Limbo l Victory!

[Almost50]

What's a bit of a letdown from that, is that a50 chose carca of all people. If he chose someone who wasn't v/la the whole time into Monday, then that would've been more effective of a reaction test gambit.

No it wouldn't. And plus, nobody else claimed VT, and I dunno who might be a VT/Goon to try and push them like that. Like I could've gone for X, and X would have claimed they are an unidentified PR and that would be it.

Carca was the PERFECT target courtesy of her VT claim AND her VLA status. That is what provided me enough time to keep that play alive.

[Almost50]

In case persi is somehow scum here, which is unlikely but I like to cover my bases.

@A50 what's persi's town and scum meta like?

It's been a while, but id he replaced into a scum slot there's a good chance he will replace out.

[Almost50]

His 2325 (top of this page) gives me strong town vibes from him though. It's funny how you can SR a slot with one player and as soon as their replacement comes in they force you to flip your read on the slot.

[Almost50]

I don't think I've seen Almost50 fake claim as town before.

Oh my! That's a hilarious quote for a sig.

Pick ANY two random games from my wiki (my alignment for each is shown in the table on the wiki) and see for yourself. Me not faking a claim as Town is so rare that I in fact would be SR'd if I didn't.

[Almost50]

Like, why do you think I get NK's so often on N1 as a claimed VT? Because SCUM DO NOT BELIEVE ME ANYMORE. "He claimed VT, and he's a compulsive liar as Town, so he must be a TPR".

[Almost50]

also willing to lynch Lady today too

Talk is cheap. Prove it.

[Almost50]

@A50 you really thought you could get away against the likes of us, with a member of the NRG?

I admit, it was a good try though.

I already did. The minute you guys chose to believe such a shitty claim I considered it a successful gambit. I got what I wanted out of it, and that's all that matters.

So, Mr. NRG member: Do you think it's NORMAL for someone to die of targeted by a non-killing action from scum? Like. is it in the book of NRG that a Mafia Roleblocker kills a Town Tracker while anothe mafia member is shooting another Townie?

[Almost50]

why are we not lynching Jay again?

Because .. let's face it .. he is even more cute than you!

[Almost50]

He has me scum on 2 associations that I'm not sure how exist, because I've barely talked to you or Lady Angel this game.

Say again?

Purr is actually a stronger Sr for me than Carca is. I can't quite explain it, but if you try to see it my way and assume (hypothetically from your PoV) that LA is scum, then try to reread the whole D2 action I think you'll see Purr as a SR and

independently

than either of LA/Carca

[Almost50]

I really wish that Lynch All Liars hadn't gone out of fashion. I like A50, but I think his fakeclaim shenanigans do more harm than good.

Would it feel better if I said I misunderstood my role?

In fact, let me try this: I confused my games.

[Almost50]

Try to prove me a liar on that last one.

[Almost50]

Spoiler: @Chara:

Performer: I am especially grateful for the time Carca flaking provided me to keep that gambit alive. It wasn't expected, but it worked for the best.

I am still puzzled by the TR you have on LA tbh. Just bc she decided to vote someone you SR doesn't mean she's town nor that your SR on EJ is correct.

I am analyzing LA's play via her claim and claimed action, and you quoted the post where I summed it all up. Is short, nothing adds up on what she said. Not her confusion about what her role is, and certainly not the reasoning for picking her night target.

If she though she was a Watcher, the last person she'd want to WATCH is the claimed VT. Period. Nobody was ever going to shoot Carca on N1, N2 or even N3. Literally ANY other slot would have been a better target for the Watcher.

Now add she said Carca was a "claimed PR" and you know it's a scum slot fumbling for what to say.

LA's "emotional speech" about her sucking and deserving to be lynched doesn't score points on my register AT ALL. In fact, I don't get affected by AtE much. It's a ploy to win everybody's compassion. Nothing more and nothing less.

Now, the next suspect would still be Percy, but it's both conditional and circumstantial. For Carca (Percy) to be Scum; LA has to be. If LA was Town then I have no case on Carca. My thought process is "why would Scum!LA go out of her way to defend Town!Carca", and this is where the circumstantial part comes in: Scum may indeed have a Vanilla Cop, and since they already know who Scum are it is identical to a Town Neapolitan. If they checked Carca last night they don't want to push her today as she is no threat to them (LA even gets to pocket Carca with that defense), AND they already know her role. They'd want to push someone else in hopes for a TPR claim/reveal.

