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VOTE: Robert2424

Because you should have been born in 2011

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No wait you should have JOINED in 2011 wow I'm retarded

i'd ask that you don't use that word in the future

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A new challenger approaches: Trivium trips into the fight!

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Sorry mod, will make note. Whoaa lapsa's in this game?
VOTE: TheGoldenParadox

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I also give you permission to scrub it right out of my post if you don't like that word schadd

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VOTE: trivium

This also gets a FoS.

So do you

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Pretty sure I played with lapsa like a few years ago, and I play so few games it's cool to see the same people again.

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Oh yes, scummiest person so far gets my vote

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Because lol why not?

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It's just a thing people are doing to get talking to happen.

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I'm not voting lapsa until I see a more drawn out pattern of scum behavior. He doesn't talk enough for me to get a strong enough read on him.

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Golden is super scum right now, robert's my #2 prime suspect.

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Golden's posts very self focused, noncommittal, wanting to direct votes in a subtle way, and feels like he's trying to ride the xwing

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The same xwing I was originally voting for to make sure they couldn't skate by on votes without reasons?

Don’t play this game with me, it doesn’t end well for those who try.

Explain to me why you think people on the X wagon are more scummy than the people on the GP wagon.

The supposition being that I am defending x, right? Then why would I target him to vote when there were 2 other naked voters early.

I've laid out my reasons for each vote individually. I cannot provide reason to a fantasy you've crafted.

Explain to me why one person saying you are in a scummier group got you so flustered you rushed to double post with incorrect information.

The same xwing I was originally voting for to make sure they couldn't skate by on votes without reasons?

You seem very defensive, friend. It interests me.

You're question has a simple answer. I don't. I wanted to see how you would react. I now have my answer.

As I said early, Paradox feels like a

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Sorry about that, had a

super

busy day yesterday. Those posts from nikk I quoted (189 and 194) made me feel like he was going for this annoying kind of "You're frustrated so I'm obviously right" posturing, shot him up my scumreads. 187 feels artificial and too quick to me, like he was waiting to say he was voting for xwing.

Golden is still up there in my scumreads. Especially because of that neutral read thing he said way back where apparently I'm neutral and genuine for voting him. Makes me feel I'm probably right.

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hmmm i like to like you profii, but maybe i cant give you a town read just yet..but def not on my scumdar..
im gonna take a backseat for now and let the others come in and comment..

@mod: i'm going to be V/LA on the weekends UTC+12, it's Friday lunch time now my time..

xwing's post 91 looks super scummy, wanting to take a backseat and all, and the weirdness about profli who I gut scumread this game. Other than that though there are questions asked with followup and I like the suspicion of golden so I'm not going to vote xwing unless I see more scummy behavior. Same with lapsa.

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Robert you seem to be pointing fingers at literally everyone who posts: can you please condense your reads a bit into a list?

Oh this is getting spicy

Any comments? I see a lot of your posts but have a lot of trouble understanding what your reads are.

Sure, I think you two (Ie you and Robert) are scum together and this a transparently contrived attempt to distance.

Doughboy and Trivium are probably town.

I don’t like the way Profii has been rotating around your wagon but I’m sure he feels the same way about me on the x wagon, so I’m giving him the BOTD even if you’re mafia. Plus he’s been insightful and is playing his careful, Socratic game he did when we were town last game.

Sash I have leaning town.

I have a tilting scum read on Lapsa but with the way his counterwagon formed I don’t think he’s scum if you flip scum.

A scum flip from you would make me feel mixed about Nikk because of one of your all’s early interactions but a town flip from you would make him town to me. Even if you flip scum there I think he would be leaning town.

X I have leaning town because of the way they came out swinging against their wagon, but that was way back in early game. Just the people on the wagon on X make me feel like X is town. So if most of my reads are correct, this one is too.

The wagonomics account is a tossup. I think they said my value decreased but it stayed the same, and they haven’t been super active. I think it’ll take a day or two to solve the slot.

Egix is a tough read for me but my gut says town.

I’m on mobile and missing somebody so hold on and let me see who it is

I agree with literally everything in this post.

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Except for proffi/sash townleans

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I appreciate the attempt though. I like to see scum fight back.

THis is pinging me HARD.

Can you elaborate? I feel doughboy is town, and at least at one point you did too

I do believe doughboy is a townlean, but less so because of that post - it seems fake.

This post seems faker, look at doughboy's meta and tell me if you feel the same way golden

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I don't feel as comfortable with Nikk on golden but whatever, we'll see what happens

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Trivium agreeing with basically everything I say is giving me flashbacks to our last game where at the end he said he agreed with me and buddied with me as scum but I’m also having a really hard time believing he would be that blatant about it after literally telling me he did it like a week ago. I still think he’s town but I had to note it just in case I’m not around on day 3 or 4 and y’all are looking back on this.

