I hate MiSTing posts, but with such a huge block to defend against, I have no choice....
JamesThePhox wrote:
windkirby: You've been backing Kison constantly throughout the game. It started with post 47 with the "kison knows what he's doing" without every considering that he's an enemy? Unless you guys are the same side, which would only happen if you're both Anti-Pikmin.
So early in the game (only page two), it was clear I was joking around. Does the phrase "Yay, kison!" actually imply real trust? I was trying to be funny.
Then post 103 you stand up for Kison and attack JDodge, who consequently is a pikmin, for attacking Kison with valid arguments, I might add.
Kison and I had just finished in a game where a similar slip was made by a mafia roleblocker, and I felt that JDodge was overreacting to a simple discussion of the slip - Kison wasn't even voting for Greasy Spot, and yet JDodge feels he is attacking him so bad over nothing that it warrants a vote. I felt this to be highly unusual, and I felt that the slip was worth discussing.
JDodge wrote:Ha. Knew you'd attack that instead of going after the actual argument. Glad to see that worked so well. I'm more sure that you're scum than you are that anyone is, frankly.
seemed extreme and therefore scummy.
Then post 116, a one sentence summing up that you agree with Kison, without providing extra input. Why don't you ever question Kison, what makes you think he's on your side, if you're a Pikmin?
What makes you think I never question him? Just because I'm on his side on a lot of matters does not mean will not now or ever find him suspicious, and it's assumptuous to believe this just because I didn't express suspicion on this one particular person in a twenty people game. I guarantee had I been prompted, I would have revealed that I wasn't half as faithful in Kison's towniness as you're projecting. I simply felt that Kison was being unjustly ganged up upon, and so I expressed my stance in a humorously brief way. If you wanted me to expand, you should have said so.
Post 184, easy jump vote on the hammerer. More role theory. Mild attack on JDodge.
The hammer was crappy because, as I have said before, ZS should have been given more time. JDodge gave out four votes with the promise that he would explain if requested, but when requested, he refused to explain, claiming it was top-secret meta info. I found this scummy.
Post 211, telling mod to post vote on JDodge. Eager to lynch him, hm?
Uhh, just want my vote posted when I vote for someone. omgscumtell!
Post 231, nothing informative, but a sudden change of heart in voting. Guess your past votes on JDodge weren't too serious. Flimsy voting, potential buddying up to a very vocal Pikmin?
Have no idea what you're getting at here. I was expressing how I didn't like how many votes JDodge was giving out and how it was keeping my vote on him. How is this anything like what you're describing?
Post 251, re-mild attack on JDodge.
BZZT!
Wrong. Sorry, but this post referred to Greasy Spot and Greasy Spot only. Having you attack me like this is awfully unsettling when you can't even correctly report what I'm saying.
Post 262, voting for GS without much explanation? But you've been attacking JDodge oh so much, at least, to the best of your ability.
What the hell! I had been voting him since the beginning of day two, but the mod didn't have this, so I was reminding him! Get it together!
Post 282, noting a short leave of absence.
Post 304, agreeing with skitzer.
Which, of course, totally point to me being scumbuddies with Kison.
Post 324, agreeing with Gorrad.
Post 351, finally somewhat of a reason why you're voting for GS, but I suppose it came right after Kison's attacks on GS. That's understandable.
Since I had vote and explained my vote on GS since the start of day two, I find this innaccurate and therefore somewhat void. Besides...
Kison wrote:Gorrad wrote:Simple. In Uprising, my 'slip' was clarified and accepted by the town. I was able to explain it in a way that made everyone undersand and accept what I meant. Here, I cannot possibly see his slip in the light he's trying to show it in.
Did you not read the exchange between JDodge and me back during Day One?
You are a person. If you're pissed at a group of people, you could say, "You people are pissing me off."
Assume GS is a Pikmin. He says, "You Pikmin are stupid."
Doesn't mean he didn't mean it the other way, but I don't see how you can't see
that
possibility.
Also, if you were so sold on this slip being unexplainable any other way, why did you swap votes to Zombie, who, from your perspective, would have had a much lower chance of being scum?
is going after Gorrad rather that GS, anyway.
