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Post Post #951 (isolation #0) » Tue Nov 13, 2018 6:12 am

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(f)
Finish work in 4hours, catch up after
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Post Post #964 (isolation #1) » Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:56 am

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Base camp. page 20, lots of interesting things happening and ruby has just subbed in...
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Post Post #965 (isolation #2) » Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:47 pm

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In post 509, Performer wrote:Sup cunts
FML
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Post Post #966 (isolation #3) » Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:23 pm

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UNVOTE


Gonna need those two days
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Post Post #967 (isolation #4) » Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:27 pm

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Spoiler:


Funny shit.
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Post Post #968 (isolation #5) » Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:29 pm

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VOTE: ELSA
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Post Post #969 (isolation #6) » Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:29 pm

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FOS Purrcocet
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Post Post #971 (isolation #7) » Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:37 pm

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How do you like my attempts to derail the current gamestate?
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Post Post #973 (isolation #8) » Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:45 pm

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Is this the part where you tell me its all a breadcrumb laden facade?
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Post Post #975 (isolation #9) » Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:50 pm

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What if you get dead on night 2?
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Post Post #979 (isolation #10) » Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:08 pm

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How do you like my vote on all that jelly but no toast?
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Post Post #983 (isolation #11) » Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:14 pm

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I stopped looking after 'dishonesty' or whatever you softed
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Post Post #986 (isolation #12) » Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:29 pm

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In post 985, Snowman wrote:Alonzo, is there any reasoning behind your Elsa vote beyond "derailing the gamestate"?
Given the hour of my arrival into the game, its part of a larger intel sweep..

Whats your read on Elsa?
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Post Post #989 (isolation #13) » Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:34 pm

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Reckon you can help me sort Maria?
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Post Post #991 (isolation #14) » Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:39 pm

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@snowman
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Post Post #993 (isolation #15) » Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:57 pm

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Cos shes feisty. I'v not played with Maria before so I'v no idea what the motivation is RN
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Post Post #994 (isolation #16) » Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:59 pm

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In post 58, Snowman wrote:Merry Christmas!

VOTE: Carcalilly
Ok last one... wats your history like with Carca?
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Post Post #996 (isolation #17) » Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:03 pm

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Hi Chara!

who are you voting and why?
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Post Post #999 (isolation #18) » Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:12 pm

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In post 997, Chara wrote:UNVOTE:
so i've finally given Performer's ISO that nice secondary sweep...
and now i'm scumreading Almost. so, well. oops?

pedit: i was voting Performer because i found their entrance scummy, but now i am not.
Ya that entry was terribad, but we should torture him over the next few weeks/months for it. Killing him today is too much of a let off.
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Post Post #1002 (isolation #19) » Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:17 pm

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In post 1000, Snowman wrote:
In post 994, Alonzo wrote:
In post 58, Snowman wrote:Merry Christmas!

VOTE: Carcalilly
Ok last one... wats your history like with Carca?
Mmmmmm.... it's limited. Don't want to go into it too much b/c I want to keep this alt semi-private, but there's nothing that juts out too much from the town play I have seen from her. Have any reads of your own yet?
I consider this a tight field of players, no ones jumping out RN, but I have a preferred lynch order based on meta Im keen to explore.
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Post Post #1005 (isolation #20) » Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:19 pm

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Yeh, on top of catching up I'v got half a dozen players I want to dive, Joey being one.
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Post Post #1007 (isolation #21) » Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:24 pm

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Hmm Either aggressively policy lynching Not mafia or reducing Radiant cowbells to tears most likely... :\
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Post Post #1008 (isolation #22) » Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:31 pm

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@Ruby are you an alt?
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Post Post #1013 (isolation #23) » Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:43 pm

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Did almost make the post about 'scum creature wouldn't open like this'?? I recall it being quite poignant on my read through
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Post Post #1029 (isolation #24) » Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:31 pm

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In post 1026, Almost50 wrote:@Alonzo: No offense, but I watched you come into a game I was NK'd in well determined to tunnel me to death. I watched you come into another game, and you really didn't do much better either. And now this tunnel on EJ. Mate, are you ever going to play for the Town? Because unless you're scum in this game you are playing for them for the 3rd game running.

Again; NO OFFENSE INTENDED. Just please try to change your scum hunting ways given your usual procedure doesn't net you any prizes at all.
Did Town lose any of those games?
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Post Post #1031 (isolation #25) » Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:41 pm

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Ah right, the one I subbed in and called the scumteam before getting NK'd..

That game was a stalled stalemate.. FFS.
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Post Post #1032 (isolation #26) » Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:46 pm

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Sure I do get it wrong sometimes, but those are really bad examples of that....
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Post Post #1034 (isolation #27) » Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:52 pm

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I'l tell you why I started there after the game.

Sell me on Dunns if you can??
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Post Post #1036 (isolation #28) » Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:00 pm

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Is this True Dunn? Are you the unsortable sort?
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Post Post #1045 (isolation #29) » Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:14 pm

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In post 977, Purrcocet wrote:
In post 969, Alonzo wrote:FOS Purrcocet
I run shit here

U just live here
Do any of you know what this means?

