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Post Post #4450 (ISO) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 5:19 am

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Yeah I saw that going through your iso with your 1-shot.

Admittedly, I’m trying really hard to not-Town read you and I have a lot of trouble. The only thing that makes me uneasy is your push to get things over with so quickly, but I also can’t tell if that’s normal cadence or just how you play. I know I’m the slow one here.

What do you mean by your shot found an SK?
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Post Post #4451 (ISO) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 5:21 am

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In post 4450, Amzela wrote:Yeah I saw that going through your iso with your 1-shot.

Admittedly, I’m trying really hard to not-Town read you and I have a lot of trouble. The only thing that makes me uneasy is your push to get things over with so quickly, but I also can’t tell if that’s normal cadence or just how you play. I know I’m the slow one here.

What do you mean by your shot found an SK?
I said my shot had the potential too, not that I found one. I got Bujaber.

I’m just posting a lot, and realized I need to talk to you guys real time to figure it out. Wasn’t trying to rush things. This game ends when it’s time for it to end.
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Post Post #4452 (ISO) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 5:23 am

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I can see why it looked like I was trying to get things to end quickly. It’s just how I post.
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Post Post #4453 (ISO) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 5:26 am

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How experienced are you at Mafia in general? You come off like you know how to play mafia, but are new to the forum side of things, and if I remember correctly, you are in fact friends with someone who was in the game, right?

I don’t know how well you can fake things, and that’s why I’m getting uneasiness from you.
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Post Post #4454 (ISO) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 5:28 am

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No worries but *squints comically*.

DrewVa is on V/LA anyways so if we can just slow it down a bit until DrewVa is able to defend themselves.

I’ve discovered I’m terrible at Mafia. I’m dating Cerb and he told me to try it out but also it’s been a point of stress. I don’t know the roles that well, especially the complicated roles, and the jargon plus the meta has been really rough to try and decode.

So maybe I can fake things? But goddamn please tell me how I’m doing it.
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Post Post #4455 (ISO) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 5:30 am

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Well, when I talk to you, I get the “oh, she’s just new.” and I lean town, but then I think about it more, and I’m like “nah, she’s better than she’s letting off.”
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Post Post #4456 (ISO) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 5:34 am

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I was thinking about it earlier, and literally nothing DrewVa says is going to make me happy when regards to the investigate.

Fortian - Dead
Dave - Dead
Flavor - Innocent, I’m going to think it’s a ploy to get me to mislynch Amzela.
Flavor - Guilty, then I know for sure it’s DrewVa, but you have to see that I’m town.
Amzela - Innocent, this is effectively the same as the last one.
Amzela - Guilty, this is effectively the same as the Flavor Innocent one.
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Post Post #4457 (ISO) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 5:37 am

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In post 4456, Flavor Leaf wrote:I was thinking about it earlier, and literally nothing DrewVa says is going to make me happy when regards to the investigate.

Fortian - Dead
Dave - Dead
Flavor - Innocent, I’m going to think it’s a ploy to get me to mislynch Amzela.
Flavor - Guilty, then I know for sure it’s DrewVa, but you have to see that I’m town.
Amzela - Innocent, this is effectively the same as the last one.
Amzela - Guilty, this is effectively the same as the Flavor Innocent one.
This is for if DrewVa is town as well, except a couple of them can’t happen if DrewVa is town.
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Post Post #4458 (ISO) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 5:41 am

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In post 4450, Amzela wrote:Yeah I saw that going through your iso with your 1-shot.

Admittedly, I’m trying really hard to not-Town read you and I have a lot of trouble. The only thing that makes me uneasy is your push to get things over with so quickly, but I also can’t tell if that’s normal cadence or just how you play. I know I’m the slow one here.

What do you mean by your shot found an SK?

On the flip side, this post did well in making me comfortable with you as town, which also makes me uncomfortable.

You said you were trying hard not to town read me, but was having trouble with that. Earlier I thought that you saw why I was proven town, but was trying to keep an open mind, which is fine, covering all the bases.

But it technically also keeps me open for a potential mislynch.

I’m just stating anything that comes to my mind. It helps me figure things out.
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Post Post #4459 (ISO) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 5:50 am

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I have a list of things I want to investigate but family right now.

