[Game Over] Open 743 - The Crown of Misery

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wow VOTE: Lamees imo

first person to naked vote always scum 187% success rate imo

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VOTE: Leodanny

Not random BTW.

why is it not random imo

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what is this, a vote count for ants?

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You've not found it very difficult to townsort me in our previous (completed) games, so why the "RVS" vote on me?

I'm blaming you for talking me into joining this game and then having the audacity to let MDS roll me town.

wow this sucks imo

VOTE: DVa

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wow dead game imo

time to go pretend i'm a cat tbh

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@rb: You use "imo" a lot

@Leo: Hi! Hope you're more proactive this game.

@Egix: So you're finding the cynicism scummy -- I'm not particularly feeling she'd fake that as scum, although the tone does bother me slightly.

wow so true imo..

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wow im gonna go ahead and say that the persivul thing probably is NAI and following it is dumb imo

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wow probably roleblocker imo

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Leodanny (L-4)

: Persivul, Thor665, Auro

DVa (L-4)

: Egix96, Lamees, rb

Auro (L-4)

: NotNova, DVa, Dunnstral

YyottaCat, Leodanny, InfernoDragon18,
Something_Smart

wow so true imo

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wow so true imo..

immortal would allow for high iq open world play imo

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why are we talking about setups though imo

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wow so true imo

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VOTE: Lamees

wow trying so hard to be funny and relaxed like town but obvious scum imo

im so good at this game tbh wow

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DVa (L-4)

: Egix96, Lamees, NotNova

Leodanny (L-4)

: Persivul, Thor665, Auro

Auro (L-5)

: Dunnstral, Leodanny

Lamees (L-6)

: rb

NotNova (L-6)

: DVa

YyottaCat, InfernoDragon18, Something_Smart

VOTE: Lamees

wow trying so hard to be funny and relaxed like town but obvious scum imo

im so good at this game tbh wow

You didn't like DVa's earlier posts enough to have a vote on her; why start a new wagon now and break momentum?

Do you not get similar vibes from Dunnstral?

wow i just vote whoever i think has the best chance of flipping scum on day1 imo

momentum not even real until close to deadline imo

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wow so true imo

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Wait why would someone that's funny and relaxed be town? I think this is you low key being lamist as scum here. You have been pushing the "funny" angle all game with your posts, and I guess relaxed too? So yeah you just exposed yourself imo.

VOTE: rb

wow sorry that i'm naturally funny and relaxed imo

i can give you lessons if you pay me tbh

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wow so true imo

What is?

yes

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what does "low key being lamist" mean?

If you look at post 107, rb claims to be relaxed and funny. Then says relaxed and funny is town (it's not lol). So instead of just outright saying they are town, rb instead opted for a more hidden/scummy way of lamist, and thus voting me in the process. Not sure why town would lamist and misrep in the same post. I think we found one scum.

wow that's impressively convoluted imo

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wow why is leodanny scum imo

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wow so true imo

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wow people should join me on the lamees wagon imo

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wow people should join me on the lamees wagon imo

No

wow press 1 for yes and 2 for yes imo

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So, rb, what do you use imo as?

wow so true imo

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Herro y’all I’m going to be here later I skimmed and I see some familiar faces

I look forward to killing all of the scum for u

i townread mala

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What's your case? Random wagon that is clearly scum driven.

That's an interesting statement, considering rb is the only vote on you. Why did you say that as though you were close to lunch range?

I just want to know what his case is. Since he's now also trying to gather support.

wow all you've done all game is say acronyms as if they mean stuff and then do some pointless setup spec imo

wow and then after i voted you for having had ample opportunity to actually do stuff that wasn't pointless you have a meltdown imo

sorry you're so obvious as scum imo

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wow we should all vote lamees imo

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town intro post

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wow lamist is not even a thing stop using it imo

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Leodanny (L-4)

: Persivul, Thor665, Auro

DVa (L-5)

: Egix96, NotNova

Auro (L-5)

: Dunnstral, Leodanny

rb (L-6)

: Lamees

Lamees (L-6)

: rb

NotNova (L-6)

: DVa

YyottaCat, Malakitty, Something_Smart

How many scum are in this group of 3 players?

YyottaCat
NotNova
Malakitty

This question is meant for everyone right? I would guess one but it could be two.

wow who is the one and who would the two be imo

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i think NotNova is a bad wagon to do at this point in time

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How many scum are in this group of 3 players?

