BooneyToonz Extravaganza: LAST NIGHT TOMORROW

[Nero Cain]

^
lies

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Am I the only one that hasn't read the mechanics yet?

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reading is for wimps anyways.

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ok yeah, dayvig:RCE

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dude, rude. (and actually kinda scummy)

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*prays for bullets*

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Day Rep votes are public and should be made in this thread.

We vote on who the next 4 reps are or is that just saying that the 4 days reps vote to end day ITT?

I skimmed and nothing seemed real important, was there?

I also hop knight eviscerates RCE with his saber.

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If there's not a good reason to scumread me then I'm town.

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Traditionally multiball refers to two mafia teams. You could argue that a SK is its own faction (and it is!) and myself (and I think alot of others) use the term interchangeably. Also, SKs use knives in flavor (traditionally) So this game being advertised as not multiball means there's one mafia team and any other scum would be 3p.

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If there's not a good reason to scumread me then I'm town.

I feel like thats not how that works. Scum would be sure to avoid looking like scum at this point and would be acting as stereotypically town as possible. If there isn't a reason to scum read you it just means you are null and have yet to do anything real.

I'm being slightly facetious here though very rarely is there a halfway decent case on me when I'm town.

dude, rude. (and actually kinda scummy)

Yeah Imma lynch you in private. Maybe.

how is that scummy at all?

AC and Nero should be more in tune with what’s going on here than everyone else.

Ok GE, humor me...why nero?....

~ P

???

I haven’t seen town!Nero yet in this game.

I'll be conftown when we flip RCE.

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Thanos was great but the movie was clunky. I'm also agreeing with him about BEF so they're prob the same alignment as me. We are a much better town block than the other one.

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So ok, I fake daykilled him b/c I was annoyed at him and Else trolling and bloating this thread. That alone is antitown/scummy but then I felt like RCE's threat/promise to ignore me was scummy. Like I can't go into details b/c both our games are ongoing but I have an excellent track record of reading him and I could see scum RCE intentionally not wanting to be in an argument with me.

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BTW Nacy, why were u town reading RCE?

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Cheeky is ignoring my question like she normally does as scum. This game is EZ mode.

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Why was it scummy, or are you just attaching the word scummy to everything I say and hope that it sticks?

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Because RCE had literally done nothing scummy.

Why do I have to think the same things as you?

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Let's tango Nero. Tell me your read on RCE.

I mean, I just explained it. If you are going to try to argue with me at least come from a place of knowledge.

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Nice strawman.

So not a strawman. You are basically saying that I can't find RCE scummy b/c you didn't. Your use of buzzwords might impress new players and fool them into thinking you are town and/or know what you are talking about but I and everyone else knows this is hollow AF.

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I'm asking fir a live interaction.

What's the point? My answers not going to change. You're basically asking me to do busy work or quote my post.

You're not gonna in a battle of words and wits.

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like all this was unneeded, all you have to do is reply to my explanation from earlier. Pro-tip but it makes you look like a fool when you are yelling and screaming for me to re-type or quote something in my very short ISO.

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ok, feel free to vanity vote me while I'm busy leading us to victory.

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point
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your head

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What would I have to be salty about?

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he doesn’t bother like getting quite as irate when he is town

I argue all the time as town.

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I don't expect you to ever town read me.

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I don't really remember that b/c I was scum that replaced out b/c I didn't want to listen to the RC/only the lies argue the whole game.

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Jokes are antitown -Nero 2018

are you saying he's wrong?

I mean they can be. Like jokes/fluff in lieu of content shouldn't ever come from town. I say shouldn't bc it is a thing that bad town do that scum mimic. Also, bloating a thread with spam and the unfunny jokes you bad trolls make just makes the game harder to read for those with less time. Scums main objective is to not get lynched, being friendly and fluffy makes ppl likable and those that are likable are less likely to get wagoned and lynched.

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I am so cold.

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I thought he was genuinely attempting to sort us with the whole role PM thing but I’m not familiar with his scum meta, so I suppose it could still possibly be scum being LAMIST

Did he vote you for this?

But Nero, why is RCE scum?

So ok, I fake daykilled him b/c I was annoyed at him and Else trolling and bloating this thread. That alone is antitown/scummy but then I felt like RCE's threat/promise to ignore me was scummy. Like I can't go into details b/c both our games are ongoing but I have an excellent track record of reading him and I could see scum RCE intentionally not wanting to be in an argument with me.

Nev might be town, still not sure about Max

I laughed.

Interesting. You townread Nero and you’re partner is calling him, “lockscum”?

back in the days hydra dis was considered a scum tell. I miss the old days.

Nero is probably town, he annoys me way too much in every game I'm in with him to let that make him a scumread.

hey, fuck you.

Why would having all the scum hard claim day 1 be an issue exactly?

this feels pretty misreppy.

Lets get this game going and lynch a fool before Christmas, K?

y so eager for a lynch?

