Mini Normal 2046: Autumn's Farewell [Endgame]

[Creature]

Damn, I've been trolled by Spotify.

[Creature]

Okay, Spotify is playing a rad song now

[Creature]

Bring it on

[Creature]

Bow down I was crowned when they found me

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I'm wondering when we should go serious.

[Creature]

VOTE: rb

[Creature]

Cool

I'm already very confident Leodanny is town

[Creature]

The font is weird.

[Creature]

I’ve been thinking about this for a while now, while playing and reading other games. On the subject of the whole RVS thing, why do we do RVS and is it really the best? I was wondering if we could find any alternatives to RVS because the whole thing is kinda well, random, and Day 1’s feel a bit too random in my taste.

So here’s my thought process behind the point of RVS. It’s not really supposed to be random, your supposed to vote people you know to sort of reaction test them or do an early wagon, something along those ideas to basically sort the awkward people from the smooth and suave. But playing a bunch of newbie games, where half the player list is unrecognizable and awkward no matter what, because they are newbies leads me to the belief that day 1 really is just a newbie/not_mafia genocide of sorts, not a good place to kill scum, you know what I mean? And voting people you are familiar with, it’s not really fair right? People should always shake up their meta a bit to find what’s optimal, at least I do it a lot because I’m still trying to find that successful style, and I doubt anyone has perfected their game. Voting your friends and not getting the right reaction is punishing them for trying to do better, or voting your friends and getting the right reaction can lead to bad townreads (because the point of scum is to look town!)

So then I was thinking, does RVS provide anything more? There exists the claim about interactions in RVS to find associatives and stuff, but I feel like we’ve evolved as site enough to understand that RVS is too jokey to be taken seriously, it's all wifom, people who claim they found the scum team in RVS are most likely full of themselves.

Considering all of these reasons for why RVS kinda sucks, I read the wiki and some articles on RVS, and they mostly pointed to the same ideas: RVS sucks but it’s alternatives are worse. Don’t do RQS blah blah blah.

But what makes RQS garbage? Looking at the wiki article, the disadvantages are that the questions suck, but is it really that hard to create some good questions rather than begin the game with lighthearted and low pressure playstyle? If we ask the right questions, maybe RQS won’t lead us to scum, but it’s a great way to philosophically start the game, get to know how each person plays and processes the game so we don’t genocide the unfamiliar. Maybe for people unfamiliar with the player list, it’ll help a lot, and it’ll establish some basic guidelines of how people process games so in the future of the game, town can come back to the beginning and look for inconsistencies and the scum override-al of normal town behavior relative to the person.

Anyways this post was a roundabout attempt of starting a better, “enlightened” RQS rather than going with the same old RVS. Let’s start a discussion on why RQS sucks, why we do RVS. But let’s get down to the meat of the reasons why, like the fundamental ideas of your beliefs. You’ve seen my thought process of RVS and RQS, so what’s your thought process?

Pedit: I know people don't like reading large blocs of text and skip to the end, but please just read this one.

[Creature]

Kaythanks, but why?

Wow is there seriously more than four scums in this game?

I hope not.

I think you derped here.

[Creature]

Kaythanks, but why?

Wow is there seriously more than four scums in this game?

I hope not.

I think you derped here.

What do you mean?

Obviously there wouldn't have more than four scum-aligned players in a 13-players mini, it wouldn't be normal.

The way you responded is unlikely to come from scum.

[Creature]

If you want to have a theory thread, do that in General Mafia Discussion.

You don't know the theories I pull while in mafia games...

[Creature]

This feels like a newbie game.

Who is the IC here?

[Creature]

What slavic Buddhist name?

[Creature]

I need more townreads.

[Creature]

Any volunteers?

[Creature]

Hmmm

rb is probtown

[Creature]

Okay, I'll go from the beginning.

[Creature]

VOTE: creature
Its bought on

I find this towny

[Creature]

Serious votes before a third of the cast reports in.
I like it

VOTE: rb

mbaki told us to do this in scumchat

Vorkuta probtown

[Creature]

Wow is there seriously more than four scums in this game?