To be fair in your shoes in that last game I would have been on the same page. Seriously considering that hydra offer.

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The best kind of scum is shameless lol. Actually I think I've got a pretty firm grasp on xwing as a player now, pretty sure he's town but not quite sure how to put that into words. Based on robert's reaction to things I'm feeling comfortable with my vote on golden, and if golden flips scum robert would be the next likely candidate.

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Are you normally this aggressive when scum?

Is TGP your top scum read again? I'd like you on my wagon...

While it feels good to be wanted I respectfully decline.

It's a tie for me, but this active recruiting of people onto lapsa or away from TGP will tell alot if TGP flips scum

I... agree :/ and I don't want to because I still scumread you but I do.

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I think for xwing it's the question asking. He seems kind of newish in some ways, like he's still getting the hang of mafia, no offense to xwing. I feel like the type of person he is would just be more inclined to ask lots of questions and try to generate conversation as town, he seems to have latched onto that idea and rolled with it. It's that or he's newscum who thinks he can coast by convincing everyone he's town with his questions, but I'm just feeling the former and any further analysis of that just feels like wifom. The VLA is NAI and I'm suspicious of players who tried to say that's AI.

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@trivium I find you underwhelming

@trivium I find you underwhelming

Something we agree on.

Aw that's... that hurts.

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Are you normally this aggressive when scum?

don't really remember when was the last time I rolled scum. would argue that's NAI regardless

Ehhh I don't like the way lapsa tries to indirectly towntell here, feels too intentional

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Lapsa's very hard for me to read, I can't say much there unless I see something big.

When gp flips red profli and egix are my next targets. I think scum may have accepted a gp lynch now and are playing accordingly, so usual tells and information are going to stop working correctly.

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Idk you think it’s a double bus? We’ve had a fair amount of trouble getting this wagon up and there’s a fairly robust counterwagon. If GP is scum I say 1 bus max on the wagon.

Might be, might not be. I have no way to tell, all I'm saying is I don't think votes on gp's wagon should clear people after he flips red, which by the way I'm positive on

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I'm going to read through the last 20 pages and make a chart of interactions

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doing this because there's too many people in this game I don't have reads on

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Yeah... no. Why would fingers be pointed if profii ISN'T on a town wagon? You're screwing up your logic because you're scum, and profii is probably scum with you, or you're trying to counterwagon onto a town to redirect. We'll have more information tomorrow, right now I want someone to hammer because this is conf scum.

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Wagonomics, I feel like you might be fishing for for something to hit other than golden, and it's time to actually commit to something or you're going to look really bad tomorrow when golden flips scum. Hammer now, sell high before you start losing your investment.

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put your money where your mouth is

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I don't like that lol's talking about why they might be left alive tonight already, but whatever

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I will hammer in ~3 hours unless someone has a compelling reason not to, so TGP can compose his final reads/thoughts/etc.

If anyone has some final big thing to say now's the time

that's not very economical of you

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It doesn't, but alrighty

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I don't like that lol's talking about why they might be left alive tonight already, but whatever

i can get why you find this icky, but at this point just put it under "noted" section..lolwagon's too far from the global scummy list..

that said, tgp claim makes me think he might actually really be town..my next scum would be profii too anyway though so should still be fine, i guess..

i was initially skeptical with trivium's intent to hammer, but upon ISO, found him consistent in reading tgp as scummy..so my fears subsided a bit..

i still think db is town, his play is quite similar to when i've played with him..but hope he picks up his activity, he's pretty good at scum hunting (when he doesnt let his emotions get the better of him)..

@lol, interesting take on sasha, can you expand a bit more? still think he's town at this point..

Pretty towny post here, not gonna lie. Golden flips scum and you're pretty town to me. That said, everyone's on the global scum list, and nobody gets a free pass. Intent to hammer? I'm already voting golden.

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half right with leopard.

Lynx?

Snow Leopard.

I'm going to have to reread here, some peoples reasoning confuses me. Like for an example, laspa unvote, Wagonomics putting me so low while 3 people were voting for me.

to me, Golden could flip either way, though I would prefer laspa. Wagonomics seems willing to hammer golden.

Everyone seems in favor of a lynch, except Lapsa. so unless somebody jumps on Lapsa still, witch I don't think is very likely, Golden seems to be the person for today.

So the question is would I want to hammer Golden myself. I put in an earlier post somebody to try to convince me to vote for him, but nobody seemed to notice or care. So I have to wonder, who would people want to have hammer him?

I don't care who hammers, it doesn't clear anyone

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@X
#374 is fairly blatantly driving a counterwagon
#376 felt a bit like fishing for my opinion on the TGP wagon without actually being upfront and asking
#445 felt a bit like low-key shade. And although I’ve pushed for the GP wagon since early, I’ve engaged with most of the other players. Tunneling is a stretch.