YyottaCat
NotNova
Malakitty

actually i really hate this

it's just the 3 least active players

one is VLA, one just replaced in, one joined the game late

VOTE: DVa

back to this, lamees can wait for now

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why would you not try and focus on the players actually posting?

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this just looks like a way of dodging interacting with the game

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reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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wow back to not taking mafia seriously imo

too hard tbh

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wow am i talking to the scumteam right now imo

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VOTE: lamees

wow i've changed my mind on dva again

stop being hard to read imo

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wow finally a good player in the game

join me on lamees wagon imo

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Based on other people, VOTE: lamees, I won't know if it was l-2 or something like that

wow

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imo

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Anyway, this is def not town malakitty. Town malakitty was less aggressive with pushes and was more prone to sheep other players. (In the game we played together at least). Then again I'm not really gonna call her scum just off meta/one previous game together.

I also don't see why yyottacat got so much backlash? Weren't you guys going for a lamees lynch? What if yyotta just bought malakitty's case and joined.

"this is def not town malakitty"
"i'm not really gonna call her scum just off meta/one previous game"

pick one

also the reason you can't see what's wrong with yyotta's post is because you're not town

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And she's actually posting content, unlike Leodanny/Yvottacat.

wow where is this mystical lamees content imo..

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wow so true imo

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wow you're either with me or against me imo

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wow sorry that was just a copy paste from my anakin skywaker impressions imo

i would be more okay with people being on the fence if they had a direction that wasn't just being on the fence

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I mean, he’s just saying wow
Imo
True
One
Vote lamees
Two

wow so true imo

vote lamees

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Wow so lamees first and dva next

mafia so easy imo

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I rolled angel though

pls no one counterclaim this fake claim imo

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wow real power roles stay quiet imo

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i hope thor isn't scum because i don't wanna have to start reading his posts

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wow can we cop check thor and auro just because i started reading their interactions and now i have depression imo

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i tried

too hard tbh

cop checks on both imo

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Lamees (L-3)

: rb, Malakitty, YyottaCat, Persivul

Leodanny (L-4)

: Thor665, Auro, Egix96

rb (L-5)

: Lamees, Leodanny

NotNova (L-6)

: DVa

DVa (L-6)

: NotNova

YyottaCat (L-6)

: Dunnstral

Something_Smart

i tried

too hard tbh

cop checks on both imo

How do you know a cop exists? Feels a bit like TMI.
If you're scum who knows cop exists, these posts make me think you have a framer as well.
If you didn't bother reading our exchange properly, why do you not think it could be TvT?

wow who can actually be fucked reading that obnoxious interaction imo

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wow dont ask antitown questions imo

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wow either im misunderstanding or you think im scum, but shouldnt you be voting me if that's the case imo

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wow real power roles stay quiet imo

JUST STOP THE FUCKING WOWs and IMOs PLEASE.

wow i lost a bet and i'm now allowed to imo

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One. That Persivul saying that people with scummy playstyles should get lynched amounts to victim blaming.

wow i don't wanna play this game anymore imo

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I rolled angel though

pls no one counterclaim this fake claim imo

You're not at all concerned that it could be a real claim?

not really tbh, lamees sucks

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if they are actually angel and town, i welcome the vengekill to get me out of this tbh

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VOTE: DVa

i'll just come back to this tomorrow

lamees has claimed and will get sorted anyway

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if they are actually angel and town, i welcome the vengekill to get me out of this tbh

Lol oops. Looks like you slipped.

having a hard time believing that you're this stupid

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oh right, lmao i don't even read mechanics hey

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it gives me physical pain to read lamees' ISO and try to interpret them as town

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DVa (L-4)

: NotNova, Persivul, rb

Leodanny (L-4)

: Thor665, Auro, Egix96

Lamees (L-5)

: Malakitty, YyottaCat

rb (L-5)

: Lamees, Leodanny

NotNova (L-6)

: DVa

YyottaCat (L-6)

: Dunnstral

Something_Smart

so you, as the angel, for some reason didn't want to risk getting lynched as an angel with a smite mechanic...the whole point of your role?

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oh my god make it stop

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*claims angel at L-4 on day1*

*lectures other players about how to play the game*

hehe

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now i remember why i stopped playing mafia

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so are you going to actually do anything in the game now that you're claiming a PR?