I hope not.

Already explained why Leodanny is town here.

[Creature]

Btw, Yyotta feels town so far

[Creature]

Cool

I'm already very confident Leodanny is town

I could see that.

Pocketing attempt?

[Creature]

I believe KMD is aligned with the town.

[Creature]

even if you think my wall post is a disaster and my ideas suck could u all still respond to it tho

thanks

I want to first go with the why do you like RVS over RQS and what fundamental beliefs led you to that. Then we can go deeper.

Okay, I shouldn't straight off townread OkaPoka as this is not game-related content

[Creature]

I am engaging with the game?

No

[Creature]

VOTE: Suka

Answer my question.

Are you a newb or not?

Wow such a damning question scum shouldn't answer this

[Creature]

Honestly all I feel like is that rb and creature are going to be a pain the ass to read.

Because we have the highest postcount here?

[Creature]

I'm thinking Oka, Nero, and DrDo as scum.

I can see it.

[Creature]

Post 82 feels towny tbh

[Creature]

im just sad because i want to test out rqs over rvs but ive been denied basically

idk, try game-related questions instead?

[Creature]

scum trying to pocket me by townreading me for saying wow

*stares at it*
*hangs on the wall*

[Creature]

wow brighteyedfish is town imo

wow

[Creature]

VOTE: DrDolittle

Also a good vote.
I don't like how this guy's playing.
Feels opportunistic.

Feels opportunistic.

[Creature]

He's specifically taking this vanity wagon and also downplaying a different one.

He moved from me, a vanity wagon, to another vanity wagon.

[Creature]

you can

but its not a town reaction

So if I have an opinion on my wagon its a scum reaction. Got it. That's some shit logic there.

I agree with Nero, that is terrible logic.

-_-

[Creature]

he's ignoring me/selectively ignoring certain questions

because he didn't answer your "are you a newb?" question?

[Creature]

It's clear who you are scumreading/voting

it's not clear why you are doing the things the way you are

Reads happen first, explanations will eventually come some time later.

[Creature]

would you lynch nero or DDL imo

press 1 for nero and 2 for DDL tbh

[Creature]

man i dont understand. every fucking game i play im scumread by half the people by page 7 regardless of alignment. is it cause im playing too loose or is my logic too poor?

I think players tend to scumread non-mellow players.

[Creature]

I would like to lynch YyottaCat.

Cool, sell us on

[Creature]

OkaPoka conf!town in my books

???

[Creature]

Oka and Vork kinda kinda feel like partners trying to force interactions.

So you believe the scumteam is Yyotta, Oka and Vork?

[Creature]

Damn, I'm collapsing on my townreads

[Creature]

Good or bad?

Bad, because if you know there are 3 scum and you have like 11 townreads (including yourself) in a 13p game, it's a sureness you're wrong.

[Creature]

Even 10 townreads feel bad tbh (specially if the three remainning don't all feel like scum), because game isn't so easy

[Creature]

Hopefully the scum will slip up, yeah?

Usually it's town that start revealing their cards first.

[Creature]

Not giving space for scum is the basic requirement to get them.

[Creature]

I think you particularly managed to feel town well enough, but the space is still fairly open for scum, so we gotta watch out.

[Creature]

I think mbaki and Kmd should also be town

[Creature]

I'm probably giving a way too easy townread on rb

[Creature]

what do you mean by reads coming before reasoning?

Reads are harder to explain than you think. You need to swim around until you find something to land your feet on.

[Creature]

memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=21997

You remind me of this player

Thought about this.

[Creature]

I dunno how to read you rn

I usually just wait

[Creature]

Guess we'll need to figure whose alt Suka is.

[Creature]

iI think he's a bit null but leaning scum.

wow why leaning scum imo

The typical "OMGUS, you're not townreading me!"

