BooneyToonz Extravaganza: LAST NIGHT TOMORROW

[Elsa Jay]

Nancy and Dva are too kawaii naturally. We can't have kawaii overload!

[Elsa Jay]

Hmm.

This is a conundrum.

[Elsa Jay]

Current news report from Elsa. We appear to be having a harsh time before 2019 is here in America.

We must use situation 292, aka shitposting, as a result. We thank you for your understanding.

[Elsa Jay]

My recommendation is to not post while drunk. Atleast with words.

If you are currently drinking and/or drunk, post your thoughts only in images and gifs.

[Elsa Jay]

Sleeping last night was cool. My first sleep of 2019.

[Elsa Jay]

Let us all know when we dont have to talk about the Boonus games that more then half the list didn't get to participate in.

[Elsa Jay]

Has literally nobody asked why AC was killed? We kinda glossed over that.

[Elsa Jay]

Has literally nobody asked why AC was killed? We kinda glossed over that.

I take it you want to lynch theta

Don't put words in my mouth. I just want to talk about apart of the game I can contribute too. I can't do that with this Boon game since I wasnt in any of them. I also can't do anything with the dayrep thing either. So NK and VC analysis is all I got left.

[Elsa Jay]

Maybe if I type in blue text, I'll be recognized more...

[Elsa Jay]

None of the topics are at hand have something worth discussing to me. Honestly, seeing the 1-shot thing made my claim even less believable then ever, so it's better off I back away from the game for a bit and rethink my strategy.

[Elsa Jay]

He's trying to imply I'm waiting around too see where the dust settles and propose a mislynch on Theta from my scum perspective, McQueen.

[Elsa Jay]

I've literally been just skimming the last 15 pages and I've turned out fine.

[Elsa Jay]

To be fair to the penguin, I DID say to only use gifs if he is drunk. Perhaps he's still drunk?

[Elsa Jay]

One hopes he was drunk.

Elsa what's your read on Profii atm? Who are your biggest scumspects or townreads?

~ C

Townreads are at a later date, but frankly if I have my way today, Profii should go. His role is at best null for either alignment and at worst helpful to scum. Nobody ever took into account how useful it is to make one of Mafias problems Ascetic to not let them get saved by a doctor?

His play is also more scummy in general. He tried to downplay me for pointing out the scummy nature of his role, and is using it as a defense. Common Scum mistake.

[Elsa Jay]

I'll personally hammer TLK if nessecity necessary so town doesn't fear any backlash from his claim either. Otherwise, I feel like the majority discussion is between DrewVa and Theta. I'm wanting Theta to actually play before I make judgement, but otherwise, I'd kill them.

[Elsa Jay]

What about that role makes it townie? In fact, having multiple abilities when appearantly everyone elsa has 1 is a dead giveaway of it. Did you think of that?

[Elsa Jay]

Im not the person to ask here, but it's been done before. And if he outted there being 5 scum and the scum being able to choose a day rep, clearly he's also helping scum behind the scenes.

[Elsa Jay]

I mean either way, I think that a. If provided boon wouldn't give them something immediately identifiable as a fake, and b. Think that as scum they would fake something better.

It's not immediately identifiable. None of you noticed it.

Profii claimed it day 1 and we don't know for sure if scum have daychat. Him claiming was of his own accord, probably not his scum buddies.

[Elsa Jay]

Why I dont mind hammering him is because I no longer want to fake claim, so I might as well die now if I'm wrong on TLK being scum and he's actually Town. Like people say, I'm a liability sometimes. We kill me, the SS did it's job. Win-win.

[Elsa Jay]

Scum claiming SS is very viable strat since its not like you want your vote on them or you can die. Especially in a setup where you don't have an actual VC.

Remember: he is NOT a noob to Mafia. Boon made that very clear. It's just his first time playing forum mafia.

[Elsa Jay]

Only way scum says "I claim SS" is if they are betting on there not being one in the game.

Then it's a win-win to claim it for your comrades to know who to avoid hammering. He wasn't in a good position before his claim. He was literally keeping the VC pointing to his death.

[Elsa Jay]

Go big or go home. You think a friend of Boon IRL wouldnt do that?

[Elsa Jay]

You wont die if your wrong. I do.

I'll do you one better. I'm actually a Miller. I'm saccing my life for the cause here. Vig me if I dont keep my wors and hammer TLK.

[Elsa Jay]

No, I claimed traitor awhile ago Cheeky. I bolded it.

Help me out here in dying and taking out TLK as a possibility of being a Scum. In this setup trusting a SS is horrible. Get rid of me AND him.

[Elsa Jay]

Traitor and Miller aren't the same thing. Optimal play for a miller is to claim in your first post...at least before the first night phase...seriously wtf?

~ C

Traitor was me also hinting at being a Miller, girl.

I literally just called you out for trying to kill the town power roles with the way you were going. Would You rather I push you?

Focusing on me just hurts you more. You dont have to townread me yet, and even if you personally check me, you won't believe me. I'm just a natural of being suspicious.