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What 5 man mafia thing?

I feel like I've missed some posts in this game.

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Nice strawman.

So not a strawman. You are basically saying that I can't find RCE scummy b/c you didn't. Your use of buzzwords might impress new players and fool them into thinking you are town and/or know what you are talking about but I and everyone else knows this is hollow AF.

I do find his interaction with you hollow, but from my experience, he's still town. Scum wouldn't put themselves out there like that on Day 1

is this saying that you find Cheeky town? I mean yeah, scum Cheeky just general avoids me as to not make a scene but whats to say that she hasn't decided to change? We can call it null at best I think.

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Hey Nancy, I have a question for you. In that game where you were scum (heros right) Did you initiate the townblock or did someone else started the town block?

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Emperor flippyNips
Alonzo
Mcqueen
Xtoxm
If there is a bullet point,
that means they have voted
to end day.

Can we all lynch Thanos for bringing math into mafia?

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close enough for governments work

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lol

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I had wanted to talk about something that I felt was semi-important but I forgot earlier so here we go.

I don't think Alonzo is necessarily scummy for wanting to end the day @ p30. Like, he seems genuine that he's just behind but the stopping the thread a little prematurely is nearsighted.

I think artificially extending the day beyond useful discussion is p anti-town but as long as it's fruitful it's not much of a big deal. I think the strength of this mechanic is that we can vote the scum without them knowing we are voting them...unless we say so. The only minor drawback is we can't really coordinate a lynch. I could do unofficial vote counts if we wanted to do them or we could just vote whomever in our threads and just see how that works.

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The correct question was "RCE, why do you think you'll get scum read.?" Yours was silly Cheeky

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Nero and RCE are either of you TRing Ramcius?

~ C

no, he's done shit all. Maybe I'll have something later to read him on.

he asks how it's scummy then calls RCE scummy later

no, I didn't. I called his reaction to my fake dayvig kinda scummy and then Drew asked why and then I explained why I felt the way I did.

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Of course we have our own opinions, that's what the point of communicating is - to figure out what another is thinking and why - instead he turns it into a "I don't have to think the same as you" argument which is completely besides the point.

but I had already explained it and you even just reiterated that you saw "no scumminess". How is this NOT a "we don't think the same things."?

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I didn't notice either a question from Nero or an answer. Whatever it was must have been of dubious importance.

???

You know I was thinking of doing that

Were you also thinking about talking about this game?

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Elsa, remind us why you think BEF is scum.

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Who do you scum read then?

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Gamma, Elsa, Drewva, Max n Ned and Ultimate Lurkers are fine Lynches for today.

Change my mind.

no. ok. no. no. ok

hey prof, who you pushing when I green? Also, you wanna talk about the other 21 slots?

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Emperor flippyNips
• Alonzo
Mcqueen
Xtoxm
If there is a bullet point,
that means they have voted
to end day.

at least I see it this time.

[Nero Cain]

Ultimate Liars should be more readable shortly.

I honestly don't feel like either head is that readable, at least for me.

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Add Nero and Elsa to my townlist.

I'm getting placated aren't I?

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I just find the people that piled onto your read of me are scummie

use names.

I feel like hebichan is one of the few people in this game that I actually can read.

teach me

In order to teach the ways of Forum Mafia to Mister Boon's friend, clearly the best course of action is to lynch him day 1 as a lesson in what NOT to do here.

ewww. He has the same chance to be sent a scum pm as any of us. I don't like you saying that we shouldn't lynch him just b/c he's new and Boons friend. That said I don't find him scummy anyways.

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Chara is null A50 is town...I think.

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Daily reminder that since sparring with me Cheeky's hydra has been a lurk sack.

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lets lynch in

2. Ultimate Liars (Kokichi /Hebichan)
8. Cheeky Dancer (CheekyTeeky/Performer)
9. Theta Alpine
10. Elsa Jay
17. Ramcius
19. Emperor flippyNips
21. Emperors New Groove
22. RCEnigma

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I'd be remiss to mention that Nev and Max seem to be posting less too. Though I liked their early posting but still

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have any of those slots done anything?

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Daily reminder that MU is trash

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yeah, I apparently really misread that one but why is he scummy anyways?

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stuff here or

Spoiler:

other stuff here

Also hit preview so you can use buttons if not wanting to type tags

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much OMGUS

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What am I discrediting?

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One of Nero’s lurker slots?

Cheeky is p solid but I guess that also applies as a lurker slot.

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My vote is currently sitting on RCE but I'd be ok with any of the slots I listed earlier. Of those Ram is the only one with a wagon on him.

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already changed my vote dear. No point in vanity voting RCE and I guess Ram's scumflip makes RCE a green pm.

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And what my townflip gives you?

That I and others are wrong, at best. Your posting seems hollow and I don't remember any scumhunting from you. Of course, I'll ISO to confirm but I'm ok with putting my vote on you for now.

much OMGUS

Afraid of getting hip fired again?

