[Game Over] Open 743 - The Crown of Misery

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This game is very thematic

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Setup is scumsided so of course I roll town

zzz

VOTE: Auro

Don't worry you've got me here

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Auro (L-4)

: NotNova, DVa, Dunnstral

YyottaCat (L-6)

: Auro

Lamees (L-6)

: rb

DVa (L-6)

: Egix96

Leodanny (L-6)

: Persivul

InfernoDragon18 (L-6)

: Lamees

YyottaCat, Leodanny, InfernoDragon18,
Something_Smart, Thor665

I guess I should place a completely random vote myself, to get the game moving

VOTE: Auro

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I'm amazed I found the votecount that was posted

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Needs more buzzwords, let's make it WIFOM LAMIST with some ATE

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LAMIST is a buzzword and a bullshit tell.

true

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what does "low key being lamist" mean?

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You feel kind of like you're sidelining and sticking to tearing down other things.

Same can be said about you

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Dunnstral's post 25 I dislike a lot -- after two fluff posts, he places a "completely random vote" on *me*, when I already had two votes and my wagon was growing. I'm not seeing any real contributions from his other posts anyway, this is a slot I'd also be happy to lunch.

The wolf finally shows it's scummy little fangs

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I disagree that DVa is dodging interaction with the game, I don't feel like I have good reads on any of those players yet, except for NotNova town leaning

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Because they look like town to me so far

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I do think Auro looks like scum this game though from their recent posting

I feel NN could do what you're talking about as town

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I wasn't aware that Not_Mafia did anything in games

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Me, for my stunning insight and townie disposition

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VOTE: Lamees

wow trying so hard to be funny and relaxed like town but obvious scum imo

im so good at this game tbh wow

You didn't like DVa's earlier posts enough to have a vote on her; why start a new wagon now and break momentum?

Do you not get similar vibes from Dunnstral?

VOTE: Yvotta

Same question as above - why'd you break the momentum on my wagon, shifting it to a slot that hadn't even posted till then? Are you towning me?

This is what he said earlier, too

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Blame the RNGods, not me

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gamestate or growing wagon on me at the time?

note: we're talking about page 1

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You'd be pushing me if I voted someone other than you too

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Earlier you were asking a player why they were "making a new wagon and breaking momentum" instead of voting you

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Oh no I'm late

Reveal the undead by asking more things! Auro, who do you think is most likely to be scum?

Based on other people, VOTE: lamees, I won't know if it was l-2 or something like that

Nice iso

VOTE: YyottaCat

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I'm against a lamees lynch today

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Bad ss, hanging Lamees isn't good play since I'm pretty sure they're town and scum doesn't fake claim that role

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I think angel can be blocked by the vampire scum role though - which also feels like a pretty common scum pickup when MS meta is to claim important town power day 1 when it isn't needed. I still think lynching lamees is the wrong call though

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Bad ss, hanging Lamees isn't good play since I'm pretty sure they're town and scum doesn't fake claim that role

Seconded.

To both: what's the downside to scum fake claiming that role?

It's not a well thought out fake claim because even if people believe you it gives a mechanical reason to get lynched

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I think even if we lynch her and rb doesn't die then people will still wonder if rb is an immortal or something

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Also, I feel like scum more often does very early claims.

I disagree with this

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VOTE: DVa

i'll just come back to this tomorrow

lamees has claimed and will get sorted anyway

Weird reaction to the angel claim

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bristep does look like town

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VOTE: Leodanny

Not impressive

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Dunn, what do you think about rb's push on me?

Do you think we are TvT or not?

If I thought either of you were scum I'd be voting you

I don't believe in lynching people for being liabilities

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This isn't a tantrum, this is optimal play.

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When I was reading 2 pages ago I thought Auro was scum but now I think he is town

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I’m not neccassary seeing the issue with DVA. I want to see what the replacement does

Scummy post

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VOTE: Malakitty

You have a bad vote on lamees that you need to justify in some way now
You come in here to comment on'waiting for DVa's replacement' but miss that she was replaced on this page somehow

Looking at your post history it's clear that you should be doing more than waiting for other people anyway

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You should also go back to another game where everyone scum read me for inactivity and my clusterlack of votes and what did i do? Yep. flip town.

