Ooh ooh I'm a memer too. Show me what ya got!In post 56, Gamma Emerald wrote:Yes we have a memer on deck
That's cool and all, but... why is DS a doctor?In post 99, Bambietta Basterbine wrote:Clearly I'm informed about what everyone's role is.
If you MUST know:
Cop - davesaz
Doctors - Clemency and DS
Scum - Bambi, Egix96, and bristep123
You obviously have no idea who DS is if you think he's femaleIn post 106, Bambietta Basterbine wrote:She got a n0 clear on herself, of course. Only the doctors get that.
Why arent you asking about why I know Clem is also a Doctor?
So you mean we should hypoclaim then?In post 109, Bambietta Basterbine wrote:Makes it harder if we ALL claim to be PRs though. They'll never figure out what the fuck to do.
In post 110, Almost50 wrote:Ooh.. oooh! I can tell this game is gotta be a shitfest. I LOVE IT!
But did it achieve anything for you?In post 206, ReaperOfSouls wrote:Just simply unvoting.In post 196, Sleepless Assassin wrote:what are you hoping to accomplish with this post?
Unvote, Vote Reaper
Yeah if not for the first part of this post I'd be voting volx now.Almost50 wrote:I'm not liking the Beetlejuice
Nothing of substance? My point exactly. I mean, I get that you wanted to make sure your vote was off the table, but I don't think it served all that much of a purpose when it wasIn post 208, ReaperOfSouls wrote:Removed a random vote.Nothing of substance. Place marker for myself.
The style of some of players in this game are vastly different than any in the first game I was in here.
In post 224, Gamma Emerald wrote:I think Clemency is town
Any reasons for these?In post 255, Gamma Emerald wrote:I’m good having DS as a townread
Yeah, I recognise you from this year's Mafia ChampsIn post 246, DS wrote:Oh hi does someone know me, im interested to see if you may pick up on some of my towntells then
Yeah. I'm thinking there's probably one scum in {Bambi, volxen} but it's hard to say which at this point.In post 256, bristep123 wrote:Ok, 9 pages to catch up on.
Think there's been a movement to paint Bambi as scum, about PR speculation and also jumping on almost50's bandwagon. DS and Volxion just casually parking their votes for completely different reasons, not actively attacking but softly sowing suspicion. Maybe I'm imagining it, but maybe not.
Just making sure you weren't making stuff up. Your reads are more meaningful when you have reasons to back them up.In post 260, Gamma Emerald wrote:Clemency’s posting seems to carefree to be scumIn post 257, Egix96 wrote:In post 224, Gamma Emerald wrote:I think Clemency is townAny reasons for these?In post 255, Gamma Emerald wrote:I’m good having DS as a townread
I feel like I get where DS is coming from
Why do you feel the need to question my reads? You got a problem?
Understandable.In post 263, ReaperOfSouls wrote:I assume to see if it stays where it is?In post 259, Egix96 wrote:Yeah. I'm thinking there's probably one scum in {Bambi, volxen} but it's hard to say which at this point.In post 256, bristep123 wrote:Ok, 9 pages to catch up on.
Think there's been a movement to paint Bambi as scum, about PR speculation and also jumping on almost50's bandwagon. DS and Volxion just casually parking their votes for completely different reasons, not actively attacking but softly sowing suspicion. Maybe I'm imagining it, but maybe not.
I'm still waiting for ROS to come back with some reads before I choose who to vote next.
I ISOed everyone. Having never played with any of you. Most everyone is a null read to me at this point. I don't have to ask if Clemency is always that random. I've already experienced enough to know the answer. My read there is he is completely random. Bambi I feel is random with a purpose. Differentiating what that is is proving difficult on first read. There's alot of random so far in this game. Not sure I like the naked votes by Adelbert Steiner. And something registered with volxen but I need to go back and reread. I see there are few that have sus feelings towards me. Not sure if it's my quietness or something else but I should be able to alleviate those by being more active than I have so far.
To sum up those ramblings I sit with everyone dead in middle, other than AS, Bambi and volxen and those are only first impressions. Nothing that I feel comfortable as of yet pushing.
Isn't it fairly common for people to find it harder to think of what to write when they're scum, thus leading them to post less?In post 273, Sleepless Assassin wrote:I'm curious what made his quieter game worthy of a vote then. You mentioned he was more wordy in the past. What makes you think alignment is the reason for the change?
Well yes, I did say that not everyone posts less as scum. That last point does seem plausible, seeing as he's not the only person who's been lurking so farIn post 276, Sleepless Assassin wrote:Depends on the person. Some people find it easier because you're sticking to a narrative as scum where as town you are trying to figure things out. So as town you may be less sure of yourself. Does something from your history with volx make him strike you as being one way or the other? Do you think it's possible it could be as simple as he had more free time in the past than he does now?