Why are you so focused on me anyway instead of some others? Is it... Because I've secretly been putting in effort all this time and you subconsciously recognized it?

As was that.

[Elsa Jay]

Traitor and Miller aren't the same thing. Optimal play for a miller is to claim in your first post...at least before the first night phase...seriously wtf?

~ C

This is Elsa Jay we’re talking about. Nothing is sacred to him when it comes to claiming shit.

Yepperoni. Though I don't think I'll ever claim a fake Daycop guilty iday 1 in a Mini Normal anytime soon...

[Elsa Jay]

Davesaz
Ramcius
DrewVa
Karmeleon
If there is a bullet point,
that means they have voted
to end day.

I didn't say I wouldn't CC a fake claim, did I? I just said I wouldn't claim it naturally. Clearly it worked out more for me then it did for you that game.

[Elsa Jay]

Elsa is a he and I'm pretty sure this is par for the course for him.

Elsa is a She. Jay is a He. Let them call me whatever they like, okay?

[Elsa Jay]

The work of an enemy stand is in place...

[Elsa Jay]

What part of "I'm a miller saccing my life on TLK" did you ignore, RC?

[Elsa Jay]

One day, you'll be able to tell when I'm shitposting and when I'm solving the game. Today Appearantly isn't that day,

[Elsa Jay]

More townie then scummy, D.

[Elsa Jay]

Yeah, hang your hat on the supersaint slot. That's like putting your foot in a bear trap, you know what your getting into.

By that logic scum would only do it if they knew for sure it wasn't a SS, IE their partner or something.

[Elsa Jay]

Well it's better then being REC and going "buh, I think I should waste my vote on Elsa after she put herself in a timer with a Miller claim and is literally trying to die today"

[Elsa Jay]

I can read Elsa well. This seems like their town game, IMO.

[Elsa Jay]

I found pages 146 -175 rather elementary.

Getting that out there now.

Oh shit this man can see the future.

[Elsa Jay]

Your also fine being openly scummy, I see.

[Elsa Jay]

More like telling somebody to get vigged on their birthday. You monster.

[Elsa Jay]

I thought I volunteered like a bigillion times to hammer you at this point.

[Elsa Jay]

My thoughts on Elsa are "eh". I don't think being confusing and claiming a bunch of different roles is towny but I also don't think its necessarily scummy. Like I guess he could be scum but rn I just feel kinda lukewarm about the slot and wouldn't shed tears if he died. Any man that thinks he's a Disney princess shouldn't be listened to anyways. :/

Im a Disney Queen though...

[Elsa Jay]

Refund!

(Jk Jk. Holy crap it's basically been an entire year, Una. Fancy to see you again.)

[Elsa Jay]

In just watching him be wrong on everything, so keep quiet about it.

This is like watching a spectator thread appear.

[Elsa Jay]

Am I the president yet?

[Elsa Jay]

More grilling on each other. Same old stuff.

I like that this is one of the first times scum was hung day 1 and aren't being steamrolled, though. That's nice.

[Elsa Jay]

Tbh a fair number of D1 scum lynches are followed up with town losses
At least I think that’s correct

This just in, folks: the optimal scum strategy is now to get hung day 1. Statistically, you win more often if this happens.

[Elsa Jay]

Let's focus on actual scumreads, then default to the "Murder the Miller" strategy, okay?

[Elsa Jay]

You tell me. Your the one reading along more then me.

[Elsa Jay]

Elsa is open wolfing.

Unfortunately NAI for him.

Can't be caught as a wolf if anything and everything you do is scummy, right?

[Elsa Jay]

This is to acknowledge I still exist. Woop woop.

[Elsa Jay]

unfortunately

Hey, I'm trying to die and get out of the game while being useful, bud. It's why I volunteered so handily to hammer the Super Saint. I don't, however, want to let the one-shot vigilante waste their shot on me.

This is to acknowledge I still exist. Woop woop.

I appreciate your existence, Elsa.

I'll put a good word for you in Valhalla, friend.

[Elsa Jay]

That's my family name. You probably confused him.

[Elsa Jay]

I gave up the dragon heritage to become one with myself. I truly am now Elsa.

(God save me, Bambi and Elsa have me trapped, I'm barely given food and water, please I need your heleidbspafjsbdhsofcbsh)

Ahh, excuse me, I hiccuped.

[Elsa Jay]

Well with how I evolved, we're basically 2 different people at this point.

[Elsa Jay]

I voted somewhere I guess. So there's that.

[Elsa Jay]

Boon, did scum know their day rep ability would become public?

That's probably hidden information to the normal Player, SS.

[Elsa Jay]

So we're basically in overtime until Boon gets back online, right?

[Elsa Jay]

Don't suppose I can change my vote now?

:good:

I'm assuming any vote made past that marker the ducky made doesn't count, RC.

[Elsa Jay]

Why are you so sure he was in an event, Xtoxm?

[Elsa Jay]

if im being honest, i have read maybe 2 pages out of 187

You feel like a spectator too, huh?

[Elsa Jay]

What gave away the possibility of me being a traitor? Me literally bolding it in the thread and telling mafia not to shoot me?

