Open 740: Hope Plus One [Game over]

[BuJaber]

Vote Count 3.1:

ChibiBear (2):

bristep123, ReaperOfSouls

Gamma Emerald (1):

ChibiBear

Not Voting (6):

davesaz, Bambietta Basterbine, Clemency, DS, Gamma Emerald, Alonzo

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2018-12-22 19:35:00)

[Gamma Emerald]

As stated above, either you or Gamma via PoE.

Btw if Bri flips scum I'm quitting mafia forever.

Well I can't speak for Gamma as it was between the two of you for me by process of elimination. But if you flip town. Mine would be another mislynch.

I haven’t voted yet. Tbh I don’t see why people are clearing bristep

[ReaperOfSouls]

As stated above, either you or Gamma via PoE.

Btw if Bri flips scum I'm quitting mafia forever.

Well I can't speak for Gamma as it was between the two of you for me by process of elimination. But if you flip town. Mine would be another mislynch.

I haven’t voted yet. Tbh I don’t see why people are clearing bristep

Case?

[Gamma Emerald]

No case, just skepticism

[ReaperOfSouls]

No case, just skepticism

He presents as town more than the current suspects.

[bristep123]

Well, one of you knows I'm town lets not forget that.

[Gamma Emerald]

No case, just skepticism

He presents as town more than the current suspects.

How?

[ReaperOfSouls]

No case, just skepticism

He presents as town more than the current suspects.

How?

You're the one that is leaning towards the other way you tell me.

[Gamma Emerald]

I have no opinion on him, stop acting like I have to explain myself because I’m being contrary. There’s been 0 in depth explanation of the townreads on bristep and they’ve felt non-present throughout the game so I don’t get where they come from

[Gamma Emerald]

To simplify:
I don’t have a reason to scumread bristep, I have a reason to not townread bristep.

[bristep123]

One of them is legitimately townreading me (whether their reasoning is sound, the result is right), the other knows I'm town and is pocketing. That's my take anyway.

[ReaperOfSouls]

Where are the confirmed players. What are their opinions?

[davesaz]

I'm back from camping, but there is a fair amount of unloading, cleaning, getting lunch for the family, etc.
Alonzo is a good check. I had him as weak scum.

[DS]

No case, just skepticism

He presents as town more than the current suspects.

Just to reiterate: His suspect list is currently Gamma, DS, and Chibibear - to which he has said of me

I don't have you as a SR. Hammer happy yes

so in reality he is just saying that Bri is more town than you (Gamma) and Chibibear.

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I dont know if i am just being nitpicky but the way this is worded kinda pings me.

[DS]

Im gonna VOTE: Reaper.

[DS]

Im not really sure I like how everyone is coming to seemingly the same conclusions that Chibi/Gamma are scum. I feel like we were kind of lucky to have caught the other two scum so fast, I wouldnt just jump so fast - which is understandly ironic coming from me lol

[ChibiBear]

Chibibear has done nothing since entering the game but play to past game with Gamma, and talk about how bad a player they are. If you notice they were always including Egix96 in the town reads before the inevitable. If you combine the two players, to me the read has only gotten more non town.

I'm utterly sick of you people complaining about me saying I'm a bad player ONCE WHEN I WAS FRUSTRATED, and I made like 2 posts talking to Gamma about past games, so you're outright misrepresenting things that I have said and done.

I spent a good 50 posts trying my best only to make a crappy decision and then be scumread for it. Fine. I continue to try despite being feeling pretty put out, only to be called bad by other players for being wrong. Fine, I deserve it. I'm done and no longer want to participate in this game so I don't really care if I am lynched today, but I'm not going to make some poor person replace into this slot, nor am I going to just take the easy way out and stay silent and further discourage activity in this game.

If you seriously think I'm scum hiding behind 'I'm a bad player' then have at it, I don't care, but your argument is awful and it feels to me like you are actually scum trying to justify a scumread on an easy target.

VOTE: Reaper

[ChibiBear]

Sorry if the above post comes across as rude, I was in a really awful mood when I wrote it and should have been less harsh.