The thing I do want to follow up on is Tails saying I claimed VT and I know you were asking for people to claim. Didn’t post and, as you expect, I am claiming VT.

It’s also stupidly hard to go back and forth reading you scum, town, and 3p for BOTH of you with ISOs as long as yours. Keep all the possibilities open. Keep all the paranoia on.
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Post Post #4460 (ISO) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 6:43 am

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I mean, I generally do believe it’s DrewVa, as I have the past couple days. Paranoia is all.
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Post Post #4461 (ISO) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 6:59 am

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Cool so we get to play "did fl gambit or did tails gambit"

I wanna say fl is more likely here but that also requires figuring out how fl knew buj was mafia and not sk/under

Also I think Nancy thinks its amz so we will probably need to actually be on at the same time to talk about this

Fl was there a vanilla result on amz? Who all did you get from alonzo again?
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Post Post #4462 (ISO) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 7:05 am

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Pinn, Tails, Gamma.

I didn’t get anything for Amzela.
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Post Post #4463 (ISO) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 7:11 am

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If you look at me Day 4, I was stating I thought Gamma was town. I got the vanilla result then, and I thought Profii was gambiting with his guilty because of my role, mixed in with not expecting there to be another goon. I was wrong there, though. I wasn’t on any of the Underdog wagons, either. I don’t know if that makes me come off as scummier or townie, but I figured I should mention it.
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Post Post #4464 (ISO) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 7:12 am

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In post 4461, DrewVa wrote:Cool so we get to play "did fl gambit or did tails gambit"

I wanna say fl is more likely here but that also requires figuring out how fl knew buj was mafia and not sk/under

Also I think Nancy thinks its amz so we will probably need to actually be on at the same time to talk about this

Fl was there a vanilla result on amz? Who all did you get from alonzo again?
I did gambit, but I gambited as town. I explained when I claimed my real role.
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Post Post #4465 (ISO) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 7:19 am

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I understand the slight paranoia on me, but like...I feel like I’ve had an incredibly strong town game this game.

My play Day 3 I started pushing Tails because I got the result then, and he was being sketchy about the lack of flips. I even came in yesterday stating that Tails was the most likely SK, alongside you.

I stated Fortian/Dave were both probably town at the beginning of yesterday.

I don’t know if me analyzing my own play is helping or not. I’m just trying to have peoplesee that I’m town.
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Post Post #4466 (ISO) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 7:23 am

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Now I get that whichever one of you isn’t town benefits from having the paranoia up on me running is a good thing, but regardless, you guys gotta help me out here because from my perspective, I can’t tell at all which of you isn’t.

I was half hoping that DrewVa came in here and forced a 1v1 with me. I expected ScumDrewVa to do so.
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Post Post #4467 (ISO) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 7:31 am

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I feel like any case made against me is just a forced grasping at straws tbh.
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Post Post #4468 (ISO) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 8:28 am

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Not sure what to say. I did see this as one possible scenario but I thought if anyone not fort was the sk they would kill us

We thought most likely scenario was bp odd night so and that there would be no kill with fortian failing on dave

Sk outside of dave/fort seemed like a remote chance and so now we are left here. We checked dave btw

I dont think tails would get a result on a dead town right? So he should have known one real role

You also did all the wifomy stuff about pgo which did scare nancy off checking you earlier even tho I proposed it one of the nights

But yeah this is not obvious to me. It could be nancy will just vote amz because your result on buj is hard to reconcile with an sk

Like I can see you gambiting him being not town but I dont know how you call him as maf specifically
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Post Post #4469 (ISO) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 8:32 am

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If you’re town, then he got your role or Fortian’s role.

Fortian made the case about that yesterday about you.

I don’t think he got Fortian’s.

I also don’t like that you’re nearly strictly focusing on me when you’re the most likely lynch today.
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Post Post #4470 (ISO) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 8:36 am

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In post 4353, Fortian wrote:
In post 4348, Flavor Leaf wrote:This doesn’t add up, because how would he have known Amzela is VT.
She claimed?
In post 4356, Fortian wrote:
In post 3404, Amzela wrote:
In post 3199, hebichan wrote:Does it?

Just because I'm voting on someone doesn't mean I care if I get lynched. I'm a VT in a role madness game again.