[Elsa Jay]

When I checked in last night the pagecount was 191.

[Elsa Jay]

One of their heads said himself he was familiar with EJ and that he sometimes fake claimed though.

if by "sometimes" you mean "usually multiple times per game" ... -d

If it's "broke" but nobody corrects it... Is it really broken?

[Elsa Jay]

You were also the IC in my first ever game, Una, if you remember.

You got murdered day 2 though. Back then Jaber had a Shadow avatar.

[Elsa Jay]

I may have skipped 10 or so pages, but did anyone address the vig shot Drew gave out or something? Shouldn't there have been another kill?

[Elsa Jay]

Wow. NOBODY brought it up?

Hell, I was expecting to get shot by the vig. Why did they holster?

[Elsa Jay]

I can vote now I guess then. How many votes to end the day have happened yet?

[Elsa Jay]

So your vote is already casted or you mean the 2 others voted already?

[Elsa Jay]

Fuck Pandas.

[Elsa Jay]

It was in him for awhile then it moved to more promising areas.

[Elsa Jay]

Am I dead yet? Or am I still hammering TLK?

[Elsa Jay]

Then atleast let me attenpt to be Noble in killing TLK. I still think it's a prime claim from scum to coast through this adventure.

[Elsa Jay]

It was specifically (pass off any of your charges you have to another player). It's a support item, likely for roles like Almost Chara who had a useless visit they could have passed on the charge of.

[Elsa Jay]

I'm really out of it but don't want to force a replacement to have to deal with what I can't
should I replace out or not?

I was considering replacing out too because apparently koki is getting by without being prodded or replaced. Hasn't posted in almost SEVEN days.
Davesaz - similar situation - moved from tr to sr.
What's bizarre is I've seen in numerous games before and in RC's chaotic large theme, you weren't like this in terms of giving up .

EFN (dead now)/dave/mcqueen/koki/ss/GE - is it really that simple??


~ P

Personally that's why I really wanted to hammer TLK on the off chance he is a Super Saint, and not really rejecting getting murdered via lynch.

Why is it when I play like a Survivor everyone wants me drad but the second I want to die you let me live.

[Elsa Jay]

I can vote now I guess then. How many votes to end the day have happened yet?

I voted when I said this.

[Elsa Jay]

Just did.

When am I allowed to die again?

[Elsa Jay]

Glad you like the site and the forum version of Mafia, TLK.

[Elsa Jay]

Someone has cheated death.

I lived, bitches. Both from the mafia AND the vigilante shot. Somehow.

Pedit: Por Que, DrewVa?

[Elsa Jay]

I unvoted and voted again like you told me too, but sadly a fatal error was made because I unvoted and revoted in the same post: it cancelled each other out and didn't count as a new vote.

You do realize, Drew, that means you were roleblocked or someone healed me, the latter seeming possible since scum ALSO didn't kill.

[Elsa Jay]

Well a Jailkeeper would definitely do that.

How elsa do you explain no kill with both a vig and maf shot? Clearly scum went for me as well.

[Elsa Jay]

Why would a town doc out a heal on me of all people, and why would scum claim?

If scum DID heal me, its because I made sure they thought I was a traitor. Which I'm not. I'm a Miller.

[Elsa Jay]

I unvoted and voted again like you told me too, but sadly a fatal error was made because I unvoted and revoted in the same post: it cancelled each other out and didn't count as a new vote.

@mod, if I unvote and vote in the same post, does the timestamp change?

It definitely should.

@Boon

Unfortantely he told me he's not answering this question out loud. Whether that incriminates me or clears me is up too you, but I'm not lying here.

[Elsa Jay]

Some BOONus dude just made me Weak as well as gave me a plus 1 charge. Somethings up here.

BOONus winners, someone just gave their shit to me.

[Elsa Jay]

Because I'm scummy and townie all in one. Of course both mafia and vigi would shoot me. Hell, I knew I'd get shot by the vig since I didn't hammer TLK. Dont know about the mafia though.

[Elsa Jay]

And here I was thinking my quacking days might be over as of now..
+2charges
+ascetic
+weak

Also threw my won prize of "Weak" Elsas way.

Okay, you gave me weak, but did you also give me a plus 1 charge?

If not, 2 separate people gave me shit.

[Elsa Jay]

Also to reiterate my vote shenanigans so you may test it yourselves:

My vote was on TLK, at the timestamp you see Boon gave. Later on when asked, I unvoted and revoted TLK so I'd be the hammer. For what I can only guess is a loophole, unvoting but revoting someone in the same post doesn't reset the time.

[Elsa Jay]

Okay, no matter what I say here my slot has shit going on. Personally everything happening involving me -"someone cheated death", the claimed vigi shot, appearantly 2 BOONus winners giving me shit- makes me more likely town then scum, but I see the suspicion.

Look at how everyone's ever intteracted with me. We'll find the real scum that way.

[Elsa Jay]

Appearantly I gotta win a BOONus game to give this charge I can't do jackshit with. Fun.