My point still stands though.

[DS]

Okay not sure how I feel about Chibi instantly joining that train

[ChibiBear]

Don't care, I have nothing to lose anyway.

Like I said before, if it were my choice, Gamma and Reaper, one tomorrow and one the next day if the game is still going. Changing it to one today and one tomorrow is even better.

[davesaz]

Chibibear has done nothing since entering the game but play to past game with Gamma, and talk about how bad a player they are. If you notice they were always including Egix96 in the town reads before the inevitable. If you combine the two players, to me the read has only gotten more non town.

I'm utterly sick of you people complaining about me saying I'm a bad player ONCE WHEN I WAS FRUSTRATED, and I made like 2 posts talking to Gamma about past games, so you're outright misrepresenting things that I have said and done.

Hmm, let's see...

Reaper went on V/LA right when I replaced in so I have no impression of him whatsoever. I don't think I could have 'distanced' if I tried.


My play is inherently scummy because I'm a bad player. Stop focusing on me being a bad player and start considering if scum would gain anything from behaving as I have, that might actually get you somewhere.

I mean in my last game my top 3 scumreads all flipped town within the space of 48 hours. Which was actually pretty funny. That's why I'm trying to solve through POE instead, starting with town reads.

Btw you don't actually

know

that my reads are bad yet unless you're scum

I mean statistically speaking they probably are but still.

As I said before, reaper or dave. But I like gamma for now.
With my track record though it’s probably my only unconfirmed townreas Bri
But yeah I have negative 100 percent confidence in my reads so I really dunno.

There may have been other less blatant places where you discount your reads / game.

The issue I have with your posting is different. You're posting enough quantity, but I don't like it that you're including so little quality in those posts. Gut can only take you so far and then you need to have something analytical to point to. Your scumreads seem more like the "gotta have the right number of scumreads" category, instead of showing that you're looking at what people are doing and why they might be doing it.

[DS]

Don't care, I have nothing to lose anyway.

Like I said before, if it were my choice, Gamma and Reaper, one tomorrow and one the next day if the game is still going. Changing it to one today and one tomorrow is even better.

Thats not a town mindstate. Everyone but one person is town in this game. So even in a best case scenario one of those people you are willing to lynch is town.

[Gamma Emerald]

Lolwut
Also have seen 0 towncasing of bristep

[ChibiBear]

Discounting my reads is not the same calling myself a bad player, I have only said that once. If you'd been wrong for an entire game and had people calling you and your reads bad then you'd be discounting your reads too. I have more to say on this matter but it's personal and not really relevant to the game so remind me to mention it post-game or something.

My reads are now sure enough that I am willing to campaign for the lynch of these 2 players because it's Day 3 and I actually have information + PoE which gives me a reason to be confident in them.

I can't be bothered arguing this any further, if all you can see is me as scum hiding behind inexperience then you're more than welcome to vote me, I have no defense other than the much hated 'I am a bad player'. I've given you the 2 players I think are possible scum through process of elimination which you can reflect on once I flip town. We have the leeway to lynch 1 tomorrow and one the next day if necessary and still win.

[bristep123]

Lolwut
Also have seen 0 towncasing of bristep

Gam, why are you twitchy about me? Do you think I'm likely to be scum ahead of any of the others? It kinda bugs me but I'll tell you what's up, I led the charge on Volxen and got on board with Egix on D2. You look at my ISO initially it'll show you I'm not experienced enough to be playing that isolationist a game if I was scum.

You've had reads of your own and I haven't seen any cases from you either so lets go catch scum, Chibi or Reaper which way do you fall?

Chibi - Nobody is complaining that you're a bad player. They are ANALYSING YOUR BEHAVIOUR. You are the only one who has called yourself a bad player, or discounted your own reads. sorry if you had a bad experience in another game but as Dave says you are on day 3 still going on process of elimination with no analysis. People who are voting for you are doing so because they think you're scum. Nobody is putting you under the spotlight because they think you are a bad townie, that's totally on you I'm sorry.