Starcraft Mafia -- Game Over!

[Nauci]

VOTE: Kokichi

Let's lynch this.

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VOTE: Kokichi

VOTE: Kokichi
Also still fine with this.

I'm not moving because St the moment I have a surprisingly high confidence in scum reading nm

[Irrelephant11]

@mitillos Shoshin not answering me about your slot is par for the course when it comes to town!her
She ignores questions all the time for a variety of reasons. It’s occasionally frustrating but not a reason to re-evaluate my townread of her

Do we believe the Kokichi claim

[AlmostNancy]

Koki & Perf are viable counterwagons to Not_Mafia. Creature & the worst aren't.

Agree. I will fight any Creature wagon.

[Nauci]

I know no one is listening to me but I think both Kokichi and NM could be town here.

I know you've defended kokichi but remind me of your town case on NM?

[AlmostNancy]

Gamma is scum, mark my words, write it in stone

... gamma isn't in this game

???

[Irrelephant11]

I'm a day 2 IC. lynch xtomn

This is probable but not especially believable
The question I guess is whether he’s d2 IC or a strong scum pr

@Kokichi NM was at l-1 with 24 hours, normally a time to claim.
At the same time I was writing the post I had the thought that you were acting way too confident about NM, so I shared that thought too
The fact you claimed without being asked kind of nullifies your “asking for claims is bad” issue with me imo

[Performer]

Creature isn’t scum here, at worst neutral 3P maybe but never scum.

I don't like his trajectory from "nm is scum, nm is not," later adds nm to his scum pool, unvotes himself, calls mitil scum without explanation , still has me in scum pool.

@irrel I dont believe that d2 IC claim. What in the SC universe, is the equivalent of that? What's your flavor, koki?
Why do you ask us if we believe it?
Do YOU believe it?...

[Kokichi Oma]

rofl. N_M is town.

[Irrelephant11]

*provable

[Kokichi Oma]

The question I guess is whether he’s d2 IC or a strong scum pr

nice shade. you're scum lmfao

[Kokichi Oma]

If I was vig I'd be shooting Irre tonight.

[Kokichi Oma]

just throwing that out there

[Nauci]

The fact you claimed

Oh

I took it as an emphasis-by-way-of-sarcasm joke claim

[Irrelephant11]

Idk if I believe it, I’m terrible at setup spec always
I’m outsourcing the decision because I get suckered by every late-day claim, fake or not

[AlmostNancy]

I'm happy with a Not_Mafia lynch, because contentless lurkers who don't explain their reads are anti-town by definition.

VOTE: Not_Mafia
That's L-1.

@Keyser: I've been called controlled and measured (even robotic) before. People were reacting to my posting style. Please, consider the possibility that you are doing the same.

I'm back and working on remaining ISOs/reads now.

One lesson I learned from hydraing with RC, is that town often mistakes obvious mislynchbait for scum - especially very early game.

Lovebird from DnD, anyone?

[Irrelephant11]

If I was vig I'd be shooting Irre tonight.

You’d die, that would be stupid

[Performer]

If I was vig I'd be shooting Irre tonight.

just throwing that out there

I dont think anyone will be visiting a claimed PGO

if a vig does do that, then if his claim is true, we lose 2 tprs...

[AlmostNancy]

Lynch the worst and then Vidal Sassoon

You mean Varsoon?



Sorry Varsoon but that was actually funny.

[Irrelephant11]

The question I guess is whether he’s d2 IC or a strong scum pr

nice shade. you're scum lmfao

I mean multiple players with extensive shared meta w/ me disagree
I haven’t believed any of Kokichi’s reads, I don’t think

Re-Nauci’s post is your d2 IC claim real?

[AlmostNancy]

VOTE: Creature

But why?

Bad creature vote imo.

Bad creature vote imo.

?

Hes never this active as scum

Agreed. We’re definitely not lynching Creature.

I 1000% disagree with BOTH Nancy & Kokichi

Why is Creature scum?

[AlmostNancy]

Here he is making reads, asking questions and engaging - 3 things he really didn’t do in YGM.

I see the same things that are being done in his YGM and this game .

Elaborate.

When does scum!Kokichi hardtown read his counterwagon - irrespective of NM’s alignment?

I also see no world where Kokichi and NM are ever w/w, so they are not linked.

[Kokichi Oma]

The question I guess is whether he’s d2 IC or a strong scum pr

nice shade. you're scum lmfao

I mean multiple players with extensive shared meta w/ me disagree
I haven’t believed any of Kokichi’s reads, I don’t think

Re-Nauci’s post is your d2 IC claim real?

yes i am a day 2 ic.

[AlmostNancy]

More reads:

Creature

: Makes 28 posts before he gives anything resembling a read with a reason. Then another dozen or so, before giving another couple of reasons for his reads. After that, he becomes more engaged in the game. Eventually he slumps back to not giving reasons, and even votes himself. He is a bit all over the place, and my prediction came true. I have trouble reading him, because he just won't respond to questions a lot of the time. (I'm still waiting for explanations for his scumreads.)

Read: Null, leaning scum, because of the on-and-off coasting.

Varsoon

: I mentioned before that some of his behaviour here reminds me of a previous scumgame of his. There was a very distinctive defensiveness and paranoia about people grouping up against him, which I had seen in his scum game but not his town game. His thing about Shoshin took entirely too long and was very annoying to watch. However, then came an interesting twist. He said he was just going to sheep Shoshin, but at some point (I make it around post 750 or so), he starts engaging the game, giving reads and opinions, and being generally solid. Before this point, I would read Varsoon's posts and shake my head. Afterwards, I'd be nodding, instead (or at the very least understanding his points, even if I disagree with him).

Read: Leaning town after a crescendo.

Irrelephant

: For this one, I'm just going to give the things that give me pause. Consider everything I don't mention to be perfectly fine. 1) His claim is kinda meh for me. If he really is a PGO, he should have kept quiet about it and try to attract a nightkill. If he isn't, he shouldn't lie about it. Both of these are under the assumption that he is town. 2) He asked Shoshin 2-3 times why she is townreading me, and even though she never responded (this will come up again when I do my Shoshin read) he didn't do anything about it (as far as I can see). In other words, he seems unwilling to reevaluate his townblock.

Read: Town but with flecks of paranoia.

AlmostNancy and Shoshin will take quite a bit of time to sort through, so they will have to wait. I'm still leaning town on them, so it's not like the reads on them are urgent. I'm also still townreading skitter, Nauci, and the worst.

My preferred lynches remain as they were in post 2049. To reiterate: Perf > N_M ~ Kokichi > Xtoxm > Creature.
I am willing to get on a wagon on any of these five.

Why should Irrelephant11 have kept quiet about being PGO? He could attract an NK but possibly also a town PR?

[Irrelephant11]

Can you point to anything from NM specifically that makes him town? @kokichi

@Nancy why doesn’t Kokichi saying “neither of us are scum” read w/w..?

[Kokichi Oma]

Can you point to anything from NM specifically that makes him town? @kokichi

ive seen him as scum on another site, he did not act like this.