Drew I know it's a bit to ask from a guy you literally just shot in the face, but maybe let's look at our options here. The night actions here don't add up.

[Elsa Jay]

RCE is there some reason we can't just out SS's roleclaim from the boonus round? I don't see why we need to wait for him to claim it unless there was something in the last post I missed

-d

Not really I just wanted the claim to come from him for the reactions.

SS claimed Rolecop in the boonus round and explained his actions as him trying to bait Elsa into taking the hammer since he had checked Elsa as Traitor.

Well that's literally the worst lie ever made, bro. So I don't regret you dying in the slightest, SS.

I don't regret shooting scum just cause they lived lol -d

Hardclaim not scum. More in the third party area by my very nature anyway.

[Elsa Jay]

We caught SS as scum. Who checks someone who claims "possibly traitor" day 1 just to also say "yep, that's a traitor alright." Without going public about it? Or trying to push their lynch more?

[Elsa Jay]

A Serial Killer who can't kill and just gets outta town during the night, yeah. I'm killing REAL hard.

I cheated death because I don't stick around on odd nights to die. Night 3 was a blast. I went to hang out with the ducky in Australia.

[Elsa Jay]

Well I lynched him because I thought he was scum.

HE lynched him because appearantly killing a townie is worth it if the "traitor" hammers, which they aren't even garunteed to do. Or more openly push said traitor who you "confirmed checked".

[Elsa Jay]

Yeah, a scum cop. Rolecop already flipped scum, bro.

[Elsa Jay]

Also, WHAT TOWN FUCKING CHECKS A SLOT WHO CLAIMS MILLER/TRAITOR. THAT SHIT IS FOR A VIGILANTE TO DEAL WITH.

Pedit: yeah, which is why you're claiming that and saying "no way mafia have 2 rolecop!". Your not even a mafia Rolecop, probably a goon or something.

You got called out for lying. Why would expect scum!me to ever hammer at all? You just doomed McQueen to death.

[Elsa Jay]

Again, I did vote. The Mod decided voting and unvoting the same person in a post doesn't reset the timer.

[Elsa Jay]

Do you not see why I did what I did? Making sure my guilty was second-to-last so the bullet hits him.

Not sure why you would expect your guilty to tell the truth about vote placement...doesn't compute.

Why not just out the guilty and get a scum lynch?

Finally, a man with sense.

[Elsa Jay]

Yeah, a failed scum gambit. Checking a dude who CLAIMS Miller by crumbing traitor? Who the hell checks that?

[Elsa Jay]

Well with crumbs like that, of course I wouldn't hammer as scum. That's just you "admitting" you wanted me dead.

Hell, 6164 and 6165 would tell me to NEVER vote second to last because then I'd die.

And you "holster" n1 and conspicuously check me n2 AFTER my claim? Even going out your way to lie about having another check on someone elsa just to make you sound more believable?

If your really a rolecop out the other check you have that isn't the one who claimed Miller/Traitor.

[Elsa Jay]

Yeah, a failed scum gambit. Checking a dude who CLAIMS Miller by crumbing traitor? Who the hell checks that?

Because that's totally something you would do as actual miller.

Day 1 i claimed to be informed about a vigilante then admitted to lying about that.

In Overkill 1 I claimed Neutral doctor of all roles and ended up getting shot at by the mafia and Serial Killer on 3 separate occasions.

In Excalibur I claimed to have a fucking sword (which would have made me immune) and the mafia KILLED ME ANYWAY.

You clearly underestimate what I can do as any alignment.

[Elsa Jay]

Would be crazy to be a traitor in a game you claimed traitor in.

Yeah, who would be crazy and stupid enough to actually do this?

Get outta here with the "but I'm a rolecop" shit. Nobody here is admitting to giving you "disloyal" either.

[Elsa Jay]

Oh, NOW your just trying to kill me before you get hung. Wonderful SS.

Thanks for admitting your scum and I'm not your partner. Or, you think I AM a traitor and just tried to bus the hell outta me.

I'm always the mechanically horrible lynch here. SS claimed someome made him disloyal, he's a rolecop, AND he wanted to "hammer" and kill someone he KNEW was probably town in TLK.

Why would you lynch me first so he could talk his way outta dying tommorow again?

Pedit: trust me RC and hang SS first. Look at the stuff he's spouting.

[Elsa Jay]

Well if I had my way I'd have died last night after getting vigged, but someone interfered with fate and let me live.

[Elsa Jay]

Oh, another contender the ring that reveals SS is lying. And makes it so I don't die for no reason. Wonderful.

The fact that I've had my slot become a cess pool of claims and lies clearly let us do SOMETHING right, i guess. Now we can focus around seeing what elsa we get.

I said to fate I wanted to die here, but fate said "No, actually try and help town this time Elsa. We're getting you cleared as a town and stopping the vigilante from shooting your brains out."

[Elsa Jay]

What benefit do we get with my flip as a "traitor"over his as part of the main mafia team?

[Elsa Jay]

What benefit do we get with my flip as a "traitor"over his as part of the main mafia team?

