Excalibur [Endgame]

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me 2

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A) The reincarnation of Lawrence Olivier

who dat?

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no one lynching me thinks I am scum.

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she asked for it.

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you're not gonna.

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no you knew I would. don't pretend otherwise.
that was a direct challenge and asking for it.

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also calling me bad isn't helping here.
ur face is bad.

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this is what happened:

me :"Hey maria I am thinking of challenging you here, give me a good reason not to"
maria: "your not gonna"

I proposed what I was gonna do.
You thought you could throw it away by saying "ohh he is bluffing" which is dumb as fuck for anyone who knows me which you are among them.

and I called u out on it by doing it.
then you call me bad for doing it.

I told you what I was gonna do. And you think I am bad for actually going through with it?
No, that's stupid.

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stop attacking my character you have done it twice now.

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Sorry for assuming better of you.

like this is emotionally manipulative as my mother for christs sake.

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VOTE: mariar

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Sorry for assuming better of you.

like this is emotionally manipulative as my mother for christs sake.

You're taking this extremely the wrong way.

don't you gaslight me.

i can see emotionally manipulative behavior ive dealt with it my whole life.

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Kokichi is on the to lynch pile as well.
You get one fucking recall of fake claiming shit.

Not a million of them buddy.
You are going down tomorrow.

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Maria is either scum or gamethrowing.

I think she should be WotC'd next game personally.

please do not call someone a gamethrower.
it is not necessary at all.

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Like fire do you want me to replace out? I would never attack you like that ever.

you do what you think is best.
asking in this way is also another manipulation tactic and i don't care for it.

if you think you truly think you haven't crossed lines than its not necessary but asking in this way is obligating me to either forgive you or kick you out of the game.

and frankly i just want to lynch you because now i think ur slot is unreadable and ruined.

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I can't tell at all what claims are bs or what not.
I am assuming it is all bs and going with what i think is best right now for game and i think that's maria.

you all cluttered this game with too many lies for me to sort through

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I think you took my attacks as me attacking you as a person when I was talking about you as a mafia player. I would never try to attack you as a person to win a mafia game. The blacklist was me kinda being mad given Ik for a fact some people were gting to get me lynched and that's hurtful but weeee I'm overit

and i think this is ur way of reframing what you did to make you seem like you didn't attack me and just attacked my play which is not how any of your posts read and i personally don't have enough good faith in you right now to believe it is true.

so just stop.

because i personally see your next step is going to be "I am so insulted that firebringer would think so slow of me to say this or believe it" (which you hinted at already). and then we are going further down emotional manipulation shit.

Idc. Just stop.

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Kokichi is getting lynched tomorrow, and then Dunn maybe the day after that, but today we're lynching Maria

Good luck with lynching Merlin.

even if you are merlin you have told dozens of lies. you have lost credibility man.
i don't get how you don't see that.

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Dva is town.

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i was thinking this before but auroro is probably scum here.

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and i don't think kokichi is town here.
he argues for having a lynch to play at an optimal way even though he townreads me, and nothing else he has done has been optimal.

so if you believe in optimal play, why just in this scenario? Why do you believe in playing optimal for lynching people you townread (which isn't optimal but that is a whole other argument). And believe in telling a billion lies and think that is optimal?

I am a believer in not playing optimally because I think that makes the game ridiculously boring and unfun. But even I can see when someone says optimal play and isn't playing in that way is either A) putting on a face or B) inconsistent

And I think Kokichi should get lynched because then I can figure what is real or not out.

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ur were just talking about lynching Dva.
so you telling me what the real topic is just what.

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Kokichi isn't the topic of lynch at the moment it's you and me. The only reason I'm voting you at this point is for 2 reasons
1) Don't know if a lot of people will even nl at this point aka survivalist
2) I can see you just instantly dueling me again if we nl.

1) more than half the people expressed interest in this. some are voting me out of apathy to end the day.
2) i can't gurantee i won't. i don't think ur townie here.

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actually 2 people said i was Arthur.

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actually 2 people said i was Arthur.

Quote then.

go read the thread u lazy bum.

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But no one is saying Fire is Arthur

Who cares, no one is saying Maria is Arthur

i think kokichi did.
but reliability on that is 0.

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actually 2 people said i was Arthur.

Quote then.

go read the thread u lazy bum.

Nah. Not doing your job for you.

its not my job to play the game for u

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Firebringer is Arthur

heres another

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I am playing the game. You made a statement, it’s your job to back it up. Burden of proof, buddy.

lol
burder of proof.

u made a statement. i said it was wrong.
you made no backup to your claim and it was easily dismissed.

and i have the burden of proof? lol

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That also shifts my from from the “compromise” area to the “actual scumread” area for cherry picking evidence.

do you know what cherry picking is gamma?

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i am not saying either claim is true.
i don't believe either.

i was just saying the claim no one has said i was Arthur is false.
That is all.

and i think Dva is right that is just irrelevant to it since no claim on Maria is also credible. Nor does it matter in my eyes how many people say she is Arthur or has the sword.