It means damn flyboy you sexy.
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Post Post #1046 (isolation #30) » Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:22 pm

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In post 1044, Dunnstral wrote:Lady Angel is really scummy on reread
Manateedude was very scummy
So thats Eight scum by your count?

Let me guess... anyone who has Ignored/Not voted you are your town reads?
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Post Post #1048 (isolation #31) » Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:27 pm

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Ok.

I think I'm slowly getting a grasp on the wagonomic climate around here.
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Post Post #1051 (isolation #32) » Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:43 pm

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I'l save you a job Dunn and say that, as has already been pointed out, Creature demonstrated elements of both his scum and Town meta's in this one
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Post Post #1204 (isolation #33) » Wed Nov 14, 2018 12:01 pm

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In post 1200, MariaR wrote:Wanna vote Alonzo but A50 Alonzo don't feel S/S
hmmm w/e
VOTE: Alonzo
How did it become a me vs A50 thing?
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Post Post #1209 (isolation #34) » Wed Nov 14, 2018 12:11 pm

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Unvote
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Post Post #1222 (isolation #35) » Wed Nov 14, 2018 12:34 pm

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Well if didn't looked like scum vs scum, and I'm town, you must be Ethan in this little ensemble.

You kinda railroaded me yesterday huh?

@A50
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Post Post #1238 (isolation #36) » Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:33 pm

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In post 1026, Almost50 wrote:@Alonzo: No offense, but I watched you come into a game I was NK'd in well determined to tunnel me to death. I watched you come into another game, and you really didn't do much better either. And now this tunnel on EJ. Mate, are you ever going to play for the Town? Because unless you're scum in this game you are playing for them for the 3rd game running.

Again; NO OFFENSE INTENDED. Just please try to change your scum hunting ways given your usual procedure doesn't net you any prizes at all.
In post 1235, Almost50 wrote:
In post 1222, Alonzo wrote:Well if didn't looked like scum vs scum, and I'm town, you must be Ethan in this little ensemble.

You kinda railroaded me yesterday huh?

@A50
Except it was Alonzo who was the corrupt cop, not Jake. :wink:
That has zero to do with your selfrighteous outburst in the game tho...
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Post Post #1248 (isolation #37) » Wed Nov 14, 2018 2:03 pm

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I question the intentions of that post certainly
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Post Post #1249 (isolation #38) » Wed Nov 14, 2018 2:04 pm

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Like why not mention anything in thread after the games but then suddenly preach now?
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Post Post #1252 (isolation #39) » Wed Nov 14, 2018 2:31 pm

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Sooo.. why not give better examples of whatever point you were trying to make?

I just ... I just don't get it.

What point where you trying to make about my alignment in this game? Town?
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Post Post #1255 (isolation #40) » Wed Nov 14, 2018 4:19 pm

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You have a pretty unique way of declaring your Townreads.
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Post Post #1256 (isolation #41) » Wed Nov 14, 2018 4:28 pm

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Vote: Performer
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Post Post #1257 (isolation #42) » Wed Nov 14, 2018 8:27 pm

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FOS koki
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Post Post #1259 (isolation #43) » Wed Nov 14, 2018 8:43 pm

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Im suspicious because of of your approach to todays Lynch, and on occasion you've covered for some of my more fringe scumleans.
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Post Post #1262 (isolation #44) » Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:08 pm

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Low tempo, some prod surfing...

Gonna list later. Gotta sleep RN work 2mo.
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Post Post #1280 (isolation #45) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:59 am

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Ya don't wait for a compelling case just obey....
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Post Post #1282 (isolation #46) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:13 am

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U wanna break up an L2 wagon with 24hours to go?
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Post Post #1286 (isolation #47) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:19 am

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In post 1283, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 1262, Alonzo wrote:Low tempo, some prod surfing...

Gonna list later. Gotta sleep RN work 2mo.
So basically half the games I've been in?
I'm aware of your meta, and can usually tell the difference or form a stronger read than here tho.

Feels like your happier to sit back and watch everyone else take heat.
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Post Post #1287 (isolation #48) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:21 am

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In post 1284, Snowman wrote:When I think Ruby doesnt have that high of a chance of flipping scum? Absolutely.
I semi agree, hence why I didn't vote there
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Post Post #1288 (isolation #49) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:22 am

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Of dunn/rr/performance its perf everytime...
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Post Post #1291 (isolation #50) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:55 am

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I certainly don't have strong tr's on either purr or koki
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Post Post #1301 (isolation #51) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:08 am

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(redacted)

@koki

IIRC we have crossed paths 3 times prior, and IIRC in the first two you were scum (?)

Which made reading you in g3 easier.

Here tho I got you as a null scum-- but most likely because its hard to follow your given reads based on your meta..
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Post Post #1303 (isolation #52) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:16 am

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Ruby I dont want to out you, but have I played with you before under another alias?
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Post Post #1305 (isolation #53) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:36 am

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I just Dived snowman to see if I could find any discrepancies in his progression onto me, but snowy has a pretty driven town! Iso.