Because I don’t really see scum having two role cops/cops on their team.

Also I don’t believe the bulls hit you’re spewing

M

Have you considering the ever so slim possibility he's a liar? Claiming a role that's flipped scum is an easy way to clear yourself, dude.

[Elsa Jay]

i also had an action fail on elsa last night

VOTE: Elsa

Then this leads more credence someone jailed me or something then. Why elsa would I have survived the shot?

[Elsa Jay]

More research on my part shows me 3 solutions here.

1: There's a Rolestopper who targetted me.

2: There is a Jailkeeper but is the "Alien" variation.

3: the second varient role is "Enchantress" who forced me to Commute.

[Elsa Jay]

VOTE: Nero Cain
you and I need to talk.

Well ignoring the fact I feel we're locked in killing me or SS, what's happening here Gamma? Why vote this?

Pedit: still should answer that question.

[Elsa Jay]

Well okay then.

Say, you have past experience with Boon games, correct Gamma? Hell, you made a Varient role yourself. So I guess this is a thought experiment to see which of the 3 possible options are correct.

If an Enchantress is in the game and thought I was scum, is it beneficial for them to target me so that they could also commute?

Because I'm locked in now that 1 of these 3 targetted me: Jailkeeper Alien Variant, Rolestopper, or Enchantress. That explains why Xtoxm's action also failed on me last night.

[Elsa Jay]

Why isn't "something_smart got an actual guilty" correct? It's rather dishonest to deny the possibility that doesn't favor you.
Play fair or I don't play ball.

He also got called out by DrewVa and Profii for not handing out a neighborhood prize, and Dave says I'm in fact a townie because he checked me and denies SS's results as well.

I believe that's 4 people calling him bullshit for entirely different reasons.

[Elsa Jay]

So by that logic your calling out Dave's claim and ignoring the fact he said he gifted something to Profii, who denies the fact?

Your going at this backwards, bro. His flip takes precedence over mine because he's getting called a liar on multiple fronts.

[Elsa Jay]

Gamma: reasonably unvotes me after I explain the situation

Xtoxm: votes me for reasons unrelated to SS and wants answers.

Nev/Max: "But Elsa has too die first"

One of these 3 is not like the other.

[Elsa Jay]

Minor lies. I'm a compulsive liar and also compulsive truth teller.

Lying doesn't equal scum though in some circumstances. Smart's does, however.

[Elsa Jay]

Sure, that's one major point against me. As well as me surviving the Vigilante. But your having rose tinted glasses on and ignoring Smart completely, so honestly you seem like scum chainsaw defending him.

[Elsa Jay]

I definitely sent the neighborizer shot to profii. Either something interfered with it (which I really hope isn't possible) or Boon just hasn't seen it yet.

Oh look Nev, he's blaming Boon for something too.

[Elsa Jay]

So it seems the tlk flip suggests there is a scum sticky fruit vendor. This to me suggests that ss is group scum, baited our vig shot to elsa, knew his team was fruiting elsa, and elsa is now witholding receipt of the sticky fruit. This matches my reads and explains most of what has gone on. It points away from elsa being the vendor and ss could be the scum vendor so I still like starting there.

There are other possibilities but this seems the simplest right now. -d

That would make S_S scum, Elsa 3p as I'm reading it.
Assuming Elsa isn't a killing 3p, S_S is priority so we don't have multiple fruit floating around.

Even if I was a killing 3p, Una made me weak, so by definition I'm literally useless.

Nev is blinded by my shiny lynchable ass or he's scum with SS.

[Elsa Jay]

Well then congratulations, your ignoring a vigilante who shot me calling him out and even saying "SS takes precedence".

If a vigilante shot me is literally saying "deal with them later", somethings up with you.

Pedit: more chainsaw defense. Vroom vroom wakakakakakakakaka, that's me starting it up for you, Nev.

[Elsa Jay]

Yeah, and you, Smart, lied by not claiming I was traitor and hanging me instead of killing both TLK and McQueen.

A lie of ommison is still a lie, and your lie cost 2 town lives.

[Elsa Jay]

I believed his claim. But I also figured that with all the people calling for his head he'd be lynched at some point, and I wanted to take advantage of that.

Just like a scum would do, right? But noooo, your a townie for killing him and McQueen instead of saving him by confirming your guilty OUT OF A BOONUS ROOM.

[Elsa Jay]

I got my notification I was weak and had a 1-shot charge at 1:15 AM Jan 19th. He's obviously lying since Boon already passed out the bonuses.

Again, Una confirms he gave me the Weak modifier, so theres no excuse for Profii not getting it unless it never existed.

[Elsa Jay]

I got my notification I was weak and had a 1-shot charge at 1:15 AM Jan 19th. He's obviously lying since Boon already passed out the bonuses.

Again, Una confirms he gave me the Weak modifier, so theres no excuse for Profii not getting it unless it never existed.

*29th, before you all dogpile me fore it,

[Elsa Jay]

I didn't submit it until this morning. I was asleep when the day started.

What was the exact time you submitted this action, if you'd like to share.