. Besides, it's not as if I can give him any more than a slight lean either way based on so little content. 
Why do you think I've "jumped to the conclusion" that you are scum? It's only aIn post 302, volxen wrote:Interesting read. Given how inaccurate your read of me was in Newbie 1893 (we were both town and you hard-tunneled me on day one), I find it curious that you've jumped to the conclusion that I am scum because I have yet to write any "very wordy posts with lots of analysis" in this game. Yes I had a fair amount of lengthy posts in Newbie 1893, but that game got "serious" very early on, whereas up until very recently this game has consisted mostly of spamposting and joking around. There have been a lot of posts in this game in terms of quantity, but most of them are not "serious" posts. I feel like your read of my slot isn't taking that into account -- you're expecting me to have already written some of my infamous wallposts, even though the majority of the content in this game has been spamposting and joking around. So why would you expect detailed analysis from me at such an early point in the game? You made the connection between this game and Newbie 1893, while completely ignoring the fact that the transition from "RVS" to "serious mode" happened MUCH faster in that game, which is why I had more analytical posts earlier on in that game.In post 266, Egix96 wrote:Understandable.In post 263, ReaperOfSouls wrote:I assume to see if it stays where it is?In post 259, Egix96 wrote:Yeah. I'm thinking there's probably one scum in {Bambi, volxen} but it's hard to say which at this point.In post 256, bristep123 wrote:Ok, 9 pages to catch up on.
Think there's been a movement to paint Bambi as scum, about PR speculation and also jumping on almost50's bandwagon. DS and Volxion just casually parking their votes for completely different reasons, not actively attacking but softly sowing suspicion. Maybe I'm imagining it, but maybe not.
I'm still waiting for ROS to come back with some reads before I choose who to vote next.
I ISOed everyone. Having never played with any of you. Most everyone is a null read to me at this point. I don't have to ask if Clemency is always that random. I've already experienced enough to know the answer. My read there is he is completely random. Bambi I feel is random with a purpose. Differentiating what that is is proving difficult on first read. There's alot of random so far in this game. Not sure I like the naked votes by Adelbert Steiner. And something registered with volxen but I need to go back and reread. I see there are few that have sus feelings towards me. Not sure if it's my quietness or something else but I should be able to alleviate those by being more active than I have so far.
To sum up those ramblings I sit with everyone dead in middle, other than AS, Bambi and volxen and those are only first impressions. Nothing that I feel comfortable as of yet pushing.
UNVOTE:
I'm kinda underwhelmed with volxen so far. From what I remember of the game I played with him before (Newbie 1893 - he was town that game) he had a tendency to write very wordy posts with lots of analysis. Post #253 comes close but I was sort of hoping he'd have more to offer. Then again, it's possible he doesn't have as much to go off this time, but at the same time I'm not entirely sold on BB being scum.
VOTE: volxen
In fact if you look at all of my completed town games, my "very wordy posts with lots of analysis" always start after the game has made that transition from "RVS/joking around" to "serious mode", because that's when people start making actual readable posts that can be analyzed. Some games make that transition faster than others.
Given how quickly you came to this "scumread" of my slot, I feel like I'm going to need to read through your first game on this site (or at least ISO dive your slot), as I know you were scum in that game. You did tunnel me as town in Newbie 1893, but I would think town!Egix would be a bit more cautious in evaluating my slot, considering you were also pretty quick to (incorrectly) scumread me in that game. So while this could be TvT again, I'm not convinced yet that your "scumread" of me is genuinely coming from a town!Egix who wants to gamesolve. But I only have experience with town!Egix, so I will need to look at your completed scum game, because my concern at the moment is that you might be scum and you are purposefully tunneling me to mimic your town play from Newbie 1893.
Wordy yes, but based on my read of Watchmen I wanted I now think that volxen writing wallposts is NAI in itself. What matters is how much is actual analysis and how much is fluff.In post 303, DS wrote:was that a "very wordy post with lots of anyalysis"?
"My little buddy"In post 324, Bambietta Basterbine wrote:5 things we need to change and stat, btw, since you all wanna wait until the Europeans grace us with their presence.
VOTE: The Continent of Europe
1: Dave is someone I'd rather be aggresive because we need someone to not tolerate our shit and get us back on track.
2: My little buddy Giorno I want to have a firm readslist within the next 2 days so i can grill it with you and know your thought process.
3: Bristep's big readslist seem like something I'd do as town, flavorful and all, so ATM he'll be my second town pocket along with Clem.
4: Ofrhz isn't scum with a big talker this game because he's trying to interact with people this time. So I know at the very least who he's not a partner with.
5: Gamma stop being scummy because my current urge to hang goes You, then the Adelbert slot, then [REDACTED].
That's rich coming from youIn post 331, Bambietta Basterbine wrote:Stop being scummy.