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holy fuck i can't even tunnel him and get myself out of the game

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"Angel gets a kill-therefore we should lynch day 1"

That's basically saying I should gamble on 3/9 odds. Nice work.

How is it random odds when you have such a strong scum read on rb?

EXACTLY

FUCK

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Lol if you think angel should be lynched day 1 then please go back to posting "wow imo" posts.

We don't know that you're angel.

Why do you scum read rb so hard, yet wouldn't say that he'd be your smite target?

Why would angel want to keep its smite target secret, thereby depriving town of valuable information in the event the target survived? Yes, GF is a possibility, but it's still valuable info.

Well he literally said angel should be lynched so that it can kill scum lol. That's separate from me being angel.

You're forgetting the amount of scum power roles out there, can't just name a target.

ahahaha

ahahahhahahahahaha

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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new and exciting direction for the game coming right up

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VOTE: Dunnstral

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more dunnstral votes tbh

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mala is a terrible lynch

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because it's not a dunnstral lynch

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also because mala's likely town

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more dunnstral votes please

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entered game, made multiple good observations, placed good vote when other more opportunistic votes were there to be had and plenty of fluff to talk about yet didn't. made no attempt to 'look' town, just did town things

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rb (L-4)

: Lamees, Leodanny, Egix96

Lamees (L-4)

: Malakitty, YyottaCat, Persivul

Leodanny (L-6)

: Thor665

DVa (L-6)

: NotNova

Dunnstral (L-6)

: rb

NotNova (L-6)

: DVa

YyottaCat (L-6)

: Dunnstral

Something_Smart, Auro

Game Mechanics

If an angel is lynched, the smite resolves during twilight and before nightfall.
Ghosts cannot affect the outcome of smiting during the day.

Guys, this means we *can* use Lamees' day smite as a cop (barring immortals) since the ghost can't frame someone, right?

i'd lynch auro if he keeps talking about mechanics tbh

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people who talk setup spec without doing much else are usually scum

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Also notice rb seems to have stopped the whole "wow... imo" crap after Lamees' claim

wow so true imo

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wow someone who gives limited but good content is much better to keep in the game than someone who posts more and is bad imo

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wow can we just lynch dunnstral already imo

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so sad can't even express my hilarious and lovable personality

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well i pretty clearly have opinions on who not to lynch as well so the idea that it's random is obviously wrong

also would you not also prefer to lynch someone else? i don't get it

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As far as I can tell from reading rb's ISO, their vote against Dunnstral came completely out of left field, as they had not previously expressed any real suspicion towards him. That's what seems random about it.

egix isnt the scum on my wagon fwiw

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i was too busy trying to get lamees lynched

also wagons are good

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although tbh i think you should look at dunnstrals ISO and once you're done vomiting at it you'll see why i want to lynch him

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To be honest, I have literally no idea how to parse anything rb has done this game. I played with him a while ago and he was nothing like this. That's another reason I want him out of the game...

if someone isn't the same as they were over 6 months (?) agp, they must be scum.

smart imo

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VOTE: DVa

fine with this even though dunnstral is better

id like everyone's opinion on dunnstral tbh, i find it amazing he's not being scumread. read his ISO, garbage

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you're talking, dunnstral isn't

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VOTE: rb

Play better or get mislynched

um

this makes me very comfortable with my vote actually

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So I guess this goes back to your thing all day, which is that you want to reward the lurky, non-presence players by pushing anyone who tries to interact with them?

And in the meantime, taking pressure off Dunn, when your interaction with him might have made it easier for other people in the game to read either one of you?

k

this doesn't even make sense

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literally my mouth is agape at how fucking stupid that reasoning is, that i can only see it as a bad excuse for an omgus vote

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I'm looking for people who I see little reason to townread right now. We have a lot of annoying lynchbaity players right now so I'm more interested in players with noncommittal attitudes tbh

Not entirely sure I follow your reasoning on why you would prefer my vote to be on you if Mala is basically null to you

You couldn't sort me because I wasn't around — so let's make up for lost time until you're satisfied. If your presented nullpool is {me, Mala} that only matters when we run up for a final lynch.