[Elsa Jay]

None of you thought of a 3p that could be a variant role? Remember, 1 of the BoonBank slots is normal, 2 uses a variant slot.

The inly banned 3p is jester.

[Elsa Jay]

That defeats the point.

Also Hardclaim still Miller and not 3p, I just wanted to confirm with Boon that a 3p slot that isn't Serial Killer takes up a variant slot.

[Elsa Jay]

No, I said it was possible I was rolestopped, Jailkeeped by the Alien variant, or there's an Enchantress.

Scumslip to reveal that there's a Rolestopper, SS? How nice of you.

[Elsa Jay]

I mean. The disloyal action didn't fail because he's town. So some rolestopping effect was applied to him. Ironically, he's slipping himself by not simply suggesting he was docced.

I had no reason to believe I wasn't getting shot by the vigilante, bro. So we discussed a scum doctor healing me, but that's it. Then Xtoxm said ge targetted me last night amd had no action.

You just slipped that of the 3 possibilities, it was the Rolestopper.

[Elsa Jay]

We literally were having a discussion about variant roles bro. We get 2 of them. And "Alien" is considered normal as well.

[Elsa Jay]

Looking at the Jailkeeper wiki, Alien is a more powerful version that stops all actions against the person instead of just rbing ajd protecting them. It even says in the wiki it's considered normal along with Jailkeeper.

[Elsa Jay]

Alien is apparently also normal and would also stop all actions.

Inb4 Performer points out that as a member of the NRG I ought to know this.

As a member of the scum alignment, selling out you guys have a Rolestopper is considered bad form.

[Elsa Jay]

A rolestopper allows the target to still preform actions themselves while Alien stops that too.

[Elsa Jay]

No, I just outted SS and scum and want you to promise me to kill him next if you actually do kill me.

Town Elsa plays exactly like scum Elsa. You should know this by now.

[Elsa Jay]

I still don't know how the hell scum didn't also kill here, Jingle. That's part of the missing puzzle.

So that's why something doesn't add up here as well.

[Elsa Jay]

Well I crumbed Miller by saying I was a traitor. That seems pretty townie to me.

[Elsa Jay]

Which, I'll reiterate, he didn't out to save TLK and by extension McQueen.

[Elsa Jay]

Still think it's either SvTraitor, or S_S doesn't really have a traitor result and went all-in on framing Elsa for not hammering.

The Loyalized possible traitor Elsa vs Mainline Scum Smart who's lied multiple times.

Even mechanically if you think this is Scum vs Traitor, 10/10 the play is to kill the Scum first.

Pedit: He said he "holstered" N1 Jingle.

[Elsa Jay]

But a rolecop gets the role. I'm a Miller. He said I'm Traitor. So he's lying.

[Elsa Jay]

Well I crumbed Miller by saying I was a traitor. That seems pretty townie to me.

Metaing yourself isn’t helpful and why would you ever claim traitor in the first place?

EJ is A50 but with less sanity.

This needs to be one of their siglines, post-game.

I already got one better from North. It represents me well.

[Elsa Jay]

Yeah, but I have it on standby only for if I'm in a game with a Panda.

[Elsa Jay]

Which, I'll reiterate, he didn't out to save TLK and by extension McQueen.

I mean, it's pretty clear that you were supposed to take the brunt on the hit from S_S not hammering, not Mc.

I think you are conveniently ignoring the fact that your action is just as complicit in the death of Mc. And considering the reasoning behind S_S's actions were premeditated and has town intent where your action is passive and has a high scum equity to it, it leads me to see you as nothing but opportunistic scum.

You forgot to include the "Elsa is naturally a Survivor" factor in it.

[Elsa Jay]

Still denying reality, huh Meh? Guess you don't want to accept we're hanging your scum partner yet.

[Elsa Jay]

That wouldn't explain the "Cheated Death" thing Boon said, bro.

You're in denial.

[Elsa Jay]

I did put the good of the town above my own. That's why I wanted to get shot by the damn vigilante.

[Elsa Jay]

Just because it benefits me doesn't mean I'm scum. Townies like benefits too.

[Elsa Jay]

In the same post, correct Jingle?

[Elsa Jay]

Backup Pagetop

[Elsa Jay]

The guy you should really be focusing is Nev, Jing. Look how hardcore in denial he's in.

[Elsa Jay]

You should realize I'm above the gamestate and naturally unkillable. The VC mishap and the shot not working is literal proof Boon is saving my ass.

[Elsa Jay]

So I have ample reason for scum to protect me as a "traitor" or a Alien didn't trust me and targeted me. Or an Enchantress wanted to Commute and targetted me so they couldn't die as well.

If SS's slip of a Rolestopper is anything to go by, then perhaps Mafia did rolestop me and someone elsa blocked their real kill from happening elsawhere.

Pedit: She said she gave it away though, Nero. And her actions take place during the day. Seems unlikely she'd be roleblocked.

[Elsa Jay]

Oh, Nero is actually that far behind. That explains a bit.

[Elsa Jay]

Well with 17 of us, the majority needed is atleast 8 or something, right?

