Open 742: C9++ (Game Over)

[Almost50]

tries to manufacture drama over 788 (which he still hasn't answered even though he could without breaking rules about ongoing games)

Does anybody speak this guys language? Please??

[Clemency]

tries to manufacture drama over 788 (which he still hasn't answered even though he could without breaking rules about ongoing games)

Does anybody speak this guys language? Please??

in english, dammit

[davesaz]

Votecount 2.3

Egix96(3)

~ Gnelf(41), Gamma Emerald(15), ReaperOfSouls(9)

TTTT(2)

~ Almost50(31), Clemency(10)

ReaperOfSouls(2)

~ Dunnstral(27), Egix96(15)

0verki11(1)

~ TTTT(30)


Not Voting (2): 0verki11(7), PenguinPower(34)

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2018-12-21 21:00:24)

[TTTT]

Stop playing dumb, A50.

You had some sort of secret reason (which is verboten due to the rule about ongoing games) that made you pretty sure he wasn't scum.
day1 Gnelf is run up to L-1 in the space of one page basically for being inactive.
Gnelf hardclaims cop.
At start of day2 Gnelf acted like there was a guilty on Egix.
You immediately voted Egix.
And then spend the next few pages on stupid set-up speculation.

You exhibit zero paranoia and it bothers me.

[TTTT]

^"he" being Egix in that 2nd sentence

[davesaz]

I haven't noticed anything specific, but I'll call your attention to the recent updates to the ongoing games rule, which are found in the 2nd post here.

[TTTT]

Looking back at some stuff...
Persivul last stated he wanted a Gnelf lynch
Maria and LolWagons both said in twilight they wanted an A50 lynch today
I really hate how the wagon moved off of RoS yesterday, bounced super fast to Gnelf (forcing a claim), and then settling on Lolwagons. I think there were some scum votes on RoS that never intended on lynching him.
@Gamma - can you provide me with your Clem read ATM <--- that means at the moment

[TTTT]

I haven't noticed anything specific, but I'll call your attention to the recent updates to the ongoing games rule, which are found in the 2nd post here.

FYI - I'm not accusing A50 of breaking that rule

I was making clear that I understand it's forbidden for us to discuss his reasoning behind his Egix read-change

[TTTT]

Predictions of what is happening in the dead thread:

Maria is saying, "TTTT you idiot just vote A50 already!"
LolWagons is saying, "TTTT you idiot just vote A50 aready!"
Persivul is saying, "I'm out. I can't follow this game anymore if that avatar isn't changed."

[TTTT]

@Penguin - I love you but you are really a waste of an IC
do something

[Almost50]

You exhibit zero paranoia and it bothers me.

I don't get paranoid as either alignment. And the more you reiterate your point the dumber it looks and the scummier you look. I can't believe someone could be so lazy yet so persistent unless they were doing it on purpose.

[Gnelf]

I don't know how I feel about a TTTT lynch.

I'd prefer a Reaper lynch for info or an Egix lynch for scum equity.

[Almost50]

I was making clear that I understand it's forbidden for us to discuss his reasoning behind his Egix read-change

Making clear my behind!

A50 acts like it never happened, tries to manufacture drama over 788 (

which he still hasn't answered even though he could without breaking rules about ongoing games

),

How can anyone lie so blatantly and expect to get a way with it? Dies the second quote (and especially the underlined) tell anyone TTTT understands anything he claims to understand???

[Almost50]

I don't know how I feel about a TTTT lynch.

I'd prefer a Reaper lynch for info or an Egix lynch for scum equity.

Personally, I'd rather TTTT over anyone else. I acknowledge I suspect both Egix/0verki11, but -as I said before- I don't know which of them is TTTT's p. TTTT voting 0verki11 may have been distancing on a p he thought a lynch would never go through on, or it could be starting a new wagon on Town to try and save a p (Egix). It's unlikely that it's both, so in my mind one of 0verki11/Egix is scum and the other is Town. TTTT is the common factor and is scum either way.

As for Reaper, what info exactly do we get from his flip? Theoretically, if he flips red then Egix is likely Town and thus it's TTTT+0verki11. However, if Reaper flips green it doesn't confirm Egix either way and thus I'd still be left with a SR on TTTT + either Egix or 0verki11 (i.e. still undecided).

[Dunnstral]

I don't want to lynch TTTT

[Gnelf]

Well here is how I'm thinking about the game.

We had near deadline two competing wagons, Lol and Reaper. Reaper gets pushed up to L1, reaper spews.

Then I get CFD'd, within the span of a few hours, which is glaringly suspicious because this game has been plagued by activity concerns and slow building of wagons. I claim cop, wagon dissolves.

Then we turn back to Reaper and Lol again, but this time rather than returning to a Reaper lynch, Lolwagons gets pushed up.

Which makes me think that all this effort was to prevent a Reaper flip. Reaper flip incriminates Clemency as well because he was the breaking point to make the Reaper wagon inferior to the Lol wagon.

If Reaper is town though, then we have to look back further and consider A50/Egix/Clemency stuff.

[ReaperOfSouls]

Well here is how I'm thinking about the game.

We had near deadline two competing wagons, Lol and Reaper. Reaper gets pushed up to L1, reaper spews.

Then I get CFD'd, within the span of a few hours, which is glaringly suspicious because this game has been plagued by activity concerns and slow building of wagons. I claim cop, wagon dissolves.

Then we turn back to Reaper and Lol again, but this time rather than returning to a Reaper lynch, Lolwagons gets pushed up.

Which makes me think that all this effort was to prevent a Reaper flip. Reaper flip incriminates Clemency as well because he was the breaking point to make the Reaper wagon inferior to the Lol wagon.

If Reaper is town though, then we have to look back further and consider A50/Egix/Clemency stuff.

A50 is in the right ballpark. My town flip won't answer anything.

[TTTT]

A50 I simply don't believe you are this dumb. I'm not now and never have asked you to explain

why

your initial read Egix changed from scum to town.

i just wanted you to talk about if that read had changed between 399 and the start of day2.
but I'm over it now bc you are impossible to engage

[Clemency]

spicy ad hominem

[Gamma Emerald]

At this point I really just want to hear Dunn, Gamma, and Gnelf's take on Overkill

I recall him being wagoned D1 So that’s probably something to look at
I know that isn’t a real stance but it’s what I find noteworthy

[TTTT]

I don't get paranoid as either alignment.

Is this also true for game-solving?
Because the only way you are town here is if you never game-solve as either alignment.

[TTTT]

spicy ad hominem

It's only an ad hominem if he is town.

[Clemency]

he's definitely town

[Clemency]

i have discovered the bump button

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah, that’s a weird thing, iirc that’s supposed to be for the game mod or smth but sometimes random people can use it