I do intend to drink everytime he uses the words manatee and dude when casing me later however...
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Post Post #1306 (isolation #54) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:37 am

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@performer was manatee scum in 2030?
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Post Post #1323 (isolation #55) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 12:49 pm

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In post 1318, Ruby Red wrote:
In post 1315, Chara wrote:why'd you have to make ? it's pinging me.
i'll note that but still going to go with Purr's townread on you.
because i legit think that manatee scum meta is true (despite the irony)

although it does go against my personal policy of screaming death tunnelling one singular scum, so i guess i kinda betrayed my own principles, huh
read manatee in 2030 and then here back to back.

The smugness is gone and replaced with angst..

Unless he is so meta aware he can keep you all guessing everygame, but theres nothing in either Iso to suggest that.
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Post Post #1326 (isolation #56) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 12:52 pm

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We should get another 24 hours added once joeys replacement joins

@a50
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Post Post #1346 (isolation #57) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:10 pm

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548 is just dumb, but its exactly the same kinda shit you just said with reguards to my slot isn't it?
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Post Post #1354 (isolation #58) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:26 pm

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just kinda reads like two ill informed town trying to do the right thing for the wrong reasons...

that was my first impression picking the game up later.

I really feel like dunn believes his arguement , same as I feel it from you too
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Post Post #1355 (isolation #59) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:28 pm

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performer on the other hand...

Doing a terrible NM impersonation
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Post Post #1373 (isolation #60) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:43 pm

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why am i scummier than dunn??!!
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Post Post #1376 (isolation #61) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:49 pm

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why am I bottom of your list with with dunn and elsa?
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Post Post #1391 (isolation #62) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:00 pm

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Chara did I mention you're off my christmas card list?
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Post Post #1397 (isolation #63) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:11 pm

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RR why is performer town?
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Post Post #1400 (isolation #64) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:18 pm

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I see it.

You think scum!manatee was bussing his buddy then?
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Post Post #1402 (isolation #65) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:22 pm

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you probably just shoulda said 'null' or something =P (even then pretty dumb given what I'v posted here so far)
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Post Post #1405 (isolation #66) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:28 pm

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What did I miss in Kokis Iso that made him town?

You have made lots of hard calls in this one that I am struggling to make so far...
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Post Post #1427 (isolation #67) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:18 pm

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Revisit Alonzo
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Post Post #1484 (isolation #68) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 5:27 pm

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The Duck is Town.

Ma I'm getting good at this game....
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Post Post #1490 (isolation #69) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:06 pm

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Ok Purrc, TW runs shit here now

we just live here
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Post Post #1580 (isolation #70) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:20 pm

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Vote: Snowman


@KOki-- I didn't give a bullshit read on you, I said I didn't have a confident read on you...
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Post Post #1581 (isolation #71) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:21 pm

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@TW dunno if u caught up yet, but SM would turn up and vote me out of the blue for undisclosed reasons, encourage Perf to do the same then dissapear like a fart in the wind when I called him out on it
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Post Post #1582 (isolation #72) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:25 pm

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Re my wagon

No one has pulled up a series of post I have made this game and declared them the reason to vote me, mostly echo chamber reads about my preds meta...
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Post Post #1584 (isolation #73) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:37 pm

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I was a bit untrusting of Purr on my first read through.

They replied with some training day based banter then engaged me later re RR but I still dont know how to read them
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Post Post #1585 (isolation #74) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:29 pm

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Gamestate wise I think you will be the Town MVP TW its just a matter of keeping you alive =)


I think me and Koki can smooth things out.
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Post Post #1586 (isolation #75) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:51 pm

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Poe wise im in a similar position to RR except obv I can colour myself green.

I will try to show my workings out later so you can see how i got there, I also have a couple more in the need to sort pile lke chara/maria/purr for example.

But as long as the eye of sauron doesn't swing my way I'd agree to a lynch from that pile, with performer taking my place on the list. (performers being a little sausage in this one)

If Either Dunn and or RR votes my ass to secure themselves today the arsonist has my blessing to sort them with Fire, as If i wanted to screw them It would have been done by now. bottom line.
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Post Post #1619 (isolation #76) » Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:07 am

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Wow either you type really fucking fast, or you just copy pasted all that straight outta the scumchat...
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Post Post #1621 (isolation #77) » Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:13 am

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A50 said it better..
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Post Post #1626 (isolation #78) » Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:19 am

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I mean a lot of it factually correct, but as was explained, erratic play is my town meta...
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Post Post #1629 (isolation #79) » Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:26 am

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Your case on manatee sucks mind you...

You really think him dropping was AI?
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Post Post #1631 (isolation #80) » Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:31 am

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Did you compare this iso to his 2030 scum iso?
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Post Post #1633 (isolation #81) » Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:33 am

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In post 1627, Performer wrote:
In post 1626, Alonzo wrote:erratic play is my town meta
that and as scum, you avoid confrontations right ?
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{dunn, lady, elsa} ?
Yep, this too
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Post Post #1634 (isolation #82) » Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:35 am

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I mean, now you actually did case me I'm back to TRing you....

Just seemed a bit like this case was never coming when I voted
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Post Post #1638 (isolation #83) » Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:47 am

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Felt like you were lining up a hatchet job on me, and again that was made before you actually did as you said you would.