Cause all of them lost credibility. You want to argue that?

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i can take ur claim as serious and not believe it separately than the whole sleuth of people now i am dismissing any claims they give because they have faked too much for them to be taken seriously.

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Fire will hold this game hostage hell he even admitted to doing so he needs to go so we can lynch the legit scum.

never did this btw.

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i was voluntarily advocating my own lynch to push the game out of this until recent events.
so saying i am holding this game hostage is grossly inaccurate .

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If we no lynch fire is just going to duel me again. I am conf town so you're basically letting fire control who he does. The reason fire is getting lynched is because he's gonna be anti town the whole time. This lynch isn't about lynching scum because I'm pretty sure it's clear both of us are town here. It's about getting rid of fire who is being anti town right now. I listed my reasons for wanting fire lynched why do you want me lynched?1) Because I have the sword?2) Because you think I could be scum and you can't read me? What is your logic for lynching me here.

I am being anti town here?
really?

I am lynching you who is my scumread.
I might be wrong on it. I don't care.

I think you are scum here and your lynching me for "being anti town".

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I firmly believe you don't actually have the sword here.
and maybe one of these fakers has the sword and is trying to mask it.

I have no idea, maybe its dunnstral. The problem is I will never find out who has it from them because I can't trust them to be telling me the truth. So i have to rely on what I think is the situation and I think your full of it. You are scum.

And it doesn't matter if no one has CCed you because at the end of the day all these claims are just smoke mirrors hiding away at what is really happening.

And I think your scum going through the confusion and doing a really good job at it at that.

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My running theory is dunnstral is town has the sword and is hard defending maria because he truly misguided believes she is town.

And usually i would ask dunny to come out and completely tell me the truth regarding this, but I can't rely on what he says.

This is very frustrating.

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Auror, Gamma, Maria.

That is my bet on the scum team.

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I am not as certain of gamma as the rest. But I think he is lost scum here looking for contrite reasons to do stuff. Which maybe he does also as town but Idk. They don't seem to be really solving anything but i haven't really examined his iso.

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i bet LLD is having a fun time watching me be a moron in here.

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nancy i think ur stuck on repeat a bit here.

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That also shifts my from from the “compromise” area to the “actual scumread” area for cherry picking evidence.

do you know what cherry picking is gamma?

Yes. It’s selectively presenting evidence to fit your narrative. You only presented the evidence that fit your claim of possibly being Arthur. I located evidence that was on the same page that discredited your claim. The fact you ignored when initially presenting means you cherry picked.

i didn't anywhere claim to be arthur, gamma.

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i can take ur claim as serious and not believe it separately than the whole sleuth of people now i am dismissing any claims they give because they have faked too much for them to be taken seriously.

So because X was faking W Y and Z lose credibility? You’re fucking idiotic if that’s how your brain works.

no fucking read the post again.

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That also shifts my from from the “compromise” area to the “actual scumread” area for cherry picking evidence.

do you know what cherry picking is gamma?

Yes. It’s selectively presenting evidence to fit your narrative. You only presented the evidence that fit your claim of possibly being Arthur. I located evidence that was on the same page that discredited your claim. The fact you ignored when initially presenting means you cherry picked.

i didn't anywhere claim to be arthur, gamma.

like god i don't know how much simpler i can make this out to be.

lets back up gamma because theres some stupid miscommunication happening here and you aren't even attempting to bridge it.

You said: "No has claimed firebringer is arthur". The point of you saying that was nobody has made a serious claim that i am arthur and that the potential of me being arthur is low. [I am not disputing that, but you never said that]

I was focusing on what you said which is no one claimed i was arthur which was false.

If you want to have some stupid straw man argument with someone who thinks UT or NK15 claims of me being arthur are legitimate go find them. I am not arguing that shit.

In summary shut the hell up.

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okay replace gamma with kokichi and we get a real good scum list

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One is Wrong. One is Wise.
Choosing poorly will be your demise.

Whether Maria lives or Maria dies,
You will be in for a surprise.

Her death will solve the crime,
But we must leave it for another time.

Firebringer is not apart of this suspicion.
Therefore we require his deletion.

Leave Pandora's box untouched,
Varsoon and Kokichi have said so much.

VOTE: Firebringer

The riddle will be solved when I shoot Nancy tonight. Stay tuned.

i don't get this riddle

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i need a translator for jay now.

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is jay playing a character now?
i don't understand what he is doing.

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but who u pretending to be?
is this like a medieval knight?
a princess?
a evil sorcerer?

i don't understand what ur roleplaying as right now

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VOTE: no lynch

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nancy ur on repeat again

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i just realized i have a controversial opinion that chara might be scum.

so my list is looking
{Dva, Dunnstral}
{Jay, Varsoon}
{Nancy, Gamma Emerald}
{UT, Cakez, PenguinPower, Not Known15} <--null
{Auror, Chara}
{Kokichi, Maria}

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Who says ive even made a read this game? You're assuming to much.

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You think Maria's lying about having the sword?

yes

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Who says ive even made a read this game? You're assuming to much.