[Creature]

Guess we'll need to figure whose alt Suka is.

tbh I'll have trouble figuring whether someone is an alt or not

[Creature]

Nero Cain
rb
Varsoon

Creature
mbaki

Vorkuta

Leodanny

BrightEyedFish

OkaPoka

Suka
DrDolittle
YyottaCat

Kmd4390

[Creature]

People need to be more obvtown

[Creature]

You've been metaing me?

[Creature]

It's finally over

[Creature]

I endorse Yyotta

[Creature]

Still, talk with me

[Creature]

After a stalking of YYotta I have concluded they are likely WOTC worthy. This is very slightly more reminant of her town game. That said, I believe she is just a troll alt account of somebody.

If there's a chance she's just a troll this game then we should look elsewhere meanwhile

[Creature]

Was DrDolittle prodded?

[Creature]

Oh right, he was.

Also he doesn't feel that town anymore

[Creature]

Seeing town!rb now

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Nero feels town

[Creature]

I'm feeling idiotic doing all this alone

Someone come to back up me

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I mostly just need someone to talk with

[Creature]

i'd lynch like 5 other people before mbaki at this point, even though i think Nero is right his play isn't great i don't think the bar is very high right now

Who are these 5 mystery scummers?

yyotta
DDL
brighteyedfish
leodanny
vorkuta

if we're lynching for 'fluff content' or lack of content i think these are all more likely to flip scum than mbaki

What do you think about this list?

[Creature]

Nero Cain
rb
Varsoon
Creature
mbaki
Vorkuta
Leodanny
BrightEyedFish
OkaPoka
Suka
DrDolittle
YyottaCat
Kmd4390

What about this list?

[Creature]

Yawn

Did scum win already?

[Creature]

We should probably coordinate a quickhammer on Vorkuta

[Creature]

Okay, now I'm sure Suka is an alt atleast

[Creature]

Also I feel better about them

[Creature]

creature why hasnt ur vote changed

because I need to first find a good scumread

[Creature]

Also I do spew reads without reasoning when I can't focus in the game correctly and am just trying to negotiate the least worst lynch.

[Creature]

OkaPoka is town

[Creature]

Creature's reasoning on town Leo (51), his paranoia about rb slowly turning into a stronger townread (250, 545), his desire for more townreads (289), and his desire to interact in real time (547, 549), don't ever come from scum Creature. Why do you want to lynch him, Oka? And why don't you want to lynch Bright?

is towny

[Creature]

I mean the post is towny

Any problem if it comes from Suka?

[Creature]

Yeah, you said you townread Oka, I expected the post to be evidence of that, not evidence of Suka’s .

Hehe

Nah, I was calling Suka town too.

[Creature]

Oka is town for bugging on me the previous page

[Creature]

thanks but is there anyone that you don't townread, creature?

Varsoon
DrDolittle

for starters

[Creature]

Kmd
BEF

could also be scum

[Creature]

Sure, I could throw Yyotta, just that I don't feel very well about lynching her rn

[Creature]

what makes u less comfortable with a yyotta lynch than varsoon/ddl?

She being just a troll

[Creature]

what makes u less comfortable with a yyotta lynch than varsoon/ddl?

She being just a troll

shouldn't that make u more comfortable

at best we lynch scum
at worst we lose lylo liability

that's how im personally thinking about this unless you have a way to read trolls

Still, lynching town D1 isn't very motivating for next day

[Creature]

Okay

VOTE: DrDolittle

[Creature]

I think DrDolittle is the best lynch today

Then tomorrow I can compensate my laziness if I survive to tell the tale.

[Creature]

I only feel good lynching DrDolittle rn

every other lynch has a high chance of turning out to be a terrible mislynch

[Creature]

Laziness is not a scumtell

[Creature]

lmao didn't notice it

[Creature]

can we not have the 'meta is good/bad' discussion

What about we do the 'vorkuta lynch is good/bad' discussion?

[Creature]

Can scum confirm in this thread I am getting nightkilled tonight?

[Creature]

And Merry Christmas

[Creature]

I do enjoy my three scumreads being the 3 person wagon on me.

