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How soon we talkingIn post 19, MariaR wrote:Hello I need to be added to any type of PT thank you.
@Chibi, wdym existential spiral?
@Nibbui, why do you believe infinite fakeclaiming is less reprehensible/whatever you believe here?<Embrace The Void>
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In post 24, MariaR wrote:I become death proof.
I was expecting to have to dance around this more, based on a similar play Kokichi Oma made in Deja Vu Mafia (RIP). Thank you for providing these specifics, they make me much more inclined to aid you. While making you immune to some sort of a kill is kinda unsavory, it’s better bulletproof than Lynchproof as lynch is town’s main weapon while the gun is a more rogue tool.
Unfortunately I cannot aid you right now but I’ll do what I can to help. This is dependent on you remaining not-a-scumread FYI.<Embrace The Void>
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I already accounted for you not meaning it in a way that regarded fakeclaiming as reprehensible with the “whatever you believe” part.In post 28, Nibbui wrote:
Hi there GammaIn post 21, Gamma Emerald wrote:
@Nibbui, why do you believe infinite fakeclaiming is less reprehensible/whatever you believe here?In post 19, MariaR wrote:Hello I need to be added to any type of PT thank you.
It's not about being reprehensible or not, I wanted to do it just because it's fun!! :'D
Seriously speaking though it's more of a pun since I love fakeclaiming as scum, but since I rolled town I might need to hold myself
Oh, also I have a xmas gift for you
VOTE: Gamma
So uh...what’s the pun? I see a rhyme, but no pun.
And thank you for your gift, I like votes of many kinds. Unfortunately votes on town are disliked so that sours the feeling a little.<Embrace The Void>
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Whilst possible it could be she needs to be in a non-factional PT or some other way of phrasing that excludes a mafia PT.In post 32, mutantdevle wrote:Wait, can we infer that MariaR is town from her quest? Since mafia would already be in a PT.
I like your gusto though.<Embrace The Void>
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I guess the best way to describe my quest is “disruptive”. Don’t care to say more for now.
I think it’s possible but kinda don’t feel we’d be dealing with mafia having specifically anti-town quests.<Embrace The Void>
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Exposure: I had that exact quest in a game I replaced into in order to make my role better. So I thought you read that game and saw it, or you were in it on another account.In post 44, Nibbui wrote:In post 39, Gamma Emerald wrote:Wait why is that the first thing you could come up with?
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Mind telling why you think explaining the reaction test helps? I had a somewhat recent game where I saw someone was reaction testing me because I saw their post after posting about something unrelated to their test but still part of the game.<Embrace The Void>
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Are you activity telling me again -_-
I just read your PT for the coalition, and I object to the idea of a straight activity read. You can try to read me on engagement, I engage in different ways as town and scum I feel. But you can’t just try activity read me like Creature (which doesn’t work either).<Embrace The Void>
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So, like this is supposed to be 100% trustworthy? I heard this in a past game but have minimal clue as to the actual validity. Although it’s possible there’s a connection between that and this because jjh and Nico were both in that game (Nico as Carnelian, who flaked) and iirc were in two slots that were both Miller.In post 78, NicoRobin wrote:Oh, and I am a Miller.<Embrace The Void>
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EwwIn post 80, MariaR wrote:
That joke doesn't deserve a response n00bIn post 79, Gamma Emerald wrote:You ignored my joke ;-;
Maria might be Mafia<Embrace The Void>
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I’m not merely judging off what’s in that post. Either becoming a listmod changed you or thus is way too serious compared to the Maria I know, who would get upset at the joke or something.In post 83, MariaR wrote:
WAT. THAT WAS LIKE THE MOST NAI POST IN MY ISO.In post 82, Gamma Emerald wrote:
EwwIn post 80, MariaR wrote:
That joke doesn't deserve a response n00bIn post 79, Gamma Emerald wrote:You ignored my joke ;-;
Maria might be Mafia<Embrace The Void>
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You should have 3, one of them with the role explained and availableIn post 85, Kokichi Oma wrote:Wait do you guys have like roles? I just have a flavor wtf
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‘Twas not very funny.In post 87, MariaR wrote:I...was making a joke back at you I thought that was painfully clear.<Embrace The Void>
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That only works if you win twiceIn post 91, Kokichi Oma wrote:If I win the mini game, I can unlock a person's 2nd role PM for them. So I can unlock whoever we all think is towniest. Sound good?