Essentially I'd rather you not keep me null. Do you think there are any players you find scummy/towny enough to have an opinion on, outside of us two?

in fact you just completely fucking dodged NotNova when they came off V/LA to interact with you, and as they aptly pointed out: you tried to interact with someone who was already on V/LA?

i'm not voting 'anyone who tries to interact with lurky low-presence slots'

lamees doesn't fit that criteria, and dunnstral actually is one of the lurky low-presence slots

you're the only fucking person i've voted, and the reasons have much more to do with the fact that what you're clearly doing is pretending to be playing the game, by having interactions that will quite obviously lead nowhere and amount to nothing, by discussing players who haven't posted much less than halfway through day 1 deadline, one if which was a replace, another which was on V/LA and one that honestly appears to just be a troll account

town don't sit around making a point of pretending to have interactions in the game, they just..interact

lynch this pos scum jfc

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You've mostly just been rude and obnoxious this game and your reads are terrible so it's not an omgus vote, you're starting to convince me you're a liability to town.

found the scum

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you're voting the 2nd most active slot in the game and complaining that i'm the one "not putting pressure on lurker slots"

even though i was actively calling for wagons on two of the most low activity slots in the game..just not the brand new replacement or the player on V/LA...

wow holy shit

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lamees doesn't fit that criteria, and dunnstral actually is one of the lurky low-presence slots

who you just fucking moved off for ???? reasons

i've been scumreading you most of this game, so i'd gladly take a wagon on either you or dunn

considering that we've actually interacted over the fact i scumread you multiple times this game, it's fucking insane that you're trying to make out that i'm just randomly switching to some misc. wagon

also i was the _ONLY_ person voting dunnstral and about 6 people between my vote and the time i'd moved had all not decided to join the wagon. i'm not going to sit around on a wagon at L-6 - it doesn't generate any pressure anyway.

however, if you'd like to join the dunn wagon with me, feel free

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rb (L-3)

: Lamees, Leodanny, Egix96, Something_Smart,
DVa

Lamees (L-4)

: Malakitty, bristep123, Persivul

DVa (L-5)

: NotNova, rb

Leodanny (L-6)

: Thor665

Dunnstral (L-6)

: rb

bristep123 (L-6)

: Dunnstral

Auro

And you're acting like being the only one on Dunn was bad, that's what I don't get

lol are you real

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lot of things will come from an L-6 wagon, don't worry!

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um, have we played mafia together before, i don't think we have

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lol are you real

Why not actually press for reasoning from the slots who basically have said nothing until the last 24 hours?

'ask the people who don't talk what they think'

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You're acting like there were really stable, well-developed wagons with clearly articulated reads

ah yes, and the solution to not having these is to sit as the lone voter on a wagon instead of joining another wagon you also think is on scum, to make it more stable

you're a genius

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um, have we played mafia together before, i don't think we have

why would this matter

you seem to be expecting me to do things that i've never done in a mafia game ever, like ask lurker slots for their opinions and wait 4 days for an answer

i actually don't have that much of a problem sorting lurker slots. e.g. i think mala is town, notnova is town enough to live for day 1

i'm much more concerned with where people vote than asking pointless questions.

then again, it's probably hard for you to understand that because you're scum

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Every time you switch off a lurker to push someone who is talking *only because they are talking* you give the lurkers REASON to lurk

This game is basically unreadable because NO ONE IS EXPLAINING JACK SHIT in their reads, and that is because the lurkers are giving a hard pass for NO REASON

maybe you're just bad at getting reads then

because mala has down a lot more alignment indicative stuff in 1/5th of dunnstral's posts, when dunnstral is more than capable of actually doing things as town. i don't really have that much issue reading any of the low activity slots in the game currently

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'ask the people who don't talk what they think'

YES

Do you not fucking get that?

GET THEM

TO TALK

Saying "I'm voting you because you're talking" is the stupidest fucking thing I think I've seen all day

okay, there's no way you're actually that fucking stupid

it doesn't provide any pressure for me to sit on dunnstral if no one is going to join the wagon

switching to the wagon of another scumread because they're likely to interact is much better for the gamestate

and to that point - hey look, we just had a whole lot of interactions, and why? wow because i switched votes!

dunnstral wasn't talking and likely wouldn't have, but you did and if i get lynched today - absolutely lynch DVa tomorrow, no questions asked. 100% fucking scum

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Dunn is also capable of doing things as scum

In fact I would say Dunn 'does stuff' more as scum than he does as town sometimes, although it also depends on the playerlist, which is precisely why seeing him interact with other people might be productive.