Does anyone want to get hipshot? I'm just pointing out that I don't think she ever scum read me until I called her scum/would be ok with her lynch.

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Someone is going to have to explain the Drewva and TLK hate. I asked Elsa earlier but they ignored me.

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oh! now I have a good idea for a mafia role

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I don't think you are hated, I just like Dave and Ram scum reading you and I guess Alonzo?

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Is Elsa the he here b/c Nancy is a girl, guy.

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Alonzo isn't town, but there's no reason to scumread him either

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As long as we are both ok with each other dying, performer.

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The only reason to really end the day is if things have stagnated and it kinda seems like it has.

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Wolf? I thought there was no 3P

werewolf is a variant of mafia and offsites have hijacked our lingo.

When I say Emperor Flippynips you say...

Who?

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VOTE: end the day

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let's not get off target and lynch Ram. Or Cheeky.

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or UL or one of the two empororers.

TL:DR

there's a ton of slots I'd flip before Drew and Thanos

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like

VOTE: end the day

was just a troll vote b/c you know, I don't have any powers.

but we are at 64 pages now I don't really feel like we are getting any new info. Like if we want to wait on stragglers to chime in fine but I just think this thread will get bloated unless everyone really actives STFU.

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he wants flippy nips replaced, I thin.

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Are you that afraid of me?

I lynch who I think is scum.

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Are you that afraid of me?

I lynch who I think is scum.

You're trying to lynch lurkers, so I don't believe you

you aren't a lurker bro. There's also like a ton of scum motivation in being a lurker and lurker scum is actually a pretty common thing so...

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viewtopic.php?f=3&t=77055

Wheme and Ari and Titus were lurker scum

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=77824

cheeky was lurker scum

All the games I've played with scum Creature he was lurker scum. That was like 3 or 4 games.

Like sure, ineffective lazy/busy town do lurk but lurk scum is a thing and you seem to be arguing that we should consider flipping inactive slots b/c "OMG they could be town." Which of your buddies are lurking?

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shouldn't

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I don;t even know who you are scum reading, Ram. Besides me, obviously.

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both town and scum lurk bro. I'm not disagreeing with you that town don't not lurk. I just find your whole "don't lynch in the lurkers b/c there could be town!" to be extremely farsighted.

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you are? News to me.

I feel like you are just trying to say things to make me look scummy and hope they stick.

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You want me lynched, yet you do nothing to get people on my wagon

lets lynch in

2. Ultimate Liars (Kokichi /Hebichan)
8. Cheeky Dancer (CheekyTeeky/Performer)
9. Theta Alpine
10. Elsa Jay
17. Ramcius
19. Emperor flippyNips
21. Emperors New Groove
22. RCEnigma

ok with any of the slots I listed earlier. Of those Ram is the only one with a wagon on him.

already changed my vote dear.

let's not get off target and lynch Ram

There's not really anything I can do besides advocate your lynch and call you scum. If I was a daycop I'd have targeted you a long time ok.

And i'm not interested in your lynch, but if vig takes you out, i'd be grateful

this comes from town never.

Also why Emperors and UL? SS, Dave and Theta have similar amount of posts

I mentioned Theta a few pages ago and just b/c I didn't remention her doesn't mean anything has changed. When you scum hunt (which you aren't doing btw) you have to make judgment calls based on content and/or meta. I just remember nodding along with SS and Dave isn't an easy read for me. I don't even know if I've played with scum him before but he just always seems so low impact and lurky. His dead null.

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beetle juice is delicious

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Is Ram "scumreading" anyone that's not scumreading him?

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Why don’t you find TLK scummy?

it was just gut but after I finish catching up I can ISO him and throw down some posts.

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I think Alonzo was saying that Cheeky was going to hammer @ L-1. IDK

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both town and scum lurk bro. I'm not disagreeing with you that town don't not lurk. I just find your whole "don't lynch in the lurkers b/c there could be town!" to be extremely farsighted.

Explain what farsighted means?

When you are farsighted it means you can't see objects close up. I'm saying that if Ram is town his "don'y lynch in the lurkers!" is bad play but he's scum so the chance that there's a lurker or 2 on his team is a strong possibility.

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I'm not even voting a lurker, I'm voting YOU.

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I'm just saying that I AM town reading (or null reading) most active/semi-active players so unless I'm terribly wrong POE + scum motivation points to there being scum in the lurkers.

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yeah but I'm not supporting the lynch of a null read over someone that I think is scummier/has a higher chance of flipping scum.

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Lurker = null without content and associations
semi-active null = null with no content (so bunch of useless posts) and have associations

Which players are semi-active nulls that have associates and which ones are null without any?

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Only scum do that to not leave a trail early on (referring to the killing part)

I disagree. Like there's no wrong or right way to play vig. If you want to shoot at all your scum reads then ok, if you want to policy vig lurkers than ok.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=77055

the whole scum team was practically lurking in this game.