Purr is actually a stronger Sr for me than Carca is. I can't quite explain it, but if you try to see it my way and assume (hypothetically from your PoV) that LA is scum, then try to reread the whole D2 action I think you'll see Purr as a SR and independently than either of LA/Carca

I'm not exactly clearing tw, but I have nothing damning against him. He's just not in the mood, and he's sick so I'll give him some slack.

So. let me go back to LA: She's SCUM. And Purr is SCUM. I dunno who their third might be yet, but give me time and I'll probably figure it out. Right now I already have 2 lynch targets in my pool, and I can only vote one of them today even, so let me worry about the third Scum when I've confirmed at least one of these two.

[Almost50]

Hmm.. ok.. you guys can wagon me and I'll just ignore you and leave the game. In fact everyone should do just that. It's an excellent strategy on MS.

[Almost50]

Unvote

Why?

[Almost50]

Umm. what are you responding to?? I was asking Alonzo why he unvoted the person he called for a flash wagon on!

[Almost50]

Oh.. Right. AP moment for me.

[Almost50]

Unvote

Why?

What would you be saying if I had just unvoted Snowman?

Do you think I should be on the Snowman wagon in the current climate?

You're the one who said to flash wagon his slot, so yes.. I very much expected you vote to be on him regardless of the replacement. The new player can then show you/us why they should not be the leading wagon when they do arrive.

[Almost50]

also why am I not townreading A50 at all and where is Chara

Cuz you're sick.

[Almost50]

@Chara: There's this bit in my PM that is composed of 8 words "YAAMOTSC"

[Almost50]

Amd just so nobody thinks I'm using any encryption.. it stands for "You Are A Member Of The Serenity Crew".

[Almost50]

Cuz someone is probably faking Doctor when they are a Hider??

[Almost50]

I'm not lynching an active slot just to achieve a lynch. We often lynch in hopes to flip scum, and if not then to gain additional info. We may get 2 flips through modkills already, so I say we lynch LA anyway and we probably will get the Snowman flip as a bonus too. I don't see why we should be lynching someone else today.

[Almost50]

My point is we are likely to have 2 flips already. Why make them 3? If 2 of them are scum I'd be all in with that. But what if all were Town? there's a reason why we can only lynch one slot per day, you know.

[Almost50]

Also, something I noticed all over MS.. as soon as the mod reserves a post for a VC someone comes in to place a vote right after that.

I understand people waiting for a VC so as not to hammer inadvertently, but why they vote right after a VC that isn't there yet is beyond me.

[Almost50]

If elsa rolls scum is a50 next?

No, but you probably are.

Ladies and gentlemen: The quoted post has been made by someone who isn't even voting Elsa, nor is he promoting for his lynch. This exactly what a scum partner says when they don't want to bus but fear the lynch may go through anyway, so they think "let me establish some faulty associations that may lead to a mislynch next".

Of course, if EJ flips green the above-mentioned logic is invalid, but I can now vote Alonzo over EJ to verify EJ's alignment.

In fact..

VOTE: Alonzo

[Almost50]

@Persy:

[Almost50]

No one mentioned 2 modkills before either. I'm oushing for the no lynch

because

of the possibility of 2 modkills. We are currently 9 v 3, and with a mislynch and 2 midkills we jump directly to 6 v 3, i.e. MYLO. I'd rather be in a 7 v 3 as the worst case scenario.

[Almost50]

*pushing

[Almost50]

I never have because I never thought of it, but now that you mention it, there's gonna be some annoyed mods.

D:

turn that frown upside down anonyghost
>:3

[Almost50]

I'm not saying you should. I'm saying DO NOT LYNCH. You insist on getting a lynch so I'm offering an alternative. I do NOT want to lynch for fear there may be modkills, and the indication is .. "I can't talk about it".

[Almost50]

what does Alonzo flipping green tell you about Elsa? your logic for Alonzo scum relies on Elsa scum, not the other way around.

If Alonzo flips Scum then EJ might be. If Alonzo flips Town EJ is Town. I don't see Alonzo's post coming from a Town perspective.

[Almost50]

I still do NOT SR EJ anyway.

[Almost50]

No one mentioned 2 modkills before either. I'm oushing for the no lynch

because

of the possibility of 2 modkills. We are currently 9 v 3, and with a mislynch and 2 midkills we jump directly to 6 v 3, i.e. MYLO. I'd rather be in a 7 v 3

as the worst case scenario

.