I just want to get my scumreads out before I die.
VOTE: hebichan

Get off my fucking role, scum.
In post 3977, Amzela wrote:Oh shit son I think that's 8.

@FL
Also, I too missed 3847. I don't blame you. I am confused as how me voting RR when you think RR is scum makes me scum. It kinda seems back-firing.

Before this gets closed down, I want to mention that if you lynch me, I'm okay with that. It's going to be a mislynch and I think I angrily claimed VT at Hebi because I thought there couldn't be multiple roles, but from what I understand, VT is kind of useless anyways. But yeah.
In post 4357, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 4353, Fortian wrote:
In post 4348, Flavor Leaf wrote:This doesn’t add up, because how would he have known Amzela is VT.
She claimed?
No, but Tails claiming that is surefire death if he was wrong about the VT. I don’t think he makes that up even as SK.
In post 4361, Fortian wrote:
In post 4357, Flavor Leaf wrote:No, but Tails claiming that is surefire death if he was wrong about the VT. I don’t think he makes that up even as SK.
I mean, she hard claimed twice, tis not really a risk at all.
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Post Post #4471 (ISO) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 8:38 am

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In post 4345, Fortian wrote:I'm almost certain that Tails was revealed of DrewVa's role due to DGB's death and thus claimed "holstered" so he can try and go for the "Two SKs" thing as a defence here.
Here.

We found out that the holstered thing wasn’t true, but yeah.
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Post Post #4472 (ISO) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 8:52 am

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In post 4447, Amzela wrote:My other question, and correct me if I’m wrong, is who did DrewVa investigate last night, if they investigated, and why?

FBI Agents (which is their claim) can investigate once per night right?
Unfortunately, we investigated Daveas, since we deduced that Fortain had to be conftown due to N5 kills, proving his role. :facepalm:

We just assumed that since Tails was the even night SK, there would be only one kill last night and a guilty on Dave, would be an inno on you (Amzela) and vice-versa.

So, either we were right about that and FL is being bad town or

I have egregiously misread him but

But it would totally suck, to have come this far in the game, and have bad town mess this up for town.

I’m torn because of everything FL has said about his role previously and his weird read on us. It should be blatantly obvious to whomever, is the last remaining townie in the game, other than us, that we’re locktown here, so I honestly don’t know what to think now.

DrewVa confitowned us with that readslist, when she mentioned that Bujaber, RR and Gamma weren’t 3rd party. How could we have possibly known that otherwise?

I voted for Gamma immediately after he called Profil’s guilty on him, “fake”, because we knew based on our role, that we hunted “the other wackos” that he couldn’t investigate.

If FL is town here, he is 100% going down as the WOAT of this game and if he’s actually scum, then it totally sucks that we could still lose at this point.

I don’t even understand how it’s even possible that there were 2 kills last night and even more shocking, why does scum kill the vig over the SK hunter?

None of this is making a wit of sense to me.
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Post Post #4473 (ISO) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 8:55 am

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In post 4449, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 4447, Amzela wrote:My other question, and correct me if I’m wrong, is who did DrewVa investigate last night, if they investigated, and why?

FBI Agents (which is their claim) can investigate once per night right?
That’s what they’ve been claiming it like. Another reason I thought they were likely 3rd party. Because my shot was able to find a SK. That’s too swingy, even for this game. Under specific situations, 2 SK’s could have been outed by Day 2. Extremely unlikely, but it would have been possible.
No, our investigations only kept turning up group scum: Bujaber, Gamma or dead town: RR, Thor until we hit the jackpot with Tails.

If FL is telling the truth here, then this is Karma for YGM, I guess.
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Post Post #4474 (ISO) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 8:59 am

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I disagree that I’ve been “bad town”. I personally feel I’ve had a great town game this game.

I also had a town read on you the majority of the game, so I don’t understand. I didn’t start 3rd party reading you until later.

You brought up the “how can someone see us as scum, we conf town’d ourselves.”

No, I conf town’d myself.

I legit proved that I am town with the Bujaber thing. That was my entrance into that day, which was a complete 180 from anything I was talking about.

I had a theory about you being that role you claimed as a SK, but I thought I was going too much. But if you felt you were the only SK in the game, that’s an easy gambit.
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