Supposedly I was supposed to send in flavor but I sent in a role that was lurker vig b/c I wanted to you know, shoot the lurkers b/c I know scum LOVE to lurk. So I don't think that shooting lurkers is necessarily scummy. In fact, I think its actually supper towny and it's just that SKs will shoot lurkers to use a vig claim.

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I did miss that but it wasn't my point.

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I did read and I didn’t see it.

He's saying that he wants to have most of his scum reads vigged. He's not really explaining why they should be vigged over lynched but "I want them vigged" is his explanation.

What are you saying about him with it, that he’s too focused on future problems than current ones?

I'm saying that he's not worrying about something that's staring him in the face.

I'm voting Ram. Sheep me tonight for a scum lynch.

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but I don't think you ever said that. Why didn't you just say that when Gamma asked you?

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but I don't think you ever said that. Why didn't you just say that when Gamma asked you?

I literally said that, when you asked last time. I said you're 4th on my scum list and I want lynch in other 3 first, I'm calling Gamma/TLK/DrewVa scumteam for a week already, I'm questioning them about their TR on each other for a while now, getting nothing. I really need one of them to flip, so i know, if I'm on right path or not. You are just a side project, so if you get vigged, less hassle for me in future dealing with you (I might get lucky and eat bullet before that too)

oh no, I've committed the unforgivable sin of not remembering something on the internet.

Lurker = null without content and associations
semi-active null = null with no content (so bunch of useless posts) and have associations

so why first one is better than second?

If can't think answer, sign for "Vig Nero" petition

Why not lynch Nero lol

If you actually read thread, you'd know answer, Nero asked that at least twice

I did read and I didn’t see it.

I mean you could have just explained it to Gamma but I guess since you're scum there's no need to be helpful.

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I'm old and its the holidays.

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TBF, scum not voting someone that thinks they are scum is a thing. He could just be scumreading you or he could just, ya know, be scum.

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My job isn't to convince you that you're scum but to convince others to vote you.

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At first, I was like an SS claim makes no sense in this setup (and thus was a gambit) but then I remembered that Boon said there's be timestamps and that being how hammer is decided makes some sense to me. If we really wanted to use him as a double lynch we can have like the people we want dead to vote TLK and everyone else unvote as so not to prevent a TLK lynch.

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Who would you want on the TLK wagon?

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Does that ruin the point of keeping votes hidden since it will be manipulated day 1?

y do you care if the hidden votes are not hidden?

like if we are lynching TLK then we just say X, Y, Z votes him and if they aren't we lynch there.

Also, remember that the wagon will be public in the end.

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and Cheeky and UL

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Why do we want to lynch vig Nero?

Elsa was just but hurt that I called her scum b4 she claimed vig.

but what, other than meta, makes them towny.

What makes me scummy?

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I agree with this. Your infatuation with lynching lurkers on day 1 is slightly bothersome.

I've yet to even vote for a lurker. (all my votes have been on RCE, Cheeky or Ram. Currently, I'm not voting anyone b/c I thought we were going to do the plan were we use TLK as a double lynch.) I'm just mature enough of a player to know that lurking is a good place for scum to hide out and of our lurkers, several of their scumgames/meta involve being a lurksack. Lurkers suck and I don't like them. Why do I have to scum read active players?

I think Ram is just scum trying t make me look bad by claiming that I'm exclusively hunting lurkers. I also think that his "don't lynch in the lurkers!" means he has a buddy or two there.

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I mean, TLK is offering himself up as a lynch so that kinda makes me believe his claim is real. Like I guess you could argue that its reverse psychology and he's betting that if he offers himself up then ppl won't want to lynch him.

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players lurking b/c lazy/busy is a thing and I know that which is why I've yet to vote a lurker. But I also know that scum love to lurk and I'm conscientiously aware of that.

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viewtopic.php?f=3&t=76181

this game? I barely remember anything about it. Who was the scum that was lurking?

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I highly doubt I was lurking and if I was why do you even think I'm scum this game then?

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At first, I was like an SS claim makes no sense in this setup (and thus was a gambit) but then I remembered that Boon said there's be timestamps and that being how hammer is decided makes some sense to me. If we really wanted to use him as a double lynch we can have like the people we want dead to vote TLK and everyone else unvote as so not to prevent a TLK lynch.

I mean, with just a smidge over a day we prob can't coordinate something like this.

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I'll vote any of Cheeky, Ram, flippy or UL. Those are my preferred lynches since I doubt we are getting a TLK lynch.

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@Alzo
@Drew
@TLK
@Elsa
@Nev and Max
@Gamma
@Xtoxm
@a50

Who are your votes on?

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That said I still have no idea who I DO want to lynch.

in 87 pages?

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like, when you self voted earlier and then you were all like "I don't know who to vote yet!" I was like "oh that feels genuine" but @ 87 pages its starting to sound fake.