#446 is really weird because he didn’t really read TGP as scum (at least not as much as Lapsa) and yet he still picked up the distancing thing before anyone really said it. I just find it odd if his focus wasn’t on TGP and noticed it, and if he picked up on it like that and acknowledged it as fake distancing why not realize maybe the TGP lynch is better? Feels like TMI.

These are all great points, I need to read into sasha a little more

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That first paragraph in #150 literally reminds of the scene from The Office where Carrells character is talking to I think his boss and he just keeps saying random tangentially related stuff to procrastinate

lmao that's some imagery

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VOTE: TGP



Done

Night

Gonna cop Robert

Oh my god

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VOTE: Egix

Let's pretend deadline is in 2 hours. Would anyone be interested in a CFD here?

Oh my GOD

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A Chinese Fire Drill. That's where lots of people change wagons very suddenly to reach a compromise when the clock is about to run out.

Like, Golden fosing me there and his claim made me think his town equity has increased a little bit. I'm not really interested in investing in ProfiiCoin right now, my investment in Lapsa didn't make me feel confident there, so wondering if people are interested in EgixCoin for today. If TGP is both town and his reads are not bad then I think this is a stock worth looking into.

BOYS WE'VE GOT A SCUM TEAM DAY 1 LES GOOO

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I would bet both my arms that profli/golden/wagonomics are all scum together.

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Could be that, could be you. Hammer, bro.

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Is that hammer? I was lyncher, TGP was my target. I win right?

It was not. I am an Informed Economist, and GoldCoin actually has the Loved Modifier, so that was only L-1.

What in hell's doorbells is going on here

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Is that hammer? I was lyncher, TGP was my target. I win right?

A lyncher? I certainally hope a role isn't in this game....

Lies. Lies everywhere. I don't know what's going on, I can't see anything, I am so confused. I hope both of you are lying because oh my goddddd

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Is that hammer? I was lyncher, TGP was my target. I win right?

It was not. I am an Informed Economist, and GoldCoin actually has the Loved Modifier, so that was only L-1.

What in hell's doorbells is going on here

Idk he must have misread his role PM I’m TGP’s neighbor and he’s actually a six-shot vengeful Townie. We figured this would be the best way to scumhunt, just get him lynched and he shoots our six scum reads

Oohhh lmaooooo

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I damn near had a stroke

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Trivium might be town.

You think?

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You know

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No. No, no no! VOTE: Wagonomics

I already have the scum team here, that's why lolwagons is dead. Wagonomic's blatant attempt not to vote their scumbuddy near the end of yesterday sealed the deal. Look through day 1 with that lense. I mean actually read it all the way through. Profli/wagonomics/golden or my arms

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Every time you do a shit gambit profii you cost town the game

When are you going to get that wifoming your way to day 3 doesnt do any fucking good if you can't read people in lylo

Mastina/robert/sasha can have 2/3. Sasha being busy does not make him town here. I thought rob was town but if he stole my hammer just to speedlynch me today he is either shit town or scum and either way can eat a rope

Profii should just be vigged so he doesnt throw another lylo

Don't worry, profli's getting lynched tomorrow and you're losing.

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Somebody better take this scum out of the game now while profii is still bussing, doesn't make any sense for profii to vote wagonomics now otherwise by the way given their play yesterday. Why'd you have to kill lol?

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UNVOTE:

lapsa I stayed strong for you, get in here with me.

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VOTE: Wagonomics

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Lol guys that's not a hammer pay attention. I just had a long day and I want more scum dead. Lapsa better intent before I wake up or I'm going to have a stroke

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I still have this strange feeling wagonomics is scum and is just fucking around

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I got neighborized last night right before flubbernugget died, so I'm staring at an empty thread. I'm alright with killing profii or robert today; prefer robert though.

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VOTE: Robert

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I got neighborized last night right before flubbernugget died, so I'm staring at an empty thread. I'm alright with killing profii or robert today; prefer robert though.

Does that not mean Flubber failed on n1... so let’s see if Flubber did an180 on anyone or was very firm on anyone on day 2?

Mastina.

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Mastina being town seems likely to me role-wise.

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No, I mean he probably tried to neighborize the ascetic

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Yeap I'm pretty confident with lynching robert today. I don't have any more arms to bet though

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I'm trying to think of a reason you shouldn't believe me xwing, I really am, and I can't find any. Unless there's a mafia roleblocker who blocked flubber's neighborizing *and* maf killed flub the same night while somehow knowing flubber was both neighborizer and was going to neighborize me tonight... I mean, I'm town.

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feet wagered

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btw, if you haven't guessed by now I'm a Voyeur. Nobody visited Lapsa last night either.