Amazing

[Creature]

VC 1.12

votes

[3] DrDolittle

:

Leodanny 107, Varsoon 370, Creature 656

[3] mbaki

:

YyottaCat 530, BrightEyedFish 728, Vorkuta 442

[2] YyottaCat

:

Kmd4390 23, OkaPoka 531

[2] Vorkuta

:

rb 583, Nero Cain 677

[2] BrightEyedFish

:

Suka 343, mbaki 662

[1] Kmd4390

:

DrDolittle 559

[0] Not Voting

:

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch

The Day 1 deadline is in

: (expired on 2018-12-21 12:00:59)

Mod Notes

: Hope you're having fun!

I'm gonna say: no lynch is even gonna occur here, atleast not a scum lynch.

[Creature]

I don't want to be forced to compromise on a shitty lynch.

[Creature]

You haven't been doing much either.

[Creature]

I don't remember anything you've done this game though.

[Creature]

Cool I need to vent my anger somewhere

[Creature]

VOTE: DrDolittle

[Creature]

Yah, this game is hopeless

[Creature]

More movement to the DrDolittle wagon

[Creature]

fuck off creature and leo

What now?

[Creature]

Yah, this game is hopeless

Also I'm not too clear on the self-aggrandization and this sentiment. Based on you, you have already caught one scum (despite how lazy you are playing) and will solve the game tomorrow. How is this game hopeless

No one wants to move from their pet wagon

[Creature]

Fine, Yyotta can be a compromise lynch, but then next day we fry anyone trying to stagnate the game like today.

[Creature]

the issue of game stagnation day 1 isn't low activity

its the fact that we are all so split across wagons that no credible pressure can be placed

This is what call stagnation: lack of flexibility/coordination.

[Creature]

Like, try to consensus:

Do you townread X enough?
Yes: Why? Do you have an alternative?
No: Then see who's also willing to do X

[Creature]

Hey Creature
Who da scum is?

I'm not sure on anyone rn, but I feel better lynching DrDolittle.

[Creature]

lynching yyotta is a policy-based lynch. if she flips town we have absolutely 0 to work off of.

You're right

[Creature]

okay, I probably won't mind doing Vorkuta either

[Creature]

Creature, why are you against a Bright wagon?

I'm not really against.

[Creature]

VOTE: Bright

[Creature]

Hammer what?

[Creature]

Amazing play

[Creature]

Do you have any other scumread that doesn't rely on Yyotta being scum?

[Creature]

Is it that hard to ISO the mod?

[Creature]

[4] YyottaCat : mbaki 3, BrightEyedFish 8, Suka 10, Kmd4390 23

but atleast this wagon seems interesting

[Creature]

idk, I could see D1 VCA used to identify strange masses that could have scum.

[Creature]

You can still check where's scum more likely to hop in, see who's voteparking and who's switching wagons and stuff.

[Creature]

Meh, I'm feeling pessimistic about this game.

The good known players (rb, Nero, Varsoon, Kmd) aren't doing much.

[Creature]

Your play also is bothering me in some way rn.

[Creature]

...

i dont think u are getting it

i can do all of that

but i think it would be better if i had flips to work off of

Okay, but we don't have flips

[Creature]

We now have five almost equally distributed wagons and no one seems interested in trying to consensus

[Creature]

I'm almost tempted to divide the game into five groups that can have at most 1 scum because like: why would scum try to help town consensus somewhere?

[Creature]

[4] BrightEyedFish : Suka 343, mbaki 662, DrDolittle 798, Creature 841
[3] DrDolittle : Leodanny 107, Varsoon 370, BrightEyedFish 782
[2] mbaki : YyottaCat 530, Vorkuta 442
[2] YyottaCat : Kmd4390 23, OkaPoka 531
[2] Vorkuta : rb 583, Nero Cain 677

Which is like:

{Suka, mbaki, DrDolittle, Creature}
{Leodanny, Varsoon, BrightEyedFish}
{YyottaCat, Vorkuta}
{Kmd4390, OkaPoka}
{rb, Nero Cain}

one group can't have more than 1 scum

[Creature]

I give up

VOTE: YyottaCat

[Creature]

We may as well just get rid of the players that haven't been doing shit D1

[Creature]

I'm not satisfied having a lot of unsorted players for tomorrow.