Wait wutIn post 332, Gamma Emerald wrote:Are we gonna have to go at it
In post 398, Sleepless Assassin wrote:Egix wrote:
Wordy yes, but based on my read of Watchmen I wanted I now think that volxen writing wallposts is NAI in itself. What matters is how much is actual analysis and how much is fluff.
Thoughts on 302?
Oh God, you're not trying to do that thing you did in this year's Champs are you?In post 449, DS wrote:How many mafia in this game? 3-4 probably right based off the numbers? Percentage wise that seems about right so I'm okay with being the number 5, that'll keep me alive long enough to solve the game.
In the finale game of this year's Mafia Championships (over on Mafia Universe) DS said something like "oh there are 4 mafia? I thought there were 5"In post 462, davesaz wrote:I don’t get the champs reference.
In post 521, Clemency wrote:finallyIn post 515, davesaz wrote:86 posts and only 2-3 of them are tangentially related to game content.
VOTE: Clemency
My ok to yuk it up was not an ok to avoid doing anything all game.
You're doing a swell job of making sure no one else wants to vote youIn post 522, Clemency wrote:i was wondering when people were gonna call me out for my loud lurking
Well no one does. But if you don't wanna get lynched, then why bother making needless fluffposts like 118 and 204?In post 525, Clemency wrote:because i don't wanna be hungIn post 523, ChibiBear wrote:Why were you loud lurking though?
These two posts were made almost 2 whole hours apart. What were you even doing during that time?In post 533, Clemency wrote:alright good effort i tried my best see you tomorrow
It's not as if people haven't been subtly encouraging you to make more of an effort. I don't buy this excuse.In post 537, Clemency wrote:you know i'm actually really lost because i've built my entire character around this immaturity and now i have no idea how to segue into effort without it looking super forced
i need an adult
Because you assume that they're scum and they're trying to pocket you? (@first line)In post 541, Clemency wrote:i'll also have you know i'm automatically suspicious of people who townread me
i've made what, 100 posts with not a single piece of useful content?
> self-awareIn post 561, Clemency wrote:oh no that wasnt sarcasm
i'm very self-aware of how much i suck at this
also i was watching brooklyn 99 during those hours whoops
-> 
What's so yikesy about 566 exactly?In post 576, Gamma Emerald wrote:Yeah
Also that lack of conviction when told it was a joke, yikes
VOTE: Egix
Oh no no don't get me wrong, I still think Clem could be scum. If it had been a "complete 180" then wouldn't I have unvoted him?In post 590, Gamma Emerald wrote:Why does how it’s typed matter
What matters is you pulled a complete 180. Do you not have any doubts he could just be saying it as a cover?
Hey, town. Pay attention to these two. Look how opportunistic they're being!In post 595, Bambietta Basterbine wrote:They say 3rd time's the charm, right? First it was me, then it was Clem...
VOTE: Egix96
Okay then.In post 599, Sleepless Assassin wrote:Yeah that's interesting. If you think your wagon is opportunistic you should be looking at me. I brought up the point against you and didn't vote until my next post after gammas vote and encouraged others to hop on. It seems like you chose to attack the two who are the other leading wagons intentionally.
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V/LA until Friday night
I'm having trouble remembering my exact reasoning, but I think it might have been to do with me thinking that she wanted to get towncred by saving my life?In post 713, Clemency wrote:while i did hop onto the wagon, i agree that it grew concerningly fast
on that note, why is bambi specifically suspect? asking for real
My reads are a bit all over the place atm but I'll try.In post 715, Bambietta Basterbine wrote:... I literally just saved your life and this is how I'm repaid.
Man, if I get hung for this shenanigans and I saved scum because of the holiday spirit, imma be pissed.
Give your other reads first, my dude.
I'll vote volxen if you vote him first. Deal?In post 716, Bambietta Basterbine wrote:Actually let's relook into the dude who put him into L-1 DESPITE ME LITERALLY JUST SAYING DS WILL QUICKHAMMER AND ME GIVING ACTUAL PROOF.
Egix, if you want to blame someone here, blame this bloke who literally came out of V/LA to murder your ass.
Joke's on you, we don't celebrate Thanksgiving where I come from. For me, today was just another ThursdayIn post 646, Bambietta Basterbine wrote:Listen, I just want Egix to have a good Thanksgiving morning without finding himself dead in-game. I'm letting him have a family dinner for the holiday spirit. And i want to hear his side of the story.
In post 724, Bambietta Basterbine wrote: You piss on my car then try to beg me for a treat?
Your not a good boy. Your a bad dog. Shoo.
"you aren't exactly a newbie and you have completed multiple games on site"In post 737, volxen wrote:I find it ironic that you would classify yourself as "low hanging fruit", as you aren't exactly a newbie and you have completed multiple games on site. In our town game together you were certainly capable of defending yourself when you came under attack. And besides that, you started this game off by throwing shade at Reaper (he is fairly new to the site) for simply removing his RVS vote, and now you are pulling the "low hanging fruit" card?
