Mini Normal 2050: Serial Killers - Game Over


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Mini Normal 2050: Serial Killers - Game Over

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:46 pm

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Mini Normal 2050: Serial Killers

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Phase:
End - Town win

End Of Phase:
(expired on 2019-01-09 15:03:37)




Playerlist:

  1. Trekkie99
    - Replaces: Doughboy

  2. podoboq
  3. Gamma Emerald
  4. Dannflor
  5. Mewtaph
  6. ofrhz
    replacing bristep123**

  7. mbaki
  8. Sheepsaysmeep
    replacing xtoxm*

  9. LolWagons
Alive:

Spoiler: (7/9)
podoboq
Gamma Emerald
Mewtaph
ofrhz
mbaki
Sheepsaysmeep
LolWagons



Observers:

Spoiler:
Skitter30


Dead:

Spoiler: (2/9)
Trekkie99
Dannflor


Important Events:

Spoiler:
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:56 pm

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RULES:

*inspired by northsidegal


General:

Spoiler:
-Adhere to all site rules.
-Always play to win.
-Remember that this is a game - heated discussion is allowed, but personal attacks are not. Comment on play, not player.
-Pretending to break the rules will be treated similarly as actually breaking the rules.
-Do not quote any private communication regarding this game—this includes your role PM, other mod communication, posts from private threads, etc. Paraphrasing is acceptable. If you're unsure, ask me first.
-If you need to get my attention, please include "@mod" in your post or PM me.
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This (#FFFF00) is my color.
If you use it I will cry.
-Do not use encryption, hidden text or excessively small text in your posts.
-Do not use any form of provable randomness. This includes dice tags, screenshots of random.org, etc. Saying you flipped a coin is okay, providing some sort of proof that you did isn’t.
-Each day phase will last for 12 days, with night phases lasting 48 hours.
-Do not post in the game thread or any private topics following your death, with the exception of the dead thread.
-If you have the ability to edit your posts, do not do so.
-My decisions are final. If I feel you are violating any of the rules, I will take the appropriate action.
-As a general principle, whenever moderator action is required I will attempt to make the decision that has the least impact on the natural flow of gameplay. For example, force replacing instead of modkilling whenever possible.
-Have fun! but not too much fun.


Voting Rules:

Spoiler:
-All votes and unvotes must be in bold or in VOTE: tags, with vote tags being preferable.
-Votes in spoilers will not be counted.
-Abbreviations and nicknames are acceptable, as long as I can understand them.
-Unvotes are not necessary before revoting.
-Lynches will occur when a majority (>50%) is reached. If no majority is reached before deadline, the day will end in a no-lynch
-Voting to end the day in a no-lynch requires only 50% of players rather than >50%.
-Once a hammer has occurred, the game is in "twilight". Discussion may continue until I lock the thread but no further votes or unvotes will be counted.



Specific Setup Rules:

-Night actions this game will follow Natural Action Resolution.
-If you do not send me an action for the night, I will assume that you are not taking one.
-The Mafia private thread will be predominantly open as to balance the game.
-At least one player has received the following role:
Spoiler: Vanilla Townie
Welcome to
game
! You are a
Vanilla Townie
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You have no night actions.

You win when all the Mafia have been eliminated.

Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:59 pm

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7 Confirmations have been made. Welcome to day 1!

VCVOTE COUNT:
Everybody: Nobody
Nobody: Everybody

It takes 5 to Lynch
Time Remaining:
(expired on 2018-12-27 19:05:03)
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:17 am

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Hey everybody, it's been a while!

What do y'all think the chances are of there being a serial killer in a game called
Serial Killers
? :P

Oh and
VOTE: podoboq
cuz I can't decide how to pronounce their name
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:19 am

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VOTE: lolwagons
Cause we should lolwagon lolwagons

Aren’t SKs not allowed?
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“Don’t hate the player, hate the game”

“I don’t give a fuuuuuućk
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:24 am

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Wiki says they're on the normal white list for roles, but it'd be a great troll to name the game that and then not include any
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:37 am

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In post 3, Dannflor wrote:Hey everybody, it's been a while!

What do y'all think the chances are of there being a serial killer in a game called
Serial Killers
? :P

Oh and
VOTE: podoboq
cuz I can't decide how to pronounce their name
In post 4, Doughboy wrote:VOTE: lolwagons
Cause we should lolwagon lolwagons

Aren’t SKs not allowed?
I’m town so you must be scum to vote me

VOTE: Doughboy
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:38 am

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Hey everyone. First game on site in a year and a half.