[Creature]

And I'm back to feeling bad about DrDolittle

[Creature]

Oh wait, just found out who Suka is

[Creature]

Hint: Goldsuka

[Creature]

I'm pretty sure I know, not sure about you

[Creature]

It's Ausuka

[Creature]

Ausuka and Suka looks like too much of a coincidence to be untrue though

[Creature]

VOTE: DrDolittle

L-2

[Creature]

So am I right about you being Ausuka?

[Creature]

*watches Varsoon posting elsewhere but not here*

[Creature]

Aint my fault if other threads are more interesting.

Deadline about to hit is something that should interest you.

[Creature]

unless you don't care who town lynches anyway as long it's not one of your team obviously.

[Creature]

If you're on a 2 week+ V/LA where you can't even play the game, why are you even playing?

[Creature]

Yyotta and DrDolittle are the only acceptable wagons today

Anyone off it is likely scum

[Creature]

VOTE: Yyotta

I'm fine with any

[Creature]

Actually I think it's L-2

[Creature]

18 hours in the deadline is pretty convincing

[Creature]

Not gonna do anything?

[Creature]

Yes

[Creature]

Why are you all jumping on Yyotta?

It's hard to compromise on like anywhere.

[Creature]

VOTE: Yyotta
Just to be sure, then.
It's an awful lynch, in my opinion.

Voteparking would've been pretty useful to have the lynch you want

[Creature]

rb was killed. He was a

Mafia Traitor Rolecop

.

Well, here goes my today's push

[Creature]

i think this means anyone rb suspected = town?

Noooot really

but I agree rb would more likely try to have town lynched over scum.

[Creature]

It's ok you can still push me

No, I won't.

[Creature]

Eeny, meeny, miny, moe,
Catch a tiger by the toe.
If he hollers, let him go,
My mother told me/says to pick the very best one,
and that is Y-O-U.

VOTE: Varsoon

[Creature]

Heh even if that's a guilty I won't bother voting it now because this thread just opened and I need to have fun otherwise I'll be broke trying to find somewhere else to waste my time on and then feeling depressive all again for doing something that's not useful so I think we should keep the thread alive while we solve for the last few scum because I think we got this game and we just need participation today if we don't want another bad mislynch like Yyotta even though we could've done worse (example: DDL).

[Creature]

lets just finish this game off because half the playerlist is inactive but mechanically this game is basically won

Mechanically auto isn't enough

[Creature]

VOTE: mbaki

Done posting here. Good luck town.

If you are town you wouldn't be voting yourself. And if you don't wish to play you can replace out.

Okay, I'm taking this post as a guilty retract.

[Creature]

???

[Creature]

Why?

[Creature]

Heh

Ah

Hmm

Damn my head hurts

There are players like Varsoon and Nero Cain not doing anything and this is annoying me

[Creature]

-If you are going to be V/LA, please announce it in thread or PM me. If your V/LA will last 7 days or longer I may be forced to replace you.

Two players at January 5th V/LA :/

[Creature]

Also, daily reminder that Creature is lurking.

Daily reminder you were lurking most of D1 so you can't say anything.

[Creature]

His meta tell is not do lurk, yours is, and how quick you responded implies you've actively been lurking as opposed to been busy and not on the site.

You're right, I'm waiting the right moment. I don't post when I don't feel like.

[Creature]

Wow I really need the right moment.

I just wanted to read some books, but you're right, I don't want a repeat of last day.

[Creature]

Yeah, this is the right moment

[Creature]

Creature could be scum too.

wtf is this?

[Creature]

Yes, DDL, Creature could be scum.

-_-

[Creature]

I don't like any of the sides rn.

