Open 744 - Lovers and Losers [endgame]
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Wow, getting some really strong Toby vibes here! That guy is always trying to shutdown my fun!In post 11, Egix96 wrote:Hey guyyyyyyyyyyyys
Aren't game threads supposed to be locked during pregame? I don't get what's going on here...
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Are you asking me to a dance-off, boy? Because you stand NO CHANCE against Date Mike in a dance-off. My moves are outta this world, and you can't compete with me. Everybody loves my dancing.In post 14, Egix96 wrote:
I take it you're Auro thenIn post 12, Michael Scott wrote:
Wow, getting some really strong Toby vibes here! That guy is always trying to shutdown my fun!In post 11, Egix96 wrote:Hey guyyyyyyyyyyyys
Aren't game threads supposed to be locked during pregame? I don't get what's going on here...
VOTE: Egix96
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I guess that, since the game technically hasn't started yet, I get to openwolf as much as I want until we start for real...
Mwahahahahaha... That goody-two-shoes cousin of mine will never know what I'm getting up to... Hahahaha!
So whaddaya say, Mikey-boy? Wanna dance?
As my buddy David Wallace likes to say, SUCK IT!
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No, Date Mike is Volxen I'm Jimothy.In post 14, Egix96 wrote:I take it you're Auro then
Volxen really likes his Date Mike persona.
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Yep! Also, claim pl0xIn post 41, muh316 wrote:So does this game only last two days?- Michael Scott
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Good scum definitely won't all claim VTs, they're gonna divide into one lover pair and one VT.In post 42, LolWagons wrote:Why the reluctance to claim? Mass claim is ideal.
Scum can’t choose who they want to be in which group after the fact, they’re forced to commit up front.
So one fake VT, all we need to do is scumhunt there.- Michael Scott
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I was actually considering "Scott's Tots" as a username for this Hydra. heheh.
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@Bambi If you are claiming town lover then you should just outright say who your lover partner is. You don't need to wait for them. We didn't wait for Mcqueen because there was no point in doing so.
If we insist on everyone speedclaiming, it makes it harder for scum to plan their fake claims because the longer they take to claim, the more suspicious it makes them look. This makes it harder for the scumteam to strategize on things like which one of them should fakeclaim VT and so on.
This is why Jimothy/Auro is being so "demanding" about having everyone speedclaim. Because there is literally no reason for anyone aligned with the town to delay their claim.
Anyone else who is claiming town lover should list who their lover partner is upfront.
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Lovers get their pre-game PT, and I don't think this comment comes from lover!Bambi.In post 36, Bambi Jay wrote:Not even waiting for McQueen to appear? Wow, so cold.
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Slightly get TMI vibes from here, tooIn post 56, Bambi Jay wrote:Yeah, pocketing/working with Lolwagons
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I'm assuming you mean Egix, considering he is the only player that you have really interacted with besides our slot. But why not just outright say this?In post 65, Bambi Jay wrote:If you cant tell by my interractions already who it is, then obviously you weren't paying attention.
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No Nightkills, massclaim and lynch two VT claims is the best strategy for town.In post 68, Donempire wrote:How do 3 people get three pages of content before day 1 even starts?
Well it sure does seem interesting now.
Do mafia get nightkills or what?
If you agree, could you claim right now?
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Yeah, Elsa Jay.In post 83, LolWagons wrote:Is it an alt or something?- Michael Scott
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That's expected, unless scum's stupid -- even if the claims came at a later point, we'd have 3 lover pairs and 3 VTs overall.In post 91, Bambi Jay wrote:This is Fricken why I didnt feel like having everyone claim immediately. 3 lover pairs. Sigh.- Michael Scott
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(3/9) + (6/9)*(3/8) = 1/3 + 1/4 = 7/12 =58% EVif we lynch without the massclaim.
We'd have a lot of associations because of the multiple lover pairs, we'd also have scum distancing, so it's much harder than you imagine. Speed-massclaiming isn't something scum would anticipate and participate in directly, making the ones who did it later likelier to be scum since they'd have to plan their distribution of lovers and vanilla.
Besides, associations you can draw are much more solid now, wait and you'll find out what I'm talking about.- Michael Scott
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Sorta circular reasoning here; obviously if *I* am scum there's no question of whether scum anticipates it or not.In post 95, Bambi Jay wrote:But how can scum not anticipate it if you literally come in swinging as scum and make it your goal?
If I was scum I'd prolly not propose the massclaim in the first place cos that actively harms scum *shrug* but there's no point saying that cos of the WIFOM it generates.
I'm not tryharding, running the math on a strategy is a really simple thing- Michael Scott
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Then I'd say your scumhunting technique is poor.In post 97, Bambi Jay wrote:It's also the boring way. You should know by now I like to lynch the guy who tries to use "logic" the most. Scum can use logic too.
I'm notjustusing logic -- not only do we maximize chances of a town win by having a massclaim, my initiating it and getting people's reactions also reveals likely scum. Lolwagons, who was trying to find out the best strat and immediately saw the logic in it claimed without hesitation -- unless he was scum with me and we planned it, I can't see scum!him doing that. That gives me pretty high confidence that he's town, or otherwise really competent scum.
