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[Clemency]

urge to omgus rising

[Almost50]

So why didn't the mafia kill the doctor claim? It seems more likely they would kill a doctor and roleblock a Loyal fruit vendor instead?

You tell us that and tell us who your 3rd is and I promise you'll be the last of them to get lynched.

[Gamma Emerald]

Fuck guys I'm really sorry I got my games mixed up, this is the game where I'm a multitasking Neapolitan motion detector

/shame

VOTE: xtoxm
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[Almost50]

i'm going to defend persivul till the grave unless you give me a reason not to

You're lucky I'm thinking mechanically. If I did what most people do here I would actually pair you up with Persy for real.

If there's another Doctor in the game DO NOT CC today

. We already have our lynch.

If Chateau dies on N2 Clemency is likely Scum, but as long as there's no CC to his Doctor claim I'd still be inclined to believe he healed me last night because it makes most sense and especially so in the absence of a NK. (Which can only be explained by the existence of another Doctor or a BP, or a Town RB/JK)

Anyway, Persy eats rope and I will see if I can do some VCA before the end of the day (not too beneficial at this time so I'm not desperate that the day doesn't end, just as long as it ends with a Persy lynch).

this post

It was a bit of this and some of that, tbh. If a doctor is still in play they should still NOT CLAIM today, because Xtoxm is caught scum and we can't lynch 2 players on the same day. The theoretical Doctor stays hidden and tries to save someone tonight anyway, and then they can claim tomorrow and we lynch Clemency.

Right now I think it's Xtoxm + Una + Spring as the most likely scum trio.

Xtoxm has been explained and I think it's obvious.
Una because why wasn't he shot over the "other Loyal Fruit Vendor". The idea of having 2 Loyal Fruit Vendors isn't even that likely in my mind, unless these two were the specific ONLY two "investigative roles" we have.

Spring is someone I suspected all along and his voting patterns are awful, plus that question about why kill Chateau rather than Clem oozes scum to me.

Note that the 3 of them are the last 3 to vote 0verki11 too, which is now becoming a fad for scums to vote the same wagon in succession to mess up with standard VCA (old VCA experts had always assumed scum do not vote together and especially not in succession).

But we will see who else Una claims to have given fruit to before we decide on Una for certain.

Finally,

ANY OTHER REMAINING TPRs: PLEASE DON'T CLAIM TODAY

. Thank you.

[Clemency]

yeah seriously dont claim
early claiming is my thing and it only works if you play as dumb as me

[Almost50]

Xtoxm visited Stanley and Guyinafreezer, tyty for making me out what it most likely 2 TIs.

Mafia xtoxm hasn't visited Almost50, who you claimed to have healed. It can be assumed he actually attacked one of these 2 people. You admit to knowing Almost50 and he applauded you for seeing through his ruse. So you would see through it anyway if you are mafia.

I feel as if Clemency is claiming doctor as a way to cover himself in the future.

Xtoxm didn't attempt to kill anyone on N1. He's a Mafia Multi-Tasking JOAT. This role most likely has 1-shot informative abilities such as Tracker/Watcher/Voyeur/Motion Detector ..etc.

[joges]

Xtoxm visited Stanley and Guyinafreezer, tyty for making me out what it most likely 2 TIs.

Mafia xtoxm hasn't visited Almost50, who you claimed to have healed. It can be assumed he actually attacked one of these 2 people. You admit to knowing Almost50 and he applauded you for seeing through his ruse. So you would see through it anyway if you are mafia.

I feel as if Clemency is claiming doctor as a way to cover himself in the future.

Xtoxm didn't attempt to kill anyone on N1. He's a Mafia Multi-Tasking JOAT. This role most likely has 1-shot informative abilities such as Tracker/Watcher/Voyeur/Motion Detector ..etc.

Oh, of course that’s what he is. Why didn’t I think of that??

[Persivul]

0verki11,

Town Two-Shot Tracker

, was lynched Day 2.

Night 2 has begun! Please submit all night actions within (expired on 2018-12-15 08:10:00) by PM or relevant PT.

Too many people trying for the trick play when they should be focusing on basic blocking and tackling. Cost us an investigation.