Still could be a hatchet job, manatee dude had zero votes when I joined so anyone SRing the slot wasn't pushing, and scum didn't consider the slot mislynch viable til I joined it would seem..
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Post Post #1642 (isolation #84) » Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:56 am

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I didn't realise the conviction of your scum read on manatee at the time, only delved you after you voted me
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Post Post #1643 (isolation #85) » Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:57 am

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Had I been more aware I would have certainly addressed it with you earlier
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Post Post #1646 (isolation #86) » Fri Nov 16, 2018 9:05 am

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Yeah I see that now..
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Post Post #1647 (isolation #87) » Fri Nov 16, 2018 9:06 am

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Let me finish cooking dinner and il revisit you calls on me and go through em
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Post Post #1651 (isolation #88) » Fri Nov 16, 2018 11:41 am

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In post 1615, Snowman wrote:
In post 1299, Performer wrote:
In post 55, Krazy wrote:He has replaced out of 2 games as scum and 0 games as town

As scum, he makes weird bullshit votes and then sits on them for weeks at a time

As town, he does weird reaction tests and then responds quickly to those reaction tests

Based on meta, Manatee is incredibly likely to flip scum. Honestly it's the strongest meta-based case in the entire game atm
manatee scum meta
Honestly this should be reason enough to lynch Manatee, especially since his play this day phase wasn't all that town motivated, but let's pretend this doesn't actually exist and shift through his ISO.

This is a terrible read, but my arguement is that I have zero replace ins to scum slots. As Manatee isn't here and I am, my meta will trump manatees for the remainder of the game.
With foundations this poor what can the rest of this arguement be based on??
In post 52, ManateeDude wrote:why would VT or Toxic Goo claim?
Pointless question, I've talked about this before.

How is being unsure of the motivations for claim in the early game a scumtell? not every payer has the same experience with complex setups. Noob questions are not scummy, I dont care how hard you twist it.
In post 110, ManateeDude wrote:
In post 108, Dunnstral wrote:^ Scummy
VOTE: Dunnstral
Naked vote, which is not bad in and of itself but I didn't like his positioning on the wagon either.

Again this is a very personal reason to you, what was his position out of interest? missionary?
In post 255, ManateeDude wrote:
In post 232, Snowman wrote:Mostly waiting for Manatee to pop back into the thread.
what
In post 304, ManateeDude wrote:Theres at least 1 wolf on my wagon, town takes more time to think through a post and the alignment which cannot be done with a what post.
Dumb reaction test. Town would be frustrated at his lack of activity just as much as scum would pretend to, and its mostly a deflection from posting actual content.

Quite Clearly manatee has a dim view of the gamestate at this point and is starting to tell in his confusion. I'm not aware of his wagon at this point, but its not unreasonable to believe scum could be pushing him.
In post 471, ManateeDude wrote:VOTE: Elsa Jay

1. people are voting her
2. the trying on a new lurker meta is just weird..
Plenty of players already said something along these lines about Elsa, so it isn't anything new. Also the second time he's jumped on the new and trendy wagon.

So jumping on new and trendy wagons is a bad thing? oh no
is point 2 talking about elsa or performer? both are wierd, so its a good observation.
In post 535, ManateeDude wrote:
In post 511, Dunnstral wrote:Hey, ManateeDudge/Almost50/Kokichi, why are Elsa Jay/Lady Angel better lynches than me from your perspective?
Elsa pings me when you bother me more I guess
In post 734, ManateeDude wrote:
In post 725, Ruby Red wrote:if dunnstral flips town then i'll be the fucking first one on performer's wagon (hell, even if dunn flips scum it's a possibility)

dunn should still go first
VOTE: dunnstral
Town
The transition between these two posts are awkward. He never does explain how Dunnstral went from simply "bothering him" to actually being scummy. At this point it's also clear he doesn't care about voting anything but the popular wagons, which is pretty safe play and perfect for someone hoping to coast by D1.
Similar to how you never explained the transition from manatee to me, but encouraged performer to sheep you anyway just because you had voted me and given intent to produce content?
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Post Post #1658 (isolation #89) » Fri Nov 16, 2018 11:54 am

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In post 1616, Snowman wrote:Now, onto Alonzo's ISO...
In post 968, Alonzo wrote:
VOTE: ELSA
In post 971, Alonzo wrote:How do you like my attempts to derail the current gamestate?
In post 979, Alonzo wrote:How do you like my vote on all that jelly but no toast?
He starts out by throwing out a vote literally just to derail the game-state. Being self-aware that what you're doing is bad doesn't makes it less bad. A pretty piss-poor reaction test that doesn't read like genuine game-solving.

How was voting Elsa bad? you talk like you are sure they are town.
In post 986, Alonzo wrote:
In post 985, Snowman wrote:Alonzo, is there any reasoning behind your Elsa vote beyond "derailing the gamestate"?
Given the hour of my arrival into the game, its part of a larger intel sweep..

Whats your read on Elsa?
In post 989, Alonzo wrote:Reckon you can help me sort Maria?
In post 994, Alonzo wrote:
In post 58, Snowman wrote:Merry Christmas!