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I never said to follow my choice of a VT lynch, just pointed out that lynching in VTs is sub-optimal.In post 108, Clemency wrote:"hey guys we have a 66% chance if we do this follow me whoo heyyy"
Your trying to lynch me rather than VTs here is scummy AF.- Michael Scott
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Then don't join games I'm in, if you're just gonna policy-lynch me for playing to my win-con?In post 106, Clemency wrote:i think michael's way of doing things is boring and boring people smell- Michael Scott
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Yadda yadda yaddaIn post 116, Clemency wrote:like, i understand - and agree with the strategy and i'm ok with going along with it
i'm just critical about how michael spearheaded this campaign
I can see why scum!you would fearmonger and flip the lynch onto me, it's just sad that both you and Bambi can't both be scum doing this and one of you HAS to be town- Michael Scott
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By not lynching in the VT, you're gamethrowing.In post 120, Clemency wrote:make sure you dont hurt a muscle reaching for all those narratives
I take charge as both town and scum.
Now, you're gonna hate this, but logic time.
If I'm scum, who's scum with me and McQueen?- Michael Scott
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Confirmation bias about?In post 126, Clemency wrote:i can't tell if michael is bad scum or just town with extreme confirmation bias- Michael Scott
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This is so hilariously scum.In post 124, muh316 wrote:Good to see you here Dong and 2ndStory.
I agree with my Lover. VOTE: Michael
Bambi's partner wouldn't do the "Good cop bad cop" play here, as it's directly disadvantageous.
If you guys derplynch me because "Strategies that maximize town wins are SCUMMY and I HATE logic" then here's an appeal to emotion,LYNCH CLEMENCY/MUHwhile I laugh at you guys in the dead thread.- Michael Scott
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Quotes please.In post 133, Clemency wrote:all of your arguments against me are centered along the idea that me being scum is a fact
"i'm scum therefore i'm scummy"
Also, the previous question about who you think is scum if I'm scum.- Michael Scott
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In post 139, Bambi Jay wrote:Consiricy theory: they saw they had McQueen as a partner, decided he was the weakest scum, so the put Michael (Auro/Volxen) with him and having LoLwagon as a supporting scum to lynch the real VTs.
Why else would they want to only lynch the VTs when there are 3 lover pairs? He's getting us to murder our own VTs for him. Fuck that.
End this game and this tyranny. Kill the Michael.
Because 66% chance of winning?- Michael Scott
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You're just whining about me scumclaiming and confbiasing otherwise and avoiding questions there too.In post 143, Clemency wrote:unless he stops pretending that the only reason people want him dead is because they "dont wanna go for their win con"- Michael Scott
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This is derping at its finest -- even if I'm scum, it's 100% scum victory only if you follow the VTs I vote for.In post 147, Bambi Jay wrote:Because 100% scum victory with you leading the charge.
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No. You're prob scum, Bambi is just derp.
Muh wants to quicklynch cos partner.
0verki11's gonna vote me the moment he arrives as well.
Lolwagons looks like the only reasonable person here, and Egix too -- which Bambi has already called him a 'shit partner' for.- Michael Scott
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0verki11 is the likelier here I think, supported by the fact that Clem voted him.In post 140, LolWagons wrote:ISO him it’s literally all that’s in there are these contrived townslips
If you think they’re forced get back on the wagon with me
They do look like contrived townslips, but he made one *after* you stated suspicion on him for the same? I think that comes more from non-self-aware town, rather than scum.- Michael Scott
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Because they're the only non-derp person in the crowd?In post 153, Clemency wrote:i like how you only give credibility to the one person who's defending you and is suspect as your scumpartner, as well as the one guy who's irrelevant to the whole argument
Obviously he's the only possible suspect as my scumpartner, it doesn't take a leap of reasoning to get there.
But- if idiot town derplynches me, he gets auto-cleared because of this.
Egix isn't irrelevant because I've played with him and I know he's far more competent.
I know Jay's opposed to logic and reasoning and likes trolling around, too.- Michael Scott
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Empty words, pal.In post 154, Bambi Jay wrote:"conf!bias" that Michael likes to use shows his
Show me where I used said "confbias"
You derps are the one tunnelling me for no reason at all.
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On play, yep. It's full on idiotic. Or scummy.In post 156, Clemency wrote:these fucking attacks on character lmao- Michael Scott
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On the plus side, next time you try going "He's using logic therefore scum", no one's gonna listen to you.In post 159, Bambi Jay wrote:Much salt. Such fun.
"He may be correct but that doesn't mean right" one more thing you said.
When I'm dead, do you think Clem would be scum?- Michael Scott
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Hell na, pretty sure the correct solve is {Clemency, Muh316, 0verki11} and it's also painfully obvious.In post 160, Clemency wrote:holy shit he's just given up by now
You flip me, town lynches you. So I'm relatively fine with my death.- Michael Scott
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What was the argument that I strawmanned, and what was the strawman?In post 162, Clemency wrote:crazy strawman bro - Michael Scott
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