[Creature]

I cant see lynching anything else but vork today. Not only for the flip but also for the influx of informa1tuon since everyone has taken somewhat of a stance here

This is bad

[Creature]

Ok I have like 50 questions now (most of them towards mbaki because what he says makes no sense and just comes off as anti-town)

-How am I at L-1? It takes 6 to lynch and I count 4 (DDL, mbaki, nc, & fish). Fish put me at L-2, not L-1.

-Ok really: was I the ONLY person annoyed at rb's wow's so much that I wanted to call them out on it?
But noooo it's scum!vork traitor hunting. How on earth is that a 'scum claim' or anything of the sort?

-Seriously- if you're going to use 'inexperience' as an argument for 'vork is scum', I'll do the same thing and say I'm so inexperienced I didn't even know traitor was a role. After all- 3 newbie games and no mafia 'traitors' in there.

-Why are you guys giving the lurksacks and fluffposters a huge pass and not pressuring them to say something?
Your entire game plan, reasoning, and logic basically hinges on ME to flip red, leaving you in a complete crisis with a third of the player cast unaccounted for when I flip green.

-Again: your claim to read rb's breadcrumbs is complete BS.
RB couldn't have '''crumbed''' me because I'm not scum.
How is rb's #17 ANY less valid than his alleged crumbing of me?

The way I see it: you found yourself an easy newbie scapegoat to lynch on D2.
It'll cause scum!mbaki no worries or issues whatsoever, it won't reveal ANY useful information ('oh noo suka's defending him' can go both ways and you know it), and scum is one mislynch closer to victory.

So please- can you explain to me (like I'm a complete newbie) how you got that I was """traitor-hunting""" and """scum-claiming""" from what I've said so far?

Vorkuta is lynchbait

[Creature]

Not-so-BrightFish is also town

[Creature]

I went through rb's ISO twice. First I SR Vork and mbaki and on the 2nd go through I SR vork and DDL. The common name in both reads in vork so I feel comfortable with putting vork at L-1.

VOTE: Vorkuta

Okay, maybe not so much

[Creature]

naw. Oka can totally be scum here. I don't think his being against a Vork lynch since d1 means he can't not be scum. It actually makes a ton f sense to defend your scumbuddy in a game of two scum + traitor.

I'm also thinking that a red Vork makes both Suka and DDL town. Its simple (maybe too simple) but Vork has voted all of you (mbaki), KMD and Leo. There's a chance he hasn't voted his scum buddy.

With that logic, it would mean the last scum is in Varsoon, Creature, BrightEyedFish, OkaPoka.

Bright just doesn't seem that scummy to me. I could kinda see a scum Varsoon lurking it out and there's a part of me that thinks Varsoon lurking is his scumplay b/c I've lynched him several times as lurking scum but I feel like in the last few games he's been more aggressive as scum. Creature's content has always been poor and he's being a lurksack which is totally in line with his scumplay. I think we'll find the not Vork scum in Oka, Varsoon, Creature.

It saddens me all your scumreads rely on Vorkuta flipping scum

[Creature]

Am I constructive?!?

No

[Creature]

Yes, I am not enjoying this game overly. To be 100% honest, rb was one of the few players I wanted to play with here, along with Creature and Varsoon. I read him wrong and he was removed from the game, both of which were demoralizing for me.

and apparently I haven't been putting much potential lately and Varsoon is apparently on an infinite V/LA yet still not replacing out.

Yeah, I see it.

I can change on my part if you want.

[Creature]

OkaPoka is town

[Creature]

I don't know if I actually believe that you'd want to play with Creature.

I don't know what to feel about this post.

[Creature]

When will Leodanny and Varsoon be replaced?

[Creature]

Can you explain the town read anything past lynch bait?

Congratulations, you managed to ignore an entire quote

[Creature]

That's because he gets that Vorkuta is basically guiltied by his post to rb.

If you're going to cherrypick rb's posts and """crumbs""", let me help with that

mbaki confirmed scum

Pretty sure you can pull something more damning than this.