VOTE: Carcalilly
Ok last one... wats your history like with Carca?
In post 1034, Alonzo wrote:I'l tell you why I started there after the game.

Sell me on Dunns if you can??
Lots of questions asking others to give their takes on things while also not giving many takes himself. There's hardly any follow-up either.

Most of his ISO is just fluff or him asking basic questions. He does give out a few reads once in a while, but he doesn't flesh them out too much either. There's certainly nothing I'd town-read him for in his ISO, and combined with Manatee's lack-luster ISO the slot looks pretty bad as a whole, but there's one thing in his ISO I really can't buy coming from town...
Now earlier you critisize my pred for having a weak view of the gamestate.

It should be apparent to you I have been in the thread only a few hours when I'm asking these questions it purely to get information, to get a foot in the door, to get a feel for the game, see whos talkative, who isn't whos volunteering info who isn't.

Im being very transparent about not being fully up to speed but you are actively saying there's scum motivation for it...
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Post Post #1660 (isolation #90) » Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:12 pm

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In post 1617, Snowman wrote:The things I've already pointed out about Alonzo's play are bad enough as it is, but what I really want to talk about is his progression from tr-ing to sr-ing me, because it's entirely disingenuous.

Oh fuck page three, now it really does look this was prepared over the course of the day..
In post 1305, Alonzo wrote:I just Dived snowman to see if I could find any discrepancies in his progression onto me, but snowy has a pretty driven town! Iso.
This was what Alonzo posted earlier last night before the worst replaced in. Take note that he apparently A)Dived through my ISO and B)Couldn't find any discrepancies in my progression on him (as implied by his concluding remark). Which makes no sense when considering what he posted after the worst's replace in:
In post 1581, Alonzo wrote:@TW dunno if u caught up yet, but SM would turn up and vote me out of the blue for undisclosed reasons
First of all, I literally wrote two paragraphs just before my vote summarizing what was scum-indicative from both Manatee's and Alonzo's play, so me voting him "out of the blue" for "undisclosed reasons" is already disingenuous, but it's impossible for him to miss the ten dozen times I pointed out scum-AI things from Manatee's play as well because he said he went for my ISO specifically looking for discrepancies on my progression and came to the conclusion I had a "driven town ISO", so that further invalidates this whole "voting him out of the blue" bullshit.
In post 1305, Alonzo wrote:encourage Perf to do the same
Again, never voted him for "undisclosed reasons" -- that's just a straight-up lie. And I asked Performer specifically to vote because he was already sr-ing Alonzo, or at the very least sr-ing some of the posts he made, so it would be reasonable to expect him to vote Alonzo with me.
In post 1305, Alonzo wrote: then dissapear like a fart in the wind when I called him out on it
Called me out on what? That I didn't flesh out a case THAT I LITERALLY SAID I WAS GOING TO FLESH OUT LATER? Like, I know I didn't get to it as soon as I said I would and I feel pretty bad about that, but for Alonzo to act like he caught onto something is just entirely bullshit.

Even if we assume that Alonzo was convinced enough by the worst's dive through like 1/6 of the game to do a complete 180 on me, which is already hard enough to believe as is, there is literally no way he could dive through my ISO and not find any discrepancies on my Manatee/Alonzo progression yet a few pages later claim that my vote came "completely out of the blue". He was clearly anticipating that the worst's case would be convincing to steer a lynch towards me and hopped on my wagon early, not caring at all that he'd have to spout complete bullshit to try to justify this sudden flip.
If you had voted and given Intent to case me and left it there, I likely dont vote you, but you attempt to move from hardpushing performer as scum to wanting to wagon me with him riding shotgun in a heartbeat.

Yet you just wrote an essay on how my pred sheeping is entirely scummy.

Which means you would be willing to turn around later and say perf moving his vote on me is scum indicative, but your emotive superlative laden metaphor twisting hyperbolic and egocentric push on me is way worse, designed to secure a bad push on some seriously thin wagonomics.
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Post Post #1796 (isolation #91) » Fri Nov 16, 2018 2:35 pm

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I ain't scummy yo
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Post Post #1806 (isolation #92) » Fri Nov 16, 2018 2:40 pm

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finally...

@dunn
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Post Post #1831 (isolation #93) » Fri Nov 16, 2018 3:00 pm

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Well its getting late. Busy day tomorrow so I guess I better lay a vote...
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Post Post #1835 (isolation #94) » Fri Nov 16, 2018 3:04 pm

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*sigh*


this is a toughie, im really indecisive

wheres my spirit duck?
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Post Post #1882 (isolation #95) » Fri Nov 16, 2018 3:33 pm

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VOTE: Dunn
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Post Post #1886 (isolation #96) » Fri Nov 16, 2018 3:37 pm

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In post 1885, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1882, Alonzo wrote:
VOTE: Dunn
Scummy
It wasn't me it was my data allowance..
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Post Post #1943 (isolation #97) » Sun Nov 18, 2018 4:46 pm

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In post 1932, MariaR wrote:
In post 1920, Chara wrote:VOTE: Maria
If you seriously think I am scum with how I did everything to avoid the dunn wagon I have nothing to tell you
In post 1934, MariaR wrote:VOTE: A50
This or alan
So you are a saint for staying off the dunn wagon, but the guy who joined and pointed out RR vs Dunns was likely TvT is prolly scum...
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Post Post #1950 (isolation #98) » Sun Nov 18, 2018 4:52 pm

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I'm talking about me!!