The first time you win you unlock your own role
Unless you somehow just got no roles at all, which is kinda sketchy.<Embrace The Void>
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Shooting someone down like you did isn’t funny, it’s insulting.In post 92, MariaR wrote:
Na you just don't get my amazing humor.In post 89, Gamma Emerald wrote:
‘Twas not very funny.In post 87, MariaR wrote:I...was making a joke back at you I thought that was painfully clear.<Embrace The Void>
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That is absolutely frightening. I have a stupid guess to what Varsoon chose as his flavor. Kudos, dear sir. That might be the easiest wall to read because it responds to literally every post.
I'll actually answer questions, just gimme a sec to process<Embrace The Void>
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Responding to Varsoon might take a while, so I'll attempt to remain appraised and responding to current events.
This might end up like TM White Flag where I post big posts very late compared to when I start them due to having to take breaks from them.<Embrace The Void>
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In post 133, jjh927 wrote:Votecount #2:
Player Votes Voters Not Known 15 3northsidegal, Nibbui, Elbirn Firebringer 2NicoRobin, ChibiBear MariaR 1Not Known 15 mutantdevle 1Kokichi Oma Not voting ---Firebringer, RadiantCowbells, Gamma Emerald, MariaR, Varsoon, mutantdevle
With 13 alive it's 7 to achieve majority for the lynch
The day will end in (expired on 2018-12-16 10:00:00).
The rules for the first minigame will be revealed in (expired on 2018-12-04 10:00:00).@Mod Varsoon is voting for Not Known 15<Embrace The Void>
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Responding to Varsoon's wall with post numbers so we don't create posts that break the site.
Spoiler: these are jokes
2: This seems a bit anal about the whole thing. Yes someone picking and then replacing sucks because they don't get to play with a flavor they picked out themselves. But it feels like you're treating the as compromised just through this. I can see what you mean with FFT, and can call your comparison with the Murder at King's Landing game SAD ran which was also an anonymous alt game and iirc some players kinda pushed how far they could go with that, including a hydra that had some problems. fyi Carcalilly picked her roles and then flaked (which is a repeat offense, and probably will result in me not letting her into games I mod anytime soon), otherwise we'd have had need of a replacement a lot sooner.
9: I could answer these but I'll let them be unless they come towards me.
16: excited for several reasons, will try to rattle off as man as I can: role, a hype playerlist (and btw I know the origin of hype, idc I'll still use it), RC doing the same thing with firebringer me and DVa did in a completed game, being happy I get to play what I think will be a lolbalance UPick after Alisae leaving the promise of his UPick hanging, and excitement from various things I cannot get into without a mire of spoilers for a LOT of things.
Why are you being such a grump about fluffposting though? Are you seriously this meme?
21: A lot of this is fluff, but I'm not gonna let your grump attitude stop me from enjoying the game I want to play.
Getting into what I said to Maria, just because I'm asking about role things doesn't mean I intend to do things about them. I'll get into that down below.
The ChibiBear question has to do with my mire of spoilery thoughts and just my general mire of random thoughts, which has been swirling like crazy recently. One thing of which I think you might find cool: my mom and sister have convinced me to check out Steven Universe!
The Nibbui question was because Nibbui's statement made no sense and I was trying to parse it.
23: See below.
24: not the thing I've been pointing to, but why do you think MariaR is realclaiming as town? Nibbui just brought up fakeclaiming, why does that slip your mind?
29: I do NOT think MariaR is town as of this moment.
30: well our "RVS" seemed a little voting light, so I was encouraging more votes.
34: Yeah, I noted I gelled with your thinking in 32, although I didn't notice you saying anything about what you thought of mutantdevle for his theory.
35: good thought, though lacking in alignment indication.
37: I actually followed SU2 Mafia from around the midpoint, and iirc the Climax meter was another form of swing mitigation. So yeah I get what you're talking about.
44: Brings up something I didn't notice. why DID you ask that question, Nibbui? why does you having that at the top of your head matter?
39 & 46: So as I said, I had a quest in a past game where I could increase my usefulness if I was brought to L-1 and survived. This is the game, fyi.
49: your sarcasm radar must be broken.
52: this should go in the jokes section but this is addressed at me and the jokes section is meant to be skippable. I made that joke because one of Maria's alts is the character Sonia Nevermind.
55: noticing Varsoon playing the paranoia card a lot? Nagl.
59: Directed at NSG
61: I was like “ok, if it wasn’t a reaction test I don’t see much that I take issue with”. I was neutral on the vote pretty much.