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87 pages in two weeks. I can't process that much that quickly.

large games tend to get large post counts, did you not think this would happen?

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b/c we get rid of two sketchy slots. I mean, not that I find TLK scummy but there are/were a large # of ppl scumreading him and his role can get rid of another. If I were an SS I'd be more than happy suiciding on someone I scumread and that's what he wants to do so...

Though I kinda don't see us being able to really coordinate this rn.

I'm not seeing the big fuss over ENG. I mean yeah, lurking and being useless are both heads scum game so it's certainly possible but your reaon for scum reading him isn't exactly correct. He's not really tunneling me, He questioned my town read and then when he was challenged he called me townish. So its more of a hedge than a tunnel...not that that makes him that much better. I think if you are deadset on deposing an emperor then EFN is maybe slightly scummier.

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Seems pretty weird of u to ask such a question tbh

I think it's a fair theoretical question to ask in a game where you and Ram think I shouldn't be suspicious of lurkers. TBF though, it was mostly rhetorical.

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Also, 4 hours to vote Ram.

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b/c I'm pushing my scumread. I'm pretty sure that's my job as town. I just think his "don't lurker hunt!" is scummy. I think his whole thing about not enjoying this game and all that jazz is ATe. His scumreads are 3 people that scumread him and the claimed SS-wich is prob town. I mean, yuck.

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ate is appeal to emotion.

I've already said at least thrice that having TLK suicide today makes plenty of sense. I'm not voting him though. lol

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you keep ignoring the fact that I haven't even voted a lurker. And there's a healthy wagon on a lurker that might be scum anyways.

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mcqueen is not voting Elsa, he's voting a lurker (after fussing at me for lurker hunting.)

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another easy non-commital push.

lol no, just, no

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not really, I just don't feel like engaging with scum.

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Emperor flippyNips
• Alonzo
• Mcqueen
Xtoxm
If there is a bullet point,
that means they have voted
to end day.

not really, I just don't feel like engaging with scum.

Oh, when I started asking hard question, you backing out?

obviously.

I mean, your accusation that you and Cheeky have both been "shallow non-commital" pushes isn't anything approaching the truth and a guy whose sole "scum reads" are the people that suspect him and a prob town SS claim really doesn't have a leg to stand on.

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I think most people are scumreading us for activity and my attempt to push nero early on.

I'm just going to quote this since I'm too lazy to type words and quote fetch.

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Gamma and someone else I think.

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Elsa is self-resolving, no? like if there is more than one nk she's the vig.

Can we vig one of Ram/Flippy and lynch the other?

I don't know how much time is left, what are we doing?

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Or SK?

apparently Boon says there's no SK in this game or so Elsa said but I haven't really taken the time to ISO Boon and its not like Elsa was on the table anyways.

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I was hoping for an AC filled D2 but that won't happen.

Why did you want him to be here on d2?

I'm dissapointed in all of you, scum included

Why? We lynched scum. I'm sure you are disappointed that Nips lurked and got lynched though.

gifted it to someone you wouldn’t expect

I mean, I'm right here. Sure scum can't leave me alive in LYLO but I would have used the vig before then. I'm just really heartbroken Nancy. But real talk, why would you not give it to me?

Anyone corroborate Gammas Room C stories?

Why does this matter?

I don't know if this stuff continues beyond this point but it all seems very very dumb to me. Boons mini show-off game has two "alignments" blue and pink and thus has no relevance to the Christmas colors in the main game.

Its past now but I instantly wanted to claim.



I don't know why Nancy would ask if there was more than one room but I'm willing to buy that she was told by Boon.

[Nero Cain]

ignore fact that I've put literally 0 efforts right before deadline to sway lynch despite seeing pushes on "my scumbuddy"

How am I ignoring that? Yeah, you did nothing. I guess what you are claiming is that you cannot be scum with FN b/c you didn't try to derail his lynch and that's possible I guess but it's also possible that you didn't want to risk defending a dying buddy,

[Nero Cain]

..............


you don't think ppl would be the least bit suspicious if you tried to sway from the FN lynch? Either you are the most tone-deaf townie ever or you are scum that just shrugging off any criticism.

[Nero Cain]

anyways, I'm on pg 102 but I gotta go do things so I'll be back later to finish reading those 6 + whatever you fluff monkies produce.

[Nero Cain]

It depends on if you are lynching him b/c you think he's scum or if you are wanting to lynch him so you/some other lurker want to suicide on him.

[Nero Cain]

I'm getting here so late b/c

This happened.

Spoiler:

I'm ok, thanks for asking but gonna have a heckva bruise tomorrow. I was in the white truck.

[Nero Cain]

Eh, SS said they'd do things later. If they don't we lynch him. I won't support a TLK lynch except for you or a lurker to suicide on it.

[Nero Cain]

Davesaz
Ramcius
DrewVa
Karmeleon
If there is a bullet point,
that means they have voted
to end day.