No you're not you're scum

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No, I'm town trivium. You're scum robert

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He's claiming because he's worried he's going to get lynched. He's right.

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Also I'm eating a bullet tonight

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Anyone else have something to say about this? Let's give this a day and hammer robert into the ground

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*you're

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Because lapsa enjoys playing with my emotions

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Xwing, this would be okay except I'm dead tomorrow, so I would kindly ask you to lynch scum before you don't have somebody reminding you that you do, in fact, have to lynch scum to win.

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So to further balance the game Lol was NOT loyal meaning one could argue the inno child status

lolwagons was loyal as well..

You're being duped

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stop questioning my innocence xwing, I'm town as town can be. If I were scum even I wouldn't claim what I did, that would be stupid.

We lynch robert today, if he's town we lynch profii. At *least* one of those is scum guaranteed.

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Bleh robert is obv scum and the fact that this isn't happening right now only confirms my suspicions, hell profii could be scum with him how about that line of thought

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So ignore post 809 we lynch robert today then town or scum we lynch profii

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Hell at this point I'm even thinking about voting lapsa

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If you're town your wincon is voting robert right now.

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If you're town your wincon is voting robert right now.

i dont get the hostility--i only questioned you being town once? and conceded you're likely town?
and my wincon is lynching scum, which i think is more profii, less robert..
why is robert more scum than profii?
also, the other guys are not here yet, what's the rush? sasha, egix, nikk, from the top of my head..

Oh I didn't mean any hostility! I just think it would be easier for you to view this game through the lens that I'm town, you gotta take whatever solid ground you can get.

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lets just avoid the question...lol.

Trivium is getting upset over nothing. Some people on this site with big ego's it seems.

Xwing is the one taking a logical approach to this. @Xwing, from his post he seems undecided with me.

The fact they were both loyal I have to agree, somebody being ascetic ties into balancing them out. It was probally supposed to be unlikely to lose both of them.

@nikk, calling out no modifiers or roles dosen't mean it eliminates a role. As for Ninja, its ussally a mafia modifier, to buff the mafia with the idea of many of the Follow, watch, track, voyer role.

Ouch I better get some rest and a shower then. Ouchh

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Hey wait a second you're scum. Stop trying to shade my character, there's better ways to play scum.

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And stop trying to buddy xwing

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lets just avoid the question...lol.

Trivium is getting upset over nothing. Some people on this site with big ego's it seems.

Xwing is the one taking a logical approach to this. @Xwing, from his post he seems undecided with me.

The fact they were both loyal I have to agree, somebody being ascetic ties into balancing them out. It was probally supposed to be unlikely to lose both of them.

@nikk, calling out no modifiers or roles dosen't mean it eliminates a role. As for Ninja, its ussally a mafia modifier, to buff the mafia with the idea of many of the Follow, watch, track, voyer role.

This is just a dirty post all around, nothing personal but I hope you get lynched for it.

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I will try to watch my ego though

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A thought...

Do we possibly think TGP voted profli in the now infamous scumslip to attempt to distance them two? With profli's weird Day 2 'accidental' hammer rush (Accidental Hammer Rush is also the name of my metal band) it makes me feel like profli is the clear way to go here.

My kingdom for a vote count.

Yes, and I'd be alright with voting profii or robert today, I think they might both be scum.

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You could survive on that very argument, but that's all gut wifom stuff.

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I'm considering lapsa a lot less right now.

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I'd like to just hit both of them, can we agree on that? Robert first please.

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Nah, as I said I'm fine with either and you make a good case there, especially because I forgot about the previous votecounts somehow VOTE: profii

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I've been voting profii for a while now, pretty sure profii got hammered by some previous post.

Mod did votecount wrong

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Vote profii

L-1

He refuses to claim, probably cause he doesn't have a fake claim to supply. The only person not voting now is sash. So its up to him to make the right decision and lynch the desprete scum.

This was a hammer.

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oh my bad you're on robert in the vc.

well I was a VT - make sure you get Robert tomorrow.

Will do

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If I live

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What why am I not dead?

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lmaooo VOTE: Robert

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I claimed neighborized. There was no counterclaim. I cannot be scum without some serious shenanigans that I hoped we had already established were neigh impossible especially given this setup. At this point anyone who even acts suspicious of me I consider scummy, because I am a functional IC unless someone can give me a single reason why I'm not. Today is the day we get robert out of the way. There was scum in profii/robert. Profii was town. Robert is that scum.

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I Visited Lapsa again. Nobody visited him.

pretty sure you did

failing to understand why though

And we have our second scum.

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I will only compromise for lapsa

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Turbo robert he's trying to rolefish

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Nikk just vote him this is some of the most obvious scum you're going to get without an innocent child cop telling you so