anti-distancing?In post 2031, Keyser Söze wrote:Today I’m gonna be re-reading you and Labby initially.
I feel Relly was trying to paint you as his partner yesterday through anti-distancing...
I’m not concerned about sending someone to heaven right now.
lolIn post 1980, Irrelephant11 wrote:whatever,I veto anyone putting eragon/ausuka into heaven
do what you will from there
pedit: who doesn't want me lynched? I'm consensus, just like creature was
this makes me sketch about ausukuaIn post 2012, Irrelephant11 wrote:you towncased ausuka?
I need a break from mafia
I did a one-sentence version like two pages ago
i believe he was trying to self-presIn post 2054, the worst wrote:do you think Irrelephant unironically thought he could successfully get you wagoned?
In post 2016, the worst wrote:I'd rather let Era respond to Rel's case but I can be persuaded to flashwagon eraas a worst case scenario
Rel lynch is the best currently I'll just feel garbo if he greens
hi.
In post 2289, LabRat01 wrote:sigh
im not against itIn post 2292, LabRat01 wrote:Hi Erag0n, wanna wag0n v0Ix with me? I can thr0w in s0me memes as a c0mpensati0n
ok you are confirmed scum now
In post 1966, Irrelephant11 wrote:I wonder if the reason so many people were bothered with the strong meta townread on volxen was because scum knew he'd flip scum someday, like the reverse of what xwing did when shading Shoshin in this game that just ended
I kept feeling like I was being asked to explain my townread volxen more and defend him harder while also simultaneously being scumread for it which never made sense to me
otoh it would be very very sad if both phase 2 wagons were scum and I do still townread volxen's early posts in retrospect (not his recent play though)
idek
In post 1926, Irrelephant11 wrote:On an unrelated note, I'm 100% going to need volxen to explain his vote on me this game day
these three posts in quick succesionIn post 1959, Irrelephant11 wrote:K well we have 12 hours. VOTE: eragon
After I flip make volxen explain himself, but he's still probably not the scum on my wagon
tw's towniest moment was the tunnel on creature, and I no longer think he's outside his scumrange, but he's done more work than most in trying to sort, so I'm still inclined to think he's town.
Keyser is town or the boldest scum that ever scummed. Don't lynch him to either heaven or hell imo
I could be wrong on labrat, maybe they're scum, but I literally know what they're feeling rn so I kinda feel like her tantrum (for lack of a better word) is towny
Eragon is scum by way of lying about me, coasting off towncred he doesn't deserve, and pushing wagons without joining them
Ausuka is scum by way of lack of content, being on both wagons iirc, and PoE
In post 2306, volxen wrote:@Labrat,
The soonest I would be able to do a serious ISO dive on you would be Friday or this weekend. But I know the last scum is you or Ausuka. I'm not worried about getting mislynched, because I know I'm town and me getting mislynched won't cost town the game, provided Keyser and Eragon listen to me.
If I am mislynched today then do this do win the game:
Heaven 3: Eragon
Hell 4: Labrat
Then the last two are {Keyser, Ausuka}. Martyr's lynch Ausuka and GG. This doesn't need to be complicated.
i mean, this push on Labrat was honestly... like really bad?In post 1914, Irrelephant11 wrote:Has labrat explained knowing the meta thing yet?
In post 116, Irrelephant11 wrote:labrat come vote the worst with me
this feels like a better conversation to have in scum chat.In post 120, Irrelephant11 wrote:Oh, yes, I understand now
Sounds like you agree w/ me he is scum
vote him with me?
does this seem more likely that irrel chose 1 scum/1 town or 2 scum???In post 162, Irrelephant11 wrote:It was mostly for a reaction, they'd been overreacting to other things and I wanted to see what would happen if I voted them
Not much, so meh, probably still town. I can maybe buy the reason for "intentionally overreacting", even though I disagree that the things pointed out were AI for lab
rat/drj... possible scum partners but only if they planned for early theater from the get go
makes me wish I knew who labrat was to know if that fits her personality but for now it seems less likely
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EURGH THIS FENCEIn post 170, Irrelephant11 wrote:He wouldn't (obviously) but he has good instincts as townIn post 165, Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde wrote:How would Keyser know that unless he's scum?
It was mostly just to get him involved in the conversation, though, I didn't really expect him to have more info than meI mean, I would say "we're the wagon on tw, it would be too bold as scum for us to do this", but it would sound a lot better coming from someone else, u knoIn post 165, Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde wrote:I mean, do you have a reason why I shouldn't suspect that as the team?(Even though I think {TW, Lab, Creature} is more reasonable)
Also do you really think it's the three of them?? I don't understand how you're this confident (especially on creature, who hasn't posted once?)Your push on labrat is too much imo and I can't decide if it's more likely to come from scum!you or town!youIn post 165, Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde wrote:What things did I point out and say were AI?