VOTE: Xtoxm

There's no point in delaying this. Scum know it's going to happen, so we're not going to get useful information today.

[Persivul]

Xtoxm visited Stanley and Guyinafreezer, tyty for making me out what it most likely 2 TIs.

Mafia xtoxm hasn't visited Almost50, who you claimed to have healed. It can be assumed he actually attacked one of these 2 people. You admit to knowing Almost50 and he applauded you for seeing through his ruse. So you would see through it anyway if you are mafia.

I feel as if Clemency is claiming doctor as a way to cover himself in the future.

And this guy is where we start tomorrow.

[Persivul]

Two more votes on Xtoxm please.

[Persivul]

Intent isn't necessary.

[Springtrap]

Xtoxm visited Stanley and Guyinafreezer, tyty for making me out what it most likely 2 TIs.

Mafia xtoxm hasn't visited Almost50, who you claimed to have healed. It can be assumed he actually attacked one of these 2 people. You admit to knowing Almost50 and he applauded you for seeing through his ruse. So you would see through it anyway if you are mafia.

I feel as if Clemency is claiming doctor as a way to cover himself in the future.

And this guy is where we start tomorrow.

I'm bringing up the idea that he could possibly be a fake doctor from the evidence I see and my perspective. Why is that suspicious?

And ending the day so abrupt is also not necessary. We don't want someone to vote now so he can vote himself and not let us discuss events out.

[Clemency]

i wish i could play a bluff that good
either way if i fake-claimed doc this early it'd put me on a timer if i keep living through the night
assuming xtoxm flips scum it'd be really dumb to make myself the next lynch up if i was his scum-bud

[joges]

Personally I would like thoughts from GIF, N_M, Stan, and Una before we hammer.

[Almost50]

Personally I would like thoughts from GIF, N_M, Stan, and Una before we hammer.

I want Una in particular. No one has claimed receiving fruit yet, so that's interesting IF Una is indeed a second Fruit Vendor.

[Almost50]

I guess I'm trying to keep an open mind and not jump the gun despite it looking like Una (or someone else in the scum team) has been informed of the existence of a Loyal Fruit Vendor. I need to go back and see how Chateau reacted when Persy claimed he received fruit (but I honestly can't explain how they guessed it was Persy if that's the case).

I mean, let's assume Una is indeed a Loyal FV, and he gave Persy fruit on N1. Now who did Chateau give fruit to and why didn't they claim it and why didn't Chateau point out the fact they gave fruit to someone and they didn't claim it? I need to reread the game sometime tonight to find out some missing pieces.

[Clemency]

i'm waiting with bated breath for n_m's unending wisdom

[Persivul]

I mean, let's assume Una is indeed a Loyal FV, and he gave Persy fruit on N1.

Why would we assume that? Did Una make a claim I missed? I just searched his ISO for "fruit" and "vend" and there were no hits.

[Almost50]

Wait! I'm DUMB!

In my text file I put "Loyal Fruit Vendor" next to Una instead of Chateau.

NVM. Brain fart. Forget I said anything in that regard.

[Clemency]

god bless

[Rob14]

Vote Count #3.1:

Xtoxm:

Almost50, Clemency, Gamma Emerald, Persivul (4)

Not Voting:

GuyInFreezer, Not_Mafia, Stan1ey, UnaBombaH, Springtrap, Xtoxm, joges

With 11 players alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

V/LA:

joges until 12/18.

Deadline:

(expired on 2018-12-29 14:05:00)

[Persivul]

Wait! I'm DUMB!

In my text file I put "Loyal Fruit Vendor" next to Una instead of Chateau.

NVM. Brain fart. Forget I said anything in that regard.

Dude...cut back on the number of games...

[Persivul]

I'm bringing up the idea that he could possibly be a fake doctor from the evidence I see and my perspective. Why is that suspicious?

It's not about that post. It's about that weird post in twilight. 923 And a basically empty ISO.

[stan1ey]

VOTE: xtoxm no point delaying this really.
clemency isnt lying about the doctor claim mafia kept him around to plant the seed of doubt

[stan1ey]

thats L-1 i expect xtoxm will hammer himself