Ram, you have my full support to suicide on him.

[Nero Cain]

Ram could easily be scum with Flippy but I don't think that the day thing makes him scum.

[Nero Cain]

Room C - gamma, thanos, *

I'm the *

Ram is obv town because he clearly doesn't care about dying

counterpoint. Is TLK all that likely to get lynched?

[Nero Cain]

its only like 8 pages but I feel so behind.

[Nero Cain]

better. Not as sore and I haven't had a headache today. Still a few bruises but eh....

[Nero Cain]

Scum claiming SS is very viable

idk about very viable b/c ppl will eventually want that out of the game. But I agree that scum could claim that as to buy them a few days. I don't care if a bunch of scummy slots want to vote him but I think everyone else would need to unvote so as to make sure the TLK wagon happens.

[Nero Cain]

Davesaz
Ramcius
DrewVa
Karmeleon
If there is a bullet point,
that means they have voted
to end day.

NKA is a really mixed bag. Its pretty null, Theta could have shot a50 and a50 could have been shot by not Theta.

@Cheeky. Didn't you call Theta scum?

[Nero Cain]

I vaguely remember that you did and I wanted to ask you why she's wasn't a town read for the same season that Ram's a town read but on the recent catchup I did see that you wanted her vigged.

[Nero Cain]

Also I don't know what it is you're asking here.

You are town reading Ram for being willing to lynch TLK. You are not town reading Theta despite her also being willing to vote TLK.

[Nero Cain]

DrewVA, if you had to end the day this instant, who would you lynch?

Possible scumpost.

how so?

[Nero Cain]

I feel like there's a ton of ppl calling TLK scum but I feel like the chance he gets lynched is low. Seems like an EZ hedge for scum.

[Nero Cain]

Ram and McQueen are my top 2 lynches though I'd verbally support a TLK wagon even though I don't scum read him and I don't know why he's being scumread. Like yeah, the whole "he's scum fakeclaming SS" I understand but I don't really get why he was being scumread prior to claim, I've asked but no one has responded to me.

[Nero Cain]

3445 ?

idk, I'm not really all that moved. 2094 doesn't really seem like a defense to me or maybe I'm stupid and I just don't get it. But lets say its a defence, why is it more likely buddy play than a Ram or Mcqueen? Or were you already scumreading them?


I think the only part that has a little merit is that he RVSed EFN and yeah new scum have been known to do that but that's just not enough for me.

[Nero Cain]

Especially when it's pretty much been decided TLK isn't being lynched

BINGO! Its a safe wagon for scum to hang their hat I think.

[Nero Cain]

Do you think TLK is going to get lynched today?

[Nero Cain]

but I'm not calling TLK scum, nice try to try to manipulate me.

[Nero Cain]

Ofc not, you just ok to sacrifice him, if that will get me killed

Yeah but it's not like I was scum reading him and then switched my read on him.

[Nero Cain]

Who's voting Nero Rn?

I'm not.

[Nero Cain]

That’s cute, popping in and verbally bandwagoning me, even with no prior expressed scumread/suspicion of my slot.

TBF, I had done a shit job of explaining my reads and where I wanted to go today. I had gotten behind and then I had the accident. But I mean, I was all over Ram b/c I think he makes sense as an EFN buddy that wanted to not lurker lynch while fully knowing he had buddies in the lurkers. Why should you not be given the same scrutiny?

"but I've seen EFN as a town lurksack!" No way am I scum light defending my buddy!", he yells.

I realize that b/c I hadn't mentioned your name that you, regardless of alignment, would accuse me of bandwagoning or maybe I'm just scum reading you b/c you make a ton of sense as scum and other town see the same thing? But according to you that makes no sense. On the flip side, I have enough town cred/sympathy that I could have just lurked it out and not exposed myself.

[Nero Cain]

I just did. You tried to sway us away from an EFN lynch. You were also sheeping Ram's false accusations that I was lurking hunting and trying to shade me. Maybe that makes Ram dumb town that you decided to sheep.

[Nero Cain]

What you guys think about using DrewVa's gifted vig shot on Elsa? I'd rather get rid of it early and avoid vig shenanigans later on

Are you suggesting that we lynch the person that DVA gave her vig shot too?

Where do you all think other wagons are forming?

Mcqueen is also a good vote.

[Nero Cain]

Why the switch?

[Nero Cain]

What you guys think about using DrewVa's gifted vig shot on Elsa? I'd rather get rid of it early and avoid vig shenanigans later on

Are you suggesting that we lynch the person that DVA gave her vig shot too?

Where do you all think other wagons are forming?

Mcqueen is also a good vote.

Nah, I suggest to lynch you

tbf, I did misread this for some reason but I still didn't really appreciate the snark.