You voted me when I joined and said the current wagons felt Like TvT?

Why am I scum to you?
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Post Post #1952 (isolation #99) » Sun Nov 18, 2018 4:55 pm

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You want me to join A50?
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Post Post #1986 (isolation #100) » Sun Nov 18, 2018 5:54 pm

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Vote:Carca
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Post Post #1987 (isolation #101) » Sun Nov 18, 2018 5:55 pm

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L-1?
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Post Post #1995 (isolation #102) » Sun Nov 18, 2018 6:09 pm

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In post 1993, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 1986, Alonzo wrote:
Vote:Carca
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Post Post #2010 (isolation #103) » Sun Nov 18, 2018 6:55 pm

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Carca/Koki/Snowman
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Post Post #2020 (isolation #104) » Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:52 am

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Just to confirm not_performer, u think a50is fake claiming?
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Post Post #2033 (isolation #105) » Mon Nov 19, 2018 7:31 am

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In post 2030, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 2010, Alonzo wrote:Carca/Koki/Snowman
You still haven't explained your scumread on me
I was null reading you, then you began voting the shit outta me, hard to see that as town from my pov
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Post Post #2035 (isolation #106) » Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:48 am

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... Again belittle every other player in the game...
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Post Post #2037 (isolation #107) » Mon Nov 19, 2018 11:09 am

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In post 2023, Performer wrote:why are you still alive
when i attempted to mafia factional nk you last night
did I miss the sarcasm in this post or something??
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Post Post #2090 (isolation #108) » Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:20 am

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when are we lynching carca then?
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Post Post #2129 (isolation #109) » Tue Nov 20, 2018 4:47 pm

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il take it.
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Post Post #2232 (isolation #110) » Wed Nov 21, 2018 12:15 pm

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Why would scum NK scum?
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Post Post #2236 (isolation #111) » Wed Nov 21, 2018 12:50 pm

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Vote:Elsa


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Post Post #2267 (isolation #112) » Wed Nov 21, 2018 5:05 pm

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ouch!
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Post Post #2284 (isolation #113) » Thu Nov 22, 2018 11:30 am

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Vote: Performer
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Post Post #2298 (isolation #114) » Fri Nov 23, 2018 8:55 am

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I'm struggling to keep up with you here perf, wanna translate what all that was about with tw??
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Post Post #2301 (isolation #115) » Fri Nov 23, 2018 10:29 am

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Your Iso/Progression is all over the place in this one.

Your flitting in and out of character and tongue in cheek scum claims are ridiculous.

@Perf

You score zero Townpoints with me sir.
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Post Post #2405 (isolation #116) » Sun Nov 25, 2018 2:15 am

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Let's turbo snowman
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Post Post #2407 (isolation #117) » Sun Nov 25, 2018 5:55 am

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Case me
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Post Post #2408 (isolation #118) » Sun Nov 25, 2018 6:01 am

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Hi my name is koki/maria/elsa

I have played X games with alonzo

I think he is scum here because...
Which is in line with his scum/town meta as demonstrated by these examples..

There you go have a template
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Post Post #2425 (isolation #119) » Mon Nov 26, 2018 8:59 am

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Unvote
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Post Post #2434 (isolation #120) » Mon Nov 26, 2018 1:35 pm

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In post 2426, Almost50 wrote:
In post 2425, Alonzo wrote:
Unvote
Why? :shifty:
What would you be saying if I had just unvoted Snowman?

Do you think I should be on the Snowman wagon in the current climate?
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Post Post #2456 (isolation #121) » Tue Nov 27, 2018 8:26 am

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VOTE: Snowman
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Post Post #2460 (isolation #122) » Tue Nov 27, 2018 9:54 am

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In post 2459, the worst wrote:Ruby is like in the top 2% of town players on the site ez
Wheres Perc?
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Post Post #2487 (isolation #123) » Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:26 am

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Most list mods iv played with had terrible reads, so that goes someway to explaining Maria's voting pattern here...
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Post Post #2491 (isolation #124) » Wed Nov 28, 2018 6:16 am

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Snow's push on me was direct but incorrect. We can look at it as town making a mistaken push on town, or scum swinging for the low input slot.
At least they had a push tho... None of this naked vote followed by days of silence type push...
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Post Post #2504 (isolation #125) » Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:45 am

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If elsa rolls scum is a50 next?
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Post Post #2529 (isolation #126) » Wed Nov 28, 2018 11:20 am

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In post 2506, Almost50 wrote:
In post 2504, Alonzo wrote:If elsa rolls scum is a50 next?

No, but you probably are.

Ladies and gentlemen: The quoted post has been made by someone who isn't even voting Elsa, nor is he promoting for his lynch. This exactly what a scum partner says when they don't want to bus but fear the lynch may go through anyway, so they think "let me establish some faulty associations that may lead to a mislynch next".

