.In post 222, theslimer3 wrote:We seem a bit decisive. Are we waiting till day 4 to lynch scum or doing it now?
Put it to a vote. This isnt an alignment indicative thing, this is just to make us all try to be on the same page.
I VOTE: Find scum
Itd be boring otherwise
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I disagree with this sentiment. This is why a jester would say this. But you’re right, i don’t think he’s jester anyways.In post 164, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Now, I think the jester wouldn’t say lynch me, so I think tw is more likely to be scum than the jester.
VOTE: the worst
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Why? She just jumped to a conclusion then realized it into an Unvote? If she’s Jester that’s a fruedian slip that we’ll only see post game.
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This also pushes him to not have any blame no matter what as there are multiple lynch paths that can sprout from this, and if people flip town, it doesn’t look bad on him. This actually makes it less likely that nancyor slimer are his scum partner, though.In post 230, Michael Scott wrote:Yes Mafia (anonymous hydra)
theslimer3*
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Kent and Sain (Gamma Emerald + Flavor Leaf)
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We kill Nancy Drew 39 and theslimer3 (obvtown) today and tomorrow; then go for TW and K&S in that order.
Everyone cool with this?
VOTE: Nancy Drew 39
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Nah feels too efforty to be jesterIn post 248, Suka wrote:I agree that Michael's jestery.
Definitely agree with my ally that he seems scummy
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Wildly distracting from the point. Your read list is irrelevant. The fact you're aiming towards townreads absolves you from guilt because that was your goal the entire time. Given that it's a nightless setup having obvtown hurts the scum a lot more than a game with nightkills.In post 254, Michael Scott wrote:Haha Nancy spotted it before I did.
"Political reads" and forgets that N_M already flipped town, scum could fake that slip though.
The blame thing makes no sense -- I'm accountable for my reads, obviously. How would giving a reads list absolve me of blame?
I'll be fine to eat up the Lynch as a VT -- Nancy next because she's obwtown, then if TW survives kill him.
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NM flipped scum but you could totally fake that too. And while I don't really see the reads as political the way you're acting on them is 100% political.
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I am opposed to lynching obvtown as described above.In post 297, Michael Scott wrote:And what do you two think of 294? If I'm not jester and you think I'm scum, and do lynch me today, are you fine going ahead with the plan outlined there?
Why/why not?
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The amount of self-meta is very disturbing.In post 274, Michael Scott wrote:
Nancy, if you think I'm scum for following a strategy, convince me that the strategy sux. If you agree with the strategy, you should be okay getting lynched. It's not against win con as VT to get lynched and prevent a jester lynch.In post 269, Michael Scott wrote:
What makes you think I'm scum?In post 266, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Michael is unlikely to be jester but has a much greater likelihood of flipping scum. Hence, you’re an optimal vote here.
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I'm not Jester, I'd be a lot more political and obvtowny -- Kent&Sain saying I look political is funny.
I'm not scum, because I'm okay with a lynch on me. Scum wouldn't, considering one of them's already out.
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I think if the worst is saying your vote sucks he wants to vote you.In post 285, Michael Scott wrote:
Lol. Okay, the wagon sux -- who should we lunch today?In post 284, the worst wrote:their wagon on you sux and is antagonistic tho I'm pretty sure that's the kind of thing jesters do here so they get lynched d3
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So this is actually what disturbs me the most about Michael Scott. Why didn't they get one before now? This is probably angleshooting but I think this indicates they are scum.In post 288, Michael Scott wrote:@Jingle: Requesting a Hydra QT.
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Then what are you saying Sir Duck?In post 291, the worst wrote:
this is a clear misrepresentation, read my conversation with Nancy. I was saying that the way you pushed her was gross, and was not saying either of those things.In post 286, Michael Scott wrote:And if you think it sux, either you don't think Nancy is obvtown, or you don't think we should lunch an obtown -- which is it?
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Town and scum are not the same team. This is a gross appeal.In post 295, Michael Scott wrote:If town thinks I'mscum,
Cool, we're on the same team then. We BOTH don't want to lynch the Jester; therefore:
1. Lynch Nancy today; (Obvtown and I'm scum anyway, no?)
2. Lynch someone else obvtown tomorrow; (theslimer3 preferably)
3. Deal with me in D4.
If town thinks I'mjester,
1. Lynch Nancy today; (Obvtown and she's not me)
2. Lynch someone else obvtown tomorrow; (theslimer3 preferably)
3. I die D4, scumhunt then.
Regardlessof what you think my alignment is, optimal strategy here is to lynch obvtown -- so if Nancy isn't obvtown, state it, else vote for her.
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It's designed to make you look as good as possible. How people react to a political play does not discredit the fact it was in fact political. You continuing to argue it is because you ditching it would validate the accusations towards you.In post 301, Michael Scott wrote:
How on earth is that "political", when it's so blatant and apparently NO ONE is reacting to it positively, YET I keep pushing it? You do know what "political" means, right?In post 298, Kent and Sain wrote:NM flipped scum but you could totally fake that too. And while I don't really see the reads as political the way you're acting on them is 100% political.
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Already stated your playstyle isn't one I'd expect Jester to take.In post 303, Michael Scott wrote:
So you want to lynch someone who looks scummy - which means a good chance of hitting the Jester, instead of letting that resolve itself after a couple lynches. Hurray. Way to let the Jester win.In post 300, Kent and Sain wrote:
I am opposed to lynching obvtown as described above.In post 297, Michael Scott wrote:And what do you two think of 294? If I'm not jester and you think I'm scum, and do lynch me today, are you fine going ahead with the plan outlined there?