[Creature]

I legitimately could not remember a Leodanny post without searching his iso, but because of how activity requirements work on this site I believe they are technically meeting the minimum. It is the same reason why YYotta was technically not in violation of any rule aside from the spirit of the game.

They're not meeting the atleast 1 post in 2 days minimum.

[Creature]

Well, based on your above post, you believe I'm town. I agree with you on this one, so try convincing him of that?

Sure, bring him on the thread. I need more realtime man-to-man talks.

[Creature]

i have been summoned

lets lynch mbaki

[Creature]

Can you explain the town read anything past lynch bait?

Congratulations, you managed to ignore an entire quote

What did I ignore?

Ok I have like 50 questions now (most of them towards mbaki because what he says makes no sense and just comes off as anti-town)

-How am I at L-1? It takes 6 to lynch and I count 4 (DDL, mbaki, nc, & fish). Fish put me at L-2, not L-1.

-Ok really: was I the ONLY person annoyed at rb's wow's so much that I wanted to call them out on it?
But noooo it's scum!vork traitor hunting. How on earth is that a 'scum claim' or anything of the sort?

-Seriously- if you're going to use 'inexperience' as an argument for 'vork is scum', I'll do the same thing and say I'm so inexperienced I didn't even know traitor was a role. After all- 3 newbie games and no mafia 'traitors' in there.

-Why are you guys giving the lurksacks and fluffposters a huge pass and not pressuring them to say something?
Your entire game plan, reasoning, and logic basically hinges on ME to flip red, leaving you in a complete crisis with a third of the player cast unaccounted for when I flip green.

-Again: your claim to read rb's breadcrumbs is complete BS.
RB couldn't have '''crumbed''' me because I'm not scum.
How is rb's #17 ANY less valid than his alleged crumbing of me?

The way I see it: you found yourself an easy newbie scapegoat to lynch on D2.
It'll cause scum!mbaki no worries or issues whatsoever, it won't reveal ANY useful information ('oh noo suka's defending him' can go both ways and you know it), and scum is one mislynch closer to victory.

So please- can you explain to me (like I'm a complete newbie) how you got that I was """traitor-hunting""" and """scum-claiming""" from what I've said so far?

Vorkuta is lynchbait

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i have been summoned

lets lynch mbaki

Is it still that fake crumb?

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It sounds more like you're pissed about his play, right?

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i dont think his play matches his words/tone/attitude

What?

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well I don't even know him, so how would you know?

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Yeah, and you're saying because of that he'll never self-vote as town and only as scum?

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yeah

his player type would probably look down on self voters

Can't guarantee he isn't the type of player that would self-vote and blame others later.

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This progression:

wow VOTE: mbaki naked vote scummy imo..

wow mbaki wagon so good everyone should join me imo

doesn't lead to:

wow im always serious imo

mbaki confirmed scum

specially considering:

wow found mbaki's partners imo

easy game

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VOTE: rb

Serious votes before a third of the cast reports in.
I like it

VOTE: rb

wow found mbaki's partners imo

easy game

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Can you hold on before lynching Vorkuta?

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I still have a couple more scum reads but we can deal with those tomorrow or if Vork somehow convinces me otherwise.

Why not now? Unless they depend of Vork's flip.

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Yah, it's better to wait Leodanny to finally be replaced so we can have a new perspective into this game.

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i dont know what ur pointing at creature

That there's no crumb at all and I don't intend to seek for crumbs anyway.

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If scum didn't realise it, obviously we won't realise it either.

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i mean he can add a few extra names here and there as long as he gets the point across right?

Nero Cain
Varsoon
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mbaki
Vorkuta
Leodanny
BrightEyedFish
OkaPoka
Suka
DrDolittle
Kmd4390

are all scum

I'm clearly crumbing my partners

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you know, each time I see Oka be all like "oh Vork os prob scum but lets not lynch him" just screams buddies that wants one last night action from Vork.

Oka is scumreading Vork? I thought he was on mbaki all day.