Of course, if EJ flips green the above-mentioned logic is invalid, but I can now vote Alonzo over EJ to verify EJ's alignment.

In fact..

VOTE: Alonzo
A simple yes would have sufficed!
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Post Post #2531 (isolation #127) » Wed Nov 28, 2018 11:27 am

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In post 968, Alonzo wrote:
VOTE: ELSA
In post 971, Alonzo wrote:How do you like my attempts to derail the current gamestate?
In post 986, Alonzo wrote:
In post 985, Snowman wrote:Alonzo, is there any reasoning behind your Elsa vote beyond "derailing the gamestate"?
Given the hour of my arrival into the game, its part of a larger intel sweep..

Whats your read on Elsa?
In post 1029, Alonzo wrote:
In post 1026, Almost50 wrote:@Alonzo: No offense, but I watched you come into a game I was NK'd in well determined to tunnel me to death. I watched you come into another game, and you really didn't do much better either. And now this tunnel on EJ. Mate, are you ever going to play for the Town? Because unless you're scum in this game you are playing for them for the 3rd game running.

Again; NO OFFENSE INTENDED. Just please try to change your scum hunting ways given your usual procedure doesn't net you any prizes at all.
Did Town lose any of those games?
In post 1031, Alonzo wrote:Ah right, the one I subbed in and called the scumteam before getting NK'd..

That game was a stalled stalemate.. FFS.
In post 1032, Alonzo wrote:Sure I do get it wrong sometimes, but those are really bad examples of that....
In post 2236, Alonzo wrote:
Vote:Elsa


pew pew
In post 2504, Alonzo wrote:If elsa rolls scum is a50 next?
I really have no idea why A50 has changed his tune, my push on Elsa is the one consistent thing throughtout my ISO.
A50 shot me down early, and now intends to push me for a mislynch despite knowing I'm well within Town meta... Which is why I ask... If elsa flips red A50 next?
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Post Post #2533 (isolation #128) » Wed Nov 28, 2018 11:33 am

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Given the OTT reactions x2 now, I'm thinking either Elsa is the scum with the jucier role A50 wants to protect. Or scum A50 is just buddying Elsa.

Either way, I can skip the foreplay and jump straight to

VOTE:A50


And Emplore my Snowman posse to do the same
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Post Post #2548 (isolation #129) » Wed Nov 28, 2018 12:34 pm

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@Chara

Fittys gon' hang and you aint helpin him outta this...

pushing 250 posts.. what is his claim? VT?

He cant give you a straight answer cos its a crooked push...
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Post Post #2557 (isolation #130) » Wed Nov 28, 2018 4:41 pm

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Will keep that in mind
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Post Post #2559 (isolation #131) » Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:02 pm

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I want to believe ....
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Post Post #2567 (isolation #132) » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:19 am

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please do not affiliate with caught scum A50
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Post Post #2625 (isolation #133) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:55 am

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In post 2621, the worst wrote:Elsa is a wolf and/or wolfsiding and has claimed a wolf +ev role and I don't want that alive in LyLo

choo choo binches
I FUCKING hate it when your right.
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Post Post #2632 (isolation #134) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 12:44 pm

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In post 2631, Gamma Emerald wrote:A50 always does that.
Well then Lynch anyone you know forsure knew that but Didn't say as much...
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Post Post #2641 (isolation #135) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 1:34 pm

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In post 2633, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2632, Alonzo wrote:
In post 2631, Gamma Emerald wrote:A50 always does that.
Well then Lynch anyone you know forsure knew that but Didn't say as much...
And who would that be
I'd say you but I don't think you actually have any experience with that? What's your meta with A50?
One redacted, and one sub in where he was Nk'd before I had posted.
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Post Post #2642 (isolation #136) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 1:35 pm

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although there's rumour he uses alts... I dont know them
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Post Post #2644 (isolation #137) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 1:39 pm

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Dont think so
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Post Post #2645 (isolation #138) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 1:40 pm

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who members Tatsuyas open House?
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Post Post #2652 (isolation #139) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 3:36 pm

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was that the question or the answer?
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Post Post #2687 (isolation #140) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:23 am

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Why is Koki town?
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Post Post #2688 (isolation #141) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:25 am

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VOTE: Performer
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Post Post #2691 (isolation #142) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:30 pm

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which post did you case me in again, remind me, I cant find it....
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Post Post #2693 (isolation #143) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:07 pm

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cool story
What's changed?
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Post Post #2695 (isolation #144) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:37 am

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how was my meta read on you a fake?
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Post Post #2698 (isolation #145) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:22 pm

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In post 1295, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 1286, Alonzo wrote:
In post 1283, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 1262, Alonzo wrote:Low tempo, some prod surfing...

Gonna list later. Gotta sleep RN work 2mo.
So basically half the games I've been in?
I'm aware of your meta, and can usually tell the difference or form a stronger read than here tho.

