Large Normal 217 (Game Over)

stan1ey · Post Post #1075 (ISO) » Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:41 am

A50 please tell me what you think of this:

In post 988, stan1ey wrote:also, I have changed my mind on Perisvul, he is town. xtoxm was pretty much caught scum, whether we lynched overkill first or xtoxm first he was going to die sooner rather than later so there was no way he would ever bus his partner to try and save himself for 2 nights maximum.

i am quite confident that persivul is town because of this

stan1ey · Post Post #1076 (ISO) » Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:53 am

im very suspicious of you right now A50, one of Clemency and Joges has to be lying because of the N2 roleblock situation and we should resolve that sooner rather than later, youre advocating that we lynch someone outside of those 2 and its going to delay lynching one of them potentially to a point where its too late and we no longer have the luxury of lynching the wrong one

joges · Post Post #1077 (ISO) » Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:56 am

In post 1073, Clemency wrote:joges why are you so damn willing to be lynched today

Only because I feel strongly that it catches scum. I will always accept my lynch when it catches scum. I also don't think my lynch ends the game. So I'm fine with it. If I thought it was LyLo it would be a different conversation.

In post 1074, stan1ey wrote:because joges i am not 100% sure you are scum, i think its more likely that you are scum and clem is town but i would not be shocked if it was the other way around and i dont want the day to end before ive fully got my head around the situation

Well I'd like to be informed when you've got your head wrapped around it.

Persivul · Post Post #1078 (ISO) » Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:13 am

In post 1072, joges wrote:Town need to stay on course here and remember this. It makes no sense to dig up a case on someone else out of the blue when
it's clear Clem or I need to go today
. I do not like A50 and Pers deciding to target each other out of the blue.

Here's the thing: that's not so clear after all.

Consider: from your POV (and I believe you), town had a tracker PLUS an investigative JOAT.

Is it then impossible for scum to have a RB PLUS a JOAT with a RB shot?

If you're sold on that and CLEM is going to be the lynch, I'll consider voting there. But I'm not voting YOU today, when your green flip wouldn't guarantee a Clem red flip.

With A50's behavior today, I'm reasonably sure he's scum, but I'm no longer so sure that Clem is his partner.

joges · Post Post #1079 (ISO) » Wed Dec 19, 2018 12:16 pm

Has anyone thought of the possibility of a 3rd party? As in, what if Clem did protect A50, but of course he wasn't the kill. Maybe Stanley or GIF are BP SK? I can't really explain why N3 was the first night with a double kill, but A50 did mention a vig D3, so maybe they thought it was safe to start killing? But if there was a RB maybe they RB'd one of Stanley/GIF, does that stop a kill?

Then they found out who the doc was and started RBing them, but then why wasn't there another kill on N2 unless maybe SK and scum went for the same person?

joges · Post Post #1080 (ISO) » Wed Dec 19, 2018 12:17 pm

Or maybe A50 was targeted by the SK and Clem stopped their kill with Clem protecting them, and then there was no kill because scum shot BP SK.

Then N2 they targeted same person.

N3 different people.

joges · Post Post #1081 (ISO) » Wed Dec 19, 2018 12:20 pm

If the above is right, that makes:

Me
A50
Clem
One of GIF/Stanley all town

Leaving
One of GIF/Stanley
NM
Pers
Gamma

as potential scum scum/sk

Of course, that's from my point of view, it's up to you to agree or disagree.

Almost50 · Post Post #1082 (ISO) » Wed Dec 19, 2018 12:25 pm

In post 1075, stan1ey wrote:A50 please tell me what you think of this:
In post 988, stan1ey wrote:also, I have changed my mind on Perisvul, he is town. xtoxm was pretty much caught scum, whether we lynched overkill first or xtoxm first he was going to die sooner rather than later so there was no way he would ever bus his partner to try and save himself for 2 nights maximum.
i am quite confident that persivul is town because of this

UNVOTE:

I'm not voting anyone today. You guys do as you wish.

Almost50 · Post Post #1083 (ISO) » Wed Dec 19, 2018 12:35 pm

In post 1076, stan1ey wrote:im very suspicious of you right now A50, one of Clemency and Joges has to be lying because of the N2 roleblock situation and we should resolve that sooner rather than later, youre advocating that we lynch someone outside of those 2 and its going to delay lynching one of them potentially to a point where its too late and we no longer have the luxury of lynching the wrong one

I concede t looks like we need to lynch in joges/Clem, and I confess I don't know which of them to lynch, so I'm sitting aside and letting the other townies move on so as not to be a distraction myself.