Also, Irrel, do I seem like the type of person that would do this as scum, especially when we just finished a game where I described my meta several times?
Like I don't have this super strong townread on labrat but I feel like you're really sure he's scum because... he contradicted himself?
tbf I guess it's towny of you to push him hard to get more that *is* AI from him, so I should probably just let you two do your thing and see how it goes
In post 618, Irrelephant11 wrote:I would like to send volxen to heaven please
In post 620, Irrelephant11 wrote:labrat is probably town, too
way too many words to be scum for like 80% of players
I'll double-check this before sending them to heaven but not interested in a labrat lynch atm
In post 2321, LabRat01 wrote:And no, I'm just posting on the phone :/ haven't done anything about the computer yet
i love messed up images
Give me the weekend to read through at leastIn post 2342, LabRat01 wrote:are y0u sure y0u d0n't want t0 v0te v0Ixen?
I can wait tiII he makes his case 0n me and any0ne eIse he wants t0, but this is reaIIy n0t g0ing anywhere
Oh sorry mines metalIn post 2340, LabRat01 wrote:mine t00, I have a fake, pIasticine 0ne attached instead s0 that n0 0ne n0tices the difference
BAHAHAHHA I KNEW IT.In post 2376, LabRat01 wrote:ejjinami
my keyb0ard is br0ken, s0 in a few days it'd be 0bvi0us anyways ┐(￣ヘ￣)┌
Welcome to my lifeIn post 2384, LabRat01 wrote:wait, I have t0 ping manatee that there was a fIip
he d0esn't visit the site 0ften s0 it c0uId take ages if we just wait f0r him n0rmaIIy
I know I really shouldn’t be townreading this, but I amIn post 2391, LabRat01 wrote:I'm reaIIy s0rry, I was s0 incredibIy c0nfident taht y0u'd fIip scum
Do you think keyser is scum?In post 2402, LabRat01 wrote:tbh, f0r me it is: as I0ng as erag0n is t0wn and TW thinks I'm m0re t0wnie than y0uIn post 2400, Keyser Söze wrote:I believe the same thing, but in my world view it’s:
“as long as Eragon is town this game is 100% auto-win for town”
Does anyone disagree with this?
but that's unIikeIy t0 happen
I reaIIy want t0 say that the Iast scum is ausuka, but tbh I d0n't even kn0w
I feeI Iike I'm d0ing sth extremeIy wr0ng
This is another thing I want to TR Lab for, why would they hard push a town to get quickhammered when it puts considerable suspicion on them and it’s nist not worth it for scum.In post 2406, Keyser Söze wrote:LabRat was non stop asking for Volxen’s quicklynch and to end the game.In post 2403, Ausuka wrote:Did I read the thread wrong or did you just hammer him?In post 2398, Keyser Söze wrote:That is why we should have waited for Volxen to defend himself...In post 2390, LabRat01 wrote:0mg, I'm s0rry
(I admittedly wanted him sorted anyway due to TW’s request anyway).
No more quicklynching now, agreed?
I’m now gonna continue looking at my town read of Eragon.
Town-Eragon wins us the game IMO.
I think that labrat is townier than eragon.
After your quick vote, I gave LabRat what she wanted.
Btw voting someone to heaven becuase you think someone else is scum is obvious bullshit and TMI as fuckIn post 2432, Ausuka wrote:VOTE: keyser soeze
Let's just end this game. Nobody seems interested anymore and I'm confident enough that last scum is era to go ahead with this.