Feels like your happier to sit back and watch everyone else take heat.
Really? Post links of you being able to tell the difference
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Post Post #2699 (isolation #146) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:23 pm

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I'v never townread you where it was innapropriate IIRC
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Post Post #2702 (isolation #147) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:55 pm

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What is this?
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Post Post #2717 (isolation #148) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 5:22 am

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In post 2699, Alonzo wrote:I'v never townread you where it was innapropriate IIRC
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Post Post #2734 (isolation #149) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 1:18 pm

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unvote
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Post Post #2735 (isolation #150) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 1:18 pm

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VOTE: Maria
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Post Post #2737 (isolation #151) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 1:37 pm

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I bet you've written a fuckton in scumchat....
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Post Post #2739 (isolation #152) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:11 pm

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and you
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Post Post #2741 (isolation #153) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:16 pm

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How do you know I SR performer?
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Post Post #2743 (isolation #154) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:23 pm

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I voted him because he left me out here to deal with you two on me lonesome
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Post Post #2744 (isolation #155) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:29 pm

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Did he do the same to you

@Purrcocet?
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Post Post #2747 (isolation #156) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:11 pm

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In post 2301, Alonzo wrote:Your Iso/Progression is all over the place in this one.

Your flitting in and out of character and tongue in cheek scum claims are ridiculous.

@Perf

You score zero Townpoints with me sir.
In post 2302, Performer wrote:
In post 2301, Alonzo wrote:Your Iso/Progression is all over the place in this one.

Your flitting in and out of character and tongue in cheek scum claims are ridiculous.

@Perf

You score zero Townpoints with me sir.
Alonzo, it's joking and sarcasm. Also, see below :
In post 802, Performer wrote:I want to have more fun with not playing so traditional and "robotic" as someone called me before.

And Alonzo my friend, is it a crime to have fun and finally develop my meta in the 3 years that I've been with FM??

Also, I had 2 games with tw . We've seen each other's town and scum games already. My read developed on tw in this game. The good thing about you confronting me about me confusing you, is that it makes me continue townreading you since that's a town tell for you. Otherwise I'd pocket you or kill you instead of tw tonight (sadly, he lived through the blast lol). You & tw saw my scum game before and read my scum pt too - you know I'm precise and I don't make ridiculous mistakes like letting you or tw or a50 live. Letting people like those live, is absolutely outrageous no matter what play I'm using.
Who says I SR you??
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Post Post #2753 (isolation #157) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:27 pm

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Why don't you Townread quackman?
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Post Post #2761 (isolation #158) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:45 pm

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XDXD

Gammas back!
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Post Post #2762 (isolation #159) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:52 pm

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In post 2752, Performer wrote:or persi are scum here.
Based on meta or something that happened here?
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Post Post #2771 (isolation #160) » Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:18 am

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In post 2766, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2761, Alonzo wrote:XDXD

Gammas back!
Missed this
Where was I that makes me back now?
I was pretty null on your alignment till that post is all
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Post Post #2773 (isolation #161) » Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:26 am

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The TLDR is that purc wants me but so does Maria, so we may have to lynch one of them to prevent a cat fight breaking out
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Post Post #2780 (isolation #162) » Fri Dec 07, 2018 5:27 pm

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VOTE: The Worst
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Post Post #2781 (isolation #163) » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:36 am

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More pressure plz or it won't quack
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Post Post #2795 (isolation #164) » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:50 pm

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In post 2786, MariaR wrote:Hopefully soon
I retract all scumreads on Maria, all this LAMIST posting she keeps doing is starting to hurt now...
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Post Post #2807 (isolation #165) » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:29 pm

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VOTE: Koki
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Post Post #2809 (isolation #166) » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:32 pm

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lylo?? I wasn't aware, but I'm leaving it out there
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Post Post #2812 (isolation #167) » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:34 pm

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zzzzzz
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Post Post #2813 (isolation #168) » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:36 pm

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how did you benefit town before Lylo Koki?
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Post Post #2814 (isolation #169) » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:40 pm

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when I get round to re reading D1 I will find your partner too
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Post Post #2824 (isolation #170) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:35 am

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Anyone wants to do TW today over Koki just LMK
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Post Post #2825 (isolation #171) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:37 am

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Btw Koki scum forgot to turbo you.... Ooops
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Post Post #2827 (isolation #172) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:59 am

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Your calibration still off?
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Post Post #2832 (isolation #173) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:29 am

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In post 2408, Alonzo wrote:Hi my name is koki/maria/elsa

I have played X games with alonzo

I think he is scum here because...
Which is in line with his scum/town meta as demonstrated by these examples..

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Post Post #2833 (isolation #174) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:19 am

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In post 2821, Persivul wrote:Who thinks Alonzo is scum? Who thinks he's town?
I know the answer so I wont do a spoiler, but you should be a lil suspicious as to why I was voting carca earlier in the game eh?
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Post Post #2844 (isolation #175) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:17 pm

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thats game then...
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Post Post #2845 (isolation #176) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:19 pm

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I was the last scum
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Post Post #2878 (isolation #177) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:41 am

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Well played scummers.

Anyone wanna elaborate on their Alonzo scum reads? Anyone at all?
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Post Post #2891 (isolation #178) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:05 am

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Knowing what I know now, I woulda definately voted TW over Koki ;)
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Post Post #2896 (isolation #179) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:08 am

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