Getting your vote in now is a good idea then, but if we can restate where all the votes are now so we're on the same page:

VOTE: Something_Smart

Who's the 4 who can end the day? Also, there's still that thing where scum can pick a dayrep, so remember that.

[Elsa Jay]

Noted but it doesn't really matter which flips first.

Considering 5 people have claimed to have targeted me these last 2 nights, as well as someome stopping the kill on me via Alien/Rolestopper/Enchantress, not even mentioning the 1 shot charge transfer and Weak modifer I got from Una, I feel my slot is a very invested one.

Killing me is kinda like throwing away an expensive couch despite just paying off the fees of purchase.

[Elsa Jay]

My partners are anyone who is also town.

[Elsa Jay]

considering that you are supposedly the mvp last night in being targeted (n3) and that you keep posting nothing helpful, if you end up being roped today, well, at least we can point a finger at someone

~ P

I've been useful in calling out everything SS and Nev are doing thats scummy, and we basically confirmed SS is mainline scum while I'm most likely a "traitor" that's neutered by Una. Aka I'm a townie.

Hell, i think SS only passed on the neighborhood when we gave him shit for it so he could look townie.

[Elsa Jay]

What's the chances of me being a negative utility role again in the following Large theme game?

The same as a 1/23 chance of getting my favorite role of Survivor in OK1. My luck is like that sometimes.

[Elsa Jay]

Elsa counters that point by not acknowledging it and moving on.

Just trust me here though that I'm town and SS is Scum.

[Elsa Jay]

I wasn't taking it seriously either, but it is weird to bring statistics from a previous game to justify me not possibly being negative town a second time.

[Elsa Jay]

Even if they HAD jailed DrewVa, that still doesn't explain Xtoxm targetting me last night and failing. Supporting evidence point to interference happening to me molre then anyone elsa.

[Elsa Jay]

I think based on what I just wrote above I probably was thinking Elsa was the better lynch, but I think I keep second guessing myself because he hasn't posted a picture of himself as an evil queen yet, which makes me doubt everything
-d

That's one way to townread me, lol.

[Elsa Jay]

Well your 2 options are me or Smart, Una. I wish you luck in you desicion.

Btw, we're all confirming we're voting between Me and Smart, correct? No stragglers please.

[Elsa Jay]

Well your 2 options are me or Smart, Una. I wish you luck in you desicion.

Btw, we're all confirming we're voting between Me and Smart, correct? No stragglers please.

Why Unah? Creature confitowned him already with his disloyal.

... That's kinda why I wanted to know where his vote is going and hoping it's on Smart?

That sounds like you think I said "hang Smart or Una" which is obviously not the case.

[Elsa Jay]

You should probably read the sentence again, P.

Tfw You clarify but are still ignored. It's painful, almost like a newbie game.

[Elsa Jay]

So... who all has/has used neighbor shots?

I know profii, but there are presumably four more out there.

Who cares and why?

I guess you have one. Great, since I have a vig shot and guess who I will use it on.
Someone who knows Bleach and knows my fave chars from them are Gin and Aizen.

~ P

Dangit P the heck are you doing. These kills are getting out of hand.

If your legit a Vigilante, then shoot Nev when SS flips scum and help us out here.

[Elsa Jay]

All in favor of SS dying and Nev getting vigged, say so now. Apparently Performer is taking requests.

[Elsa Jay]

Yes you are. You gave up the right of free choice when you said you got a vig shot.

[Elsa Jay]

Also, if you really wanted to shoot Gamma or something, why even give them a warning? Seems counterproductive, right?

You can work better as a second lynch tonight since you claimed out the blue.

[Elsa Jay]

So... who all has/has used neighbor shots?

I know profii, but there are presumably four more out there.

Who cares and why?

I guess you have one. Great, since I have a vig shot and guess who I will use it on.
Someone who knows Bleach and knows my fave chars from them are Gin and Aizen.

~ P

Dangit P the heck are you doing. These kills are getting out of hand.

If your legit a Vigilante, then shoot Nev when SS flips scum and help us out here.

You want CD to vig a slot that townreads a slot, who claimed to use a “disloyal” on you? Tell me how that makes sense to you?

Have you not noticed his interactions with SS and how hard he defends him now? Just because he townreads Creature doesn't mean he's good. He's picking his battles.

[Elsa Jay]

I have a guess about tonight's kill and it's not us or jingle

-d

Can it be me? Not by vigi obviously, but maybe mafia will be sick of my shit and take me out.

[Elsa Jay]

Me as well, since I think we got 3 confirmed votes on me and Maybe 6 on Smart.

[Elsa Jay]

Oh the Fish exists! Is it bad I thought you died night 2 for some reason?

[Elsa Jay]

I wanted to lynch you day 1 for no other reason then just cuz. You tell me if I'd miss someone I'd do that too.

I do miss Almost and Chara though, even if they talked very little day 1.

[Elsa Jay]

Hey, I wanna be a Weak Loyal Macho Disloyal Loud Miller.

Let's make it happen folks.