In post 2411, Ausuka wrote:This is what you're talking about right Lab? I don't see why Eragon couldn't just have done it to look town; I wouldn't say his victory is literally a guarantee. And many people don't, like, think about everything they do as scum, they just try and emulate their towngame as much as possible until they win; Eragon might just have done that because that's what he would always do as town and he plays scum like he's playing town.In post 2331, LabRat01 wrote:tbh agree with that, that's p much a I0ck-t0wn read f0r me
if y0u want fresh stuff, just I00k at Erag0n's read pr0gressi0n in the Iast 2 pages and the way he answered my requests t0 quick-Iynch v0Ixen
At first he said that he thinks v0Ix is the m0st IikeIy 0ne t0 fIip scum and he d0esn't mind v0ting him, yet he didn't v0te and just f0cused 0n finding aII 0f th0se weak and undependabIe interacti0ns in Irre's IS0
then Iater 0n, when I enc0uraged him t0 v0te again, he refused, "because he wanted t0 anaIyze stuff f0r a bit I0nger", which feIt Iike he Iegit did intend t0 get s0me inf0 0ut 0f what he was d0ing
I find it rather unIikeIy that he'd be s0 set 0n g0ing thr0ugh aII 0f th0se p0sts when:
1- m0st 0f them were 0bvi0usIy undependabIe and REAIIY easy t0 fake, s0 unIess he'd suddenIy start finding reaIIy imp0rtant interacti0ns, his wh0Ie eff0rt w0uId m0st pr0b g0 t0 waste
2- IiteraIIy every0ne is TRing him rn and by 0ffering t0 quickIynch v0Ix rn, I was basicaIIy giving scum!erag0n an 0pp0rtunity t0 get quickIynched t0 heaven with0ut having t0 d0 much
3- Era v0ting v0Ix after I asked him t0 d0 it w0uId be 0k with his reads and if v0Ix fIipped t0wn, the wh0Ie bIame w0uId pr0b g0 0n me anyways
4- Erag0n said that he's busy and trying t0 retire fr0m FM, s0 he w0uIdn't even need t0 d0 anything s0 unrewarding/weak and time-c0nsuming f0r pe0pIe t0 keep TRing him. He w0uId be perfectIy fine with just writing sh0rt reads, faking s0me pushes and then pretending that he has t0 d0 0ther stuff and pe0pIe w0uId stiII have m0st IikeIy TR him
Erag0n being s0 set 0n I00king thr0ugh the scums' IS0s and anaIyzing abs0IuteIy everything feeIs very t0wn-m0tivatedIn post 2294, Eragon wrote:im not against itIn post 2292, LabRat01 wrote:Hi Erag0n, wanna wag0n v0Ix with me? I can thr0w in s0me memes as a c0mpensati0n
Ego-wise i want Volxen to flip town and you to be the scum because that means i was only hard-wrong on one read this game
Spoiler:and c'm0n, just I00k at this sad face
Iike, I d0n't kn0w if I can even expIain it pr0erIy, but everything he did rn makes s0 much sense c0ming fr0m t0wn p0v im0
Doesn’t do anything except votes volxen hell 3
Soft defends irrel in the beginning of this postIn post 1993, Ausuka wrote:165 is heating Irre a little hard for earlygame tbh?
This is kind of what I'd expect from a Drj/Volx/Irre team although Era and TW would also fit and so would I so probably not that conclusive. Does make Lab and Soeze look better though.In post 1073, Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde wrote:Also, quick readslist:
{DrJ}
{Volxen, Eragon}
{Irrel, Ausuka, TW}
{} - Null
{Lab(?), Soze(?)}
{Creature}
{}
This wifom is grinding my head in.In post 1656, Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde wrote:Here are my last words, lynch keyser or tw tomorrow, preferably the latter of the two, if scum send the other to heaven and lymch irrel and you'll have a good chance of winning. Good luck!
Dr J obviously didn't want volxen in heaven; he wanted Keyser. This is confusing, but maybe also important? Jekyll obviously didn't really want to have town in heaven; if they did they would've resisted their lynch far more than they actually did. So either Dr J or Keyser must have been scum's target for heaven. However, Irrelephant wanted volxen to be elected.
So, listing the possibilities that I can see:
1) Scum wanted Dr. J in heaven, badly. I see Irre's Dr J vote as simply a protest vote - therefore I don't think this is exactly consistent with Irre's agenda for d2, unless he only began to care at the day-end and scum didn't care until then? Does that make sense?
2) Scum just didn't care. But in this case, why would they all be on the Jekyll wagon?
3) Scum preferred Jekyll but didn't care that much. But then like why would Irre keep suggesting alternatives?
4) Scum preferred Volxen. Jekyll wouldn't vote Volxen though.
So the only possibilities that exist wrt/ d2 on this team as far as I can see is that scum didn't care until the end, when they decided they wanted the Jekyll wagon (but why?) or they all just happened to decide Jekyll was best - which is possible, yeah, but I don't think likely exactly. Or Irre wanted Jekyll in heaven the whole time but decided to distance himself until he had to vote. Idk.
“Don’t try to build a case or solve the game or anything becuase I’m being lynched next phase”In post 2440, Ausuka wrote:Dude everyone is already lynching me hell 4 there's no point saying any of that stuff. I feel confident that keyser and labby are town. Even if the jd decision isn't up to me, I'd much rather not lynch you today.
In post 2443, Keyser Söze wrote:Is Relly’s Scum-read/push on Eragon bothering anyone else?
In post 2444, Keyser Söze wrote:Eragon first to post an articulate case on Relly D1...In post 1550, Eragon wrote:im akshully very confident in an Irrel!scum here.
on top of not liking their posts this game, from what i have seen...
they do not have the same form of transparant towni-ness that they were fond of in WW.