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You think Maria's lying about having the sword?

yes

Do you think Merlin hasn't claimed yet?
If one of the Merlin claims so far is true, which one can it be?

i don't know and don't care at this point.

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somedays i don't even believe the green role pm i got.

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actually my role pm wasn't green.
it was just white

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HOLY SHIT GUYS AM I A NEUTRAL PARTY!

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i have a hard time believing u follow anyones orders.

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i might have to just post this:


any time i read a Jay post.

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Me shooting you doesnt correlate to it being a read. I'm just following orders on that one so I dont fuck over town.

You can’t think for yourself? Well who’s the brilliant scumhunting god, giving you “orders” because they will be the

laughingstock

WOAT of this game.

Along with you, for blindly going along with it.

2 WOATs for the price of 1? For everything else, there’s MasterCard.

i approve this meme.

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Auther n2 aka

Kokichi

.

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My running theory is dunnstral is town has the sword and is hard defending maria because he truly misguided believes she is town.

And usually i would ask dunny to come out and completely tell me the truth regarding this, but I can't rely on what he says.

This is very frustrating.

Also I was serious earlier when I said people don't listen to my MariaR read - She literally has the sword and is mod confirmed and people are theorizing situations where I'm biased and wrong on my read on her - then they have the audacity to say that their own read on her would be better than mine in that situation

Fuck you dude.
Literally fuck you.

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I'm not fake claiming holding the sword dude

Maria has it

No I am not believing a claim or anything you say regards to swords/arthur/merlin anything like that, but my point about "fuck you" was I believed you on maria being scum, and then you backtracked and put a knife in me and now you fucking say "No one believes my read on Maria". Like seriously.

Go fuck yourself.

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Because that defeats the purpose of all this mayhem I'm causing if I stab her.

My chaos has reason behind it.

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I'm not fake claiming holding the sword dude

Maria has it

No I am not believing a claim or anything you say regards to swords/arthur/merlin anything like that, but my point about "fuck you" was I believed you on maria being scum, and then you backtracked and put a knife in me and now you fucking say "No one believes my read on Maria". Like seriously.

Go fuck yourself.

Would you feel better if I said I did believe Maria was scum until she claimed the sword, and the reason I thought she was scum was because she made up excuses for not going for the sword then didn't say she went for it anyway?

sort of, but i am still annoyed.

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i think we have all established auro is scummy.

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problem is ur following

KOKICHI

orders.

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You think Maria's lying about having the sword?

yes

Do you think Merlin hasn't claimed yet?
If one of the Merlin claims so far is true, which one can it be?

Also this kind of Merlin fishing right now doesn't seem beneficial to the town, at the least

These were questions pointed at Firebringer, I want to evaluate whether Fire is scum or not.

frankly those are dumb questions on how to sort me.

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frankly those are dumb questions on how to sort me.

also to add more to that.
u didn't use my answer to sort me at all.
u voted me after u read nancy town case on me being not sufficient, but didn't say why that was scummy just how it wasn't townie.

also u act all the time like ur reads refresh like someone who isn't developing reads at a time and constantly invents new ones or forgets the old ones without actually having a natural progression that town would have.

fuck u have now dropped from "lean scum" to full on scum read.

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frankly those are dumb questions on how to sort me.

My methods.
You responded with "I don't know, I don't care" which either means you're scum, or are useless to the game.
Made you look scummier to me, so I think it was useful.

i take offense to being called scummy.

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Anyone who is looking for indepth analysis into auro go read his iso.
tell me if his reads look like natural progression or just random going with the flow of the game that don't make sense.

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id rather shoot myself than consult kokichi on anything except for how bad he is and how to get better

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Its not gamethrowing if I blame Kokichi for it.

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Elsa what makes u troll so hard?
What drives u to do this?

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A: "Fire, a couple questions"
F: "I don't know, I don't care"
A: "How is this town? Vote: Fire"
F: "Frankly these are dumb questions to sort me"
F: "I'm offended you call me scummy"
F: "You didn't use my answer to sort me"
F: "Auro is scummy, do an ISO blah blah"

Looks a lot more scummy than towny to me. I seriously doubt a no lunch is better than lunching Fire.

hey i did a lot more blah blah than that.

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My toes feel funny

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I am mad at u chara

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I wrote a long,

scathing

criticism of town play in this game, but I lost it and decided that it was better not posted.

Congratulations to scum team for winning despite Arthur getting the sword on Night 1!

I blame myself and chara

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i'd have liked to read it anyway, FakeGod. i hate everything about what i did this game.

You probably did best out of town. My criticisms were mostly aimed at Kokichi.

well damn it fg, i want some criticism, give it to me good

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hold onto it forever chara, let it fester deep inside of you as it boils to the surface and then you can join the dark side.

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almost got u to the darkside, damn.

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kokichi prolly would have shot town anyways

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kokichi prolly would have shot town anyways

better than gladiating merlin for no reason

looks like someone is hurt

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need a hug?

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need a hug?

growlithes can't hug

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at least kokichi killed one scum.