If you think Dunn just defaults to scum because he is not super active then you're vastly underestimating his scum range. I don't think a push there is unwarranted but you're basically saying that he's scummy for little content when slots like Mala that as far as I can tell have exclusively pushed wagons on town and done 0 sorting are town

and is bristep readable to you?

bristep obvtown

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mala also obvtown

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you seem to take something i say, then interpret it in the absolute worst way fucking possible for some reason. i'm trying to not smash my head on my desk over and over, by keeping in mind that you are, really fucking obvious scum right now, but it's hard

just because i think dunn can do stuff as town, doesn't mean i'm not aware he can do stuff as scum too. the problem is, he's not doing stuff _at all_ - nothing that he's doing is alignment indicative, he's just taking potshots about mechanics and unimportant stuff from the sideline. in fact if you have such a problem with dunn, why are YOU not voting him with me?

you're basically complaining about me voting dunnstral, when you agree he should have votes on him, but you're upset that i moved to your wagon instead. nothing that you're saying even looks town, because you don't really give a shit about reads it seems, you're just conveniently getting on current the biggest wagon in the game and pretending it's not OMGUS

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it doesn't provide any pressure for me to sit on dunnstral if no one is going to join the wagon

switching to the wagon of another scumread because they're likely to interact is much better for the gamestate

and to that point - hey look, we just had a whole lot of interactions, and why? wow because i switched votes!

yeah and if you're town then this is TvT and all you've done is made me annoyed at you to the point that your will have a harder time reading me because you have lost your credibility

You are acting like no one was ever going to join on Dunn. Maybe you could have explained your reasoning more, asked for other people to give reads on the slot, etc. etc.

But switching to a player I know is town right after a null lurker slot comes out of the woodwork and votes me looks opportunistic and damages my read of you

it also makes it seem like you are uninterested in genuinely sorting Dunn

this is dumb as fuck

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WHERE THE FUCK DID I SAY I WAS VOTING YOU FOR ACTIVITY

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wow, yes

the sole reason i voted you is because you posted, you're right

do you have basic comprehension or not?

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if only i had 12 votes, i'd vote everyone in this game at once because they all posted at some point

if you post in this game, i will vote you

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in fact if you have such a problem with dunn, why are YOU not voting him with me?

What if I was actually considering that before your completely shit vote on me?

so you'd only vote Dunn if someone else was first?

well i guess scum don't want to draw attention to themselves so it makes sense

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fuck it

i'm just gonna smash my head against the wall until i'm too dazed to do anything but sleep at this point

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VOTE: rb

lynch me please

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yep, and when im lynched and flip town, you lynch DVa tomorrow

i'm not sitting here having arguments that make me self harm

you're obviously scum, probably with dunnstral.

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no, i'd prefer you vote me so i can be out of this game

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VOTE: DVa

last person to talk, should vote them imo

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have to wait until he's the most recent poster to vote him

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VOTE: Egix96

last person to talk

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what do you mean?

DVa said i was voting people for talking, so i'm demonstrating what that actually looks like

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DVa can you make a post please, so i can put my vote on you?

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rb (L-3)

: Lamees, Leodanny, Something_Smart, DVa

DVa (L-4)

: NotNova, Egix96, rb

Lamees (L-4)

: Malakitty, bristep123, Persivul

Leodanny (L-5)

: Thor665, Dunnstral

Auro

VOTE: DVa

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pagetop naked vote means everyone has to sheep it

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yeah i agree don't let DVa coast

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malakittens isn't being manipulative though, so how can she be a cunning manipulator?

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er no

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VOTE: Dunnstral

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wow join the dunnstral wagon imo

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i have too many townreads actually

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if my scumreads aren't scum then my townreads be wrong

fuk sake

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it's 2am and i can't be bothered starting to re-read everyone's ISO again

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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i actually wanna talk to dva's replacement

if i'm reasonably around when they join, let me talk to them first pl0x

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i'm sheeping mala

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can you read words or nah

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mala please come back and solve the game

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@rb: why are you so sure I’m town.??

you entered the game and saw problems with the same things i did, and your tone is very town

i've also been saying it a lot because i was wanting to see if you'd question my townread on you (not scummy) or if you'd just let it slide and accept it (scummy)

as i see it, if you'd never asked 'why?' i townread you, i'd slowly get more worried that you'd never once stopped to question it. i think that if you never had, that'd be a pretty good indicator of being scum because it'd show pretty definitively that you're not really taking an interest in what people's alignments are, but more of what their perception of yours is - which i'm fairly confident isn't the case and you're town

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How does that interaction make him look like town?