- Too bad, I've just finished my Bambi notes. Still don't wanna read 'em?In post 746, Almost50 wrote:I have decided I don't want to read any post that is more than 2-3 lines long. This game is giving a headache and I will be fine ending the day with any lynch at all.. just end it already.
P.S. Yes, that includes my own lynch.
You literally said that I was better off dead and that you'd still be happy even if I flipped green. And yet you still saved me. That's what I find weird.In post 750, Bambietta Basterbine wrote:I still dont get why you are grilling me for literally saving your life still, Egi. And I've been being buddies as much as I can since the beginning of the game.
For most of the game Bambi has been kind of openwolfy IMO (79, 99, 324 etc.). She now says it's her "being buddies" with people but I'm not entirely convinced. I also think she's been quite hypocritical as well (331, 394) but that's not necessarily scum-indicative. In terms of that reads list I gave the other day, I'm raising her up to about A50/DS tier, maybe slightly below that. I'm not sure really.In post 752, bristep123 wrote:Egix that's a fine long read but what are your conclusions?
I think that's too angleshooty but eh you do you.In post 815, Clemency wrote:here's my theory about ofrhz slot
last game, as a few players here can vouch for me, ofrhz was scum, and not very confident on his slot, so he let his scumpartner run the game along
this game, he pulls scum again, feels less motivated to play
you can see this from the lesser activity and the recent absence
what i imagine happened is: ofrhz comes back from his extended break, and sees us confirm one scum(volx)
not only that, but volx wastes the scum's potential day 2-3 cc on town cop, hindering scum as a whole
ofrhz goes "fuck this", replaces out, lets someone else handle it
i'm so confident on this i wont even spend my investigation on it
Dude. Flaking is NAI.In post 889, Almost50 wrote:VOTE: ChibiBearIn post 84, Almost50 wrote:SCUM POST.In post 63, Adelbert Steiner wrote:Greetings, Almost50 why do you still vote for yourself?
VOTE: Almost50
VOTE: Adelbert
The other one is Alozo, I think
Seems good.In post 890, Gamma Emerald wrote:Quite sureIn post 880, Egix96 wrote:Wow, great start, feels good man.
@Gamma @Almost
How were you two so sure that volxen wasn't the cop?
I did meta work and the results were fairly damning
Well excuse me if I missed the point, but you seem to be disregarding the possibility that Steiner simply got too busy with IRL stuff. I maintain that that slot was true null prior to CB subbing in.In post 900, Almost50 wrote:Where do you get that my vote is because they flaked? He posted, and I immediately reacted to his post at the time with a positive SR, and voted him based on it. That SR doesn't go because he flaked, because it was based on content not activity. That post is a SCUM CLAIM. Noob Scum who was trying to fit in, and I called him out.. SO he flaked.In post 897, Egix96 wrote:Dude. Flaking is NAI.
Sigh, okay then.In post 910, Bambietta Basterbine wrote:Speaking if that Egi, now that Clem confirms me, I expect a thank you now.
Having another exercise in rolefishing are you?In post 928, Bambietta Basterbine wrote:The Chibanana ignores the part about the doctor claim, so I'm just gonna go on a limb and say they aren't a doctor.
Right, let's see who's most likely to have bussed volx here:In post 956, DS wrote:volxen (7) (LYNCH): bristep123, Bambietta Basterbine, Egix96, davesaz, Gamma Emerald, Almost50, Sleepless Assassin
Considering that you were suspecting me for a large part of the game, I find it odd that you think this now.
From your perspective though, it should still make sense if I'm Alonzo's scumbuddy. So even if he has TMI, it doesn't necessarily mean I'm spewed town.In post 988, Gamma Emerald wrote:It’s possible but I feel like the way it is written comes from someone who plain knows you are Town. I think the thing that gets to me is the past tense with little qualification.
His reasoning for voting Gamma is kinda shallow, I think, because he seems to disregard the possibility of Gamma v. Me being TvT. I'd say that 989 is NAI because it's a simple enough excuse for scum!Alonzo to have easily come up with.In post 999, davesaz wrote:Dangerous for scum to point this out, gives me minor townvibes.In post 991, Egix96 wrote:From your perspective though, it should still make sense if I'm Alonzo's scumbuddy.In post 988, Gamma Emerald wrote:It’s possible but I feel like the way it is written comes from someone who plain knows you are Town. I think the thing that gets to me is the past tense with little qualification.
So even if he has TMI, it doesn't necessarily mean I'm spewed town.Well, you can get meaningful stuff from dead town too, but yeah proven alignments are more helpful than unproven.Besides, you can't really get meaningful spew from anyone unless they're dead scum.
What do you think of Alonzo's move here?