Uh, how do you know that both of the modkills would be town?

Posturing much?

I swear Percy (Carca) is scum in this game.

[Almost50]

Yeah, right. Maybe I'm the one selectively reading.

[Almost50]

Anyway, the

mechanically correct

move is to NO LYNCH, but if you feel bad about that then the next best thing is to lynch from LA/Snowman. This limits the damage in case the lynchee is Town and the other slot is too. In other words it guarantees we have a 7 v 3 as

the worst case scenario

meaning we still have one more mislynch in hand.

Anything else is stupid as it relies heavily on lynching

correct

. Like, sure.. if you are +90% sure X is flipping scum then do it. If not, then there is a chance you are leading us straight to MyLo in one go.

Now, let's go back to each individual slot of you... ask yourself these questions:
1- Are you sure LA is >SCUM<? (Obviously none of you is, but answer it to yourself anyway)
2- Are you sure Snowman is Scum?
3- Are you positive EJ is Scum?

If you answer YES to #3 then go ahead and lynch EJ. If your answer is Yes to any of #1/#2 then you should lynch that slot.
If you answer NO to all 3 questions then you acknowledge we indeed could lose 3 Town slots in one go, which is ridiculous.

[Almost50]

or we could use three mislynches at once! isn't it basically the same thing? :>

No its NOT. You're skipping a NIGHT.. a night with NIGHT ACTION = RESULTS

[Almost50]

so... why the Alonzo vote, then?

Because I don't trust his linear play in MyLo/LyLo, so if we're going to get there anyway I'd rather not have him around.

[Almost50]

I'm only the 2nd vote on Alonzo, and I don't see his wagon taking off anytime today. Elsa's wagon did take off and it could go through. THAT is the difference.

My stance is CLEAR: I won't LYNCH anyone outside of the two slots that are already in danger of getting flipped anyway, and I'd really rather lynch LA over Snowman. Period.

[Almost50]

I'd rather not waste my time and energy on explaining how I think, and especially so to my hydra partner, the one person I would assume knows something about how my brain works anyway. If YOU don't get it, I suspect this is a worm can I'd rather not open in this game.

[Almost50]

I am looking forward already to that game where we are playing together as a hydra once more. I'd bet real money right now that we're going to fight in the hydra PT more than we post in the main thread.

[Almost50]

@Chara

Fittys gon' hang and you aint helpin him outta this...

pushing 250 posts.. what is his claim? VT?

He cant give you a straight answer cos its a crooked push...

Hey.. you wanna go to jail or you wanna go home?

[Almost50]

I feel like we are going nowhere. anyone else getting that feeling

I am. People are being too proud to change their reads even when the truth is out there for them to see.

[Almost50]

1 day. Choose someone to lunch. You need to compromise

I will compromise on LA

[Almost50]

@Hardships - Permission to release the kraken (Hardship PT), captains?

No!

[Almost50]

VOTE: A50

This reds

No, It WHITE!

I really want to see this 1v1 go down

VOTE: Carca

*Sigh* If only people listened to the little white monkey

P.S. Please.. PRETTY PLEASE..

DO NOT ISO ME

in this game.
You can have your own 1v1 rather than cheering from the sidelines.

Remedy the situation and actually vote Carca with me then. Defuse the bomb before it explodes in your face.

VOTE: Performer

L-something. Just check on the VC at the top of this page when Anon finally gets to it

Look at Carcalilly's vote onme too - like look at their iso and try to figure out why they are voting me

I tried to push Carca earlier. Nobody seemed interested. If you want to save your head try to get a good case for OTHERS to follow. I don't need to be convinced to lynch Carca. I just need an existing wagon there.

[Almost50]

Oh, and CARCA WAS BLOODY SCUM. My reasoning may have been flawed, but my read was spot on. Thank you EJ & Chara for your support.

[Almost50]

Like, I bloody faked a guilty on her, and you guys argued against it. (I don't care about the others. They were either Scum or didn't know me that bloody well.)

[Almost50]

Carca was town

No she wasn't. Mod made a mistake and won't admit it. Carca was 100% Scum.

P.S. You're banned from my future games for opposing me. When I said not to ISO me it also implied not saying anything about my reads. Duh!

[Almost50]

In fact

VOTE: Purrcocet

This is SCUM!

[Almost50]

That's what you get for all the monkey business you did in this game

[Almost50]

Knowing what I know now, I woulda definately voted TW over Koki

I totally expect you to do it too.