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

This is the only person on the player list I think I've ever played with before.
In post 3, Dannflor wrote:Oh and VOTE: podoboq cuz I can't decide how to pronounce their name
Poe-dough-bock
In post 3, Dannflor wrote:What do y'all think the chances are of there being a serial killer in a game called Serial Killers?
Honestly, I would guess the title has nothing to do with the setup.
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:47 am

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In post 6, LolWagons wrote:I’m town so you must be scum to vote me
But I’m town so you must be scum for voting meeeeeee
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:51 am

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In post 8, Doughboy wrote:
In post 6, LolWagons wrote:I’m town so you must be scum to vote me
But I’m town so you must be scum for voting meeeeeee
Crap! You got me.

https://youtu.be/0fzcA3RSVTQ
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:52 am

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Vote Dannflor
First to post is scum the most.
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:58 am

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In post 7, podoboq wrote:Honestly, I would guess the title has nothing to do with the setup.
Probably, but it'd be funny
In post 7, podoboq wrote:Poe-dough-bock
Ah see I was saying Pod-oh-bock

UNVOTE: podoboq

VOTE: lolwagons


lol hoppin on the wagon
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:59 am

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VOTE: podopq
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 11:06 am

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I thought the q was silent and it was pod op
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:01 pm

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Interesting choice of game theme.

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

Having an SK in a mini normal is not within guidelines though, so that's definitely out.
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:38 pm

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In post 6, LolWagons wrote:
In post 3, Dannflor wrote:Hey everybody, it's been a while!

What do y'all think the chances are of there being a serial killer in a game called
Serial Killers
? :P

Oh and
VOTE: podoboq
cuz I can't decide how to pronounce their name
In post 4, Doughboy wrote:VOTE: lolwagons
Cause we should lolwagon lolwagons

Aren’t SKs not allowed?
I’m town so you must be scum to vote me

VOTE: Doughboy
Why engage in OMGUS this early? What are your thoughts on how someone should go about achieving their town win condition?
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:35 pm

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Mewtaph, what draws you to that vote in particular as noteworthy? (given it's post #6 and I assume not a serious case of OMGUS)

Do you think a vote or post along those lines is inherently less useful even in RVS?
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 9:17 pm

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In post 16, Dannflor wrote:Mewtaph, what draws you to that vote in particular as noteworthy? (given it's post #6 and I assume not a serious case of OMGUS)

Do you think a vote or post along those lines is inherently less useful even in RVS?
I think that, even for RVS standards, it's not really a productive line of thought to follow, even in jest or RVS.

I want to hear how they think town should approach achieving their win condition because I think it'll help me discern whether that vote was one of complexity (an actual reflexive action against votes on them) or on a less serious note. Their answer will offer me an idea of what to expect from them in future posts.
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 9:45 pm

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VOTE: Mewtaph
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:20 pm

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I mean it's very clearly "on a less serious note," though I am on board with it not being productive. Additionally, how will having an idea of what to expect from him in future posts be helpful? It isn't hard for scum to fake townie consistency when you hand them an opportunity to construct their town persona right at the start of the game.

I don't quite see why
this
is a productive line of thought to follow.
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:51 pm

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In post 19, Dannflor wrote:I mean it's very clearly "on a less serious note," though I am on board with it not being productive. Additionally, how will having an idea of what to expect from him in future posts be helpful? It isn't hard for scum to fake townie consistency when you hand them an opportunity to construct their town persona right at the start of the game.

I don't quite see why
this
is a productive line of thought to follow.
Personally, I think that pursuing early thought processes is generally helpful.

I don't see how answering a question of that nature would really enable the mafia to build up a sense of townie consistency. While the mafia may choose to adopt a specific persona by selling "consistency" as a town tell (subtly, overtly, or waiting for someone else to do it for them), I think as the game progresses, so does their lack of it as they are forced more and more into fake scumhunting for players they know don't exist.

This line of thought is somewhat open to manipulation by mafia players, but I think it's important to inquire and receive expectations of other players' play.

Having an idea, even if brief, of how someone thinks, can ultimately make it much easier to see inconsistencies in one's thought process, or help explain why another player is thinking differently from what you are even if you are of the same alignment - and isn't that what the mafia is afraid of?
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 11:19 pm

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I don't know, is it?

UNVOTE: Dannflor
VOTE: Mewtaph
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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 11:29 pm

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In post 21, bristep123 wrote:I don't know, is it?

UNVOTE: Dannflor
VOTE: Mewtaph
Do you disagree with that line of thought? Why?
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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 11:39 pm

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Okay, I'm following. I suppose I was assuming perfect play when I stated how easily this enables mafia to sell their townie-ness, which is an error on my part considering what the game is. I appreciate the pursuing of early thought processes to try and progress the game, but I can't say I'm sold on this particular process.

The question is just kinda empty? Maybe I'll see it when we get an answer but there's only so many ways to answer "how do you win as town" and they don't reveal much.
I want to hear how they think town should approach achieving their win condition because I think it'll help me discern whether that vote was one of complexity (an actual reflexive action against votes on them) or on a less serious note.
I agree with the rest of your reasoning but I still think this ^^ was stupid.

Also, can you guys explain your Mewtaph votes? Despite my reservations about his methods he's willing to push the game forward and is one of the few players to post literally anything of value so far. I'm feeling town
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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 11:40 pm

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You give scum all the answers, you risk letting them better hide amongst us. I'm certainly not giving anyone an explanation of my thought process, mainly because I couldn't succinctly describe it.
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