64: I’m gonna give you the short version, if you want the long version just say so. A player who doesn’t play here anymore, Infinity324, has a consistent track record of reading me based on how engaged I was. I’ve broken free from that meta somewhat but I still believe that certain ways I behave are exclusive to one alignment over the other. For instance I will sometimes try to sit in the background as scum if I don’t like the way things are going or don’t want to upset the path of events.
81: For some reason I just find the way Varsoon is playing around Nico and the Miller claim awful.
79, 82, 86: This is serious. I’d definitely expect her to have a more emotive reaction to what I did.
89 and 92: Giving preferential treatment to Maria I see.
94: are you mocking me? I think you’re mocking me.
So I agree with a lot of Varsoon's theoryposting, but that is pretty prevalent which gives me an IIoA vibe, plus I feel like his grump-ness might be scummy. That grump-ness read is meta based though and I need to check it. Also the way he’s interacting with everyone gives me the feeling not everyone is starting at the same point for him, indicating hidden knowledge.
VOTE: Varsoon<Embrace The Void>
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Hey dickcheeseIn post 142, Not Known 15 wrote:-snip-
Don’t quote the whole post if you’re going to respond to one small thing<Embrace The Void>
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Did you pick yourselfIn post 172, Kokichi Oma wrote:
Idr why I picked what I picked. But I can tell you my flavor.In post 102, Gamma Emerald wrote:Oh gosh what if Kokichi went for the easy pick and that became his normal, or possibly worse his quest role<Embrace The Void>
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So um, why are we selecting Mutant/Varsoon for unlocking upon Kokichi winning a minigame?In post 177, Kokichi Oma wrote:So if I win the mini game. Whose 2nd role PM does everyone want me to unlock<Embrace The Void>
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you forgot meIn post 214, Firebringer wrote:Sure I have quite a few buddies in here
Elbirn is a good friend
Maria is alright though we had a bit of falling out a few months ago
RC is my best friend in here
Varsoon and I are cool but not real good friends
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Try children of Hurin if you want to check one out maybe?In post 220, mutantdevle wrote:
I don't think I've ever played a game with scum!NK15, but he comes to such obscure conclusions about anything and does nonsensical things so often that I can only assume it's NAI for him. If it's not, then I guess it's a town tell. But I'd have to read through some of NK15's scum games for that and I really can't be bothered to do that this early in the game.In post 147, Varsoon wrote:@MutantDevle: So NK15 usually makes really tenuous connections in coming to conclusions?
Is it just for scumreads or for townreads too?
Is it while playing any alignment?<Embrace The Void>
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For some reason I get the feeling this post could be AIIn post 231, mutantdevle wrote:In post 223, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Try children of Hurin if you want to check one out maybe?In post 220, mutantdevle wrote:
I don't think I've ever played a game with scum!NK15, but he comes to such obscure conclusions about anything and does nonsensical things so often that I can only assume it's NAI for him. If it's not, then I guess it's a town tell. But I'd have to read through some of NK15's scum games for that and I really can't be bothered to do that this early in the game.In post 147, Varsoon wrote:@MutantDevle: So NK15 usually makes really tenuous connections in coming to conclusions?
Is it just for scumreads or for townreads too?
Is it while playing any alignment?Stop reading through your own iso you pretentious prick and look at this game.HEY CURRENT MUTANT!
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I think I do, but I think I do it more in completed games when looking for things I'm trying to prove in current gamesIn post 235, mutantdevle wrote:
In every game, I'll look through my iso for various reasons. My alignment just dictates what those reasons areIn post 233, Gamma Emerald wrote:For some reason I get the feeling this post could be AI
Also, do you not look through your own iso sometimes? I can't be the only one that does that.<Embrace The Void>
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would you like my inputIn post 241, Elbirn wrote:
Varsoon is always a hard read for me because he seems to tryhard as all alignments, especially because I think I've seen him playing as third party (but aiming for town wincons) and multiball scum (but playing like town hunting for scum) but not as solo scum or town. So I'm like *shrug emoticon*In post 224, RadiantCowbells wrote:Varsoon is by far my top scumread for the record.
So yeah basically what I'm getting at is uhh help me
Tell me what you *see*
also gonna look at his second wall soon<Embrace The Void>
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Well so does everyoneIn post 240, Gamma Emerald wrote:I'd like to get the minigame role because I think the flavor could lead some cool places<Embrace The Void>
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In post 259, ChibiBear wrote:Varsoon posted fluff outside of a spoiler tag, I'm calling the police<Embrace The Void>
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Hoods != masonries, hoeIn post 292, Elbirn wrote:Also who is the utter T H O T who didn't add me to a neighborhood
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In post 310, Varsoon wrote:Chibi, don't be tricked.