Persivul · Post Post #1084 (ISO) » Wed Dec 19, 2018 1:23 pm

@joges: with the number of kills, a 1X vig seems much more likely than a SK

Rob14 · Post Post #1085 (ISO) » Wed Dec 19, 2018 5:55 pm

Vote Count #4.2:

Clemency:

joges, Gamma Emerald (2)

joges:

Clemency (1)

Persivul:

Not_Mafia (1)

Almost50:

Persivul (1)

Not Voting:

GuyInFreezer, stan1ey, Almost50

With 8 players alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

V/LA:

None.

Deadline:

(expired on 2019-01-02 00:20:00)

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #1086 (ISO) » Thu Dec 20, 2018 5:37 pm

In post 1079, joges wrote:Has anyone thought of the possibility of a 3rd party? As in, what if Clem did protect A50, but of course he wasn't the kill. Maybe Stanley or GIF are BP SK? I can't really explain why N3 was the first night with a double kill, but A50 did mention a vig D3, so maybe they thought it was safe to start killing? But if there was a RB maybe they RB'd one of Stanley/GIF, does that stop a kill?

Then they found out who the doc was and started RBing them, but then why wasn't there another kill on N2 unless maybe SK and scum went for the same person?

SK is very unlikely due to lack of kills

joges · Post Post #1087 (ISO) » Thu Dec 20, 2018 6:56 pm

Well, vote Clem then.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #1088 (ISO) » Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:35 pm

Im not voting now cos im getting paranoid about potential loltraitor and this being mylo.

Almost50 · Post Post #1089 (ISO) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 1:50 am

@joges: Your push on Clem is unfounded and is actually scummy. You do not exhibit any paranoia in a 4-2 situation and your being stubborn about this gives me heebie-jeebies. Add to it that your claim doesn't add up with the flipped Town roles, and I think you are mist likely scum.

VOTE: joges

I'm sorry if I'm wrong here.

Persivul · Post Post #1090 (ISO) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 2:19 am

In post 1089, Almost50 wrote:a 4-2 situation

Almost50 · Post Post #1091 (ISO) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 2:27 am

In post 1090, Persivul wrote:
In post 1089, Almost50 wrote:a 4-2 situation

Oh!

We're 6-2. OK.

Still, 3 mafia vs 11 rather than 10 Town means SCUM had to have something to compensate it.

Of course, it could be 4 vs 10 and in that case both joges and Clem are Town and we may have a Mafia Traitor in play. Maybe THAT is why Mafia had a ROLECOP?? SHIT!

UNVOTE:

Almost50 · Post Post #1092 (ISO) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 2:29 am

VOTE: Gamma

This is CONFIRMED Scum. If we have 3 Mafia alive (5-3) and both votes on Clem were TOWN then Mafia had enough time to hammer that.

stan1ey · Post Post #1093 (ISO) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:31 am

What makes gamma confirmed? I was thinking that its probably joges and gamma/NM or clemency and A50/NM

joges · Post Post #1094 (ISO) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 4:26 am

In post 984, Almost50 wrote:VOTE: Persivul

Think about it.
Town has a JOAT
, Loyal Fruit Vendor & a Tracker. Where's our protective?

In post 986, Almost50 wrote:VOTE: Gamma

In post 1060, Almost50 wrote:VOTE: joges

In post 1066, Almost50 wrote:VOTE: Persivul

In post 1089, Almost50 wrote:@joges: ...
Add to it that your claim doesn't add up with the flipped Town roles

VOTE: joges

In post 1092, Almost50 wrote:VOTE: Gamma

All of A50s votes this day. Add to it also two quotes I noticed don't add up, in that he was fine saying Town has a JOAT at one point, but now doesn't think the claim adds up.

@A50 Why are you convinced that I'm lying and not Clem? What has Clem done to prove to you they can be trusted more than me? The only time you've even considered lynching him is if my lynch proves I'm telling the truth. For someone acting so paranoid with your votes and constant changing, it's crazy to me that you've not yet had a bad feeling about Clem.

Rob14 · Post Post #1095 (ISO) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 5:15 am

Not_Mafia has been prodded.

Not_Mafia · Post Post #1096 (ISO) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 5:21 am

Lynch Persivul

stan1ey · Post Post #1097 (ISO) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 6:09 am

VOTE: Not_Mafia

Not_Mafia · Post Post #1098 (ISO) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 6:10 am

You spelt Persivul wrong

Almost50 · Post Post #1099 (ISO) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 8:06 am

In post 1093, stan1ey wrote:What makes gamma confirmed? I was thinking that its probably joges and gamma/NM or clemency and A50/NM

Read the post again, mate. 3 Mafia = joges get Clemency gets hammered unless Gamma is one of them. joges and Clem being Town make sense if we are are up agaisnt 4 Scums not 3 in a 14 players game.