Like, did anyone ever even scumread them in WW?
they were extremly obvious through thoughts, reads, wagons, etc... and even from a scum perspective i knew that was always going to be town
this game i have seen almost absolutely none of that, im not sure if its b/c different perspectives or what, but i do not see any similarities, and dislike their posts not-meta based either
In post 2445, Keyser Söze wrote:God daaamn this looks TOO GOOD to be scum theatre.In post 1533, Eragon wrote:“Eragon seems under-eager to solve”In post 1530, Irrelephant11 wrote:okay actually a few thoughts before I go because the game isn't playable without all slots talking:
I still think tw is probably town, I just didn't feel good post-creature flip about his strong push there. But otoh the intensity of his push rang towny (not sure tw gets that intense against a friend just for a d1 mislynch), and imo creature was playing scummy anyway. Eh I still have bad feelings here, but the game makes more sense to me if he's town
Ausuka made some good points about volxen's play that, especially depending on who volxen is scum with, bring volxen back toward possible-scum, even though I still lean town for him too. Ausuka is also very bold if scum, challenging commonly held ideas.
Keyser/eragon always has a scum, possibly two. Keyser seems overeager to throw shade, eragon seem undereager to solve, both have strong scumgames and I wouldn't put it past them to manage to both be offwagon
I have literally no clue what to do with labrat because I've seen p much nothing from the slot d2 and only remember the keyser push from d1
Hot take: DrJ is the townie with the worst reads so far, which is why he is easy to wagon this game phase. Paranoid about the very popular push to Heaven them, but maybe scum are just looking to lynch townies in every phase idk.
Something like:
{me}
{the worst}
{volxen, ausuka, DrJ}
{labrat} - null
{keyser, eragon}
ausuka should maybe be a scumread, I haven't had time to analyze trajectory, just getting town from the bold play
I'm mentally on page 51, so do with this what you will
Let’s see.. shall we?
Who is the only person(other than maybe keyser?) That correctly read creature
Who actually MADE A CASE on volxen being town that’s not “Oh ThEiR fIrSt FiVe PoStS mAkE tHeM oBv ToWn On MeTa”
Who has been reconsidering reads
Who has 40 more posts than you and joined at the end of D1
Who has acually been in thread for the majority of time active?
So stop this bullshiting of yours
You call Ausuka either town or very bold scum for going against the trend?
WHAT ABOUT ME TOWNREADING CREATURE?
Do you have like, selective amnesia or some shit?
“Doc J is town with terrible reads”
Great doubtcastig you have there
Before you do crap like this actually make detailed reads of your own, or, you know, like actually make reads that aren’t sheeping TW and that you can explain yourself?
I think the only slot really not talking is you?
Lab has been very active
I’m here
Keyser is here
Ausuka is intermittent
Doc J is here
TW has presence
volxen has picked up a lot in d2
“8 haven’t been around to make a case or anything or really been around at all yet I’m 100% confident in lab/keyser being town and eragon being scum”In post 2450, Ausuka wrote:I can't build a case right now. I haven't been able to for a while and I'm sorry that I haven't turned up. But like look at labby's d2 and you should see what I mean about her being genuine? Her emotions really did seem real there.
When he pushes from the very start of the game?In post 2451, Ausuka wrote:Like this could genuinely lose us the game and I just :/
Irre's push on era isn't towny at all. Irre was dying obviously nobody wanted to save him, why wouldn't he go ahead and make a push on his buddy?
Labrat never said keyser was scum in the last page?In post 2460, Ausuka wrote:Labby keyser isn't scumI know you've srd him for a while but why would he ever vote Era there if he was scum? It doesn't make any sense, voting himself probably wins the game.
TBF id take out the doc j part becuase I ended up townreading them pretty much stronglyIn post 2467, Keyser Söze wrote:Eragon has had the best game as scum or town.
Defended Creature
Suspected DJ.
Crucified Relly.
Never in anyone’s PoE.
There’s no bad defeat here.
What is this even saying?In post 2470, Ausuka wrote:But wouldn't vote.In post 1644, Eragon wrote:{volxen, Doc J}
{Lab, Ausuka, Keyser/TW}
{keyser/tw}
{irrel}
IMO here, irrel is always scum
one of keyser/TW is always scum
and then unless someone enlightened appears and changes something, one scum in Lab/Ausuka
i feel confident in the reads for Irrel/{keyser/TW}, but its the other scum that i feel is having a truly towny and good game, and the hardest to find.
ive already cased volxen, so i doubt that
Doc J just oozes towniness, and their catchu[p, while really onyl quotes(?) as someone said before, it shows thoughtfulness and looking back and basically towny.
Lab i have felt their progression to be towny and their ideaolgoy and theory have been pretty town-oriented
and ausuka doesnt feel off in any way, but probably my weakest townread
And he has been in poe?
I guess it doesn't matter what I say though so do whatever.