RC isn't a strong player.
Strong players can lead town to victory.
Strong players can acknowledge their weaknesses and grow.
Proof is in the pudding. Lynch RC and the flip will prove their strength as a player.
Do you really think that mattersIn post 324, Firebringer wrote:
I am telling you right here varsoon.In post 320, Varsoon wrote:The basic conduct rule you quoted is from a general list of rules that are "apply to any posts made outside of a game, including all Discussion/Administration forums, the Queues, and post-game."
These posts of mine are not outside of a game.
Global site Game Specific Rule 8 is "Since Mafia is based largely on conflict and psychological manipulation, we are somewhat more tolerant of aggressive and heated posts in-game than in the rest of the forums. However, game mods will often take action for excessively abusive behavior or slurs, up to and including a force-replacement or modkill."
Would you categorize my prodding of RC to take a firm stance based on the actual content of this game as 'somewhat aggressive and heated' or 'excessively abusive'?
P-EDIT: If you listen to him here and lynch me, town has a significantly lower chance of winning.
I won't let RC bully another game into submission and when the players of that game happen to scrape a win, let him gloat about how great of a player he is.
You are trying to provoke a player and the path your going down will lead to a very aggressive and heated fight between you two and it can easily lead to ban, which is why I am asking you to stop.
i don't think you hiding behind the tolerance of the rules is cool when you know full well what you are doing and should know clearly what will occur. I am not even saying for you to be kicked/removed or anything, I would say that mod should give a warning for anyone trying to make this game personal. Because you are very much going into that territory.<Embrace The Void>
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So I’m combing through Varsoon’s ISO in another game and this came up
@Varsoon talk about this and your wallpost, what do you think your wallpost will do for this?In post 641, Varsoon wrote:Allow me to part the kimono a bit here:
A large part of the reason that I always keep a tab open and stay up to date on my games is because I don't take notes, I have a garbage memory, and when there's more than a single page of text left for me, I skim very hard and miss lots of details.
In other news I found that he lacked any vitriol about replacements, though the replacement in that game were later than him being eliminated from the game iirc. He didn’t have anything that directly resembles his fluff posting vitriol but he did get pissy about Kokichi’s roleplaying. I found he also had a habit of being rather aggro towards people he suspected, so that’s something.
Overall the meta dip looks like it might be very fruitful.<Embrace The Void>
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Hmm this makes senseIn post 387, Nibbui wrote:It's not even about letting Kokichi win or not. It's how you're theorizing we should let Kokichi decide if we let him win.
If you're so suspicious of Kokichi being scum, I don't think it would be a good idea to let him decide for himself.
This game works by plurality vote and therefore I don't see a problem with deciding who gets unlocked by plurality votes.
Also, I indeed do not want to get unlocked because my role is simply kinda useless.
I’ve been skimming a lot of this discussion btw due to it being kinda obnoxious.<Embrace The Void>
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Why do you think RC created the hoods mentioned so far?In post 414, mutantdevle wrote:In post 291, Nibbui wrote:
Oh, I see.In post 286, RadiantCowbells wrote:all the neighbourhoods were generated after the game started.
I wasn't invited to any though, sad.
I think it's probably best that people shouldn't be saying whether or not RC neighbourised them.In post 292, Elbirn wrote:Also who is the utter T H O T who didn't add me to a neighborhood
Somebody masonize me those are fun<Embrace The Void>
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Huhhh?In post 473, ChibiBear wrote:Eh. Looks like RC is pretty set on doing most of his talking in his neighbourhood and I don't really feel like lynching him, at least not at this point.
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Do you think saying NicoRobin's name more will get her to post more?
Turning off the lights.
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NicoRobin, NicoRobin, NicoRobin.<Embrace The Void>
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While the ACTUAL THING THAT WAS THERE was weird, I do NOT approve of you fabricating shit like that.In post 476, Varsoon wrote:
Holy shit that slipIn post 473, ChibiBear wrote:Eh. Looks like RC is pretty set on doing most of his talking in his scum pt and I don't really feel like lynching him, at least not at this point.
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NicoRobin, NicoRobin, NicoRobin.<Embrace The Void>
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Huh.In post 481, Firebringer wrote:also rc hasn't posted in our pt and i am about to get all tsundere on his butt<Embrace The Void>
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[quote="In post 473, ChibiBear"]Eh. Looks like RC is pretty set on doing most of his talking in his neighbourhood/quote]
This was the “Huhhh?” part.<Embrace The Void>
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