[Elsa Jay]

Yeah, absorbing the vig shot was all according to plan. I bribed the Duck to my cause. I'm now a Neutral Miller.

[Elsa Jay]

No

Local Scum refuses the day end vote for fear of the death of his comrade.

More news on the matter at 11.

[Elsa Jay]

Well if I'm going to make it in this world of Mafia, I sure as heck ain't the smartest fella, so jokes and Charisma is my countermeasures to Logic.

Now, to say something_smart and relevant, I believe we have found a hard connection to scum behavior and a piece of the puzzle that contradicts the rest. So if I may implore you all that think I am scum to judge me when our "Rolecop" who called me "Traitor" flips "Town".

[Elsa Jay]

Just hit End Day then, because otherwise the mechanic will never be used this game, I think.

[Elsa Jay]

So now it's up to Cheeky, Profii, and Creature for us to end this day. Welp.

How long do we got until it would end naturally, by the way?

[Elsa Jay]

Yeah I don't wanna wait 9 days, I wanna kill Smart now. He's even given up making a case on me. Don't let your dreams be dreams.

Let's take this game back from the scum with FORCE. Let's get this lynch. This is the time for a comeback!

[Elsa Jay]

Awesome, then 1 more is needed. Woohoo.

Oh yeah, who are you voting for, Profii?

[Elsa Jay]

I’m on S_S

It’s a close run race and either lynch probably has valid pros and cons

I’m going S_S and I think most people have had a chance to consider

VOTE: end of day

L-2 to end of day

Tfw I realize you've said SS like 5 times in your ISO and feel dumb.

So yeah it's Cheeky or Creature to end the day now.

[Elsa Jay]

Would you prefer I say Yeet instead or something, Deevs?

[Elsa Jay]

Silly Dva, I'm a Serial Killer by nature. The only allies I have is the ones I spare so that they may worship me.

[Elsa Jay]

A Serial Killer is just a Survivor with a knife and an urge for murder.

[Elsa Jay]

And as much as I enjoy a good old meme fest, this is a serious matter, as we must send this scum to the deepest depths of hell.

He already Flaked out of town, but we'll catch mister Smart and show him the true meaning of Justice.

Off to fetch me some food now. Catch ya later.

[Elsa Jay]

I don't support this memorial of McQueen on the account he wanted me dead.

[Elsa Jay]

This is the true ploy to make Cheeky or Creature hit End Day, isn't it?

[Elsa Jay]

Come on Elsa, you can dance... just let your inhibitions... go

-d

Impossible, for you see, dear Dva...

I am the tallest of mountains
I am the roughest of waves
I am the toughest of terrors
I am the darkest of days

I'm the last one that's standing
Don't try to stand in my way
'Cause I've been up against better
Just take a look at my face

Cause If you're messing with me
I am a dangerous weapon
I am the sharpest of blades
I'll cut you down in a second

'Cause I was born in this pain
It only hurts if you let it
So if you think you can take me
Then you should go and forget it

[Elsa Jay]

Its more of an edgy vampire, I think...

Yeah, Elsa has gone through some weird shit. You'd be suprised what being locked away from like 8 years old to age 21 does to the psyche.

[Elsa Jay]

Because Creature wants us to suffer and Cheeky Dancer ain't here.

[Elsa Jay]

VOTE: Something_Smart

The funny thing is he tried the "self-vote" trick as his first post too, and now he's lost his steam to push me.

Smart's been given up on by his teammates too. Well, except Nev probably.

[Elsa Jay]

The fish is the least of our worries, but if a volunteer MIRACULOUSLY had a vig shot lying around and didn't feel like shooting Nev or Gamma for some reason, he's always someone funny to shoot.

[Elsa Jay]

Dva didn't read Cheeky claiming a vig shot and wanting to shoot Gamma, I see...

[Elsa Jay]

I know it's Nancy when she alt slips the post before the one I respond too, I joked on the Dva thing.

[Elsa Jay]

You did that alt slip just now on purpose, didn't ya.

The funny thing is the activity overview shows you've Alt Slipped 17 times, Nanxy. That's a bloody achievement.

[Elsa Jay]

With each passing second Something_Smart breathes, a feather on a penguin is lost.

[Elsa Jay]

VOTE: End the day

For the penguins.

Kill Smart. Save your penguins.

This is a global announcement.

[Elsa Jay]

Meh whatever

VOTE: End day

FREEDOM!!!!

Now to go into a state of rest until day 5 when hopefully I'm dead.

[Elsa Jay]

Since you wanna die anyway, what action did you target me in paricular with?

[Elsa Jay]

"What action did he target me with in particular" was my specific wording. As in, protective, roleblock, attack, investigate.

[Elsa Jay]

That's a scummy response that should be hung tommorow.

I can do that too, RC.

[Elsa Jay]

Because claiming ascetic and "I want to die" gives me pause, and he could have multiple actions, OR it was one he got from a Boonus room gift. I want to know which action in particular.

[Elsa Jay]

I'm already a Miller. My job is literally to be anti-town. Lemme ask my questions in peace.