I'll have to take a deeper look at his ISO later, but why I felt so:
RB didn't give me a great impression through the game until that point -- he was kinda trolling around and annoying people early game, and it looked to me like this "rile people up and make them look bad" was a strategy he was following and finding success in, with Lamees. His reaction to her claim was also bad too, AFAIR, and looked scummy. The slip made him look bad, too.

However, he expressed frustration and seriousness during his DVa exchange -- something I'm not able to fit as part of a scum agenda for him. Clearly DVa was attracting votes (even if for meh reasons) and he wasn't being scumread, so I fail to see why he would go to the extent of faking said frustration in that context. I don't think it's likely here that scum!RB gets frustrated genuinely especially considering his prior play.

Either he was scum playing with a strategy of riling people up and suddenly decided to backtrack in the case of DVa, or was town who was trolling around and got genuinely frustrated at DVa. The latter seems a lot simpler to me, and thus likelier.

Furthermore, it's also very unlikely for DVa vs RB to be SvS considering that was one of the factors that led to her replacing out, so if DVa's slot is scum, that effectively clears RB. On the other hand, if DVa's slot is town, it means DVa herself seemed to not scumread RB post interaction. This makes me incline more towards believing that RB is town.

Occam's razor is rarely useful in mafia

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im depressed again

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pls no more Thauro665

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Town-
Leodanny

Null-
Bristep123
Dunnstral
Nako
Egix96

Scum-
Auro
Persivul
Malakitty
Rb
Something_smart
DLA
Thor

lol

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is auro pocketing me

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Leodanny (L-4)

: Thor665, Persivul, Dunnstral

rb (L-4)

: Leodanny, Something_Smart, DarkLightA

Malakitty (L-5)

: Lamees, Auro

DarkLightA (L-5)

: Nako, bristep123

Dunnstral (L-6)

: rb

Egix96, Malakitty

im townreading thor at this point

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i mean, if we're consolidating between mala and leo

VOTE: leo

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i often suggest who i think a potential cop or vig should target

because reasons

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realistically the cop should just check whoever they think is likely to be scum or someone they think can't be sorted easily

at the time i thought there was a good chance of that in you and thor - and tbh i still kinda do

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wow can we just lynch dunnstral

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why does everyone hate the way dunnstral is playing and yet his wagon never gains traction?

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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this is the most insufferable day1 i've ever endured

i don't want to lynch mala since she's my strongest townread. if i have to choose between a mala wagon or any other wagon, i would choose the other. if she's scum, she's the only player making ANY fucking sense without having 10000 wallposts to have to read through

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i really just find the idea that scum!mala enters the game, has reads and thoughts that make sense and that she continues the game the way she has if scum

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i find the idea ridiculous that she's scum despite making actual sense in the game

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VOTE: Dunnstral

yeet

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whoa that's a really bad post

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how the fuck are people scumreading mala over leo as well

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i prefer a leo/dunn lynch at this point

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also creature is prob town js

Considering that Creature is known for posting less as scum, I'm inclined to agree wth you here.

old meme

but yah this is probably town creature

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wow but don't you want day1 to get to 50 pages first?

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im scum because i said a thing i say in nearly all the games i play when there's wallposters that i don't wanna sort

*slow clap*

gotta go to work now so no time to post more right now, but i'm pretty happy with how fast my wagon's built

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Also can someone explain me the Auro and rb can't be town together part?

lamees is making shit up

explained

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VOTE: lamees

the lynch we should have stayed on despite the garbage claim

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tfw the actual cop doesn't suspect that my 'cop' comment is a scumslip, but we're listening to a player who claimed a PR at L-4, over a week from deadline

haHAA

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too many degrees in melbourne to argue on the internet again imo

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"rb is town, but i will vote him anyway"

haHAA

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i find it really strange how you omit the posts where i do point out why i'm voting the people i voted

i don't get it? are you dumb or just scum?