[Nero Cain]

My thoughts on Elsa are "eh". I don't think being confusing and claiming a bunch of different roles is towny but I also don't think its necessarily scummy. Like I guess he could be scum but rn I just feel kinda lukewarm about the slot and wouldn't shed tears if he died. Any man that thinks he's a Disney princess shouldn't be listened to anyways. :/

@ BEF- I could see Ram as scum but that day rep thing you are pushing is dumb.

@Whomever asked -Mcqueen is getting heat and is scum b/c he tried to light defend EFN.

[Nero Cain]

Your push on me for defending EFN is still bad. I've explained multiple times why I did, but you choose to accept it as scummy and no other way. It's clear no matter how I respond you'll always have an issue with it.

It's scumhunting bro. I mean sure, there's the possibility that you are town that thought the EFN wagon was bad. I've defended scum as town before. *shrugz* It happens. But there's also plenty of scum motivation to do so and it seems like you mostly ignored the reason why he was getting ran up.

But you made 5 posts on Day 2 before that happened, and others after, BEFORE mentioning me, only AFTER others moved their vote onto me. I defended EFN on Day 1 so if you really had an issue with it, something would have and should have been said at the start of Day 2. You're using it to bandwagon me, that's all.

have you even LOOKED @ those 5 posts? 2691 is part of my failed catchup and the rest are sparring with Ram. What reads am I talking about? Though 2698 is kinda important. I'm fussing @ Ram for trying to sway from the FN wagon. Do you really think I'd not feel the same towards you? And I think your incredulousness @ the situation seems fake. The rest of my posts were catching up from those 8 pages that I missed while I was MIA and still not talking about my reads. TBF, your job as scum IS to discredit me and you are doing just that.

it's still a plausible case and BEF pushing it is possibly jumping the gun, but not dumb.

there's no correlation between the winners and day reps. Scum could have used their day rep ability thingy but that's just tin foily.

[Nero Cain]

What do you mean there's no correlation between winners and day reps?? 3/4 day reps are winners!

I'm not gonna talk about this but HE knows what I mean.

[Nero Cain]

from memory the eod absent slots were:
Nero Cain

Or SK?

apparently Boon says there's no SK in this game or so Elsa said but I haven't really taken the time to ISO Boon and its not like Elsa was on the table anyways.

15mins.

Exactly how was I absent?

[Nero Cain]

Yeah, we aren't pre-planning lynches. I'm voting Mcqueen but I'm also ok with you,

[Nero Cain]

What are our thoughts now that you know the flip?

[Nero Cain]

are even :/

[Nero Cain]

This is a good scum tell on Una generally

What are Una's logic slips?

[Nero Cain]

It's hard to obvtown when you don't want to make your main pretty obvious when playing with an alt.

What if you are just scum that's using "I didn't want my ms" as an excuse? Why DID you replace in on your main?

[Nero Cain]

unfortunately

[Nero Cain]

I think Creature is scum and he just spewed mcqueen town. I'm going to move my vote.

~ C

just woke up and don't really feel like digging for this. Can you explain it 2 me?

[Nero Cain]

Karmeleon was obvtown on D1.

Why? Also, this seems more like his scumplay.

[Nero Cain]

Thanos 0-0-0
Ultimate Liars 0-0-0
Profii 0-0-0
Mcqueen 0-0-0
Davesaz 0-0-0
The Last Knight 0-0-0
Cheeky Dancer 0-0-0
Theta Alpine 0-0-0
Elsa Jay 0-0-0
Something_Smart 0-0-0
Gamma Emerald 0-0-0
Xtoxm 0-0-0
DrewVa 0-0-0
BrightEyedFish 0-0-0
Ramcius 0-0-0
Nev and Max 0-0-0
Alonzo 0-0-0
Emperors New Groove 0-0-0
RCEnigma 0-0-0
Nero Cain 0-0-1

you do realize that you've done this exact same thing as scum b4, right?

[Nero Cain]

Creature would know people who know that would say that

I thought about that and eh....knowing that Kam was a Creature alt and Kam's play was more on Creatures scumside. I feel like his "but I didn't want my main to be obvious" is just an excuse for playing to his scum meta. I', also worries, like I get that they are different players and all but I was in a game with The Worst whose alt got ran up so he switched to his main. Its p much the same the Creature did. Oh, TW was scum btw.

[Nero Cain]

I think Neros town for now, we haven't had any meaningful interactions since the silly early posts so it could be Nero avoiding me to muddle a read but not super likely.

:/

[Nero Cain]

So will you indenize us for any psychological damage you cause us if Nero happens to be scum?

Why do you scumread me besides OMGUS or is that all?

[Nero Cain]

ay bro I appreciate the love, but please don't associate with me while you're about to die. if you flip scum I'm really dead, and I know that'd be ideal to you... but then why attempt to save me today?

Are you scum reading Gamma?

[Nero Cain]

ay bro I appreciate the love, but please don't associate with me while you're about to die. if you flip scum I'm really dead, and I know that'd be ideal to you... but then why attempt to save me today?