Post 359, increased aggression on GS.
Post 375, more attacks on GS. I suppose attacking JDodge while Kison is arguing with JDodge would be a bit too obvious? At least you guys are voting for the same person.. both people. (JDodge and GS)
Oh, I see. So now it's suspicious that I'm
not
backing up Kison.
And thank you for that restatement that we were, in fact, voting for the same people. I repeat, we are hardly being identical twins; you are grossly exaggerating the concept that we simply had similar viewpoints on a few of the current players.
Post 380, reasons against JDodge, but not reason enough to lynch him apparently. (JDodge clarifies this nicely in post 389).
Post 393, good thing you like the way your votes are, would be a shame if you started forming attacks on other suspicious players.
I am stating my opinions, and I rarely change my mind in
any
game. The multiple votes thing slightly tripped up my typical strategy, which is to head straight for a few players I find particularly suspicious, and examine the others at a later time.
Post 408, JDodge threatens to vote people? Oh no. This is a side of JDodge I've never seen before. Ever. Maybe he really believed GS wasn't Anti-Pikmin and that another miss lynch would really hurt the Pikmin?
The way I saw it was that he was just looking for more excuses to hand out votes.
hasdgfas wrote:JDodge wrote:Don't claim. This is a horrid bandwagon and I'm pretty sure I know now why you're coming across as scummy. In 24 hours, I will be voting everyone who is voting Greasy Spot unless they move their votes. It should be incredibly obvious that he's town by now to anyone paying attention to this game.
You need to explain this better than "It should be incredibly obvious why he is town" because there is no way I can see the obviousness of his townieness in basically anything he's done, and there's also no reason that you should vote for every single person voting for him. Just because you see that him being town is "incredibly obvious" doesn't mean that it is to the rest of us. I see someone who is being quite scummy, not "obvious town."
As he said, JDodge hardly explained why GS was so obviously town.
Post 421, hammering a suspicious townie IS pretty suspicious isn't it? Man if all scum hammered townies, that would make our job a lot easier, wouldn't it?
Hammering in the way that GS did is
completely
suspicious, a fact that I have attempted to explain several times that you can't seem to understand. He waited
three posts
after ZS's very reluctant claim denial to hammer.
Post 423, WIFOM speculation on JDodge's 422. And scum voting with their scum buddy isn't very smart either.
*whams head into wall* You think I'm scum with Kison.
We. Get. It.
Post 429, agreeing with skitzer. Good thing you'll take your votes to consideration. Voting without thinking would suck, wouldn't it?
I'm absolutely loving these tongue-in-cheek, oh-so-subtle sarcasms.
At any rate, however, I was conversing with armlx, not skitzer. (holy moly, you suck at names)
Post 436, Kison's posts inspire you to do something that you should already be doing as town. Good thing he's keeping you on your toes.
Goody, more beautifully executed sarcasm. (And yes, I do see the irony of using sarcasm to combat sarcasm.) I simply thought that maybe I wasn't giving enough thought to Gorrad, but after the reread I didn't find much, so I didn't vote for him. Wait! I didn't vote for Gorrad? But dammit, wouldn't that ruin your little argument that I'm always backing up Kison? No wait, we're not supposed to be thinking about that. Moving on...
Post 447, more attacks on GS.
Post 460, questioning my reasoning of my vote on you. Good thing I made this post.
Yes, as so timely, too. You could've at least told me you had a case instead of ignoring me completely.
Post 487, ignoring the Sonickid bandwagon and asking me for confirmation (hey I take my time with this). Clearly Kison had the right idea of joining the wagon. Guess you didn't want to vote the Blowhog.
, indeed. You see, because you left me waiting, I was chasing you. That's how I work. I wait until someone sets off my scumdar, and then I go after them, and I swear you're not going to believe me when I say this, but quite honestly I did not realize that the deadline was so close, or else I would have examined the Sonickid bandwagon. Looking back, I realize that the mod had even said so, but I was so excited by JtP's total lack of response to my request that I wasn't really paying attention. (A mistake on my part.) But as I said before, focusing on a few select players who I find particularly scummy is typically the way I play. I can find you some examples if you like.
