[Game Over] Open 743 - The Crown of Misery

[Egix96]

rb (L-4)

: Lamees, Leodanny, Egix96

Lamees (L-4)

: Malakitty, bristep123, Persivul

Leodanny (L-6)

: Thor665

DVa (L-6)

: NotNova

Dunnstral (L-6)

: rb

NotNova (L-6)

: DVa

bristep123 (L-6)

: Dunnstral

Something_Smart, Auro

well i pretty clearly have opinions on who not to lynch as well so the idea that it's random is obviously wrong

also would you not also prefer to lynch someone else? i don't get it

Fair response. But the problem I'm seeing here is that your push on Dunnstral basically boils down to you just pointing your fingers at him and saying "don't lynch me, lynch him instead!" At least, that's how I see it.

[Egix96]

As far as I can tell from reading rb's ISO, their vote against Dunnstral came completely out of left field, as they had not previously expressed any real suspicion towards him. That's what seems random about it.

[Egix96]

Bad ss, hanging Lamees isn't good play since I'm pretty sure they're town and scum doesn't fake claim that role

Seconded.

[Persivul]

Bad ss, hanging Lamees isn't good play since I'm pretty sure they're town and scum doesn't fake claim that role

Seconded.

To both: what's the downside to scum fake claiming that role?

[bristep123]

unvote

lynching a pr claim day one isn't something I'd like to be part of. Still reading, more to come (promise!)

[rb]

As far as I can tell from reading rb's ISO, their vote against Dunnstral came completely out of left field, as they had not previously expressed any real suspicion towards him. That's what seems random about it.

egix isnt the scum on my wagon fwiw

[rb]

i was too busy trying to get lamees lynched

also wagons are good

[rb]

although tbh i think you should look at dunnstrals ISO and once you're done vomiting at it you'll see why i want to lynch him

[Egix96]

Bad ss, hanging Lamees isn't good play since I'm pretty sure they're town and scum doesn't fake claim that role

Seconded.

To both: what's the downside to scum fake claiming that role?

To be specific, "hanging Lamees isn't good play" is the part I agree with.
I think it's more important that Dunn answers that question first though.

[Dunnstral]

Bad ss, hanging Lamees isn't good play since I'm pretty sure they're town and scum doesn't fake claim that role

Seconded.

To both: what's the downside to scum fake claiming that role?

It's not a well thought out fake claim because even if people believe you it gives a mechanical reason to get lynched

[Something_Smart]

That very argument requires that we consider lynching her for it to be valid.

We don't have to actually do it but we at least have to think about it. If she and rb are both town, it's better to hang her and know that rb is town than to hang rb, have him flip town, and then possibly hang her as well.

[Dunnstral]

I think even if we lynch her and rb doesn't die then people will still wonder if rb is an immortal or something

[Something_Smart]

I don't think 342 and 347 come from an immortal.

[Something_Smart]

If anything, if rb is scum one of the people he mentioned there could be immortal.

[DVa]

It's not a well thought out fake claim because even if people believe you it gives a mechanical reason to get lynched

That's true, but I have seen newred claim vengeful before thinking it will keep them alive through wifom.

Also, I feel like scum more often does very early claims.

Still don't scumread Lamees, still don't want to lynch him today, but the claim was not great, and the whole thing has more left him a nully mess for me than town.

[Something_Smart]

VOTE: rb

[Dunnstral]

Also, I feel like scum more often does very early claims.

I disagree with this

[Something_Smart]

I think it's right to lynch Lamees or rb.

We're in a good spot unless they're both town. If they are both town, I still think it's better to hang Lamees first, but otherwise it's better to hang rb first.

[Something_Smart]

Also, I feel like scum more often does very early claims.

I disagree with this

Yeah, I disagree also. What makes you think that?

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: DVa

i'll just come back to this tomorrow

lamees has claimed and will get sorted anyway

Weird reaction to the angel claim

[Something_Smart]

To be honest, I have literally no idea how to parse anything rb has done this game. I played with him a while ago and he was nothing like this. That's another reason I want him out of the game...

[bristep123]

Something_Smart : Aren't we better to lynch scum, rather than try to use a mechanic to on 2 players we aren't sure on?

I don't like the speculation of lynching Lamees to potentially confirm/lynch another player. SS gets a weak townread for continuing to push it as a viable option in the face of majority opposition.

VOTE DVa

got a bad feeling about this one. Weird meta analysis and weakreading. Time will tell but this is a comfortable place for my vote right now.

[DVa]

Bri what's your read of NN and Mala?

[DVa]

What makes you think that?

Maybe I've played too many games with the Duck on my main and it's messing up my sense of what scum "normally" do

[bristep123]

18 posts between them out of 522 in the game, not a huge amount to go on.