Why/why not?
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Pretty sure my vote's already on you.In post 309, Michael Scott wrote:
Because we had Discord, and my other head wasn't responding there, and this was a more comfortable medium.In post 306, Kent and Sain wrote:
So this is actually what disturbs me the most about Michael Scott. Why didn't they get one before now? This is probably angleshooting but I think this indicates they are scum.In post 288, Michael Scott wrote:@Jingle: Requesting a Hydra QT.
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Does that answer satisfy you?
Also, you want to lynch scummy non-Jester people, right? So your vote should be on me, no?
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In post 242, Kent and Sain wrote:VOTE: Michael Scott
This is like lockMaf. Those reads and trajectory setup is some of the most scummy things I’ve ever seen.
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I don’t think this is permitted...In post 445, Michael Scott wrote:In post 1, Auro wrote:Well hello there Date Mike!
Jingle, keep hosting Jester games, I love them xD
Anyway, wanted to note here that I'm actually suspecting Nancy of being scum -- she was conspicuously off the Yes Mafia wagon, and seems to abhor the idea of being lynched as an "obvtown".
TW seems like the Jester, Kent&Sain are prolly town because of their slip.In post 2, volxen wrote:Yeah TW is definitely not a good lynch, I think there is a high likelihood of him being either scum or jester.
Interesting theory about Nancy. You've been advocating for lynching obvtown in the thread -- aside from our own slot, who else would you be comfortable lynching today?
I think the challenge here is distinguishing scum from jester. Are there certain players that you could see as either being town or scum, but definitely NOT jester? I think in terms of reads, that's the most important thing at the moment -- identifying players who are definitely not the jester. This is my first time playing this type of game mode, so I'm not really sure what strategy the jester will be applying here. At the most basic level, there is the assumption that the jester would want to get heavily scumread to help them get lynched, but then again the jester might anticipate this, and actually try to town it up to throw everyone off (especially since, as you suggested yourself, lynching obvtown is actually a really good strategy in this game, especially since half of the scumteam has been eliminated). So it's very possible that the jester is among the "obvtown" players as opposed to the more null or scummy players.
So who do you think islegitimate"obvtown" in this game, or at least "obvnotjester"? Those are the players that we need to identify.In post 3, volxen wrote:Should we test your Nancy theory by trying to hard push for her lynch today? If Nancy is scum and we get lynched today, she might be able to avoid a lynch on day 3 by continuing to establish herself as "obvtown" and making the argument that the group should lynch someone who is "obvnotjester" yet also "not obvtown" (her reasoning for lynching us today as opposed to herself).
So if Nancy is scum, if she takes us out today, she just has to avoid that "obvtown" lynch on day 3. Then on day 4 the jester suicides, and at that point the game reverts back to the normal "lynch the scummiest player" routine, and she can just coast on her "obvtown" status and win the game.
So the point is, if Nancy is scum and we get lynched today, that is going to seriously jeopardize our chances of winning this game, as I don't know that we can trust this group to "follow our wishes" and auto lynch Nancy on day 3. All she really has to do as scum on day 3 is convince the group that lynching the most obvtown player is a bad strategy, and identify a player that is "obvnotjester" but also "not obvtown" and push for that players lynch (as she is doing to us right now).
I don't think we should advocate for our own lynch today, I think we need to stay in the game longer.In post 6, Auro wrote:Nancy's convinced we're not jester because we were aggressively pushing her wagon -- it's unexpected for a jester to campaign for two other lynches on successive days, so I can see where she's coming from. The biggest reason I'm scumreading Nancy is because of her push against lynching her, and the lack of vote in D1.
It's actually fine if we get lynched as long as town follows our plan afterwards -- something I'll personally iron out with the rest of the slots in case we do. Our ending post would be "KILL NANCY, TRUST US" in caps. If she fights it too much in D3, that makes her more scumspect.
My reads list I posted are my actual thoughts, save Nancy's green. What do you think? What do you make of my last two posts?
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Pretty sure it’s against the rules yeahIn post 465, Michael Scott wrote:Damnit, I read the first page rules and didn't find one which banned quoting Hydra PTs -- is it not?
But it’s up to the mod
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Do you disagree that those look like town-originated posts? Why if so?In post 474, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
I don’t want to win if scum or jester is modkilled. That would kind of suck but I think that’s what we’re probably looking at. :/In post 472, Michael Scott wrote:Right. @Mod, what happens now?- Kent and Sain
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A perspective slip isn’t modkill-worthy. It means you posted something that obviously comes from a non-town perspective. Despite not disagreeing with the statement that those were likely not faked, it wasn’t immediately evident to you that those posts were town-written. That pretty much only comes from scum who are stuck riding their fake reads into the ground.
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Once in Team Mafia earlier this year, Magical Stories, I was the last scum who got to like last 4-5 players out of A LOT. Crazy game, so meh. Fun game, though.
And then ai got lynched as town in a Day 5 large, in lylo after a direct 1v2 against the remaining scum.
So tell me, what’s a guy gotta do to get lynched around here.
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Just ask nicely <3In post 601, Kent and Sain wrote:@The Worst - you seem like you would know?
that tm2018 game was a fun read
Magical Stories?
Did somebody say L-1?
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