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lamees you're just throwing shit at the wall and hoping it'll stick

yesterday (game yesterday) i was "confirmed scum" but then you wanted to lynch mala

then i was "horribad town" and apparently a policy lynch

now im "too bad to be town"

so if we'd lynched mala and she flipped town, then what? honestly wtf

protip: the people we should be focussing on imo are the people who were on both the mala + dunn wagons

ill look at it later

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well that's definitely odd

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that's literally how i play every single fucking game

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because how other people react to my reads also matters to me, and i don't want to get bogged down into stupid conversations about what is or isn't a viable reason to scum/townread someone in the first part of day1

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wow who cares actually imo

VOTE: Thor

pretty good vote

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game so boring

can we do exciting things

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why do i have so few townreads, worst game ever

town: mala, creature, egix

scum: rest of the game tbh

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i'll lynch anyone not named mala, creature or egix

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oh wow wait a second

dunnstral and mala were both counter-wagons to leo right?

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VOTE: Leodanny

i wanna lynch that guy

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oh hey the worst is a backup mod

hi the worst i see you in the iso list

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rb (L-3)

: Thor665, Something_Smart, Lamees

Lamees (L-5)

: DarkLightA

DarkLightA (L-5)

: Egix96

Malakitty (L-5)

: Auro

Auro (L-5)

: Creature

Leodanny (L-5)

: rb

Nako, Leodanny, Malakitty

hmm

good point, both you and S_S are probably scum

VOTE: auro

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i'm gonna go with

auro/S_S/leodanny

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VOTE: Thor

wow so many bad posts

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I'm mad when mod is like:

someone: I'll V/LA over two weeks
mod: Fine I won't bother you to play the game two weeks then

wow this cracked me up and then i realised it was actually this game

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too much effort

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can someone just do town stuff so we can PoE lynch

tia

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we should lynch in

thor/auro/SS/leodanny

who am agree?

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can someone just do town stuff so we can PoE lynch

tia

Looks like my presence doesn't matter at all.

you're in townpile along with mala and egix

but that leaves a lot unsorted

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too much effort

Color me unsurprised.

@Creature - if you really town read this dreck you probably ought to get back in here and defend the hell out of it. Otherwise it's an awesome lynch.

the lynch is awesome, unless Creature defends it

top notch scumposting

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for real spat out my water laughing when i read that

How To Identify Awesome Lynch
- Creature defends it? Not awesome
- Creature doesn't defend it? Awesome

ok m8

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im more curious why Thor suddenly holds your opinion in such high esteem

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that's just...the worst

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I think DLA is right and Lamees is lynchproof tbh

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literally the only reason anyone townreads them at all is because they've claimed angel

i don't think a single person actually townread lamees on day1

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A generally townread player who's a claimed PR -- do you really think that's a brilliant ML for scum to push?

Can you describe what makes Lam town to you? And why she can't be scum executing what I agree is a great strat?

- That's... actually a very good point, I hadn't thought of that.

- Some posts of Lamees's that make me think she's town:

1143 - Refuses to hammer a townie

1179 - I think it's unlikely a member of the scum would give any indication of which roles their team has. Even if the intent is to mislead town by saying the scum have those roles when they actually don't. (TBF I have seen that happen before - NFM 62 - but that was on another site.)

1221 - I've already commented on this one, but to add to what I said - would scum really be that open in saying that town are on course to lose the game?

I will say though, if I am wrong about her and she is scum who's only pretending to be an angel, then I can't fault her for being so committed to it.

scared to hammer is often scum for the same reason that people who sheep wagons are usually scum as well. scum rarely want the attention of being either the hammer or the beginner of their own independent wagon, it's the most polarising spots to be on.

so you've seen that happen before, and ime scum will often make mechanics talk because they want to try and covertly learn more about the mechanics of the game

yes, scum would fake frustration in order to look town? obviously?

last bit gives me the heebie majeebies

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wow i wish leodanny was a player in this game

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yes, scum would fake frustration in order to look town? obviously?

It didn't read like frustration to me though.

um

what does it read as to you then?

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egix: opinions on thor pls

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okay, so who's town and who's scum den

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mala pls

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Tbh flailing is probably not even really a thing. But what rb was doing fits that word nicely so I used it.

wowee how confbiased are you right now

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even though i play like this all the time, i'm flailing because...i guess it makes it a convenient excuse for you to confbias?

que sera?

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wow so true imo