Hope you're not talking about witches dance because that is decidedly not what happened

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UNVOTE: Malakittens

since you're saying you didn't see the claim until now

Auro is weirding me out with his push on DVa here

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You're having trouble understanding because she wasn't playing strategical after requesting replacement

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Yes. The thing is, once you've requested to sub out, you are meant to STOP POSTING. DVa not doing that is just breaking the rules.

ok? That's not my problem, why should we vote her for that? I don't understand what the 'risk' is - I think the slot was town

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That scum pool is really bad

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Dunn
Nova

Leo

Smart
DarkLight

All town

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That scum pool is really bad

What's your scum pool?

Thor, Egix, maybe RB, maybe Leo, maybe Auro

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Thor feels like he's arguing for the sake of arguing and only talking to you, there's some POE in that read too

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What the hell?
UNVOTE:

I remember thinking this was town though

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That's nice, I never said that everybody who pushed DVa was scum though so...

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I like their content and they look like town to me

If nobody can explain why they're scum beyond 'they haven't given me a reason to townread them' then lynching them is just lazy/bad play -

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To those without a vote (Egix96, Malakitty, Dunnstral, Auro):

Read Leodanny's ISO and either vote there, or explain why you won't.

I mean, I voted him and nobody was interested

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They look like town to me, I like posts like 456 and their early stuff felt towny

VOTE: Leodanny

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Meh, Leodanny's flip is going to be as useful as his slot currently is I feel, he was hella lynchbaity in 1898 too, I definitely wouldn't want to this slot to make it to MyLo/LyLo. I think it's fine to take our chances here *shrug*

Actually stuff like this reads as kind of scummy

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his play so far has been a bit underwhelming, and that's also I wagon I'm currently fine with.

Same here

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VOTE: Malakitty

I'd rather listen to Lamees today

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Leodanny (L-3)

: Thor665, Persivul, rb, Egix96

Malakitty (L-4)

: Lamees, Auro, Dunnstral

rb (L-4)

: Leodanny, Something_Smart, DarkLightA

Egix96 (L-6)

: Nako

DarkLightA (L-6)

: bristep123

Malakitty

VOTE: Malakitty

I'd rather listen to Lamees today

Ofc you would.

What is that supposed to mean?

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but majority of the game you have been going over the LHF and lurkers.

No I haven't

Every time someone pushes you, you bring up activity

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Anybody can say words

I'm accusing you of making stuff up without having read

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Low hanging fruit: rb, lahee, dva/dla

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And we know you're only scumreading me because I voted you anyway

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Truth is 951 is to actually prove a point where you have to decide if the person is lurking for alignment reasons or if they are just legitimately busy and trying to stay active in the game and using as much of their free time as they can

Yeah but, we believed you on the activity thing (I did). What you're doing is trying to use it to show you're town!

This so much

Malakittens is deflecting by referring to her activity so often to avert any and all suspicion on her

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My iso very much does not suck ty, I've been avoiding bad wagons on town all game

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I stopped scumreading yottacat when the predeccesor started posting

I moved off of Leodanny partially because I'm not comfortable with the roster voting that wagon

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You're deflecting with your activity again

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My iso very much does not suck ty, I've been avoiding bad wagons on town all game

“I been avoiding pushing harder players because pushing those who are inactive are much easier to lynch.”

10-4 got it.


Anyways I’m really liking Thor and Dunn as possible scum

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I'd vote Egix

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Your push is bad and your victim complex makes care less about figuring you out because you're annoying

Guess what? Nobody scumread you for inactivity in Witches ball
Guess what? I townread you in that game
Guess what? You did 'throw in the towel' in that game

Yyottacat had bad content. Leodanny was unimpressive, saying I'm avoiding hard wagons and referring to dva, rb, and lamees is disengenious. Your entire play is disengenious

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No it won't

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Bad wagon tell me something new

SS I don't understand why you think I rile people up as scum

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Not worth speculating on

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Rather I've given my reads so don't act like you're asking meaningful questions right now

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Also, I didn't rile up Mala, she just jumps at the opportunity to turn herself into the victim, it's actually very different if you look at it closely

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Bad ss, hanging Lamees isn't good play since I'm pretty sure they're town and scum doesn't fake claim that role

I think angel can be blocked by the vampire scum role though - which also feels like a pretty common scum pickup when MS meta is to claim important town power day 1 when it isn't needed. I still think lynching lamees is the wrong call though

people who talk setup spec without doing much else are usually scum

That's like the only time I've talked setup spec, not sure what you're getting at

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