Are you scum reading Gamma?

Not sure what the quote has anything to do with your question, but I don't really have a solid read on Gamma. Part of me wants to trust Alonzo, part of me just doesn't see enough content from them to lean either way. In my confessional I do have them listed as scum, but that's more of a PoE thing because most of the playerbase is town or null.

If by happenchance you meant Creature, then tbh I have a townread on them. Like his activity as of late, don't necessarily like his entrance.

this "don't defend me" seems really fake.

Am I needed back on Mcqueen?

[Nero Cain]

ay bro I appreciate the love, but please don't associate with me while you're about to die. if you flip scum I'm really dead, and I know that'd be ideal to you... but then why attempt to save me today?

Are you scum reading Gamma?

Not sure what the quote has anything to do with your question, but I don't really have a solid read on Gamma. Part of me wants to trust Alonzo, part of me just doesn't see enough content from them to lean either way. In my confessional I do have them listed as scum, but that's more of a PoE thing because most of the playerbase is town or null.

If by happenchance you meant Creature, then tbh I have a townread on them. Like his activity as of late, don't necessarily like his entrance.

this "don't defend me" seems really fake.

Am I needed back on Mcqueen?

how is it fake? i was reading through the thread, so if you think i said it after more people started a townread on him (myself included), you're wrong.

i don't wanna be caught "redhanded" tomorrow because some scum tried to pocket me. maybe the same should be said about Una, but at the time, she had just replaced in for someone else. Creature didn't.

but why even worry about it when you aren't even scum reading Gamma. That's why it seems fake.

[Nero Cain]

end the day

[Nero Cain]

Aren't we not supposed to be outting winners though?

[Nero Cain]

This is a sad day for town...

Why?


Are you still looking to get lynched?

[Nero Cain]

I still want Creature dead but I'd rather Lynch on wagon.

this is saying that you don't think Creature will get wagoned and that you rather lynch someone with a wagon, right?

I'm fine with Bef as town

Isn't him wanting to know all the day winners a bit rolefishy?

we mislynched someone on the assumption scum inserted someone into day reps...

TBF, I thought he was scummy for other reasons but w/e

The first 3 people who quickly threw doubt out about my Day Rep theory were:

but I did too.

Well Ram flipped town so they must have knew it was false.

I mean, I wasn't a day rep yesterday so why would I agree with something that I knew was false? If you are town then I could see scum blindly agreeing with you to buddy you.

[Nero Cain]

Ur scum cause Alonzo died

yuck

[Nero Cain]

So, now I'm wondering if there is at least 1 scum between nero/thanos/GE due to how they were playing

[Nero Cain]

I assume the worst scenario of 5 scum (I don’t see a world with 6 or more scum in a 23 p setup):

TBF, 5 scum in a 21 is common and OR says 5 in a 23 but I think a mod could theoretically justify an extra scum but we've already been told there are 5 scum so you can stop pretending to be dumb.

[Nero Cain]

Ur scum cause Alonzo died

yuck

?

NKA is a really double edged sword and its not that accurate at all. I felt like it was p scummy (your vote)

Did Gamma say or do anything that made you less suspicious of him or did you just like the case on N+M?

[Nero Cain]

Oh, ok...so we are talking about the BOONus rounds...

First rule of BOONus round is to not talk about the BOONus round.

[Nero Cain]

We aren't. I was kidding about ending the day and that unoriginal hack tried to get in on my joke.

[Nero Cain]

though I guess Performers might count since it was bold unless it doesn't count b/c he didn't bold vote.

[Nero Cain]

I agree I liked the case on N+M too. I remember liking their earlier game and was town reading then but that's a bit stale I suppose. I'll ISO them at some point and see what I find.

[Nero Cain]

The weather is cold, I love it rn but in a few months I'll be sweating bullets.

[Nero Cain]

or

[Nero Cain]

This is a sad day for town...

Why?


Are you still looking to get lynched?

Well, it's a sad day because we mislynched.

I'm still down to be lynched but it doesn't really help that much at this point unless we have someone we want to have hammer me. But then we should just lynch them instead. If anything, keeping me alive just gives us security during the night.

I'm actually not sad Ram got lynched. If a better player was in that slot I might care. Agree that lynches and who should hammer you are interchangeable. Who would you want to hammer you?

[Nero Cain]

ok kewl,TLK is confirmed town now. Who was pushing him as scum besides Ram and Profii?

[Nero Cain]

No...he's not?

i thought he was, idk. I thought Profii made someone loyal and they send ut fruit to "cop" players or maybe I misunderstood something, idk.

[Nero Cain]

oh, ok

[Nero Cain]

It's not a check if he's cum.

TLK is cum confirmed.

[Nero Cain]

but no one is willing to lynch TLK.

[Nero Cain]

if im being honest, i have read maybe 2 pages out of 187

You feel like a spectator too, huh?

What he's just scum lurking?